• [gentoo-dev] games-emulation/jgemu keywording request

    From orbea@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 11 20:00:01 2023
    Hi,

    Several months ago I made this issue for keywording the
    games-emulation/jgemu meta package which is a collection of minimal
    emulators for the command-line games-emulation/jgrf frontend with a
    focus on accuracy.

    https://bugs.gentoo.org/891201

    Upstream is very interested in any portability issues and distro
    integration. Any issues that are found will be fixed if possible. If
    any of the Gentoo testers would like to help out it would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!

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  • From orbea@21:1/5 to Sam James on Mon Sep 11 21:00:01 2023
    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 19:18:45 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    Hi,

    Several months ago I made this issue for keywording the games-emulation/jgemu meta package which is a collection of minimal emulators for the command-line games-emulation/jgrf frontend with a
    focus on accuracy.


    You've not populated the package list and no arches are CC'd, but we
    don't keyword things for no reason either on (very) niche arches.

    Please select a reasonable set of architectures.

    https://bugs.gentoo.org/891201



    Apologies, I wasn't aware I needed to do that and in retrospect I
    should of thought of it. Just to be clear you mean add an issue for
    each issue and then use them as blockers for the games-emulation/jgemu
    issue?

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  • From Sam James@21:1/5 to orbea on Mon Sep 11 20:30:02 2023
    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    Hi,

    Several months ago I made this issue for keywording the
    games-emulation/jgemu meta package which is a collection of minimal
    emulators for the command-line games-emulation/jgrf frontend with a
    focus on accuracy.


    You've not populated the package list and no arches are CC'd, but we
    don't keyword things for no reason either on (very) niche arches.

    Please select a reasonable set of architectures.

    https://bugs.gentoo.org/891201

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  • From Sam James@21:1/5 to orbea on Mon Sep 11 21:40:01 2023
    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 19:18:45 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    Hi,

    Several months ago I made this issue for keywording the
    games-emulation/jgemu meta package which is a collection of minimal
    emulators for the command-line games-emulation/jgrf frontend with a
    focus on accuracy.


    You've not populated the package list and no arches are CC'd, but we
    don't keyword things for no reason either on (very) niche arches.

    Please select a reasonable set of architectures.

    https://bugs.gentoo.org/891201



    Apologies, I wasn't aware I needed to do that and in retrospect I
    should of thought of it. Just to be clear you mean add an issue for
    each issue and then use them as blockers for the games-emulation/jgemu
    issue?

    No, one bug is okay if you populate the package list field in Bugzilla.

    Just keep in mind that keywording isn't the same as upstreaam CI either
    and we generally want to only keyword on arches where someone is likely
    to use it.

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  • From orbea@21:1/5 to Sam James on Mon Sep 11 22:20:01 2023
    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 20:38:48 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 19:18:45 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    Hi,

    Several months ago I made this issue for keywording the
    games-emulation/jgemu meta package which is a collection of
    minimal emulators for the command-line games-emulation/jgrf
    frontend with a focus on accuracy.


    You've not populated the package list and no arches are CC'd, but
    we don't keyword things for no reason either on (very) niche
    arches.

    Please select a reasonable set of architectures.

    https://bugs.gentoo.org/891201



    Apologies, I wasn't aware I needed to do that and in retrospect I
    should of thought of it. Just to be clear you mean add an issue for
    each issue and then use them as blockers for the
    games-emulation/jgemu issue?

    No, one bug is okay if you populate the package list field in
    Bugzilla.

    Just keep in mind that keywording isn't the same as upstreaam CI
    either and we generally want to only keyword on arches where someone
    is likely to use it.


    Apologies, I now understand what you meant...

    The goal is to hopefully entice real world testers on systems that
    jgemu may be used. This is not something a CI would be able to
    accomplish.

    Do I want independent issues for the dependencies?

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  • From Mike Gilbert@21:1/5 to orbea@riseup.net on Mon Sep 11 22:30:01 2023
    On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 4:11 PM orbea <orbea@riseup.net> wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 20:38:48 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 19:18:45 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    Hi,

    Several months ago I made this issue for keywording the
    games-emulation/jgemu meta package which is a collection of
    minimal emulators for the command-line games-emulation/jgrf
    frontend with a focus on accuracy.


    You've not populated the package list and no arches are CC'd, but
    we don't keyword things for no reason either on (very) niche
    arches.

    Please select a reasonable set of architectures.

    https://bugs.gentoo.org/891201



    Apologies, I wasn't aware I needed to do that and in retrospect I
    should of thought of it. Just to be clear you mean add an issue for
    each issue and then use them as blockers for the
    games-emulation/jgemu issue?

    No, one bug is okay if you populate the package list field in
    Bugzilla.

    Just keep in mind that keywording isn't the same as upstreaam CI
    either and we generally want to only keyword on arches where someone
    is likely to use it.


    Apologies, I now understand what you meant...

    The goal is to hopefully entice real world testers on systems that
    jgemu may be used. This is not something a CI would be able to
    accomplish.

    This is not an appropriate use of Gentoo arch testing. We keyword
    things based on user demand, not to satisfy the urges of upstream
    developers.

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  • From orbea@21:1/5 to Mike Gilbert on Mon Sep 11 22:40:01 2023
    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:21:43 -0400
    Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:

    On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 4:11 PM orbea <orbea@riseup.net> wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 20:38:48 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 19:18:45 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    Hi,

    Several months ago I made this issue for keywording the
    games-emulation/jgemu meta package which is a collection of
    minimal emulators for the command-line games-emulation/jgrf
    frontend with a focus on accuracy.


    You've not populated the package list and no arches are CC'd,
    but we don't keyword things for no reason either on (very)
    niche arches.

    Please select a reasonable set of architectures.

    https://bugs.gentoo.org/891201



    Apologies, I wasn't aware I needed to do that and in retrospect
    I should of thought of it. Just to be clear you mean add an
    issue for each issue and then use them as blockers for the games-emulation/jgemu issue?

    No, one bug is okay if you populate the package list field in
    Bugzilla.

    Just keep in mind that keywording isn't the same as upstreaam CI
    either and we generally want to only keyword on arches where
    someone is likely to use it.


    Apologies, I now understand what you meant...

    The goal is to hopefully entice real world testers on systems that
    jgemu may be used. This is not something a CI would be able to
    accomplish.

    This is not an appropriate use of Gentoo arch testing. We keyword
    things based on user demand, not to satisfy the urges of upstream
    developers.


    Its a common occurrence that upstreams refuse to consider distros and
    leave them hanging, but I honestly did not expect the inverse where the
    distro is unwilling while the upstream is....

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  • From Alexey Sokolov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 11 22:50:01 2023
    11.09.2023 21:31, orbea пишет:
    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:21:43 -0400
    Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:

    On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 4:11 PM orbea <orbea@riseup.net> wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 20:38:48 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 19:18:45 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    Hi,

    Several months ago I made this issue for keywording the
    games-emulation/jgemu meta package which is a collection of
    minimal emulators for the command-line games-emulation/jgrf
    frontend with a focus on accuracy.


    You've not populated the package list and no arches are CC'd,
    but we don't keyword things for no reason either on (very)
    niche arches.

    Please select a reasonable set of architectures.

    https://bugs.gentoo.org/891201



    Apologies, I wasn't aware I needed to do that and in retrospect
    I should of thought of it. Just to be clear you mean add an
    issue for each issue and then use them as blockers for the
    games-emulation/jgemu issue?

    No, one bug is okay if you populate the package list field in
    Bugzilla.

    Just keep in mind that keywording isn't the same as upstreaam CI
    either and we generally want to only keyword on arches where
    someone is likely to use it.


    Apologies, I now understand what you meant...

    The goal is to hopefully entice real world testers on systems that
    jgemu may be used. This is not something a CI would be able to
    accomplish.

    This is not an appropriate use of Gentoo arch testing. We keyword
    things based on user demand, not to satisfy the urges of upstream
    developers.


    Its a common occurrence that upstreams refuse to consider distros and
    leave them hanging, but I honestly did not expect the inverse where the distro is unwilling while the upstream is....


    End users are already able to attempt building any package on any
    architecture by adding that package and its deps to /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords as **

    Users who wish to contribute as CI to jgemu can do so already. Users who
    do not wish, won't do that even with the keyword.

    --
    Best regards,
    Alexey "DarthGandalf" Sokolov

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  • From Sam James@21:1/5 to orbea on Mon Sep 11 22:50:01 2023
    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:21:43 -0400
    Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:

    On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 4:11 PM orbea <orbea@riseup.net> wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 20:38:48 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 19:18:45 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    Hi,

    Several months ago I made this issue for keywording the
    games-emulation/jgemu meta package which is a collection of
    minimal emulators for the command-line games-emulation/jgrf
    frontend with a focus on accuracy.


    You've not populated the package list and no arches are CC'd,
    but we don't keyword things for no reason either on (very)
    niche arches.

    Please select a reasonable set of architectures.

    https://bugs.gentoo.org/891201



    Apologies, I wasn't aware I needed to do that and in retrospect
    I should of thought of it. Just to be clear you mean add an
    issue for each issue and then use them as blockers for the
    games-emulation/jgemu issue?

    No, one bug is okay if you populate the package list field in
    Bugzilla.

    Just keep in mind that keywording isn't the same as upstreaam CI
    either and we generally want to only keyword on arches where
    someone is likely to use it.


    Apologies, I now understand what you meant...

    The goal is to hopefully entice real world testers on systems that
    jgemu may be used. This is not something a CI would be able to
    accomplish.

    This is not an appropriate use of Gentoo arch testing. We keyword
    things based on user demand, not to satisfy the urges of upstream
    developers.


    Its a common occurrence that upstreams refuse to consider distros and
    leave them hanging, but I honestly did not expect the inverse where the distro is unwilling while the upstream is....

    That doesn't mean we're able to start acting as CI. We already have
    enough test failures and build failures to handle for packages
    where people want to use them on alt-arches.

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  • From orbea@21:1/5 to Sam James on Mon Sep 11 23:00:02 2023
    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:40:27 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:21:43 -0400
    Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:

    On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 4:11 PM orbea <orbea@riseup.net> wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 20:38:48 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 19:18:45 +0100
    Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> wrote:

    orbea <orbea@riseup.net> writes:

    Hi,

    Several months ago I made this issue for keywording the
    games-emulation/jgemu meta package which is a collection
    of minimal emulators for the command-line
    games-emulation/jgrf frontend with a focus on accuracy.


    You've not populated the package list and no arches are
    CC'd, but we don't keyword things for no reason either on
    (very) niche arches.

    Please select a reasonable set of architectures.

    https://bugs.gentoo.org/891201



    Apologies, I wasn't aware I needed to do that and in
    retrospect I should of thought of it. Just to be clear you
    mean add an issue for each issue and then use them as
    blockers for the games-emulation/jgemu issue?

    No, one bug is okay if you populate the package list field in
    Bugzilla.

    Just keep in mind that keywording isn't the same as upstreaam
    CI either and we generally want to only keyword on arches where
    someone is likely to use it.


    Apologies, I now understand what you meant...

    The goal is to hopefully entice real world testers on systems
    that jgemu may be used. This is not something a CI would be able
    to accomplish.

    This is not an appropriate use of Gentoo arch testing. We keyword
    things based on user demand, not to satisfy the urges of upstream
    developers.


    Its a common occurrence that upstreams refuse to consider distros
    and leave them hanging, but I honestly did not expect the inverse
    where the distro is unwilling while the upstream is....

    That doesn't mean we're able to start acting as CI. We already have
    enough test failures and build failures to handle for packages
    where people want to use them on alt-arches.


    The goal was to expose these issues so that people can use them, but if
    no one is at all interested then close the issue.

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