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  • [gentoo-dev] Last rites: games-arcade/{spacerider,tuxdash,xsfcave}

    From James Le Cuirot@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 2 00:20:02 2024
    # James Le Cuirot <chewi@gentoo.org> (2024-07-01)
    # Ancient, dead upstream, generally awful.
    # Removal on 2024-08-01. Bugs #935307, #935308, #935309. games-arcade/spacerider
    games-arcade/tuxdash
    games-arcade/xsfcave

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  • From Vitaly Zdanevich@21:1/5 to Sam James on Tue Jul 2 12:40:01 2024
    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    Sorry just painful to see when we lose some old cultural artifacts.

    I cannot install it, no screenshots here https://web.archive.org/web/20050324101028/http://www.hackl.dhs.org/spacerider/

    Anybody know more about this game? Same screenshots, videos?

    On 7/2/24 14:12, Sam James wrote:
    Vitaly Zdanevich<zdanevich.vitaly@ya.ru> writes:

    Ancient

    Oh, ancient games are sooo bad, no ray tracing, no soul.
    Please seehttps://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Code_of_conduct.
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    <p>Sorry just painful to see when we lose some old cultural
    artifacts.</p>
    <p>I cannot install it, no screenshots here
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050324101028/http://www.hackl.dhs.org/spacerider/">https://web.archive.org/web/20050324101028/http://www.hackl.dhs.org/spacerider/</a></p>
    <p>Anybody know more about this game? Same screenshots, videos?<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/2/24 14:12, Sam James wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:87v81onlvi.fsf@gentoo.org">
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Vitaly Zdanevich <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:zdanevich.vitaly@ya.ru">&lt;zdanevich.vitaly@ya.ru&gt;</a> writes:

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    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Ancient
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    Oh, ancient games are sooo bad, no ray tracing, no soul.
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    Please see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Code_of_conduct">https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Code_of_conduct</a>.
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  • From Sam James@21:1/5 to Vitaly Zdanevich on Tue Jul 2 12:20:02 2024
    Vitaly Zdanevich <zdanevich.vitaly@ya.ru> writes:

    Ancient

    Oh, ancient games are sooo bad, no ray tracing, no soul.

    Please see https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Code_of_conduct.

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  • From Vitaly Zdanevich@21:1/5 to James Le Cuirot on Tue Jul 2 14:50:02 2024
    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    About tuxdash: I updated https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q63065334, if
    somebody want to contribute. Will add screenshot and video to Wikidata
    later.

    On 7/2/24 02:12, James Le Cuirot wrote:
    # James Le Cuirot<chewi@gentoo.org> (2024-07-01)
    # Ancient, dead upstream, generally awful.
    # Removal on 2024-08-01. Bugs #935307, #935308, #935309. games-arcade/spacerider
    games-arcade/tuxdash
    games-arcade/xsfcave
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    <p>About tuxdash: I updated <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q63065334">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q63065334</a>,
    if somebody want to contribute. Will add screenshot and video to
    Wikidata later.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/2/24 02:12, James Le Cuirot wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:6ce4a01689e4a1144b4a4726370a5018f0a429d4.camel@gentoo.org">
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""># James Le Cuirot <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chewi@gentoo.org">&lt;chewi@gentoo.org&gt;</a> (2024-07-01)
    # Ancient, dead upstream, generally awful.
    # Removal on 2024-08-01. Bugs #935307, #935308, #935309. games-arcade/spacerider
    games-arcade/tuxdash
    games-arcade/xsfcave
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  • From Vitaly Zdanevich@21:1/5 to James Le Cuirot on Tue Jul 2 18:50:01 2024
    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    I copied to https://gitlab.com/vitaly-zdanevich/tuxdash if somebody cares...

    On 7/2/24 02:12, James Le Cuirot wrote:
    # James Le Cuirot<chewi@gentoo.org> (2024-07-01)
    # Ancient, dead upstream, generally awful.
    # Removal on 2024-08-01. Bugs #935307, #935308, #935309. games-arcade/spacerider
    games-arcade/tuxdash
    games-arcade/xsfcave
    <!DOCTYPE html>
    <html data-lt-installed="true">
    <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
    </head>
    <body style="padding-bottom: 1px;">
    <p>I copied to <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gitlab.com/vitaly-zdanevich/tuxdash">https://gitlab.com/vitaly-zdanevich/tuxdash</a> if
    somebody cares...<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/2/24 02:12, James Le Cuirot wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:6ce4a01689e4a1144b4a4726370a5018f0a429d4.camel@gentoo.org">
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""># James Le Cuirot <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chewi@gentoo.org">&lt;chewi@gentoo.org&gt;</a> (2024-07-01)
    # Ancient, dead upstream, generally awful.
    # Removal on 2024-08-01. Bugs #935307, #935308, #935309. games-arcade/spacerider
    games-arcade/tuxdash
    games-arcade/xsfcave
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  • From James Le Cuirot@21:1/5 to Vitaly Zdanevich on Wed Jul 3 00:50:01 2024
    On Tue, 2024-07-02 at 14:39 +0400, Vitaly Zdanevich wrote:

    On 7/2/24 14:12, Sam James wrote:

    Vitaly Zdanevich <zdanevich.vitaly@ya.ru> writes:

    Ancient

    Oh, ancient games are sooo bad, no ray tracing, no soul.

    Please see https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Code_of_conduct.

    Sorry just painful to see when we lose some old cultural artifacts.

    I cannot install it, no screenshots here

    Anybody know more about this game? Same screenshots, videos?

    You imply that I did this out of hand, simply because they were old, but I assure you that I did try all of these games first. You could have easily
    tried them yourself before sending your message, despite the mask.

    I have no problem with having merely old games in our repo. It helps if they are still actively maintained, but they don't necessarily have to be. In fact, I have been rather sad to see others drop games in the past. The games still need to have some merit though. We are not a museum, and I would rather focus energy on the much better games that still need our attention.

    Experiences are subjective, of course, but I seriously doubted I would have found these games entertaining at the time, let alone now. I'll admit that TuxDash had some potential. It honoured the look of the original very well, which I am old enough to have played in the 80s. The maps are entirely random though, so there is practically no skill involved. A quick search revealed
    many other open source clones that are probably much better.

    I'll try to be more descriptive in my masks next time.

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