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On 9/14/24 6:23 AM, Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
1) overall small impact on binary size, no runtime implications for X users 2) desktop profile definition is "minimal" USE flags, not necessarily "legacy"
3) plenty of "minimal" gui-wm/* exist, so X WMs can't claim that space
4) KWin is not just used with Plasma, but also as LXQt default, and both Plasma as well as Gnome have plenty of desktop profile users for some reason (mostly no-multilib of course ...)
I suppose it is technically "minimal" to have either one or the other
but not both...
Which one deserves to be the "minimal default"? That is a harder
question to answer. But at least selectively there's a reason to have
various packages such as toolkits default to X support for ABI reasons
(this argument can of course be made for wayland too) and there's a
surprising amount of software out there that is X11-specific from the
days when it was less common to use generic toolkits such as Gtk / Qt,
which I guess leads us to: xwayland.
Anyway, I'll just add -wayland to make.conf to stem the flood, I
suppose. My DE is hardly "minimal" but it is certainly X-only.
Perhaps what we really need is an easier way to handle custom user
profiles via mixins, so that e.g. people who use lxqt don't have to beg
for a dedicated official profile.
5) deduplication++
At least this could be handled by making a
profiles/targets/desktop/wayland and having both plasma and gnome parent themselves to that?
It's not really much of an argument, even if it is only added on to 4
other arguments, to talk about deduplication as a reason to modify
end-user experiences. The arguments for end-user experiences should
relate to solving end-user problems, which is what points 1-4 argue
based on. Internal implementation details should remain internal
implementation details, and it seems we do (happily) have the technology
to make them stay that way.
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Eli Schwartz
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