On Wed, 03 Aug 2022 16:36:19 -0500, harry@invalid.com wrote:
I use a different nym for a few groups using Eternal-Sept.
After all these years of doing so, ES is now accusing me of
"excessive nymshifting" and blocking me from posting to usenet.
Has something changed with ES?
It is about time. They have been ignoring "abuse" claims for years.
I use a different nym for a few groups using Eternal-Sept.
After all these years of doing so, ES is now accusing me of
"excessive nymshifting" and blocking me from posting to usenet.
Has something changed with ES?
On 8/3/2022 8:05 PM, harry@invalid.com wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2022 19:45:13 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2022 16:36:19 -0500, harry@invalid.com wrote:
I use a different nym for a few groups using Eternal-Sept.
After all these years of doing so, ES is now accusing me of
"excessive nymshifting" and blocking me from posting to usenet.
Has something changed with ES?
It is about time. They have been ignoring "abuse" claims for years.
As far as abuse complaints go, I have found from years of experience that
almost no provider any longer gives a damn. Complaining is a waste of time. >>
I agree with your basic premise. But my opinion is they should wait until >> they get abuse complaints about an account - with headers for proof.
But, then, I still don't really know what is going on.
I think Ray fixed his nymshift counter.
He's always had the rule in the TOS, it just
was not enforced properly.
Just like the AIOE rule for posting limits may
claim 40 messages per day, but could only count to 20.
These are little scripting errors of one sort of another.
Generally speaking, of late he's been examining CleanFeed
and fixing the odd issue with it. For example, the Injection
field has been faked by some buffoonery and he may have
added something for that. And also contacted other admins
to do likewise (clean up what users post, in headers).
While many vanity header lines can be ignored during
a post, finding posts with multiple Injection clauses may
cause the wrong account to be blamed.
Paul
On Wed, 03 Aug 2022 19:45:13 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2022 16:36:19 -0500, harry@invalid.com wrote:
I use a different nym for a few groups using Eternal-Sept.
After all these years of doing so, ES is now accusing me of
"excessive nymshifting" and blocking me from posting to usenet.
Has something changed with ES?
It is about time. They have been ignoring "abuse" claims for years.
As far as abuse complaints go, I have found from years of experience that almost no provider any longer gives a damn. Complaining is a waste of time.
I agree with your basic premise. But my opinion is they should wait until they get abuse complaints about an account - with headers for proof.
But, then, I still don't really know what is going on.
On 8/3/2022 8:05 PM, harry@invalid.com wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2022 19:45:13 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2022 16:36:19 -0500, harry@invalid.com wrote:
I use a different nym for a few groups using Eternal-Sept.
After all these years of doing so, ES is now accusing me of
"excessive nymshifting" and blocking me from posting to usenet.
Has something changed with ES?
It is about time. They have been ignoring "abuse" claims for years.
As far as abuse complaints go, I have found from years of experience that
almost no provider any longer gives a damn. Complaining is a waste of time. >>
I agree with your basic premise. But my opinion is they should wait until >> they get abuse complaints about an account - with headers for proof.
But, then, I still don't really know what is going on.
I think Ray fixed his nymshift counter.
He's always had the rule in the TOS, it just
was not enforced properly.
Just like the AIOE rule for posting limits may
claim 40 messages per day, but could only count to 20.
These are little scripting errors of one sort of another.
Generally speaking, of late he's been examining CleanFeed
and fixing the odd issue with it. For example, the Injection
field has been faked by some buffoonery and he may have
added something for that. And also contacted other admins
to do likewise (clean up what users post, in headers).
While many vanity header lines can be ignored during
a post, finding posts with multiple Injection clauses may
cause the wrong account to be blamed.
Paul
Tell Ray to pay more attention to the abuse email. We had a guy
spoofing names in another group I am in and saying reprehensible
things about other members and their families. Ray didn't do anything
about it even after complaints.
On 8/4/2022 12:11 AM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
Tell Ray to pay more attention to the abuse email. We had a guy
spoofing names in another group I am in and saying reprehensible
things about other members and their families. Ray didn't do anything
about it even after complaints.
There are specific rules about what "spoofing" is.
It is the email field which is protected. And not just any value is protected. >Addresses in the .invalid domain are not protected.
http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=terms
"The e-mail addresses given in "From:", "Reply-To:", and "Sender:" SHOULD be yours
(i.e. you should be entitled to use it) and SHOULD be valid (should not bounce
because of invalidity). Using addresses and namespace of other people without
their consent is prohibited."
http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=abuse
"If a user is posting with your email address in their From: line we will terminate the account."
****
"Q: Will we terminate an account for excessive morphing to evade kill files?
A: We will first warn them and if they do not stop, we will terminate the account.
Please note that morphing involves changing the email address. Simply changing the
from name is not morphing. You should be kill filing on email address, not name."
*******
If I send a USENET post with the addy set to <gfretwell@aol.com> ,
then that is prohibited. and could lead to instant account termination
of my account if I did it.
If I posted the message from netfront, then it is the abuse address
at netfront that enforces the netfront TOS, whatever that is. There
are a number of servers that have no effective abuse address at
all (Google Groups being a PRIME example).
Paul
It is a great policy if they actually did it. We reported this user
many times and it didn't stop. The guy is easy to spot in the headers
because he always used "Noisy patient spider" in the organization
field.
On 8/4/2022 1:02 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
It is a great policy if they actually did it. We reported this user
many times and it didn't stop. The guy is easy to spot in the headers
because he always used "Noisy patient spider" in the organization
field.
Always include sample <MID> values so the administrator
can examine them. Complete with the greater/lessthan symbols.
For example, the message you just sent, the MID is:
<8munehp7b3i870hv17qc0quuuv7s5s9cnf@4ax.com>
and anyone can see that on Howard if they don't have
a newsreader that can index by <MID> directly.
http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3C8munehp7b3i870hv17qc0quuuv7s5s9cnf%404ax.com%3E
If you have not compacted a newsreader like Thunderbird, the headers
from the offensive messages may still be present (even if the message
bodies are no longer accessible), so you can look them up on Howard
and verify before sending off past samples. Howard has access to a deeper >spool than the average free server.
http://al.howardknight.net/
Paul
We had a guy spoofing names in another group I am in and saying
reprehensible things about other members and their families. Ray
didn't do anything about it even after complaints.
I use a different nym for a few groups using Eternal-Sept.
After all these years of doing so, ES is now accusing me of
"excessive nymshifting" and blocking me from posting to usenet.
Has something changed with ES?
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