• xp with ssd and crystaldiskmark

    From AugustA@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 26 22:17:56 2023
    Anyone here have their XP pc equipped with an SSD as their main drive?
    This is the result of a CrystalDiskMark test.. but reading is slower than writing.

    https://kolico.ca/tmp/cdm.jpg

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  • From Newyana2@21:1/5 to AugustA on Mon Mar 27 08:17:46 2023
    "AugustA" <nospam@thankyou.invalid> wrote

    | Anyone here have their XP pc equipped with an SSD as their main drive?

    I've been using them for years and find them notably
    faster. But it may depend on the vintage of your other
    hardware.

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  • From AugustA@21:1/5 to Newyana2@invalid.nospam on Mon Mar 27 10:08:10 2023
    On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:17:46 -0400
    "Newyana2" <Newyana2@invalid.nospam> wrote:

    "AugustA" <nospam@thankyou.invalid> wrote

    | Anyone here have their XP pc equipped with an SSD as their main drive?

    I've been using them for years and find them notably
    faster. But it may depend on the vintage of your other
    hardware.

    The SSD is in a T60 Thinkpad. The interface is SATA-I. The writing speed is comparable for SATA-I, but the reading speed is slower? -- that's odd. Not sure if I can trust CrystalDiskMark.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to AugustA on Tue Mar 28 19:15:40 2023
    On 3/27/2023 10:08 AM, AugustA wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:17:46 -0400
    "Newyana2" <Newyana2@invalid.nospam> wrote:

    N> "AugustA" <nospam@thankyou.invalid> wrote
    N>
    N> | Anyone here have their XP pc equipped with an SSD as their main drive?
    N>
    N> I've been using them for years and find them notably
    N> faster. But it may depend on the vintage of your other
    N> hardware.

    The SSD is in a T60 Thinkpad. The interface is SATA-I. The writing speed is comparable for SATA-I, but the reading speed is slower? -- that's odd. Not sure if I can trust CrystalDiskMark.


    "The result depends on Test File Size, Test File Position,
    Fragmentation, IDE(PATA)/SATA/RAID/SCSI/NVMe controller and CPU speed etc…"

    https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskmark/crystaldiskmark-main-window/

    "How to start Benchmark

    1. Select Number of Test Runs, Test Size and Test Drive.

    Test Drive

    C:\, D:\ and etc...
    If you would like to test Network Drive, please execute CrystalDiskMark
    by standard user (UAC: No)
    "

    That makes it a partition-based test. And the results would
    depend on WinXP (unaligned) or Win7 (aligned) partitioning.

    WinXP uses CHS, and CHS numbers are divisible by 63, whereas
    SSDs are based on 2**n numbers, and 63 does not divide into
    2**n. ( 63 = 3*3*7 ) . The clusters do not end up on 2**n
    boundaries as a result.

    Normally, what should happen, is write should be slower.
    Just a guess. That's because fractional writes, need two writes
    for an unaligned cluster. Reads should hit on the track buffer
    or the cache, and the impact on mis-alignment should be minimal.

    *******

    To bench at device level (having nothing to do with partitions),
    try HDTune. It is a read-only benchmark, so should not touch
    any data. I use this all the time, and on my daily driver. No damage.

    https://www.hdtune.com/download.html

    https://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe

    The test has a limited "span" and on a 20TB drive, it would
    only be testing a small portion of it. Giving exaggerated
    speeds consistent with the outer diameter of the platters.

    On a 1TB drive, HDTune should give representative numbers.

    The paid version of HDTune does both Read and Write bench.

    the free version does Read only.

    In your case, we seek to see a faster read result (telling us
    the hose pipe and the pumps are working normally :-) ). And this
    would indicate the slowness has something to do with the partitioning
    or the file system. If a partition was almost full, and you ran Crystal on it, perhaps the result would be pessimistic (the test file might be wedged
    between fragments).

    I'm not an expert on Crystal, so these are just ideas.

    The only thing I don't like about "aligning" a mis-aligned
    WinXP drive, is the impact on write life. It's wasteful
    to have to do this, and it's better to get the alignment
    right before installing an OS. While there is a standalone
    utility that "aligns" and costs $39.95, normally you can
    do this sort of thing for $0 by using backup/restore
    utilities that have working re-alignment on restore.
    But backup and restore is just as expensive as an
    alignment utility.

    If we were scientists, we would prepare two drives,
    one aligned, one misaligned, and compare the crystal
    numbers. I can't really do this in a VM, so it has
    to be done on physical hardware. And my WinXP motherboard
    died a year ago.

    Paul

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