• Miss Manners on tipping

    From Lenona@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 13 18:53:07 2025
    You can read her column at the Washington Post (with many comments), but there's usually a paywall. So I'm posting this, from the Mercury News,
    instead.



    https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/03/07/miss-manners-tipping-the-barista/

    DEAR MISS MANNERS: I bought a drink at a coffee shop that came to $4.22
    with tax. I was presented with three tip options: $1, $2 or $3 — 25%,
    50% or 75%, respectively.

    Since there weren’t any seats left in the shop, and therefore I was
    taking my coffee to go (thus reducing the need to clean off a table or otherwise deal with my presence in the store), I tipped $1 (25%).

    The barista glared at me as though I’d insulted her, and looked like
    she’d been slapped in the face.

    What am I missing? I realize coffee shop workers aren’t rich, but my job doesn’t pay extravagant wages, either. I tip more when I consume my
    drink in the shop, or when I pose some kind of inconvenience to the
    staff.


    GENTLE READER: When it comes to tipping, which is supposed to be a
    compliment, it is almost impossible not to insult someone somehow.

    Miss Manners once found herself giving offense by tipping a hotel worker
    for storing her luggage. It seems that he was a manager, and thus above accepting tips — a stance she admires but rarely encounters.

    The tip Miss Manners will give you is to tip in cash. Doing it
    electronically, and in full view of the other party, is designed to
    shame the customer into being more generous than intended. Better not to
    fall for it.
    ____________________________________________________

    Check this one out, too:

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/03/13/miss-manners-wander-into-our-house/

    DEAR MISS MANNERS: When walking or biking on a sidewalk or a trail, I
    often encounter three individuals walking or riding abreast.

    Instead of their moving to single file to let me pass, I’m forced to
    move aside to the grass or curb.

    When I was walking on a narrow pier, keeping to my side, I was
    approached by this woman walking on my side rather than staying on hers.
    I deliberately continued to walk straight toward her. We would have
    collided if I had not, once again, stepped aside.

    Should I call out this rude behavior?

    GENTLE READER: Yelling “gangway!” as you plow into the offending individuals might seem like a good idea, but it would put you on the
    wrong side of both etiquette and the rules of right-of-way.

    One rudeness does not justify another. And being off-course does not
    relieve you of the duty to avoid a collision.

    Miss Manners admits you might be in technical compliance were you to
    force them to change course by stopping in place. But this will be cold
    comfort if it results in your being run down. Better to step aside with
    a startling “Excuse me!” that will cause them to look up as they go by. _______________________________________

    Actually, there's a more dignified way to handle it - if there's a wall
    on the other side of the sidewalk. Simply walk firmly on that side, and
    shout only if necessary. That way, even the rudest person cannot push
    you aside. (No one should have to risk life and limb by stepping into
    the street! Or onto a very muddy lawn, for that matter.)

    But standing still works just as well, in my experience. I'VE never been
    run down, even while staying silent. Even teens staring at their phones
    tend to notice when someone isn't moving out of their way.

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  • From jordie@invalid.net@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 13 15:21:37 2025
    On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 12:45:09 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/13/25 11:53 AM, Lenona wrote:
    You can read her column at the Washington Post (with many comments), but
    there's usually a paywall. So I'm posting this, from the Mercury News,
    instead.

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/03/07/miss-manners-tipping-the-barista/

    DEAR MISS MANNERS: I bought a drink at a coffee shop that came to $4.22
    with tax. I was presented with three tip options: $1, $2 or $3 25%,
    50% or 75%, respectively.

    I would have tipped nothing. When I DO tip I tip in cash -- it's not MY
    job to provide free info to the IRS.

    Check this one out, too:

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/03/13/miss-manners-wander-into-our-house/ >>
    DEAR MISS MANNERS: When walking or biking on a sidewalk or a trail, I
    often encounter three individuals walking or riding abreast.

    Instead of their moving to single file to let me pass, Im forced to
    move aside to the grass or curb.

    I once encountered a group of tourists hogging the entire narrow trail.
    I shoulder-checked the first person and the rest moved over to the
    proper single file.

    Courtesy is just about dead in modern America.

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