XPost: fr.usenet.forums.evolution

Some idiots make the law on forums as in legislation, they break things
for the sake of breaking things, then they say that usenet is dead -
they don't tolerate that we find traces of life there,

em and om are two little fascists at heart, they think they are civil
servants of the fascist Napoleonic state fr.

It is forbidden to ban, they delete the forums to delete everything, if
the forum is no longer referenced how do you want to consult the
archives? Good servers are at least 2 years online, they delete the
indexes to deprive us of the content and its evolution.


Quelques troulucs font la loi sur les forums comme en législation, ils
cassent pour casser, ensuite ils racontent que usenet est mort - ils ne tolèrent pas qu'on en retrouve les traces de vie,

em et om sont deux petits fachos dans l'âme, ils se croient
fonctionnaires de l'état fachiste napoléonien fr.

Il est interdit d'interdire, ils effacent les forums pour tout effacer,
si le forum n'est plus référencé comment voulez-vous consulter les
archives ? Les bons serveurs ont au moins 2 ans en ligne, ils effacent
les index pour nous priver du contenu, et de ses suites.
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Le 27/11/2024 à 18:13, Laika a écrit :

Quelques troulucs font la loi sur les forums comme en législation, ils cassent pour casser, ensuite ils racontent que usenet est mort - ils ne tolèrent pas qu'on en retrouve les traces de vie,

Usenet a un défaut : il est difficile à censurer.

em et om sont deux petits fachos dans l'âme, ils se croient
fonctionnaires de l'état fachiste napoléonien fr.

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Le 28/11/24 à 07:11, Paul Aubrin a écrit :

Le 27/11/2024 à 18:13, Laika a écrit :

Quelques troulucs font la loi sur les forums comme en législation, ils
cassent pour casser, ensuite ils racontent que usenet est mort - ils
ne tolèrent pas qu'on en retrouve les traces de vie,

Usenet a un défaut : il est difficile à censurer.

Petite leçon de savoir-vivre et au sujet de la mémoire du poisson rouge:
A little lesson in etiquette and about the goldfish's memory:

About 450 fidonet forums are still active via usenet servers,
recalcitrant to the yoke of the all-delete.

Among them Fido7.ru.military with more than 20000 messages between 2023
and 2024, and they are online, the last 10 messages are from today - and
I did not check on the paid servers or on the Russian servers.

It even bugs chatgpt:

I need the line of text associated with each number
Okay, here are the lines of text associated with each number, sorted in descending order of digits:
13057: "the line of text corresponding to this number."
5974: "the line of text corresponding to this number."
4088: "the line of text corresponding to this number."
2887: "the line of text corresponding to this number."



Environ 450 forums fidonet sont encore actifs via des serveurs usenet, récalcitrans au joug du tout-effacer.

Parmi eux Fido7.ru.military avec plus de 20000 messages entre 2023 et
2024, et ils sont en ligne, les 10 derniers messages sont d'aujourd'hui
- et je n'ai pas été voir sur les serveurs payants ni sur les serveurs russes.

Ca fait même bugger chatgpt:

j'ai besoin de la ligne de texte associée à chaque nombre
D'accord, voici les lignes de texte associées à chaque nombre, triées
par ordre décroissant des chiffres :
13057 : "la ligne de texte correspondant à ce nombre."
5974 : "la ligne de texte correspondant à ce nombre."
4088 : "la ligne de texte correspondant à ce nombre."
2887 : "la ligne de texte correspondant à ce nombre."

hahaha. Regardez à l'Est, la grande libération viendra.
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em et om sont deux petits fachos dans l'âme, ils se croient
fonctionnaires de l'état fachiste napoléonien fr.

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Le 28/11/24 à 13:24, Laika a écrit :

Le 28/11/24 à 07:11, Paul Aubrin a écrit :

Le 27/11/2024 à 18:13, Laika a écrit :

Quelques troulucs font la loi sur les forums comme en législation,
ils cassent pour casser, ensuite ils racontent que usenet est mort -
ils ne tolèrent pas qu'on en retrouve les traces de vie,

Usenet a un défaut : il est difficile à censurer.

Petite leçon de savoir-vivre et au sujet de la mémoire du poisson rouge:
A little lesson in etiquette and about the goldfish's memory:

About 450 fidonet forums are still active via usenet servers,
recalcitrant to the yoke of the all-delete.

Among them Fido7.ru.military with more than 20000 messages between 2023
and 2024, and they are online, the last 10 messages are from today - and
I did not check on the paid servers or on the Russian servers.

It even bugs chatgpt:

I need the line of text associated with each number
Okay, here are the lines of text associated with each number, sorted in descending order of digits:
13057: "the line of text corresponding to this number."
5974: "the line of text corresponding to this number."
4088: "the line of text corresponding to this number."
2887: "the line of text corresponding to this number."

Environ 450 forums fidonet sont encore actifs via des serveurs usenet, récalcitrans au joug du tout-effacer.

Parmi eux Fido7.ru.military avec plus de 20000 messages entre 2023 et
2024, et ils sont en ligne, les 10 derniers messages sont d'aujourd'hui
- et je n'ai pas été voir sur les serveurs payants ni sur les serveurs russes.

Ca fait même bugger chatgpt:

j'ai besoin de la ligne de texte associée à chaque nombre
D'accord, voici les lignes de texte associées à chaque nombre, triées
par ordre décroissant des chiffres :
13057 : "la ligne de texte correspondant à ce nombre."
5974 : "la ligne de texte correspondant à ce nombre."
4088 : "la ligne de texte correspondant à ce nombre."
2887 : "la ligne de texte correspondant à ce nombre."

hahaha.  Regardez à l'Est, la grande libération viendra.
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em et om sont deux petits fachos dans l'âme, ils se croient
fonctionnaires de l'état fachiste napoléonien fr.

it was the number of messages in the archive of one server, for each
fido-group (only the first ones was listed, as you can see chatgpt has
drunk).
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 21:19:08 +0100, Laika <nestorlambda@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:

Le 28/11/24 à 13:24, Laika a écrit :

Le 28/11/24 à 07:11, Paul Aubrin a écrit :

Le 27/11/2024 à 18:13, Laika a écrit :

Quelques troulucs font la loi sur les forums comme en législation,
ils cassent pour casser, ensuite ils racontent que usenet est mort -
ils ne tolèrent pas qu'on en retrouve les traces de vie,

Usenet a un défaut : il est difficile à censurer.

Petite leçon de savoir-vivre et au sujet de la mémoire du poisson rouge:
A little lesson in etiquette and about the goldfish's memory:
About 450 fidonet forums are still active via usenet servers,
recalcitrant to the yoke of the all-delete.
Among them Fido7.ru.military with more than 20000 messages between 2023
and 2024, and they are online, the last 10 messages are from today - and
I did not check on the paid servers or on the Russian servers.
It even bugs chatgpt:
I need the line of text associated with each number
Okay, here are the lines of text associated with each number, sorted in
descending order of digits:
13057: "the line of text corresponding to this number."
5974: "the line of text corresponding to this number."
4088: "the line of text corresponding to this number."
2887: "the line of text corresponding to this number."
Environ 450 forums fidonet sont encore actifs via des serveurs usenet,
récalcitrans au joug du tout-effacer.
Parmi eux Fido7.ru.military avec plus de 20000 messages entre 2023 et
2024, et ils sont en ligne, les 10 derniers messages sont d'aujourd'hui
- et je n'ai pas été voir sur les serveurs payants ni sur les serveurs
russes.
Ca fait même bugger chatgpt:
j'ai besoin de la ligne de texte associée à chaque nombre
D'accord, voici les lignes de texte associées à chaque nombre, triées
par ordre décroissant des chiffres :
13057 : "la ligne de texte correspondant à ce nombre."
5974 : "la ligne de texte correspondant à ce nombre."
4088 : "la ligne de texte correspondant à ce nombre."
2887 : "la ligne de texte correspondant à ce nombre."
hahaha.  Regardez à l'Est, la grande libération viendra.
--

em et om sont deux petits fachos dans l'âme, ils se croient
fonctionnaires de l'état fachiste napoléonien fr.

it was the number of messages in the archive of one server, for each >fido-group (only the first ones was listed, as you can see chatgpt has >drunk).

just curious... the popular "blueworldhosting" server currently shows
over twenty-four thousand (24,712) articles in news:fido7.ru.military

however, the oldest article for this newsgroup (fido7.ru.military) on
the server (news.blueworldhosting.com) is dated 2022/03/22 ~three and
one-half years old, which suggests "fidonet.org" approved articles to
this popular moderated newsgroup expire before the server's longevity
of about twenty-one (21) years, as is evident for enduring newsgroups

i've had very good luck with russian freeware (e.g. https://aimp.ru/)
and websites, but i have no experience with fidonet (only usenet, and
formerly with bbs) . . . because it's moderated, is it like political,
or just common interests in all things military without east vs. west?

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Le 30/11/24 à 01:59, D a écrit :

On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 21:19:08 +0100, Laika <nestorlambda@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:

it was the number of messages in the archive of one server, for each
fido-group (only the first ones was listed, as you can see chatgpt has
drunk).

just curious... the popular "blueworldhosting" server currently shows
over twenty-four thousand (24,712) articles in news:fido7.ru.military

There is 1 year less on i2pn2, but much more on csiph (since 2015), all readable, especially in Russian, archives in Arabic. Often, an nntp
server offers a long list of message titles but their content is
inaccessible, the sysop decides, nntp sysops are rarely reliable or
trade in binaries, the best free servers have closed. That's why fido
could be reborn ...

Is fido moderated? Sometimes. This moderator is omnipresent: Approved: gateway@fido7.ru

How to access? Fortunately, gogle-groups this parasite has been stopped,
there are still gateways apparently (there are quite a few remailed
messages, see the encapsulated-remailing method). Russia and Crimea seem
to have hosts, you would have to find a recent fidonet directory then
the phone number of the BBS or its DNS address. fido7.f400.link ?

https://bbs.fandom.com/wiki/FidoNet#FidoNet_availability https://www.fidonet.org
They say: Use telnet for fidonet. It's a good idea, but BBSs allow you
to bypass the internet.

More info in the active groups and their FAQs, everything is in Russian (google-translate doesn't like it). The West has disowned fido, for convenience.

fido7.f400.link increments a counter in the routing over time, new
nodes? There would be 334 (where?), it's plausible.

Fido has its nomenclature xzone.xxxcounty.xxxnode.xxxxpoint plus
remailers, no need for DNS since it originally went through BBSs
(telephone). You can even go through amateur radio.

Some explanations and political information on fido7.ru.anarchy

Hello!




Il y a 1 an de moins sur i2pn2, mais beaucoup plus sur csiph (depuis
2015), tous lisibles, surtout en russe, des archives en arabe. Souvent,
un serveur nntp propose une longue liste de titres de messages mais leur contenu est inaccessibles, le sysop décide, les sysops nntp sont
rarement fiables ou font le commerce des binaires, les meilleurs
serveurs libres ont fermé. C'est pour ça que fido pourrait renaître ...

Fido est-il modéré ? Parfois. Ce modérateur est omniprésent: Approved: gateway@fido7.ru

Comment accéder ? Il y a heureusement eu l'arrêt de gogle-groups ce
parasite, il reste des passerelles visiblement (il y a pas mal de
messages remailés, voir la méthode à encapsuled-remailing). La russie et
la crimée semblent posséder des hosts, il faudrait trouver un annuaire fidonet récent puis le numéro de téléphone du BBS ou son adresse DNS. fido7.f400.link ?

https://bbs.fandom.com/wiki/FidoNet#FidoNet_availability https://www.fidonet.org
Ils disent: Utiliser telnet pour fidonet. C'est une bonne piste, mais
les BBS permettent de ne pas passer par internet.

Plus d'infos dans les groupes actifs et leurs faqs, tout est en russe (google-translate n'aime pas ça). L'occident a renié fido, par facilité.

fido7.f400.link incrémente un compteur dans le routage au fil du temps,
des nouveaux nodes ? Il y en aurait 334 (où ?), c'est plausible.

Fido a sa nomenclature xzone.xxxcounty.xxxnode.xxxxpoint plus les
remailers, pas forcément besoin de DNS puisqu'à l'origine ça passait par
les BBS (téléphone). On peut même passer par radio-amateur.

Quelques explications et des infos politiques sur fido7.ru.anarchy

Hello!

however, the oldest article for this newsgroup (fido7.ru.military) on
the server (news.blueworldhosting.com) is dated 2022/03/22 ~three and one-half years old, which suggests "fidonet.org" approved articles to
this popular moderated newsgroup expire before the server's longevity
of about twenty-one (21) years, as is evident for enduring newsgroups

i've had very good luck with russian freeware (e.g. https://aimp.ru/)
and websites, but i have no experience with fidonet (only usenet, and formerly with bbs) . . . because it's moderated, is it like political,
or just common interests in all things military without east vs. west?

Russia censors websites that offer VPN downloads, I don't know anything
about the rest, but I see remailing, approvals maiby needed for
remailing, and a few groups that have survived for reasons I don't know (technical means, confidentiality?).

La russie censure les sites web qui proposent de télécharger des vpn, je
ne sais rien du reste, mais je constate du remailing, des approval, et
quelques groupes qui ont survécu pour des raisons que j'ignore (moyens techniques, confidentialité ?).
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On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:12:29 +0100, Laika <nestorlambda@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:

Le 30/11/24 à 01:59, D a écrit :

On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 21:19:08 +0100, Laika <nestorlambda@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:

it was the number of messages in the archive of one server, for each
fido-group (only the first ones was listed, as you can see chatgpt has
drunk).

just curious... the popular "blueworldhosting" server currently shows
over twenty-four thousand (24,712) articles in news:fido7.ru.military

There is 1 year less on i2pn2, but much more on csiph (since 2015), all >readable, especially in Russian, archives in Arabic. Often, an nntp
server offers a long list of message titles but their content is >inaccessible, the sysop decides, nntp sysops are rarely reliable or
trade in binaries, the best free servers have closed. That's why fido
could be reborn ...

about one dozen free (public nntp) newsservers currently operational that
carry the common text hierarchy (40,000+ newsgroups) . . . "csiph" is new
to me:

(using Tor Browser 14.0.3)
http://csiph.com/

Free public NNTP/Usenet access at >news://nntp.csiph.com/comp.sys.ibm.ps2.harware
or drop by on your favorite provider!
This local server caries the entire text hierarchy.
...
Connected Peerings
news.bbs.nz
erje
Eternal September
individual.net
snorky.mixmin.net
neodome.net
news.samoylyk.net
swapon.de
tnetconsulting.net
usenet.pasdenom.info
news.weretis.net
xmission

[end quoted excerpts]

(using Tor Browser 14.0.3) http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=nntp.csiph.com&btnsubmit=Go

Server: nntp.csiph.com (45321)

^^^^^
5896 articles, oldest article dated 2016/10/1 . . . i tested several other active newsgroups with server "nntp.csiph.com" (localhost 119/tor browser)
and it appears to have excellent article retention (oldest date 2015/06/02
in a.p.n. . . 77,000+ articles!); thanks for the tip, added to server list

Is fido moderated? Sometimes. This moderator is omnipresent: Approved: >gateway@fido7.ru

How to access? Fortunately, gogle-groups this parasite has been stopped, >there are still gateways apparently (there are quite a few remailed
messages, see the encapsulated-remailing method). Russia and Crimea seem
to have hosts, you would have to find a recent fidonet directory then
the phone number of the BBS or its DNS address. fido7.f400.link ?

https://bbs.fandom.com/wiki/FidoNet#FidoNet_availability >https://www.fidonet.org
They say: Use telnet for fidonet. It's a good idea, but BBSs allow you
to bypass the internet.

More info in the active groups and their FAQs, everything is in Russian >(google-translate doesn't like it). The West has disowned fido, for >convenience.

fido7.f400.link increments a counter in the routing over time, new
nodes? There would be 334 (where?), it's plausible.

Fido has its nomenclature xzone.xxxcounty.xxxnode.xxxxpoint plus
remailers, no need for DNS since it originally went through BBSs
(telephone). You can even go through amateur radio.

Some explanations and political information on fido7.ru.anarchy

snip

thanks for the detailed description . . . i'll read more as time permits, especially because usenet servers carry so many of these fido newsgroups

however, the oldest article for this newsgroup (fido7.ru.military) on
the server (news.blueworldhosting.com) is dated 2022/03/22 ~three and
one-half years old, which suggests "fidonet.org" approved articles to
this popular moderated newsgroup expire before the server's longevity
of about twenty-one (21) years, as is evident for enduring newsgroups
i've had very good luck with russian freeware (e.g. https://aimp.ru/)
and websites, but i have no experience with fidonet (only usenet, and
formerly with bbs) . . . because it's moderated, is it like political,
or just common interests in all things military without east vs. west?

Russia censors websites that offer VPN downloads, I don't know anything
about the rest, but I see remailing, approvals maiby needed for
remailing, and a few groups that have survived for reasons I don't know >(technical means, confidentiality?).

only guessing, but this bbs "fido" network probably seems normal for the
(they say mostly) russian/ukrainian-based users, with politics, religion,
etc. being avoided as much as possible . . . like everyone else is doing

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On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:12:29 +0100, Laika <nestorlambda@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:

Le 30/11/24 à 01:59, D a écrit :

On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 21:19:08 +0100, Laika <nestorlambda@not-for-mail.invalid> wrote:

it was the number of messages in the archive of one server, for each
fido-group (only the first ones was listed, as you can see chatgpt has
drunk).

just curious... the popular "blueworldhosting" server currently shows
over twenty-four thousand (24,712) articles in news:fido7.ru.military

There is 1 year less on i2pn2, but much more on csiph (since 2015), all >readable, especially in Russian, archives in Arabic. Often, an nntp
server offers a long list of message titles but their content is >inaccessible, the sysop decides, nntp sysops are rarely reliable or
trade in binaries, the best free servers have closed. That's why fido
could be reborn ...

p.s. the collective "rfc" consensus is for peers to accept and tolerate incessant newsgroup flooding and cross-posting by troll farm operatives
while simultaneously excoriating lesser offenses . . . but news servers
are a luxury, so no one wants to criticize server operators, but rather
suggest ways to improve the user's network experience for all concerned,
but cancels, nocems? it's like emptying the pacific ocean with a bucket

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