• Re: the google diaspora

    From Ed Corman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 6 08:56:49 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    D wrote:

    with google's g2n gateway shutting down, its former inhabitants will be dispersed, scattered abroad, displaced to the four corners of the earth, multitudes of wayward outcasts in search of the fabulous user's network

    Some of that multitude are users of binary Usenet who genuinely prefer
    Google Groups for their occasional foray into text newsgroups. They
    already have news server accounts. They will not be "in search of the
    fabulous user's network".

    Some of that multitude are people who believe Google bought out Usenet
    lock stock and barrel, back when their ISP shut down its news server.
    They will believe the "fabulous user's network" is a thing of the past
    which no longer exists.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 6 10:48:42 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    Am 06.01.2024 um 08:56:49 Uhr schrieb Ed Corman:

    Some of that multitude are people who believe Google bought out
    Usenet lock stock and barrel, back when their ISP shut down its news
    server. They will believe the "fabulous user's network" is a thing of
    the past which no longer exists.

    Google tells them in their message that they can continue to use it,
    but need another provide.

    People who are able to read should be able to notice that. :-)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+MiPCfkpDwn4y78J+MuvCfj@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 6 19:49:58 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 08:56:49 -0000, LO AND BEHOLD; Ed Corman <noreply@spamfree.invalid> determined that the following was of not
    great importance to Ed Corman <noreply@spamfree.invalid> and
    subsequently decided to NOT freely share it with us in <3c3697ac4544.4392dad3@localhost>:

    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= D wrote:
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= with google's g2n gateway shutting down, its former inhabitants will be
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= dispersed, scattered abroad, displaced to the four corners of the earth,
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= multitudes of wayward outcasts in search of the fabulous user's network
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Some of that multitude are users of binary Usenet who genuinely prefer
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Google Groups for their occasional foray into text newsgroups. They
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= already have news server accounts. They will not be "in search of the
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= fabulous user's network". =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Some of that multitude are people who believe Google bought out Usenet
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= lock stock and barrel, back when their ISP shut down its news server.
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= They will believe the "fabulous user's network" is a thing of the past
    =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= which no longer exists. =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

    Amazing. Someone gets it.

    --

    "If you worried half as much about your own personal life as you do
    everyone else's, you might almost be tolerable, obsessed stalker."

    -James "Checkmate" Gorman, in perhaps the most ironic and
    mentally-challenged statement ever made on Usenet. <MPG.4001ba2c14cace6c98cb6f@usnews.blocknews.net>

    Golden Killfile, June 2005
    KOTM, November 2006
    Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
    Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
    Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
    Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
    Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
    Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
    Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
    Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
    Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
    AUK Mascot, September 2007
    Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Sat Jan 6 15:36:23 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:48:42 +0100, Marco Moock wrote:

    Am 06.01.2024 um 08:56:49 Uhr schrieb Ed Corman:

    Some of that multitude are people who believe Google bought out
    Usenet lock stock and barrel, back when their ISP shut down its news server. They will believe the "fabulous user's network" is a thing of
    the past which no longer exists.

    Google tells them in their message that they can continue to use it,
    but need another provide.

    People who are able to read should be able to notice that. :-)

    A talent not noticeably overabundant among Usenet users.

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From morse@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 7 05:37:07 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    On 06 Jan 2024, Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> posted some news:MPG.400383d3868ea86399027a@news.individual.net:

    On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:48:42 +0100, Marco Moock wrote:

    Am 06.01.2024 um 08:56:49 Uhr schrieb Ed Corman:

    Some of that multitude are people who believe Google bought out
    Usenet lock stock and barrel, back when their ISP shut down its news
    server. They will believe the "fabulous user's network" is a thing of
    the past which no longer exists.

    Google tells them in their message that they can continue to use it,
    but need another provide.

    People who are able to read should be able to notice that. :-)

    A talent not noticeably overabundant among Usenet users.

    It's selective ignorance.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to morse on Sat Jan 6 22:24:02 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 05:37:07 -0000 (UTC), morse said:

    .



    On 06 Jan 2024, Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> posted some news:MPG.400383d3868ea86399027a@news.individual.net:

    On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:48:42 +0100, Marco Moock wrote:

    Am 06.01.2024 um 08:56:49 Uhr schrieb Ed Corman:

    Some of that multitude are people who believe Google bought out
    Usenet lock stock and barrel, back when their ISP shut down its news
    server. They will believe the "fabulous user's network" is a thing of
    the past which no longer exists.

    Google tells them in their message that they can continue to use it,
    but need another provide.

    People who are able to read should be able to notice that. :-)

    A talent not noticeably overabundant among Usenet users.

    It's selective ignorance.

    whut does that mean?

    --
    DAVID "ASSWORM" KEETING ~~~"

    "its usually the lesser intelligent person , that comments
    on the more intelligent person's , lack of intelligents
    and we all think what we do has major significants"

    -David James Keeting, in perhaps the most ironic and retarded statement
    ever made on Usenet.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John McCue@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 8 17:13:52 2024
    D <J@m> wrote:

    with google's g2n gateway shutting down, its former inhabitants will be dispersed, scattered abroad, displaced to the four corners of the earth, multitudes of wayward outcasts in search of the fabulous user's network

    I doubt they will notice a difference. All this means is Google
    Groups (GG) people will be in a walled garden. I would not be
    surprised if in a year or 2, google will completely shutdown GG.

    For us, will be great :) Right now, since the spam issue, I kill
    all posts from GG and I believe many other people do too, so GG
    people may already be in a kind of pseudo garden.

    --
    [t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
    - Paraphrasing Star Wars

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ed Corman@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Tue Jan 9 08:51:56 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 06.01.2024 um 08:56:49 Uhr schrieb Ed Corman:

    Some of that multitude are people who believe Google bought out
    Usenet lock stock and barrel, back when their ISP shut down its news
    server. They will believe the "fabulous user's network" is a thing of
    the past which no longer exists.

    Google tells them in their message that they can continue to use it,
    but need another provide.

    People who are able to read should be able to notice that. :-)

    The message they see in Google Groups does not tell them that they can
    continue to use Usenet. The message they see in Google Groups says only
    this:

    | Effective February 22, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support
    | new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed,
    | and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and
    | searching of historical data will still be supported as it is
    | done today.

    You expect those people to click a 'Learn more' link to go to a Google
    support page and when they get there to read a 366-word page to find
    *and* also understand this information half-way down. If someone is the
    type who already believes Google bought out Usenet lock stock and
    barrel, he or she is unlikely to complete all of that. Many won't even
    click the link.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ratt@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 9 22:02:13 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    On 09 Jan 2024, Ed Corman <noreply@spamfree.invalid> posted some news:bea243f9bbd2.5870e308@localhost:

    Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 06.01.2024 um 08:56:49 Uhr schrieb Ed Corman:

    Some of that multitude are people who believe Google bought out
    Usenet lock stock and barrel, back when their ISP shut down its news
    server. They will believe the "fabulous user's network" is a thing
    of the past which no longer exists.

    Google tells them in their message that they can continue to use it,
    but need another provide.

    People who are able to read should be able to notice that. :-)

    The message they see in Google Groups does not tell them that they can continue to use Usenet. The message they see in Google Groups says
    only this:

    | Effective February 22, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support
    | new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed,
    | and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and
    | searching of historical data will still be supported as it is
    | done today.

    You expect those people to click a 'Learn more' link to go to a Google support page and when they get there to read a 366-word page to find
    *and* also understand this information half-way down. If someone is
    the type who already believes Google bought out Usenet lock stock and
    barrel, he or she is unlikely to complete all of that. Many won't even
    click the link.

    That's the end result of progressive liberal education policies. Not to
    worry. Many of them can't read or write well enough to support
    themselves so the problem is self-solving when they OD or starve to
    death.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ratt@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 9 20:41:30 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    On 09 Jan 2024, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> posted some news:unk3gv$23sdl$1@dont-email.me:

    On 1/9/2024 10:15 AM, D wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 08:51:56 -0000, Ed Corman
    <noreply@spamfree.invalid> wrote:

    You expect those people to click a 'Learn more' link to go to a
    Google support page and when they get there to read a 366-word page
    to find *and* also understand this information half-way down. If
    someone is the type who already believes Google bought out Usenet
    lock stock and barrel, he or she is unlikely to complete all of
    that. Many won't even click the link.

    many of these ejected googlegroup refugees could find websites
    offering user-friendly rocksolid light web2news format very much to
    their liking; and with no more google spam, even unfiltered
    newsgroups would probably be much easier to read . . . only 44 days
    left until the goo goes kaput

    Hah.

    Will only happen if you drag them kicking and screaming,
    one refugee at a time.

    I've even tied a red ribbon on my refugee, as proof it can be done.

    "Get Me to the Church on Time"

    https://cdn.britannica.com/61/90661-050-517883E2/Rex-Harrison-Audrey
    -Hepburn-My-Fair-Lady.jpg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVmU3iANbgk

    44 days to go.

    Paul

    Google is like Costco. They find a decent product, remake it (destroy it)
    in their own image (Kirkland), then wonder why people don't like it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From immibis@21:1/5 to ratt on Wed Jan 10 03:58:40 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    On 1/9/24 22:02, ratt wrote:

    That's the end result of progressive liberal education policies. Not to worry. Many of them can't read or write well enough to support
    themselves so the problem is self-solving when they OD or starve to
    death.


    You describe conservative policies and the results of conservative
    policies, then blame them on "progressive liberals" (a non-existent
    group, just like conservative liberals). Maybe you're just here to push
    an agenda? If so, kindly fuck off.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Indira@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Wed Jan 10 16:08:39 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    Marco Moock wrote:

    Google tells them in their message that they can continue to use it,
    but need another provider.

    On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:48:42 +0100, Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> wrote

    Google tells them in their message that they can continue to use it,
    but need another provider.

    I'm one of those Google Groups users who liked it because I can post to
    Usenet without paying for a server - all I need is a posting account.

    But where does a Google Groups user find those free posting accounts?

    The ones I know of are certainly not the full list, but maybe the ones
    everyone on this thread knows of might be close to that full list?

    Here are the replacements for the Google Groups diaspora that I know of
    that server MOST of teh text newsgroups for anyone who asks for an account
    (as there are many specialized servers that only serve very select
    newsgroups, and there are others that serve only some countries, etc).

    Listing free servers alphabetically (to jog my memory and yours), I know of
    A = Albasani (read/write)
    B = Blue World (read/write)
    C =
    D = Dizum (read only)
    E = Eternal September (read/write)
    F =
    G =
    H =
    I = ip2n (read/write)
    J =
    K =
    L =
    M = Mixmin (read only)
    N = NovaBBS (read/Write), Netfront (read only), News4All (read/write)
    O =
    P = Paganini (read/write)
    Q =
    R =
    S = Solani (read/write), Sunsite (read/write)
    T =
    U = Usenet4All (read/write)
    V =
    W =
    X = xsusenet (read only)
    Y =
    Z =

    That's only from my memory so much of it could be outdated or wrong.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Howard H.@21:1/5 to immibis on Wed Jan 10 10:47:40 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    immibis <news@immibis.com> wrote in news:unl150$2bl00$3@dont-email.me:

    On 1/9/24 22:02, ratt wrote:

    That's the end result of progressive liberal education policies. Not
    to worry. Many of them can't read or write well enough to support
    themselves so the problem is self-solving when they OD or starve to
    death.


    You describe conservative policies and the results of conservative
    policies, then blame them on "progressive liberals" (a non-existent
    group, just like conservative liberals). Maybe you're just here to
    push an agenda? If so, kindly fuck off.

    If thine eyes offend thee pluck them out, ehh? Same go for your brain?

    Liberals have been ruining education in the USA since the 60s & 70s.

    Rural schools taught American Politics, American Government, American
    Problems, Social Studies, a host of other things that enabled people to
    keep watch on government and get along with each other.

    Metro schools only taught half of those classes, maybe.

    Why was that?

    Teachers unions and really dumb PTA parents.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From SugarBug@21:1/5 to Indira on Wed Jan 10 05:03:56 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:08:39 +0530
    Indira <indira@ghandi.net> wrote:

    But where does a Google Groups user find those free posting accounts?

    Sixteeen Free Usenet Servers and several Boutique NNTP servers https://sybershock.com/#usenet

    All sixteen hosts are read and write.

    That's only from my memory so much of it could be outdated or wrong.

    Yes.

    --
    3883@sugar.bug | sybershock.com | alt.sources.crypto

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to SugarBug on Thu Jan 11 11:52:18 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    On 2024-01-10 12:03, SugarBug wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:08:39 +0530
    Indira <indira@ghandi.net> wrote:

    But where does a Google Groups user find those free posting accounts?

    Sixteeen Free Usenet Servers and several Boutique NNTP servers https://sybershock.com/#usenet

    All sixteen hosts are read and write.

    How about adding that information to Wikipedia?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

    It can be the list itself included there, or a link on the "External
    links" section.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Thu Jan 11 09:49:46 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    On 1/11/24 04:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-01-10 12:03, SugarBug wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:08:39 +0530
    Indira <indira@ghandi.net> wrote:

    But where does a Google Groups user find those free posting accounts?

    Sixteeen Free Usenet Servers and several Boutique NNTP servers
    https://sybershock.com/#usenet

    All sixteen hosts are read and write.

    How about adding that information to Wikipedia?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

    It can be the list itself included there, or a link on the "External
    links" section.

    Probably would be useful, putting it on Wikipedia would make it easier
    to find, and anyone curious about USENET can make an account straight
    from the Wikipedia page.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 29 20:29:46 2024
    XPost: alt.free.newsservers

    On 2024-01-11 16:49, candycanearter07 wrote:
    On 1/11/24 04:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-01-10 12:03, SugarBug wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:08:39 +0530
    Indira <indira@ghandi.net> wrote:

    But where does a Google Groups user find those free posting accounts?

    Sixteeen Free Usenet Servers and several Boutique NNTP servers
    https://sybershock.com/#usenet

    All sixteen hosts are read and write.

    How about adding that information to Wikipedia?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

    It can be the list itself included there, or a link on the "External
    links" section.

    Probably would be useful, putting it on Wikipedia would make it easier
    to find, and anyone curious about USENET can make an account straight
    from the Wikipedia page.

    Done.

    Sorry for the delay, I had forgotten.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)