• Re: PC newsreader that keeps messages and has a good text search

    From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Mon Aug 12 11:11:38 2024
    Reposted article 3 minutes later by Justisaur, but with a slightly
    different Subject.

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    [Tbird] also had a bug last week where it re-downloaded all the
    messages and now everything older than a week just comes up with an
    error.

    Not a problem with Tbird. A problem with ES (the Usenet provider you
    use) where a server went down, the articles database got rebuilt which
    resulted in new article articles (which won't match those you previously downloaded). See the eternal-september.support newsgroup for more info
    from Ray.

    One of the other I'm looking for is the ability to retain all messages
    in a particular newsgroup.

    Maybe you specified retention periods for folders or in account
    settings.

    https://www.lifewire.com/auto-remove-old-mail-thunderbird-1173112 https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1081515

    Could be you are using a view that hides old or flagged messages.

    Also built in spellcheck. I remember I tried a couple other newsreaders
    like x-news which is supposed to have a way to set up spellcheck but I couldn't get working.

    https://www.lifewire.com/check-spelling-as-you-type-thunderbird-1173155

    If you want something different, there are extensions you can add for
    spell checking, like:

    https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/search/?q=spell

    By the way, Thunderbird has its own newsgroup over at ---. .--------------------------------------------------------'
    '---> alt.comp.software.thunderbird

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 12 08:37:43 2024
    I've been using Thunderbird since Google Groups shut down, but I mostly
    enjoyed GG for the ability to quickly find messages by keywords. I set
    TB to keep all messages, but it's search has been horrible and can't
    find hardly anything. It also had a bug last week where it
    re-downloaded all the messages and now everything older than a week just
    comes up with an error.

    One of the other I'm looking for is the ability to retain all messages
    in a particular newsgroup.

    Also built in spellcheck. I remember I tried a couple other newsreaders
    like x-news which is supposed to have a way to set up spellcheck but I
    couldn't get working.

    I'm on PC, so running in Windows (10 right now) is a must.

    I don't care at all about binaries as I'm using eternal-september. I
    don't mind paying a little, and am considering Agent too.


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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Mon Aug 12 09:52:50 2024
    On 8/12/2024 9:11 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Reposted article 3 minutes later by Justisaur, but with a slightly
    different Subject.

    Sorry it didn't appear to post so I pulled it from my sent, edited it a
    bit more and posted again.


    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    [Tbird] also had a bug last week where it re-downloaded all the
    messages and now everything older than a week just comes up with an
    error.

    Not a problem with Tbird. A problem with ES (the Usenet provider you
    use) where a server went down, the articles database got rebuilt which resulted in new article articles (which won't match those you previously downloaded). See the eternal-september.support newsgroup for more info
    from Ray.

    Ah thanks for that. As I've set to retain all messages it should have
    them locally and I should still be able to access them?


    One of the other I'm looking for is the ability to retain all messages
    in a particular newsgroup.

    Maybe you specified retention periods for folders or in account
    settings.

    I have the retention set to all for the main usenet group I use on that
    folder, I don't see anything in account settings for that.


    https://www.lifewire.com/auto-remove-old-mail-thunderbird-1173112

    That's not set to delete

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1081515

    Ah, this could be it. Says it uses the server's retention policies even
    if you choose to retain messages locally longer, there's no option to
    prevent that.

    Another reason for a different newsreader.

    Also built in spellcheck. I remember I tried a couple other newsreaders
    like x-news which is supposed to have a way to set up spellcheck but I
    couldn't get working.

    https://www.lifewire.com/check-spelling-as-you-type-thunderbird-1173155


    That was more about different newsreaders, Thunderbird's spell check
    works fine.

    '---> alt.comp.software.thunderbird

    Thanks, really looking for a different newsreader at this point.

    Sorry if it feels like I'm flaming you, the heat is directed at TB.
    You've been very helpful :)

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Mon Aug 12 10:25:58 2024
    On 8/12/2024 9:52 AM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 8/12/2024 9:11 AM, VanguardLH wrote:

    [Tbird] also had a bug last week where it re-downloaded all the
    messages and now everything older than a week just comes up with an
    error.

    Not a problem with Tbird.  A problem with ES (the Usenet provider you
    use) where a server went down, the articles database got rebuilt which
    resulted in new article articles (which won't match those you previously
    downloaded).  See the eternal-september.support newsgroup for more info
    from Ray.

    Ah thanks for that.  As I've set to retain all messages it should have
    them locally and I should still be able to access them?

    I think I found where the issue is with it retaining the messages. In
    the properties of the ng, synchronization tab, select offline.

    Perhaps that will fix the issue with searching too. I'll keep on with
    TB for awhile, and see if that helps, at least until the messages from
    E-S are reloaded.

    Thanks again!


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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Mon Aug 12 16:21:41 2024
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I'll keep on with TB for awhile, and see if that helps, at least until
    the messages from E-S are reloaded.

    I think the articles have already been reloaded at ES, but with
    different article numbers, so all NNTP clients will be out of sync to
    what they previously downloaded.

    "I had to reload articles from another server with different article
    numbers. In this case, I can choose between using the source server's
    numbers or letting my server generate new article numbers. Each
    alternative will cause issues for the clients' newsrc files :-( "
    (Ray Banana in eternal-september.support newsgroup)

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