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  • [mesnews] remove x-post & English translation

    From Ammammata@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 26 08:52:15 2024
    when I reply to a xpost the program warns me
    so I remove all the groups except one, confirm, send and... it's still
    xpost, but no more warnings

    this one too: the "Concept" word in the English translation is
    misleading, IMHO "Draft" is much more better ;-)

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  • From Ammammata@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 26 14:12:18 2024
    Anton Shepelev expressed precisely :
    do you imply that the unnamed program
    you are talking about does not obey your orders and insists on
    cross-posting to groups you have removed

    this one: I tried removing all additional unwanted newsgroups and send,
    and removing all, confirm, add the desider one, send: still xpost, it
    keeps in memory all the original newsgroups

    for sure I'm missing something :oÞ

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  • From Anton Shepelev@21:1/5 to Ammammata on Thu Sep 26 11:59:55 2024
    Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> wrote:

    when I reply to a xpost the program warns me so I remove all the
    groups except one, confirm, send

    What program[1]? Cross-posting is often considered bad practice, unless
    you specify a Followup-To: header with a single group in which the
    discussion is to continue.

    and... it's still xpost, but no more warnings

    If you left only one group in the Newsgroups: header, it is no
    longer an cross-post. Or do you imply that the unnamed program
    you are talking about does not obey your orders and insists on
    cross-posting to groups you have removed?

    this one too: the "Concept" word in the English translation is
    misleading, IMHO "Draft" is much more better ;-)


    [1] The title mentiones `mesnew', but the subject does not, which
    is bad: the subject should generalise the body, not
    supplement it. In other words, the message body should be
    a self-sufficient unit of information, independently of the
    subject.

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to Anton Shepelev on Thu Sep 26 17:31:43 2024
    On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 11:59:55 -0000 (UTC), Anton Shepelev wrote:

    [1] The title mentiones `mesnew', but the subject does not,

    Subject = "title" and it says 'mesnewS'.

    which
    is bad: the subject should generalise the body, not
    supplement it. In other words, the message body should be
    a self-sufficient unit of information, independently of the
    subject.

    What are you on about? Everybody knows the OP is talking about MesNews.

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to Ammammata on Thu Sep 26 17:36:10 2024
    On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 08:52:15 +0200, Ammammata wrote:

    when I reply to a xpost the program warns me
    so I remove all the groups except one, confirm, send and... it's still
    xpost, but no more warnings

    this one too: the "Concept" word in the English translation is
    misleading, IMHO "Draft" is much more better ;-)

    You can try and report this to Arnaud. There's a contact form here: <https://www.mesnews.net/gb/contact2.php>

    Or you can use your newsreader and post it on the internal MN
    newsgroups:
    <news://news.zoo-logique.org/MesNews.International>

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  • From Anton Shepelev@21:1/5 to me@privacy.invalid on Thu Sep 26 17:25:09 2024
    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 11:59:55 -0000 (UTC), Anton Shepelev wrote:

    [1] The title mentiones `mesnew', but the subject does not,

    Subject = "title" and it says 'mesnewS'.

    I meant the /body/ does not mention `mesnews'.

    which
    is bad: the subject should generalise the body, not
    supplement it. In other words, the message body should be
    a self-sufficient unit of information, independently of the
    subject.

    What are you on about? Everybody knows the OP is talking about MesNews.

    I understood it too, but not right away. My point is that the
    article /subject/ shall not be necessary to understand the /body/.
    In other words, the body should be fully understandable in itself,
    and the subject should express the essense of the message, but it
    should not /add/ new information to it.

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  • From Stefan Ram@21:1/5 to Ammammata on Mon Sep 30 16:55:56 2024
    XPost: de.etc.sprache.misc

    Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> wrote or quoted:
    this one too: the "Concept" word in the English translation is
    misleading, IMHO "Draft" is much more better ;-)

    You nailed it!

    In German, this is a total curveball both ways:

    The English "concept" often gets turned into "Konzept", when
    really "Begriff" or "Idee" is what you're looking for.

    On the flip side, the German "Konzept" is often best translated
    as "draft", like you picked up on, but people keep barking
    up the wrong tree with "concept."

    (Daniel Oberle spilled the beans on this about 23 years ago,
    but he's since taken his two cents off the web.)

    Newsgroups: news.software.readers,de.etc.sprache.misc

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