Where can I point others to the 40Tude Dialog installers nowadays?

Was lurking on the Android newsgroup (comp.mobile.android) and ran into a thread opened on Tue, 1 Nov 2022 with subject "Is there some time proven sandbox program for protecting androids?" and with the unique Message-ID: <b2bc34a12eb87594e3ee028d93f8cd8f@dizum.com> where people were suggesting Dialog (see below) and I tried to _find_ it but couldn't find it for them!

What's the pointer, nowadays, for Windows 40Tude Dialog installers?

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Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

- Hamster has very sophisticated filtering/scoring, much more than
Thunderbird, Forte Agent and most other newsreaders.

Only Dialog comes close.

Thanks for the explanation. I think I'll pass. Despite my now
understanding its advantages, I don't want to get involved with extra
work.

Agree with the poster who said regex filtering & onBeforeSendingMessage
script power of Dialog is famous as perhaps the best in all news readers

From my records you first install 40tude Dialog 2.0.15.1 and then you
extract the beta 38 directly on top of that original dialog.exe file

http://www.40tude.com/dialog/download.htm
http://dialog.datalist.org/index.html

Dialog 41 self-extracting archive 4d2b38.exe
Dialog 41 portable zip package dialog.41.zip

Check versions: 40TudeDialog: Help > About > Version 2.0.15.41 (Beta 38)
More at news.software.readers (look up Bernd or Vanguardlh posts)
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On Sun, 6th Nov 2022 05:41:25 +0200, Rudolph Rhein wrote:

Where can I point others to the 40Tude Dialog installers nowadays?

Either point them to an archive.org copy of the former Datalist Wiki
of 40tude Dialog: http://web.archive.org/web/20180427141222/http://dialog.datalist.org/downloads/download.html

or to the Download section of the German 40tude Dialog FAQ: https://www.barghahn-online.de/4td_faq/download.php

To get a somewhat readable English translation of this FAQ it can be run through Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.barghahn-online.de/4td_faq

Because of the long time without security updates, any connection of 40tude Dialog to the Internet should be run through an SSL/TLS-Proxy like sTunnel. Additional information on this (and several other topics) can be found in
the FAQ, as well.

HTH.
Bernd

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Bernd Rose <b.rose.tmpbox@arcor.de> wrote:

Because of the long time without security updates, any connection of 40tude Dialog to the Internet should be run through an SSL/TLS-Proxy like sTunnel. Additional information on this (and several other topics) can be found in
the FAQ, as well.

For a few years now, an encrypted tunnel such as a Stunnel SSL/TLS-Proxy
has been required for dialog connections to encrypted services such as
those on port 563 (example news.eternal-september.org:563) but what about
when nntp is only available on non-encrypted servers (example news.dizum.net:119 or news.neodome.net:119)?

Can Stunnel be used for port 119 if that's the only available nntp port?

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On Mon, 14th Nov 2022 18:54:09 +0200, Rudolph Rhein wrote:

Bernd Rose <b.rose.tmpbox@arcor.de> wrote:

Because of the long time without security updates, any connection of 40tude >> Dialog to the Internet should be run through an SSL/TLS-Proxy like sTunnel. >> Additional information on this (and several other topics) can be found in
the FAQ, as well.

For a few years now, an encrypted tunnel such as a Stunnel SSL/TLS-Proxy
has been required for dialog connections to encrypted services such as
those on port 563 (example news.eternal-september.org:563) but what about when nntp is only available on non-encrypted servers (example news.dizum.net:119 or news.neodome.net:119)?

Can Stunnel be used for port 119 if that's the only available nntp port?

Connecting Dialog via sTunnel is not done to provide some kind of firewall around it. The only purpose is, to use current encryption for the transfer
of data between the PC running Dialog and the NNTP server. And because all Usenet data is out in the open, anyways, the protection is mostly targeted
on the account password. (And to a lesser degree to prevent any spying MITM from profiling, which threads and messages are read.)

Therefore, unencrypted logins can still be initiated directly from Dialog.
If several servers are set up in Dialog, mixed connection methods are
possible, as well: Encrypted connections running through sTunnel, while unencrypted connections use direct access.

AFAICT, there are no known bugs in Dialog, that can be abused through any connection method (encrypted or not).

Bernd

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