• Midnight Cowboy review

    From Edward Jackson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 5 15:29:38 2023
    Over Fucking rated

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Edward Jackson on Thu Jan 5 18:58:18 2023
    On 1/5/2023 6:29 PM, Edward Jackson wrote:
    Over Fucking rated

    It broke some Hollywood taboos. Doesn't have that punch today.

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  • From Mack A. Damia@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 5 16:30:41 2023
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:58:18 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/5/2023 6:29 PM, Edward Jackson wrote:
    Over Fucking rated

    It broke some Hollywood taboos. Doesn't have that punch today.

    Very relatable to those who knew the time and place. 1960s-1970s NYC.

    Times change, but it still has a certain intensity to it.

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  • From Edward Jackson@21:1/5 to Mack A. Damia on Thu Jan 5 17:52:06 2023
    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:30:47 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:58:18 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
    wrote:
    On 1/5/2023 6:29 PM, Edward Jackson wrote:
    Over Fucking rated

    It broke some Hollywood taboos. Doesn't have that punch today.
    Very relatable to those who knew the time and place. 1960s-1970s NYC.

    Times change, but it still has a certain intensity to it.


    Was NYC really like that then or was the writer and Hollywood just trying to push the homosexual agenda

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  • From Mack A. Damia@21:1/5 to Beaver_Fever@live.com on Thu Jan 5 18:07:52 2023
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:52:06 -0800 (PST), Edward Jackson
    <Beaver_Fever@live.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:30:47 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:58:18 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
    wrote:
    On 1/5/2023 6:29 PM, Edward Jackson wrote:
    Over Fucking rated

    It broke some Hollywood taboos. Doesn't have that punch today.
    Very relatable to those who knew the time and place. 1960s-1970s NYC.

    Times change, but it still has a certain intensity to it.


    Was NYC really like that then or was the writer and Hollywood just trying to push the homosexual agenda

    I moved their in the early 1980s. Taught in public schools, and a
    business school very near Times Square.

    This was towards the end of the NYC scene you saw in "Midnight
    Cowboy", but 42nd Street and Times Square were as squalid as you saw
    in the film. I lived a fairly wild lifestyle in those days even
    thought I was a teacher. And I was young.

    Mayor Rudolph Giuliani became the mayor in 1994, and he started
    cleaning the area up. I had moved away in the late 1980s due to
    burnout.

    I don't know anything about the "homosexual agenda", but you could
    find whatever you wanted, and you didn't have to look too far.

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Mack A. Damia on Thu Jan 5 20:22:15 2023
    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 6:08:00 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:52:06 -0800 (PST), Edward Jackson
    <Beaver...@live.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:30:47 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:58:18 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
    wrote:
    On 1/5/2023 6:29 PM, Edward Jackson wrote:
    Over Fucking rated

    It broke some Hollywood taboos. Doesn't have that punch today.
    Very relatable to those who knew the time and place. 1960s-1970s NYC.

    Times change, but it still has a certain intensity to it.


    Was NYC really like that then or was the writer and Hollywood just trying to push the homosexual agenda
    I moved their in the early 1980s. Taught in public schools, and a
    business school very near Times Square.

    This was towards the end of the NYC scene you saw in "Midnight
    Cowboy", but 42nd Street and Times Square were as squalid as you saw
    in the film. I lived a fairly wild lifestyle in those days even
    thought I was a teacher. And I was young.

    Mayor Rudolph Giuliani became the mayor in 1994, and he started
    cleaning the area up. I had moved away in the late 1980s due to
    burnout.

    I don't know anything about the "homosexual agenda", but you could
    find whatever you wanted, and you didn't have to look too far.

    The NYC that is portayed in TAXI DRIVER has also disappeared.

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  • From Edward Jackson@21:1/5 to Mack A. Damia on Thu Jan 5 23:00:46 2023
    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 6:08:00 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:52:06 -0800 (PST), Edward Jackson
    <Beaver...@live.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:30:47 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:58:18 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
    wrote:
    On 1/5/2023 6:29 PM, Edward Jackson wrote:
    Over Fucking rated

    It broke some Hollywood taboos. Doesn't have that punch today.
    Very relatable to those who knew the time and place. 1960s-1970s NYC.

    Times change, but it still has a certain intensity to it.


    Was NYC really like that then or was the writer and Hollywood just trying to push the homosexual agenda
    I moved their in the early 1980s. Taught in public schools, and a
    business school very near Times Square.

    This was towards the end of the NYC scene you saw in "Midnight
    Cowboy", but 42nd Street and Times Square were as squalid as you saw
    in the film. I lived a fairly wild lifestyle in those days even
    thought I was a teacher. And I was young.

    Mayor Rudolph Giuliani became the mayor in 1994, and he started
    cleaning the area up. I had moved away in the late 1980s due to
    burnout.

    I don't know anything about the "homosexual agenda", but you could
    find whatever you wanted, and you didn't have to look too far.


    Normalizing gay for pay by straight dudes.

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  • From Mack A. Damia@21:1/5 to Beaver_Fever@live.com on Thu Jan 5 23:39:22 2023
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 23:00:46 -0800 (PST), Edward Jackson
    <Beaver_Fever@live.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 6:08:00 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:52:06 -0800 (PST), Edward Jackson
    <Beaver...@live.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:30:47 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:58:18 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
    wrote:
    On 1/5/2023 6:29 PM, Edward Jackson wrote:
    Over Fucking rated

    It broke some Hollywood taboos. Doesn't have that punch today.
    Very relatable to those who knew the time and place. 1960s-1970s NYC.

    Times change, but it still has a certain intensity to it.


    Was NYC really like that then or was the writer and Hollywood just trying to push the homosexual agenda
    I moved their in the early 1980s. Taught in public schools, and a
    business school very near Times Square.

    This was towards the end of the NYC scene you saw in "Midnight
    Cowboy", but 42nd Street and Times Square were as squalid as you saw
    in the film. I lived a fairly wild lifestyle in those days even
    thought I was a teacher. And I was young.

    Mayor Rudolph Giuliani became the mayor in 1994, and he started
    cleaning the area up. I had moved away in the late 1980s due to
    burnout.

    I don't know anything about the "homosexual agenda", but you could
    find whatever you wanted, and you didn't have to look too far.


    Normalizing gay for pay by straight dudes.

    Maybe if you are that broke, out of money and hungry.

    The depths of despair?

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  • From Mack A. Damia@21:1/5 to Beaver_Fever@live.com on Fri Jan 6 05:26:58 2023
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 23:00:46 -0800 (PST), Edward Jackson
    <Beaver_Fever@live.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 6:08:00 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:52:06 -0800 (PST), Edward Jackson
    <Beaver...@live.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:30:47 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:58:18 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
    wrote:
    On 1/5/2023 6:29 PM, Edward Jackson wrote:
    Over Fucking rated

    It broke some Hollywood taboos. Doesn't have that punch today.
    Very relatable to those who knew the time and place. 1960s-1970s NYC.

    Times change, but it still has a certain intensity to it.


    Was NYC really like that then or was the writer and Hollywood just trying to push the homosexual agenda
    I moved their in the early 1980s. Taught in public schools, and a
    business school very near Times Square.

    This was towards the end of the NYC scene you saw in "Midnight
    Cowboy", but 42nd Street and Times Square were as squalid as you saw
    in the film. I lived a fairly wild lifestyle in those days even
    thought I was a teacher. And I was young.

    Mayor Rudolph Giuliani became the mayor in 1994, and he started
    cleaning the area up. I had moved away in the late 1980s due to
    burnout.

    I don't know anything about the "homosexual agenda", but you could
    find whatever you wanted, and you didn't have to look too far.


    Normalizing gay for pay by straight dudes.

    Did you ever read Al Goldstein's "Screw Magazine"? More in the form
    of a tabloid newspaper. Came out weekly.

    Pages and pages of names and photos offering all sorts of more-or-less perverted sexual fantasies - and just one easy phone call away.

    (Wiki): Obituary
    Goldstein was described in his obituary in The New York Times as "a cartoonishly vituperative amalgam of Borscht Belt comic, free-range
    social critic and sex-obsessed loser who seemed to embody a moment in
    New York City's cultural history: the sleaze and decay of Times Square
    in the 1960s and ‘70s.

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  • From Mack A. Damia@21:1/5 to drsteerforth@yahoo.com on Fri Jan 6 06:41:34 2023
    On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 05:26:58 -0800, Mack A. Damia
    <drsteerforth@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 23:00:46 -0800 (PST), Edward Jackson ><Beaver_Fever@live.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 6:08:00 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:52:06 -0800 (PST), Edward Jackson
    <Beaver...@live.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:30:47 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:58:18 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
    wrote:
    On 1/5/2023 6:29 PM, Edward Jackson wrote:
    Over Fucking rated

    It broke some Hollywood taboos. Doesn't have that punch today.
    Very relatable to those who knew the time and place. 1960s-1970s NYC. >>> >>
    Times change, but it still has a certain intensity to it.


    Was NYC really like that then or was the writer and Hollywood just trying to push the homosexual agenda
    I moved their in the early 1980s. Taught in public schools, and a
    business school very near Times Square.

    This was towards the end of the NYC scene you saw in "Midnight
    Cowboy", but 42nd Street and Times Square were as squalid as you saw
    in the film. I lived a fairly wild lifestyle in those days even
    thought I was a teacher. And I was young.

    Mayor Rudolph Giuliani became the mayor in 1994, and he started
    cleaning the area up. I had moved away in the late 1980s due to
    burnout.

    I don't know anything about the "homosexual agenda", but you could
    find whatever you wanted, and you didn't have to look too far.


    Normalizing gay for pay by straight dudes.

    Did you ever read Al Goldstein's "Screw Magazine"? More in the form
    of a tabloid newspaper. Came out weekly.

    Pages and pages of names and photos offering all sorts of more-or-less >perverted sexual fantasies - and just one easy phone call away.

    (Wiki): Obituary
    Goldstein was described in his obituary in The New York Times as "a >cartoonishly vituperative amalgam of Borscht Belt comic, free-range
    social critic and sex-obsessed loser who seemed to embody a moment in
    New York City's cultural history: the sleaze and decay of Times Square
    in the 1960s and ‘70s.

    "Continuing Education":

    A couple of months ago, for old time's sake, I sent away for a copy
    from a seller on eBay.

    October 31, 1988, fifty-five pages:

    (I can't fit the entire page on the scanner)

    TV Guide:

    https://ibb.co/6nstDS5


    Gay Baths:

    https://ibb.co/FWmz3X3

    Other pages:

    Hell's Belles (S&M)

    Straight sex.

    Enjoy, What's your passion?

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Mack A. Damia on Fri Jan 6 18:24:35 2023
    In article <9tverhdirbuucbk49c6unjmehfbgfun4cr@4ax.com>,
    Mack A. Damia <drsteerforth@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:52:06 -0800 (PST), Edward Jackson <Beaver_Fever@live.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:30:47 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:58:18 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
    wrote:
    On 1/5/2023 6:29 PM, Edward Jackson wrote:
    Over Fucking rated

    It broke some Hollywood taboos. Doesn't have that punch today.
    Very relatable to those who knew the time and place. 1960s-1970s NYC.

    Times change, but it still has a certain intensity to it.


    Was NYC really like that then or was the writer and Hollywood just trying to >push the homosexual agenda

    I moved their in the early 1980s. Taught in public schools, and a
    business school very near Times Square.

    This was towards the end of the NYC scene you saw in "Midnight
    Cowboy", but 42nd Street and Times Square were as squalid as you saw
    in the film. I lived a fairly wild lifestyle in those days even
    thought I was a teacher. And I was young.

    Mayor Rudolph Giuliani became the mayor in 1994, and he started
    cleaning the area up. I had moved away in the late 1980s due to
    burnout.

    I don't know anything about the "homosexual agenda", but you could
    find whatever you wanted, and you didn't have to look too far.

    I think it's a fine film. I wasn't able to see it upon release, the X
    rating it had seems a little quaint nowadays. I think I remember seeing
    the preview for it when I saw Sergio Leone's "Once Upon a Time in the
    West" which ironically was probably more "adult" than "Midnight Cowboy."

    Director John Schlesinger was gay and the scene with Voight and John
    McGiver was probably as responsible for the X rating as the brief
    heterosexual scene with Voight and Sylvia Miles.

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  • From Mack A. Damia@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Fri Jan 6 18:09:09 2023
    On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 18:24:35 -0600, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    In article <9tverhdirbuucbk49c6unjmehfbgfun4cr@4ax.com>,
    Mack A. Damia <drsteerforth@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 17:52:06 -0800 (PST), Edward Jackson
    <Beaver_Fever@live.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:30:47 PM UTC-8, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:58:18 -0500, moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com>
    wrote:
    On 1/5/2023 6:29 PM, Edward Jackson wrote:
    Over Fucking rated

    It broke some Hollywood taboos. Doesn't have that punch today.
    Very relatable to those who knew the time and place. 1960s-1970s NYC.

    Times change, but it still has a certain intensity to it.


    Was NYC really like that then or was the writer and Hollywood just trying to
    push the homosexual agenda

    I moved their in the early 1980s. Taught in public schools, and a
    business school very near Times Square.

    This was towards the end of the NYC scene you saw in "Midnight
    Cowboy", but 42nd Street and Times Square were as squalid as you saw
    in the film. I lived a fairly wild lifestyle in those days even
    thought I was a teacher. And I was young.

    Mayor Rudolph Giuliani became the mayor in 1994, and he started
    cleaning the area up. I had moved away in the late 1980s due to
    burnout.

    I don't know anything about the "homosexual agenda", but you could
    find whatever you wanted, and you didn't have to look too far.

    I think it's a fine film. I wasn't able to see it upon release, the X
    rating it had seems a little quaint nowadays. I think I remember seeing
    the preview for it when I saw Sergio Leone's "Once Upon a Time in the
    West" which ironically was probably more "adult" than "Midnight Cowboy."

    Director John Schlesinger was gay and the scene with Voight and John
    McGiver was probably as responsible for the X rating as the brief >heterosexual scene with Voight and Sylvia Miles.

    Motion Picture Association of America’s prudish ratings board gave it
    an X-rating because of the scenes of fellatio, sodomy and
    sadomasochism.

    After it won the Academy Award for Best Picture, the Board begged
    Schlesinger to cut some of the scenes, but he adamantly refused. They
    changed the rating to "R" anyway.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Mack A. Damia on Sun Jan 8 21:30:09 2023
    In article <iokhrh58sekvi2km7beoflfccjsmd62e8r@4ax.com>,
    Mack A. Damia <drsteerforth@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 18:24:35 -0600, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
    I think it's a fine film. I wasn't able to see it upon release, the X >rating it had seems a little quaint nowadays. I think I remember seeing
    the preview for it when I saw Sergio Leone's "Once Upon a Time in the
    West" which ironically was probably more "adult" than "Midnight Cowboy."

    Director John Schlesinger was gay and the scene with Voight and John >McGiver was probably as responsible for the X rating as the brief >heterosexual scene with Voight and Sylvia Miles.

    Motion Picture Association of America‚s prudish ratings board gave it
    an X-rating because of the scenes of fellatio, sodomy and
    sadomasochism.

    After it won the Academy Award for Best Picture, the Board begged
    Schlesinger to cut some of the scenes, but he adamantly refused. They changed the rating to "R" anyway.

    Wonder if MGM/UA ever put this movie out in a decent widescreen format.
    I own an earlier DVD release (probably the original one) and it only
    works in "Normal" zoom mode with some serious black bars on all four
    sides; if you try to zoom it larger it screws up the proportion which I
    hate worse than watching a smaller picture.

    Maybe they finally got their act together for the Blu-Ray release.

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