• Fall Of Eagles?

    From Edward Jackson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 18 21:14:05 2023
    If I can spare the time to binge this is it worth it?

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  • From Bill Anderson@21:1/5 to Edward Jackson on Thu Jan 19 13:07:50 2023
    Edward Jackson <Beaver_Fever@live.com> wrote:
    If I can spare the time to binge this is it worth it?


    Boy does that question bring back memories from 2008 when I binged the
    whole thing. I just looked up my comments and the subsequent thread on
    Usenet. And my answer to your question is that if you like this kind of
    thing then yes by all means you want to watch it. BYW, in the intervening
    years I have visited Austria and other central European countries and
    toured the palaces and visited the museums and I have to say watching this series was a great preparation for those trips.


    Bill Anderson
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    7/8/08

    Yes, this is off-topic, but I'm posting it anyway -- so there.
    I just completed watching the 13-part 1974 BBC television miniseries
    "Fall of Eagles," the story of how the pathetic ineptness of the
    Hapsburgs, Hohenzollerns and Romanovs gave us much of the misery of the
    20th Century. The show is just a magnificent soap opera with all the
    brilliant acting, eloquent writing, and limited production values of "I, Claudius." Patrick Stewart was very convincing as Lenin, and I
    especially enjoyed Curt Jurgens as Bismarck, Gayle Hunnicutt as
    Alexandra, and especially Barry Foster as poor wacky Kaiser Wilhelm --
    "Willy" to cousins "Nicky" (Tsar Nicholas) and "Franz" (Joseph, Emperor
    of Austria-Hungary).

    I've been watching most of it on my iPod while traveling, though I
    finished it tonight here at home on TV. Watching it came in handy
    during one of my trips a few weeks ago when I found myself at a banquet
    seated across from a very nice-looking young lady from Europe. She
    spoke English, but seemed shy at first, especially when I asked where
    she was from. She replied, "Austria; do you know it?" I suppose I
    looked puzzled, because she added, "My colleagues have told me Americans
    have never heard of Austria." Well, I attempted a weak joke about some Americans perhaps mis-hearing or confusing Austria for Australia, but
    no, she seriously thought I'd likely never heard of her homeland. So
    after admitting that while I've visited Italy, Germany and Switzerland,
    I've never been to Austria, I quickly scavenged my brain cells for facts
    about Mozart, Strauss, the New Year's Day concerts I hope some day to
    attend, The Third Man and the Ferris wheel which is still in operation,
    and um, um, (no, idiot, don't bring up Kurt Waldheim) oh yeah, the Hohenzollerns from "Fall of Eagles." She was suitably impressed, I
    think -- at least she sought me out for lunch the next day. Who knew
    "Fall of Eagles" would come in so handy, and so quickly, too?

    It's a good series -- even more entertaining than Modern History class
    in high school. (You know who wrote the textbook we used in that class
    in 1965? Carl Becker, that's who. It was the only question I missed on
    the final. I still hate you for that, Coach Graninger, wherever you are.)

    Argh. Austria = Hapsburg or Habsburg, not Hohenzollern. Well, I got it
    right on the final and at dinner too -- but not tonight apparently.
    Time to go to bed.


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    tomcervo
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    7/9/08
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    It's very good in parts, mainly depending on the screenplays, with
    different writers for each episode. Trevor Griffiths anatomizes
    Lenin's takeover of the party in exile incisively, but you need an
    illustrated cast list to tell the Bolshies apart. The ep devoted to
    Mayerling is like a police documentary told through the cops and
    functionaries who have to create the cover-up--nothing romantic about
    the sordid mess, but you end up with a sneaking respect for the pros
    who have to make royalty look good.

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    edju
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    7/9/08

    My favorite line from "Fall of Eagles" -- Nicholas meets with his
    ministers as Austria annexes Serbia, starting the chain of events that
    would lead to WWI. The ministers were yelling about various approaches
    to the problem. After they're dismissed, Alexandra says to
    Nicholas -- "Nicky, just write to your cousin, the Kaiser. It's so
    much easier."


    Bill Anderson
    unread,
    7/9/08

    Heh, that was a memorable episode all right -- well written and acted.
    What's the first reaction to a major scandal? Cover it up, of course.
    And then it all starts to unravel, and revelation piles on top of
    revelation until stories like that of the President and that woman Miss Lewinsky begin to seem downright unremarkable.



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