• Re: What makes the Ten Commandments and Ben-Hur so Great?

    From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to TBerk on Thu Jun 2 23:20:05 2022
    On Thursday, August 28, 2008 at 12:33:41 PM UTC-10, TBerk wrote:
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    Of course they are from another time. But I'm watching Ben-Hur on TCM
    right now and 'the Ten Commandments' is scheduled for the weekend on
    the big screen at the Stanford Theater.
    I continue to impress myself with the (re)watchability of these two
    great films.
    I watch them again and again, with some time in between viewings
    admittedly, but they are like a film school semester to me.
    They are long, run time wise, but there is time and repose and pauses
    in them that make sense.
    There is reference to historical events all around the principals,
    events that looking back with hindsight stand tall in history. This is
    said without any affiliation to any particular orientation, religion,
    point of worldview.
    In the Ten Commandments events happen from modest beginnings but swell
    up to involve a whole peoples. In Ben-Hur it remains one man's tale
    but his family's fortunes rise and fall with the things hat happen to
    him, and in both the churning of history in the making to which they
    are swept along as well as pivotal catalytic agents.
    An easy comment made many times is that these films could never be
    made today with the same grandeur and beauty, and while this may be
    true what does the future hold?- with HD and a mature use of CGI and
    (from _somewhere_) developed actors to inhabit characters both deep
    and wide.
    Perhaps not in our lifetime, but hopefully one day. Greatness will be achieved, achieved and surpassed.

    TBerk

    (Youtube upload):

    "The Making of the Movie 'The Ten Commandments' (1956)"

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  • From Evelyn Leeper@21:1/5 to TBerk on Sun Jun 5 22:19:00 2022
    On Thursday, August 28, 2008 at 6:33:41 PM UTC-4, TBerk wrote:
    .
    ...
    An easy comment made many times is that these films could never be
    made today with the same grandeur and beauty, and while this may be
    true what does the future hold?- with HD and a mature use of CGI and
    (from _somewhere_) developed actors to inhabit characters both deep
    and wide.
    Perhaps not in our lifetime, but hopefully one day. Greatness will be achieved, achieved and surpassed.

    Part of what makes THE TEN COMMANDMENTS great is that when Moses
    leads 10,000 people out of Egypt, he is really leading 10,00 people out of Egypt. That is to say, there are that many real people in the scene. (No,
    I didn't count them, but the figure quoted for extras is 15,000; I'm
    assuming not all of them were used in this scene.) (In THE MAN WHO
    WOULD BE KING, you see a huge crowd of people following the heroes--and
    they're people, not a CGI construct. It makes a difference. SPARTACUS
    used 50,000 extras. GANDHI had 300,000 extras in the funeral scene.)

    As for BEN HUR, I am among the (probably) few people who thinks the
    chariot race in the 1925 version was more exciting than in the 1959 version.

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to TBerk on Sat Jul 9 23:44:29 2022
    On Thursday, August 28, 2008 at 3:33:41 PM UTC-7, TBerk wrote:
    .
    Of course they are from another time. But I'm watching Ben-Hur on TCM
    right now and 'the Ten Commandments' is scheduled for the weekend on
    the big screen at the Stanford Theater.
    I continue to impress myself with the (re)watchability of these two
    great films.
    I watch them again and again, with some time in between viewings
    admittedly, but they are like a film school semester to me.
    They are long, run time wise, but there is time and repose and pauses
    in them that make sense.
    There is reference to historical events all around the principals,
    events that looking back with hindsight stand tall in history. This is
    said without any affiliation to any particular orientation, religion,
    point of worldview.
    In the Ten Commandments events happen from modest beginnings but swell
    up to involve a whole peoples. In Ben-Hur it remains one man's tale
    but his family's fortunes rise and fall with the things hat happen to
    him, and in both the churning of history in the making to which they
    are swept along as well as pivotal catalytic agents.
    An easy comment made many times is that these films could never be
    made today with the same grandeur and beauty, and while this may be
    true what does the future hold?- with HD and a mature use of CGI and
    (from _somewhere_) developed actors to inhabit characters both deep
    and wide.
    Perhaps not in our lifetime, but hopefully one day. Greatness will be achieved, achieved and surpassed.

    TBerk

    (Recent Youtube upload):

    THE TEN COMMANDMENTS 1956 Cast THEN AND NOW 2022 INCREDIBLE Changed, Thanks For The Memories

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