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  • Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition

    From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 17 13:48:25 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2021/08/17

    And people think that Single Payer is going to fix all this. Ha ! Oh
    yeah, we are headed there.

    Lynn

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Tue Aug 17 17:12:51 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 13:48:25 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2021/08/17

    And people think that Single Payer is going to fix all this. Ha ! Oh
    yeah, we are headed there.

    God save us.

    Once the do-gooders figure out that their "free" medical actually
    costs something, we'll all be looking back on the good old days.

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  • From Leif Roar Moldskred@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Wed Aug 18 01:11:55 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In rec.arts.sf.written Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2021/08/17

    And people think that Single Payer is going to fix all this. Ha ! Oh
    yeah, we are headed there.


    When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer
    system _would_ fix it.

    --
    Leif Roar Moldskred
    It's not pre _treatment_, it's pre _insurance_.

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Tue Aug 17 22:22:38 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2021-08-17 11:48 a.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
    Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition
       https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2021/08/17

    And people think that Single Payer is going to fix all this. Ha ! Oh
    yeah, we are headed there.

    I've had a right biceps tendon since birth...

    ...but BC's single-payer system paid for it just fine.

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to leifm@huldreheim.Home on Wed Aug 18 10:26:32 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 01:11:55 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred
    <leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    In rec.arts.sf.written Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2021/08/17

    And people think that Single Payer is going to fix all this. Ha ! Oh
    yeah, we are headed there.


    When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer
    system _would_ fix it.

    Only if the politicans who create it agrew that it should fix it. If
    the government is running it it is going to be dominated by politics,
    just like everything else the government runs.

    I want to see the government make Medicare and Medicaid both work and
    work efficiently. If they can't do that then why should the rest of
    us suffer from their incompetence?

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  • From Leif Roar Moldskred@21:1/5 to J. Clarke on Wed Aug 18 09:35:15 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In rec.arts.sf.written J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 01:11:55 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer >>system _would_ fix it.

    Only if the politicans who create it agrew that it should fix it.


    No. With a single-payer system there are no pre-existing conditions
    because there are no insurance agreements for conditions to be "pre"
    to.

    "Pre-existing conditions" is only a concern when dealing with health
    insurance. In a single-payer system there is no health insurance (at
    least, health insurance is not an _important_ factor.) So, no
    'pre-existing conditions'.

    --
    Leif Roar Moldskred
    Words _do_ mean things, you know.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to J. Clarke on Wed Aug 18 14:44:54 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
    On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 01:11:55 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred ><leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:


    I want to see the government make Medicare and Medicaid both work and
    work efficiently. If they can't do that then why should the rest of
    us suffer from their incompetence?

    They do work efficiently. Much more efficiently than the
    private system currently in place (2% overhead for medicare
    vs 13+% (and much higher before the PP-ACA) overhead for private insurance).

    So, using your argument, the private insurers are the incompetents.

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/sep/20/bernie-sanders/comparing-administrative-costs-private-insurance-a/

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to leifm@huldreheim.Home on Wed Aug 18 10:51:03 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 09:35:15 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred
    <leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    In rec.arts.sf.written J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 01:11:55 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred
    <leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer >>>system _would_ fix it.

    Only if the politicans who create it agrew that it should fix it.


    No. With a single-payer system there are no pre-existing conditions
    because there are no insurance agreements for conditions to be "pre"
    to.

    You are assuming that the politicians will set things up the way that
    _you_ think that they should be set up.

    "Pre-existing conditions" is only a concern when dealing with health >insurance. In a single-payer system there is no health insurance (at
    least, health insurance is not an _important_ factor.) So, no
    'pre-existing conditions'.

    A single payer system _is_ health insurance. It's just that there's a
    single insurer, the government, that can make any stupid rules it
    wants to.

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to J. Clarke on Wed Aug 18 08:04:11 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2021-08-18 7:26 a.m., J. Clarke wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 01:11:55 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    In rec.arts.sf.written Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2021/08/17

    And people think that Single Payer is going to fix all this. Ha ! Oh
    yeah, we are headed there.


    When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer
    system _would_ fix it.

    Only if the politicans who create it agrew that it should fix it. If
    the government is running it it is going to be dominated by politics,
    just like everything else the government runs.

    Show any place in the world where they don't agree.


    I want to see the government make Medicare and Medicaid both work and
    work efficiently. If they can't do that then why should the rest of
    us suffer from their incompetence?

    Why should the rest of you suffer so that medical insurance companies
    can make billions?

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  • From Alan Baker@21:1/5 to J. Clarke on Wed Aug 18 08:05:07 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2021-08-18 7:51 a.m., J. Clarke wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 09:35:15 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    In rec.arts.sf.written J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 01:11:55 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred
    <leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer >>>> system _would_ fix it.

    Only if the politicans who create it agrew that it should fix it.


    No. With a single-payer system there are no pre-existing conditions
    because there are no insurance agreements for conditions to be "pre"
    to.

    You are assuming that the politicians will set things up the way that
    _you_ think that they should be set up.

    You keep failing to show any place where it has been set up as you suggest.


    "Pre-existing conditions" is only a concern when dealing with health
    insurance. In a single-payer system there is no health insurance (at
    least, health insurance is not an _important_ factor.) So, no
    'pre-existing conditions'.

    A single payer system _is_ health insurance. It's just that there's a
    single insurer, the government, that can make any stupid rules it
    wants to.

    And yet, you cannot show this actually happening.

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  • From Jonathan@21:1/5 to J. Clarke on Wed Aug 18 11:37:18 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 8/17/2021 5:12 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 13:48:25 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2021/08/17

    And people think that Single Payer is going to fix all this. Ha ! Oh
    yeah, we are headed there.

    God save us.

    Once the do-gooders figure out that their "free" medical actually
    costs something, we'll all be looking back on the good old days.



    Ya those without health insurance should just continue
    to go-crawl-into-a-corner-and-die.

    Health insurance? What do these spoiled Americans
    gonna want next?, jobs, food and shelter?

    AND health insurance too? The Horror!

    What's this country coming to when you can't stick it
    to the poor and sick anymore?

    In 2018 there were 18.2 million fewer uninsured people
    in the U.S. than when the ACA became law. https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2019/aug/who-are-remaining-uninsured-and-why-do-they-lack-coverage



    --
    BIG LIE From Wiki - "The German expression was coined by Adolf Hitler
    when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, to describe the use of a lie
    so *colossal* that no one would believe that someone "could have the
    impudence to distort the truth so infamously." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to jclarke.873638@gmail.com on Wed Aug 18 09:31:58 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 10:26:32 -0400, J. Clarke
    <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 01:11:55 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred ><leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    In rec.arts.sf.written Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2021/08/17

    And people think that Single Payer is going to fix all this. Ha ! Oh
    yeah, we are headed there.


    When it comes to the issue of "pre-existing conditions" a single payer >>system _would_ fix it.

    Only if the politicans who create it agrew that it should fix it. If
    the government is running it it is going to be dominated by politics,
    just like everything else the government runs.

    I want to see the government make Medicare and Medicaid both work and
    work efficiently. If they can't do that then why should the rest of
    us suffer from their incompetence?

    Then you shouldn't have any problem with Medicare being opened up to
    everyone. Being so inefficient and restrictive, it would, of course,
    be out-competed by the insurance companies competing with it.

    Medicaid is something else entirely. For one thing, the States
    administer it, so the efficiency varies.
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Wed Aug 18 09:24:00 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 13:48:25 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Pearls Before Swine: Pre-existing Condition
    https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2021/08/17

    And people think that Single Payer is going to fix all this. Ha ! Oh
    yeah, we are headed there.

    Ignoring, of course, the ACA ban on "pre-existing conditions".
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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