A South Korean group claims that the Japanese flag with the rising sun
is a sign of Japan's aggressive past, much like the swastika is one of Germany's.

In Kimetsu no Yaiba, Tanjiro wears earrings that resemble this
Japanese flag.

Netflix has now given in to the campaign and replaced the original
earrings with modified ones that no longer resemble the Japanese flag
in question.



I suspect something similar is likely to happen to history, as we know
it, in the near future. Mainland Chinese scholars claim that Western
history is a mere invention to harm China. 500 years ago there was no
western history, they say and the pyramids etc. were built by the
colonial powers 200 years ago to create the appearance of a
civilization that was thousands of years old. Everything has it's real
origin in China, and the westerners want to hide this, they claim.

I think, it's just a question of time, when these campaigns will
start.



The Taiwanese are different. Taiwan was the country with the most less
censored animes, as it came to Ishuzoku Reviewers. They only joined
the rest of the world when the censorship started to become more
intense.

Perhaps that is also the reason why the population in Taiwan has only
been shrinking since the beginning of this year, while in Japan it has
been the case for much longer.

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On 2021-03-15 4:03 p.m., Arne Luft wrote:

A South Korean group claims that the Japanese flag with the rising sun
is a sign of Japan's aggressive past, much like the swastika is one of Germany's.

In Kimetsu no Yaiba, Tanjiro wears earrings that resemble this
Japanese flag.

Netflix has now given in to the campaign and replaced the original
earrings with modified ones that no longer resemble the Japanese flag
in question.

I suspect something similar is likely to happen to history, as we know
it, in the near future. Mainland Chinese scholars claim that Western
history is a mere invention to harm China. 500 years ago there was no
western history, they say and the pyramids etc. were built by the
colonial powers 200 years ago to create the appearance of a
civilization that was thousands of years old. Everything has it's real
origin in China, and the westerners want to hide this, they claim.

<snort> While there is one loony professor in China who claims that I seriously doubt it's the general academic consensus there.

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On 3/17/21 10:22 AM, David Johnston wrote:

On 2021-03-15 4:03 p.m., Arne Luft wrote:

A South Korean group claims that the Japanese flag with the rising sun
is a sign of Japan's aggressive past, much like the swastika is one of
Germany's.

In Kimetsu no Yaiba, Tanjiro wears earrings that resemble this
Japanese flag.

Netflix has now given in to the campaign and replaced the original
earrings with modified ones that no longer resemble the Japanese flag
in question.



I suspect something similar is likely to happen to history, as we know
it, in the near future. Mainland Chinese scholars claim that Western
history is a mere invention to harm China. 500 years ago there was no
western history, they say and the pyramids etc. were built by the
colonial powers 200 years ago to create the appearance of a
civilization that was thousands of years old. Everything has it's real
origin in China, and the westerners want to hide this, they claim.

<snort>  While there is one loony professor in China who claims that I seriously doubt it's the general academic consensus there.

Well that is a weight off my mind. How can civilization move forward if it denies where it has been?
Do Western History and Western Civilization claim the Pyramids
of Egypt? I think rather they marvel that the ancients whose built them managed to do so without modern tools.
Egyptian and Modern Civilizations have few connections, They
were Sun Worshipers of course, like many ancient people but they did
have a God who died and whose Wife resurrected Him, then had a child
by him to replace the old, damaged by death, Sun God. The Pharaoh,
the Ruler. was said to be the presence of the Sun God on Earth.
We had sun worship in the Ancient America's and if the Japanese
are telling the truth so did they. But they had a Sun Goddess and the
eventual Imperial Line were Her descendants. I think that the Chinese
had advanced to ancestor worship fairly early. Then there are the
pantheons (archetypal examples) for humanity to satisfy or defy.

Now if various religions had not chosen to burn the Library
at Alexandria we would have the books to prove it. Probably still
enough remains to prove a case but the Chinese were really into
family records in a religious way and know which ancestors were notable
and which got by.

bliss

--
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:22:55 -0600, David Johnston
<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 2021-03-15 4:03 p.m., Arne Luft wrote:

I suspect something similar is likely to happen to history, as we know
it, in the near future. Mainland Chinese scholars claim that Western
history is a mere invention to harm China. 500 years ago there was no
western history, they say and the pyramids etc. were built by the
colonial powers 200 years ago to create the appearance of a
civilization that was thousands of years old. Everything has it's real
origin in China, and the westerners want to hide this, they claim.

<snort> While there is one loony professor in China who claims that I >seriously doubt it's the general academic consensus there.

This is not an isolated incident. There are a lot of such people and
ideas in Mainland China. And they are highly educated people.

Example: The claim that English is actually a Chinese dialect.

https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=44389

"September 13, 2019
....
Reporter: Professor Zhai, does English really come from ancient China?
This really sounds unimaginable, because these are two completely
different languages.

Zhai Guiyun: Yes, English truly originated in ancient China. Many
people teaching English in China have discovered that you can learn
English using the so called “memorizing-through-association” method.
Actually, it’s because so-called “ideographic” and “implied” meanings
[of words] are very close in English and Chinese. The first to
research this matter in a systematic way was Professor Li Guofang ???,
from [Baishui ?? County, Shaanxi Province, purportedly] the hometown
of Cang Jie ?? [the mythical creator of Chinese characters], who has
studied this for more than 20 years and discovered that the
ideographic and implied meanings of English words, and even their pronunciation, are the same or close to Chinese. For example:

Yellow: It is the color of fallen leaves [yèluò ??] in autumn, in
English the pronunciation is almost “yeluo (-lu)”.

Shop: In English the pronunciation is basically that of Chinese
shangpù ?? [‘shop’].

Heart, head: These are people’s most core [héxin ??] organs, so the
English pronunciation directly takes its meaning from Chinese: the
core’s [hé de ??]… just slightly changing the sound."


PS: The question marks are put in place of Chinese characters by the
Forte Agent.



That is Mainland China since 3500 years. There is only one sun on
heaven, and this is China.

I hope that the impact on science, anime and culture isn't as mean, as
it looks, how it could be, after i.e. Hollywood has fallen on its
knees before the Emperor of the China, the representative of the Sun
on earth.

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In message <i1755g5ifoe0hhn8p6h7d8kano8ho0olv3@4ax.com>
Arne Luft <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:22:55 -0600, David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 2021-03-15 4:03 p.m., Arne Luft wrote:

I suspect something similar is likely to happen to history, as we
know it, in the near future. Mainland Chinese scholars claim that
Western history is a mere invention to harm China. 500 years ago
there was no western history, they say and the pyramids etc. were
built by the colonial powers 200 years ago to create the
appearance of a civilization that was thousands of years old.
Everything has it's real origin in China, and the westerners want
to hide this, they claim.

<snort> While there is one loony professor in China who claims
that I seriously doubt it's the general academic consensus there.

This is not an isolated incident. There are a lot of such people and
ideas in Mainland China. And they are highly educated people.

Example: The claim that English is actually a Chinese dialect.

https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=44389

"September 13, 2019 ....
Reporter: Professor Zhai, does English
really come from ancient China? This really sounds unimaginable,
because these are two completely different languages.

Zhai Guiyun: Yes, English truly originated in ancient China. Many
people teaching English in China have discovered that you can learn
English using the so called ?memorizing-through-association? method. Actually, it?s because so-called ?ideographic? and ?implied? meanings
[of words] are very close in English and Chinese. The first to
research this matter in a systematic way was Professor Li Guofang ???,
from [Baishui ?? County, Shaanxi Province, purportedly] the hometown
of Cang Jie ?? [the mythical creator of Chinese characters], who has
studied this for more than 20 years and discovered that the
ideographic and implied meanings of English words, and even their pronunciation, are the same or close to Chinese. For example:

Yellow: It is the color of fallen leaves [yèluò ??] in autumn, in
English the pronunciation is almost ?yeluo (-lu)?.

Shop: In English the pronunciation is basically that of Chinese
shangpù ?? [?shop?].

Heart, head: These are people?s most core [héxin ??] organs, so the
English pronunciation directly takes its meaning from Chinese: the
core?s [hé de ??]? just slightly changing the sound."

So they are saying that Chinese is an Indo-European language?

Or that Chinese pre-dated PIE?

Either of those suggestions will come as something of a surprise to
every academic historical linguist, probably followed by ROTFL.

Rather more likely is that PIE and Proto-Sino-Tibetan borrowed some
words from each other. But that doesn't chime so well with fanatical
Chinese nationalism.

--
Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
can be adequately explained by stupidity.

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On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:38:12 GMT, Nick Roberts
<tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:

In message <i1755g5ifoe0hhn8p6h7d8kano8ho0olv3@4ax.com>
Arne Luft <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 11:22:55 -0600, David Johnston
<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 2021-03-15 4:03 p.m., Arne Luft wrote:

I suspect something similar is likely to happen to history, as we
know it, in the near future. Mainland Chinese scholars claim that
Western history is a mere invention to harm China. 500 years ago
there was no western history, they say and the pyramids etc. were
built by the colonial powers 200 years ago to create the
appearance of a civilization that was thousands of years old.
Everything has it's real origin in China, and the westerners want
to hide this, they claim.

<snort> While there is one loony professor in China who claims
that I seriously doubt it's the general academic consensus there.

This is not an isolated incident. There are a lot of such people and
ideas in Mainland China. And they are highly educated people.

Example: The claim that English is actually a Chinese dialect.

https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=44389

"September 13, 2019 ....
Reporter: Professor Zhai, does English
really come from ancient China? This really sounds unimaginable,
because these are two completely different languages.

Zhai Guiyun: Yes, English truly originated in ancient China. Many
people teaching English in China have discovered that you can learn
English using the so called ?memorizing-through-association? method.
Actually, it?s because so-called ?ideographic? and ?implied? meanings
[of words] are very close in English and Chinese. The first to
research this matter in a systematic way was Professor Li Guofang ???,
from [Baishui ?? County, Shaanxi Province, purportedly] the hometown
of Cang Jie ?? [the mythical creator of Chinese characters], who has
studied this for more than 20 years and discovered that the
ideographic and implied meanings of English words, and even their
pronunciation, are the same or close to Chinese. For example:

Yellow: It is the color of fallen leaves [yèluò ??] in autumn, in
English the pronunciation is almost ?yeluo (-lu)?.

Shop: In English the pronunciation is basically that of Chinese
shangpù ?? [?shop?].

Heart, head: These are people?s most core [héxin ??] organs, so the
English pronunciation directly takes its meaning from Chinese: the
core?s [hé de ??]? just slightly changing the sound."

So they are saying that Chinese is an Indo-European language?

No, it's the other way around.

Or that Chinese pre-dated PIE?

That is, what they really think.

Either of those suggestions will come as something of a surprise to
every academic historical linguist, probably followed by ROTFL.

Rather more likely is that PIE and Proto-Sino-Tibetan borrowed some
words from each other. But that doesn't chime so well with fanatical
Chinese nationalism.

They follow what is for them the irrefutable - but not proven by any
means - premise: First China was there and then everyone else wrote
off from them.

The fact is, it was different. The Chinese learned a lot (i.e. how to
make bronze and how to ride a horse) from the Indo-Aryans which lived
around 2000 BC at the Tarim Basin. There are mummies of this men and
women. The Chinese classified these blue-eyed blonde mummies as
western devils when they were found in 1960 or so and that's why they disappeared in sheds and not in a museum in China.

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