In My Humble Opinion,
It is just amazing how much privacy most citizens have just given up. Voluntarily, without court orders. Probably fair hunk out of ignorance.
We, or our relatives, have given up DNA samples so that matches
can be made to cell material found at crime scenes.
From our cell phones we can most often be tracked. These records
can go back months, or be used in real time.
Our autos can also often be tracked. And after an accident,
that data can be pulled up about our speeding etc.
Many of us have watches, that can also be tracked, and they are also recording even our heartbeat.
(Wife wonders were you exercising, or having sex??)
On 25/02/2023 17:57, a425couple wrote:
In My Humble Opinion,
It is just amazing how much privacy most citizens have just given up. Voluntarily, without court orders. Probably fair hunk out of ignorance.
We, or our relatives, have given up DNA samples so that matches
can be made to cell material found at crime scenes.
From our cell phones we can most often be tracked. These records
can go back months, or be used in real time.
Our autos can also often be tracked. And after an accident,
that data can be pulled up about our speeding etc.
Many of us have watches, that can also be tracked, and they are also recording even our heartbeat.Well the police have been able to track autos for decades wherever there
(Wife wonders were you exercising, or having sex??)
is a toll road for example and there are more of those in the USA and
the UK. As for auto records they have been held by countries or states
since the 1930's. Punchcards, sorting and counting machines were the
core of IBM's business long before electronic computers came along.
In truly repressive regimes the courts just fabricate any evidence they
need anyway. When it comes to speeding etc driving records used to be
held at city level and they knew how many driving offences you had, it
was just done using file cards, card boxes and rolodex machines.
As for DNA I am all in favour, cant speak for the USA but here in the UK
DNA testing and matching has not only cleared lots oi accused people but caught some really evil people.
The classic case in the UK is Colin Pitcfork who raped and killed 2
young girls in 1983. A mentally retarded local man was arrested and
accused of the crime but cleared by DNA testing. The researcher who
invented the system commented that he was convinced he save an innocent
man from jail as the individual arrested was very suggestible and
admitted to the offence just to end the interrogation. This was the
first ever use of DNA to catch a criminal.
Pitchfork is still where he belongs - in jail.
I dont own or wear a watch of any description but I do have a
smartphone. Plenty of people either have no cellphone or just a simple burner phone. As for monitoring my heart I am pleased to say that at the
age of 71 my heart is fine and I dont need medication for high blood pressure.
On 25/02/2023 17:57, a425couple wrote:
In My Humble Opinion,
It is just amazing how much privacy most citizens have just given up. Voluntarily, without court orders. Probably fair hunk out of ignorance.
We, or our relatives, have given up DNA samples so that matches
can be made to cell material found at crime scenes.
From our cell phones we can most often be tracked. These records
can go back months, or be used in real time.
Our autos can also often be tracked. And after an accident,
that data can be pulled up about our speeding etc.
Many of us have watches, that can also be tracked, and they are also recording even our heartbeat.Well the police have been able to track autos for decades wherever there
(Wife wonders were you exercising, or having sex??)
is a toll road for example and there are more of those in the USA and
the UK. As for auto records they have been held by countries or states
since the 1930's. Punchcards, sorting and counting machines were the
core of IBM's business long before electronic computers came along.
In truly repressive regimes the courts just fabricate any evidence they
need anyway. When it comes to speeding etc driving records used to be
held at city level and they knew how many driving offences you had, it
was just done using file cards, card boxes and rolodex machines.
As for DNA I am all in favour, cant speak for the USA but here in the UK
DNA testing and matching has not only cleared lots oi accused people but caught some really evil people.
The classic case in the UK is Colin Pitcfork who raped and killed 2
young girls in 1983. A mentally retarded local man was arrested and
accused of the crime but cleared by DNA testing. The researcher who
invented the system commented that he was convinced he save an innocent
man from jail as the individual arrested was very suggestible and
admitted to the offence just to end the interrogation. This was the
first ever use of DNA to catch a criminal.
Pitchfork is still where he belongs - in jail.
I dont own or wear a watch of any description but I do have a
smartphone. Plenty of people either have no cellphone or just a simple
burner phone. As for monitoring my heart I am pleased to say that at the
age of 71 my heart is fine and I dont need medication for high blood pressure.
"Dean Markley" wrote in message news:d327cfea-9748-413d...@googlegroups.com...
On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 6:05:41 AM UTC-5, Keith Willshaw wrote:
On 25/02/2023 17:57, a425couple wrote:
In My Humble Opinion,
It is just amazing how much privacy most citizens have just given up. Voluntarily, without court orders. Probably fair hunk out of ignorance.
We, or our relatives, have given up DNA samples so that matches
can be made to cell material found at crime scenes.
From our cell phones we can most often be tracked. These records
can go back months, or be used in real time.
Our autos can also often be tracked. And after an accident,
that data can be pulled up about our speeding etc.
Many of us have watches, that can also be tracked, and they are also recording even our heartbeat.Well the police have been able to track autos for decades wherever there is a toll road for example and there are more of those in the USA and
(Wife wonders were you exercising, or having sex??)
the UK. As for auto records they have been held by countries or states since the 1930's. Punchcards, sorting and counting machines were the
core of IBM's business long before electronic computers came along.
In truly repressive regimes the courts just fabricate any evidence they need anyway. When it comes to speeding etc driving records used to be
held at city level and they knew how many driving offences you had, it
was just done using file cards, card boxes and rolodex machines.
As for DNA I am all in favour, cant speak for the USA but here in the UK DNA testing and matching has not only cleared lots oi accused people but caught some really evil people.
The classic case in the UK is Colin Pitcfork who raped and killed 2
young girls in 1983. A mentally retarded local man was arrested and accused of the crime but cleared by DNA testing. The researcher who invented the system commented that he was convinced he save an innocent man from jail as the individual arrested was very suggestible and
admitted to the offence just to end the interrogation. This was the
first ever use of DNA to catch a criminal.
Pitchfork is still where he belongs - in jail.
I dont own or wear a watch of any description but I do have a
smartphone. Plenty of people either have no cellphone or just a simple burner phone. As for monitoring my heart I am pleased to say that at the age of 71 my heart is fine and I dont need medication for high blood pressure.
Keith, that is an excellent reply. Particularly with DNA, I just don't see how that is violating your privacy, even voluntarily. I am always
astonished at the "siege mentality" some folks seem to exhibit when ever technology gives us a new way to do things.
Dean
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Perhaps you think you have nothing to hide or to lose if an extreme faction gains power. Trotsky's Communist supporters felt safe until it was suddenly too late, as did Hitler's SA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives
[The purge] "also provided a legal grounding for the Nazis, as the German courts and cabinet quickly swept aside centuries of legal prohibition against extrajudicial killings to demonstrate their loyalty to the regime."
https://www.history.com/topics/european-history/great-purge
"By the mid-1930s, Stalin believed anyone with ties to the Bolsheviks or Lenin’s government was a threat to his leadership and needed to go."
Nothing is off limits in the realm of technical espionage. I can't say more. -xyz
In My Humble Opinion,
It is just amazing how much privacy most citizens have just given up. Voluntarily, without court orders. Probably fair hunk out of ignorance.
We, or our relatives, have given up DNA samples so that matches
can be made to cell material found at crime scenes.
From our cell phones we can most often be tracked. These records
can go back months, or be used in real time.
Our autos can also often be tracked. And after an accident,
that data can be pulled up about our speeding etc.
Many of us have watches, that can also be tracked, and they are also recording even our heartbeat.
(Wife wonders were you exercising, or having sex??)
Perhaps you think you have nothing to hide or to lose if an extreme
faction gains power. Trotsky's Communist supporters felt safe until it
was suddenly too late, as did Hitler's SA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives
[The purge] "also provided a legal grounding for the Nazis, as the
German courts and cabinet quickly swept aside centuries of legal
prohibition against extrajudicial killings to demonstrate their loyalty
to the regime."
https://www.history.com/topics/european-history/great-purge
"By the mid-1930s, Stalin believed anyone with ties to the Bolsheviks or Lenin’s government was a threat to his leadership and needed to go."
Nothing is off limits in the realm of technical espionage. I can't say
more.
-xyz
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