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  • Re: Fuselage Deliberately Cut into?

    From Sarah Anderson@21:1/5 to John Sinclair on Wed May 17 10:00:07 2023
    On 5/17/23 9:48 AM, John Sinclair wrote:
    AIG is selling an LS-1 that has its fuselage deliberately cut into at the fin!
    Anybody got the straight skinny on this ?
    JJ

    Is it this one? google "AIG N17EW"

    "The vertical had some internal delamination as a result of the ground loop incident. As the damage was subtle, and to prevent a
    further incident, the tail boom was cut to insure that the aircraft cannot fly again without the issues being repaired."

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  • From John Sinclair@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 17 07:48:08 2023
    AIG is selling an LS-1 that has its fuselage deliberately cut into at the fin! Anybody got the straight skinny on this ?
    JJ

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  • From John Sinclair@21:1/5 to Sarah Anderson on Wed May 17 10:14:27 2023
    On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, Sarah Anderson wrote:
    On 5/17/23 9:48 AM, John Sinclair wrote:
    AIG is selling an LS-1 that has its fuselage deliberately cut into at the fin!
    Anybody got the straight skinny on this ?
    JJ
    Is it this one? google "AIG N17EW"

    "The vertical had some internal delamination as a result of the ground loop incident. As the damage was subtle, and to prevent a
    further incident, the tail boom was cut to insure that the aircraft cannot fly again without the issues being repaired."



    OK, thanks………… I once had a customer bring me a fuselage that he’d cut in half so that he could get it in his truck!
    He said, “ you guys can fix anything”, well yeah , but you just added about 8K to the repair bill !
    JJ

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  • From Middleline Airfield@21:1/5 to John Sinclair on Wed May 17 15:55:04 2023
    On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:48:10 AM UTC-4, John Sinclair wrote:
    AIG is selling an LS-1 that has its fuselage deliberately cut into at the fin!
    Anybody got the straight skinny on this ?
    JJ

    I have about 500 flight hours in this sailplane that started when I was 14 years old. Flew my first contest and real enjoyed flying this ship. This is the ship that Tim Mara (former Wings and Wheels owner) bailed out of.

    I can't understand why you wouldn't cut a hole in the boom vs. cutting control rods and creating a big project???

    Real strange!

    Tim Hanke
    Saratoga Springs, NY

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  • From andy l@21:1/5 to Middleline Airfield on Thu May 18 04:45:56 2023
    On Wednesday, 17 May 2023 at 23:55:08 UTC+1, Middleline Airfield wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:48:10 AM UTC-4, John Sinclair wrote:
    AIG is selling an LS-1 that has its fuselage deliberately cut into at the fin!
    Anybody got the straight skinny on this ?
    JJ
    I have about 500 flight hours in this sailplane that started when I was 14 years old. Flew my first contest and real enjoyed flying this ship. This is the ship that Tim Mara (former Wings and Wheels owner) bailed out of.

    I can't understand why you wouldn't cut a hole in the boom vs. cutting control rods and creating a big project???

    Real strange!

    Tim Hanke
    Saratoga Springs, NY

    Strange indeed

    If the damage is inside the fin, it would make much more sense to cut a hole to look at it and access for repair

    At one contest, a glider was in the workshop after a couple of groundloops on takeoff, and the fin seemed a bit more floppy sideways than it should be.

    They seemed to be a bit puzzled, and I had a look. The rib in the base of the fin had a cutout for the elevator drive push rod to come up through, and there was cracking and delamination extending out from this hole. I then held a vacuum cleaner hose for
    a while as the man from the factory sanded it.

    That's the sort of place to look, not where this one has been cut.

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  • From andy l@21:1/5 to andy l on Thu May 18 04:50:19 2023
    On Thursday, 18 May 2023 at 12:45:58 UTC+1, andy l wrote:
    On Wednesday, 17 May 2023 at 23:55:08 UTC+1, Middleline Airfield wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:48:10 AM UTC-4, John Sinclair wrote:
    AIG is selling an LS-1 that has its fuselage deliberately cut into at the fin!
    Anybody got the straight skinny on this ?
    JJ
    I have about 500 flight hours in this sailplane that started when I was 14 years old. Flew my first contest and real enjoyed flying this ship. This is the ship that Tim Mara (former Wings and Wheels owner) bailed out of.

    I can't understand why you wouldn't cut a hole in the boom vs. cutting control rods and creating a big project???

    Real strange!

    Tim Hanke
    Saratoga Springs, NY
    Strange indeed

    If the damage is inside the fin, it would make much more sense to cut a hole to look at it and access for repair

    At one contest, a glider was in the workshop after a couple of groundloops on takeoff, and the fin seemed a bit more floppy sideways than it should be.

    They seemed to be a bit puzzled, and I had a look. The rib in the base of the fin had a cutout for the elevator drive push rod to come up through, and there was cracking and delamination extending out from this hole. I then held a vacuum cleaner hose
    for a while as the man from the factory sanded it.

    That's the sort of place to look, not where this one has been cut.

    ... though some gliders may also have a donut shaped frame in the rear of the tail boom, just behind this cut, but even then do it through a hole

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