Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx area.
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx area.
On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 23:37:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx area.
The potential loss of 501(c)(3) status will have no effect on Facebook
(Meta) operations in foreign countries including UK. None of the
countries (except US) where Facebook operates would care about its
Facebook's US tax status. In other words, you're lying again.
Repeating the same lies several times isn't doing what's left of your reputation much good.
I can tolerate liars to some degree. Those can be found everywhere.
However, bad liars, who can't even contrive a believable story, are a
very different story. Tom, you're intolerable.
I seem to recall demonstrating how you could check if Facebook is
registered as a charitable organization. The short version is that
they are not currently a registered charitable organization and are
therefore unable to receive tax deductible charitable contributions.
See below:
(Aug 12, 2024)
501(c)(3) are for non-profit organizations. Facebook is not a
non-profit and seems to be making a profit: <https://www.statista.com/statistics/277229/facebooks-annual-revenue-and-net-income/>
"Tax Exempt Organization Search"
<https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/>
I found a listing for:
Facebook Community Fund
EIN: 83-0801066
<https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/830801066_202206_990PF_2023102621787057.pdf>
Facebook Community Fund was dissolved June 23, 2022. See bottom of
the
990-PF filing. The most recent activities were $2.4 million in
undistributed income from 2019 to 2021.
Nothing resembling a charity under their new name, Meta Platforms Inc.
Hmm...
"Facebook Community Fund is under common control with Meta Platforms,
Inc. PAC. However, Facebooks Community Fund does not have any
transactions with, or a historic and continuing relationship with Meta Platforms, Inc. PAC."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_Platforms>
--
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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx area.
wow...
no, tom, any letter which you allegedly wrote to Judicial Watch was more
than likely ignored by them.
Your account with facebook was never closed. You were trying to access
it with the wrong credentials. It's that simple.
And facebook is _not_ a 501c3 non-profit. It's always been a for-profit company, now publicly traded.
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx area.
HAHAHAHAHA! :-)
--
- Frank Krygowski
On Sat Aug 17 20:52:32 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx area.
HAHAHAHAHA! :-)
--
- Frank Krygowski
I see you've finally realized what a joke you are. Tell us what you did as a "olant engineer" and why they fired you.
On Sun Aug 18 09:17:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx area.
wow...
no, tom, any letter which you allegedly wrote to Judicial Watch was more
than likely ignored by them.
Your account with facebook was never closed. You were trying to access
it with the wrong credentials. It's that simple.
And facebook is _not_ a 501c3 non-profit. It's always been a for-profit
company, now publicly traded.
Like your poretense of being an electronics engineer (living a lifetime as a QC paperwork wonk), you really should tell us all you know about Facebook which is exactly nothing as your skills as a programmer.
On Sat Aug 17 20:17:31 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:Loathsome looking for ANY source of income to try and offset the billions of deficit spending they could be pinioned to a post.
On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 23:37:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx area.
The potential loss of 501(c)(3) status will have no effect on Facebook
(Meta) operations in foreign countries including UK. None of the
countries (except US) where Facebook operates would care about its
Facebook's US tax status. In other words, you're lying again.
Repeating the same lies several times isn't doing what's left of your
reputation much good.
I can tolerate liars to some degree. Those can be found everywhere.
However, bad liars, who can't even contrive a believable story, are a
very different story. Tom, you're intolerable.
I seem to recall demonstrating how you could check if Facebook is
registered as a charitable organization. The short version is that
they are not currently a registered charitable organization and are
therefore unable to receive tax deductible charitable contributions.
See below:
(Aug 12, 2024)
501(c)(3) are for non-profit organizations. Facebook is not a
non-profit and seems to be making a profit:
<https://www.statista.com/statistics/277229/facebooks-annual-revenue-and-net-income/>
"Tax Exempt Organization Search"
<https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/>
I found a listing for:
Facebook Community Fund
EIN: 83-0801066
<https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/830801066_202206_990PF_2023102621787057.pdf>
Facebook Community Fund was dissolved June 23, 2022. See bottom of
the
990-PF filing. The most recent activities were $2.4 million in
undistributed income from 2019 to 2021.
Nothing resembling a charity under their new name, Meta Platforms Inc.
Hmm...
"Facebook Community Fund is under common control with Meta Platforms,
Inc. PAC. However, Facebooks Community Fund does not have any
transactions with, or a historic and continuing relationship with Meta
Platforms, Inc. PAC."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_Platforms>
As usual you work overtime to show what an incompetent fool you are. Facebook is nothing more than social media in other countries but their INCOME is taxed here in the US and with loss of their tax exempt status, and the federal government and Gavin
Only some worthless person on welfare could possibly not understand tax implications.
On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:45:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>area.
wrote:
On Sat Aug 17 20:17:31 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 23:37:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx
Loathsome looking for ANY source of income to try and offset the billions of deficit spending they could be pinioned to a post.
The potential loss of 501(c)(3) status will have no effect on Facebook
(Meta) operations in foreign countries including UK. None of the
countries (except US) where Facebook operates would care about its
Facebook's US tax status. In other words, you're lying again.
Repeating the same lies several times isn't doing what's left of your
reputation much good.
I can tolerate liars to some degree. Those can be found everywhere.
However, bad liars, who can't even contrive a believable story, are a
very different story. Tom, you're intolerable.
I seem to recall demonstrating how you could check if Facebook is
registered as a charitable organization. The short version is that
they are not currently a registered charitable organization and are
therefore unable to receive tax deductible charitable contributions.
See below:
(Aug 12, 2024)
501(c)(3) are for non-profit organizations. Facebook is not a
non-profit and seems to be making a profit:
<https://www.statista.com/statistics/277229/facebooks-annual-revenue-and-net-income/>
"Tax Exempt Organization Search"
<https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/>
I found a listing for:
Facebook Community Fund
EIN: 83-0801066
<https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/830801066_202206_990PF_2023102621787057.pdf>
Facebook Community Fund was dissolved June 23, 2022. See bottom of
the
990-PF filing. The most recent activities were $2.4 million in
undistributed income from 2019 to 2021.
Nothing resembling a charity under their new name, Meta Platforms Inc.
Hmm...
"Facebook Community Fund is under common control with Meta Platforms,
Inc. PAC. However, Facebooks Community Fund does not have any
transactions with, or a historic and continuing relationship with Meta
Platforms, Inc. PAC."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_Platforms>
As usual you work overtime to show what an incompetent fool you are. Facebook is nothing more than social media in other countries but their INCOME is taxed here in the US and with loss of their tax exempt status, and the federal government and Gavin
You didn't seem to have read or are able to understand what I wrote. 501(c)(3) registered organizations are those recognized by the IRS as charities who may receive tax deductible contributions from
individuals or companies. Facebook is not a charity.
"Do Facebook and Google pay taxes to foreign governments for the
profit they make in their countries?" <https://www.quora.com/Do-Facebook-and-Google-pay-taxes-to-foreign-governments-for-the-profit-they-make-in-their-countries>
"I can answer for Europe. Google & Facebook pay taxes in Ireland. A
lot of EU countries are trying to contest the matter in court and
charge them overdue taxes in their own countries but I don?t have
final insights on whether they succeeded."
Here's a short list of countries where Facebook pays collects and/or
pays taxes: <https://developers.facebook.com/docs/payments/reference/taxes/other_regions_countries/>
Note that Facebook/Meta users also pay EU VAT taxes: <https://www.facebook.com/business/help/155641834501332> <https://www.facebook.com/business/help/133076073434794>
I'm not sure what happens when you sell something on Facebook
Marketplace with your UK based Facebook account:
"If you're not purchasing Meta ads for a business purpose but rather a private non-business purpose; we apply VAT to the cost of your Meta ad purchase at the applicable local tax rate."
In other words, you pay your UK taxes to Meta, which then pays the UK
taxing authority. Notice that the US is not involved.
Only some worthless person on welfare could possibly not understand tax implications.
Only a compulsive liar would post wrong information without doing a
simple online fact check. This one took about 5 min to demonstrate
the problem.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On Sun Aug 18 13:47:31 2024 zen cycle wrote:area.
On 8/18/2024 10:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Aug 17 20:52:32 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx
HAHAHAHAHA! :-)
--
- Frank Krygowski
I see you've finally realized what a joke you are. Tell us what you did as a "olant engineer" and why they fired you.
I think we might need you to explain what you think an "olant engineers"
responsibilities are first.
If you were actually an engineer you would have sufficient IQ to recognize a typo. So I guess you've been lying about your position. So you must be an assembler.
On Sun Aug 18 12:51:35 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:Loathsome looking for ANY source of income to try and offset the billions of deficit spending they could be pinioned to a post.
On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:45:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
As usual you work overtime to show what an incompetent fool you are. Facebook is nothing more than social media in other countries but their INCOME is taxed here in the US and with loss of their tax exempt status, and the federal government and Gavin
You didn't seem to have read or are able to understand what I wrote.
501(c)(3) registered organizations are those recognized by the IRS as
charities who may receive tax deductible contributions from
individuals or companies. Facebook is not a charity.
"Do Facebook and Google pay taxes to foreign governments for the
profit they make in their countries?"
<https://www.quora.com/Do-Facebook-and-Google-pay-taxes-to-foreign-governments-for-the-profit-they-make-in-their-countries>
"I can answer for Europe. Google & Facebook pay taxes in Ireland. A
lot of EU countries are trying to contest the matter in court and
charge them overdue taxes in their own countries but I don?t have
final insights on whether they succeeded."
Here's a short list of countries where Facebook pays collects and/or
pays taxes:
<https://developers.facebook.com/docs/payments/reference/taxes/other_regions_countries/>
Note that Facebook/Meta users also pay EU VAT taxes:
<https://www.facebook.com/business/help/155641834501332>
<https://www.facebook.com/business/help/133076073434794>
I'm not sure what happens when you sell something on Facebook
Marketplace with your UK based Facebook account:
"If you're not purchasing Meta ads for a business purpose but rather a
private non-business purpose; we apply VAT to the cost of your Meta ad
purchase at the applicable local tax rate."
In other words, you pay your UK taxes to Meta, which then pays the UK
taxing authority. Notice that the US is not involved.
Only some worthless person on welfare could possibly not understand tax implications.
Only a compulsive liar would post wrong information without doing a
simple online fact check. This one took about 5 min to demonstrate
the problem.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
You know, the reason you're on welfare is that you don't know one thing about money.
It isn't even worth talking to you because you're just too stupid and you will say ANYTHING.
You don't know anything about taxes because you.ve never made enough to pay any,
So shut up about things you know nothiner about.
On Sun Aug 18 12:51:35 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:area.
On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:45:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sat Aug 17 20:17:31 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 23:37:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx
Loathsome looking for ANY source of income to try and offset the billions of deficit spending they could be pinioned to a post.
The potential loss of 501(c)(3) status will have no effect on Facebook
(Meta) operations in foreign countries including UK. None of the
countries (except US) where Facebook operates would care about its
Facebook's US tax status. In other words, you're lying again.
Repeating the same lies several times isn't doing what's left of your
reputation much good.
I can tolerate liars to some degree. Those can be found everywhere.
However, bad liars, who can't even contrive a believable story, are a
very different story. Tom, you're intolerable.
I seem to recall demonstrating how you could check if Facebook is
registered as a charitable organization. The short version is that
they are not currently a registered charitable organization and are
therefore unable to receive tax deductible charitable contributions.
See below:
(Aug 12, 2024)
501(c)(3) are for non-profit organizations. Facebook is not a
non-profit and seems to be making a profit:
<https://www.statista.com/statistics/277229/facebooks-annual-revenue-and-net-income/>
"Tax Exempt Organization Search"
<https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/>
I found a listing for:
Facebook Community Fund
EIN: 83-0801066
<https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/830801066_202206_990PF_2023102621787057.pdf>
Facebook Community Fund was dissolved June 23, 2022. See bottom of
the
990-PF filing. The most recent activities were $2.4 million in
undistributed income from 2019 to 2021.
Nothing resembling a charity under their new name, Meta Platforms Inc.
Hmm...
"Facebook Community Fund is under common control with Meta Platforms,
Inc. PAC. However, Facebooks Community Fund does not have any
transactions with, or a historic and continuing relationship with Meta
Platforms, Inc. PAC."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_Platforms>
As usual you work overtime to show what an incompetent fool you are. Facebook is nothing more than social media in other countries but their INCOME is taxed here in the US and with loss of their tax exempt status, and the federal government and Gavin
You didn't seem to have read or are able to understand what I wrote.
501(c)(3) registered organizations are those recognized by the IRS as
charities who may receive tax deductible contributions from
individuals or companies. Facebook is not a charity.
"Do Facebook and Google pay taxes to foreign governments for the
profit they make in their countries?"
<https://www.quora.com/Do-Facebook-and-Google-pay-taxes-to-foreign-governments-for-the-profit-they-make-in-their-countries>
"I can answer for Europe. Google & Facebook pay taxes in Ireland. A
lot of EU countries are trying to contest the matter in court and
charge them overdue taxes in their own countries but I don?t have
final insights on whether they succeeded."
Here's a short list of countries where Facebook pays collects and/or
pays taxes:
<https://developers.facebook.com/docs/payments/reference/taxes/other_regions_countries/>
Note that Facebook/Meta users also pay EU VAT taxes:
<https://www.facebook.com/business/help/155641834501332>
<https://www.facebook.com/business/help/133076073434794>
I'm not sure what happens when you sell something on Facebook
Marketplace with your UK based Facebook account:
"If you're not purchasing Meta ads for a business purpose but rather a
private non-business purpose; we apply VAT to the cost of your Meta ad
purchase at the applicable local tax rate."
In other words, you pay your UK taxes to Meta, which then pays the UK
taxing authority. Notice that the US is not involved.
Only some worthless person on welfare could possibly not understand tax implications.
Only a compulsive liar would post wrong information without doing a
simple online fact check. This one took about 5 min to demonstrate
the problem.
You know,
the reason you're on welfare is that you don't know one thing
about money.
It isn't even worth talking to you because you're just too stupid
and you will say ANYTHING.
You don't know anything about taxes because you.ve never made
enough to pay any,
So shut up about things you know nothiner about.
On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 22:35:48 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>area.
wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 12:51:35 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:45:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sat Aug 17 20:17:31 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 23:37:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx
Gavin Loathsome looking for ANY source of income to try and offset the billions of deficit spending they could be pinioned to a post.
The potential loss of 501(c)(3) status will have no effect on Facebook >> >> (Meta) operations in foreign countries including UK. None of the
countries (except US) where Facebook operates would care about its
Facebook's US tax status. In other words, you're lying again.
Repeating the same lies several times isn't doing what's left of your >> >> reputation much good.
I can tolerate liars to some degree. Those can be found everywhere.
However, bad liars, who can't even contrive a believable story, are a >> >> very different story. Tom, you're intolerable.
I seem to recall demonstrating how you could check if Facebook is
registered as a charitable organization. The short version is that
they are not currently a registered charitable organization and are
therefore unable to receive tax deductible charitable contributions.
See below:
(Aug 12, 2024)
501(c)(3) are for non-profit organizations. Facebook is not a
non-profit and seems to be making a profit:
<https://www.statista.com/statistics/277229/facebooks-annual-revenue-and-net-income/>
"Tax Exempt Organization Search"
<https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/>
I found a listing for:
Facebook Community Fund
EIN: 83-0801066
<https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/830801066_202206_990PF_2023102621787057.pdf>
Facebook Community Fund was dissolved June 23, 2022. See bottom of
the
990-PF filing. The most recent activities were $2.4 million in
undistributed income from 2019 to 2021.
Nothing resembling a charity under their new name, Meta Platforms Inc. >> >> Hmm...
"Facebook Community Fund is under common control with Meta Platforms, >> >> Inc. PAC. However, Facebooks Community Fund does not have any
transactions with, or a historic and continuing relationship with Meta >> >> Platforms, Inc. PAC."
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_Platforms>
As usual you work overtime to show what an incompetent fool you are. Facebook is nothing more than social media in other countries but their INCOME is taxed here in the US and with loss of their tax exempt status, and the federal government and
You didn't seem to have read or are able to understand what I wrote.
501(c)(3) registered organizations are those recognized by the IRS as
charities who may receive tax deductible contributions from
individuals or companies. Facebook is not a charity.
"Do Facebook and Google pay taxes to foreign governments for the
profit they make in their countries?"
<https://www.quora.com/Do-Facebook-and-Google-pay-taxes-to-foreign-governments-for-the-profit-they-make-in-their-countries>
"I can answer for Europe. Google & Facebook pay taxes in Ireland. A
lot of EU countries are trying to contest the matter in court and
charge them overdue taxes in their own countries but I don?t have
final insights on whether they succeeded."
Here's a short list of countries where Facebook pays collects and/or
pays taxes:
<https://developers.facebook.com/docs/payments/reference/taxes/other_regions_countries/>
Note that Facebook/Meta users also pay EU VAT taxes:
<https://www.facebook.com/business/help/155641834501332>
<https://www.facebook.com/business/help/133076073434794>
I'm not sure what happens when you sell something on Facebook
Marketplace with your UK based Facebook account:
"If you're not purchasing Meta ads for a business purpose but rather a
private non-business purpose; we apply VAT to the cost of your Meta ad
purchase at the applicable local tax rate."
In other words, you pay your UK taxes to Meta, which then pays the UK
taxing authority. Notice that the US is not involved.
Only some worthless person on welfare could possibly not understand tax implications.
Only a compulsive liar would post wrong information without doing a
simple online fact check. This one took about 5 min to demonstrate
the problem.
You know,
Yes, I do know everything.
the reason you're on welfare is that you don't know one thing
about money.
What does what I know about money have to do with whether
Facebook/Meta is a 501(c)(3) charity? For that matter, what does
anything I own, do, ride, believe or look like have to do with whether Facebook/Meta is a 501(c)(3) charity? All I did was cite a recognized
source of reliable information (i.e. the IRS) about the charitable
deduction status of Facebook. I could be wealthy beyond your limited imagination or totally impoverished and it would not have any effect
on US tax law of Facebooks 501(c)(3) status.
It isn't even worth talking to you because you're just too stupid
and you will say ANYTHING.
Feel free to call me stupid. Nobody believes you anyway and my
alleged stupidity has no effect on your mistakes.
You don't know anything about taxes because you.ve never made
enough to pay any,
Whether I know anything about taxes has no effect on you being wrong
about Facebook's 501(c)(3) status.
Incidentally, if someone has made substantial amounts of money, paying
taxes can be a sign that either they or their tax accountants don't
know what their doing. Paying very little in taxes is the mark of
someone who does know how the US tax system functions.
So shut up about things you know nothiner about.
I'll resist the temptation to turn that into a parody. I don't
believe that acting like a fool is the proper way to ridicule a fool.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Jeff, you're stupid and will always be stupid. 501(C)(3) is not only used by CHARITIES, but also for Limited Liability Businesses. You and Flunky feel the need to argue that I don't know what I'm talking ahout because I actually do and you're nuts.
On Mon Aug 19 05:37:45 2024 zen cycle wrote:Gavin Loathsome looking for ANY source of income to try and offset the billions of deficit spending they could be pinioned to a post.
On 8/18/2024 6:35 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 12:51:35 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:45:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
As usual you work overtime to show what an incompetent fool you are. Facebook is nothing more than social media in other countries but their INCOME is taxed here in the US and with loss of their tax exempt status, and the federal government and
You didn't seem to have read or are able to understand what I wrote.
501(c)(3) registered organizations are those recognized by the IRS as
charities who may receive tax deductible contributions from
individuals or companies. Facebook is not a charity.
"Do Facebook and Google pay taxes to foreign governments for the
profit they make in their countries?"
<https://www.quora.com/Do-Facebook-and-Google-pay-taxes-to-foreign-governments-for-the-profit-they-make-in-their-countries>
"I can answer for Europe. Google & Facebook pay taxes in Ireland. A
lot of EU countries are trying to contest the matter in court and
charge them overdue taxes in their own countries but I don?t have
final insights on whether they succeeded."
Here's a short list of countries where Facebook pays collects and/or
pays taxes:
<https://developers.facebook.com/docs/payments/reference/taxes/other_regions_countries/>
Note that Facebook/Meta users also pay EU VAT taxes:
<https://www.facebook.com/business/help/155641834501332>
<https://www.facebook.com/business/help/133076073434794>
I'm not sure what happens when you sell something on Facebook
Marketplace with your UK based Facebook account:
"If you're not purchasing Meta ads for a business purpose but rather a >>>> private non-business purpose; we apply VAT to the cost of your Meta ad >>>> purchase at the applicable local tax rate."
In other words, you pay your UK taxes to Meta, which then pays the UK
taxing authority. Notice that the US is not involved.
Only some worthless person on welfare could possibly not understand tax implications.
Only a compulsive liar would post wrong information without doing a
simple online fact check. This one took about 5 min to demonstrate
the problem.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
You know, the reason you're on welfare is that you don't know one thing about money.
tell us about you "bullet proof" stock funds again?
It isn't even worth talking to you because you're just too stupid and you will say ANYTHING.
including a post where you don't address any of the issues at hand?
You don't know anything about taxes because you.ve never made enough to pay any,
at least he didn't remarry a woman that stole all his money
So shut up about things you know nothiner about.
take your own advice
My funds are tied to inflation now so Sliden Biden can inflate all he likes and nothing hurts me.
I am not going to tell you shit about what funds these are.
I would just as soon watch you go down the sewer with the rest of your kind.
On Sun Aug 18 13:52:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:area.
On 8/18/2024 10:48 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 09:17:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx
wow...
no, tom, any letter which you allegedly wrote to Judicial Watch was more >>>> than likely ignored by them.
Your account with facebook was never closed. You were trying to access >>>> it with the wrong credentials. It's that simple.
And facebook is _not_ a 501c3 non-profit. It's always been a for-profit >>>> company, now publicly traded.
Like your poretense of being an electronics engineer (living a lifetime as a QC paperwork wonk), you really should tell us all you know about Facebook which is exactly nothing as your skills as a programmer.
I very clearly know vastly more about facebook than you do, since you
couldn't figure out how to access an active account and are under some
delusion they are a non-profit.
You show over abnd over that you know nothing. Stop pretending to.Facebook did NOT reopen my account.
They allowed me to open a new one. And this no doubt in response to a letter reminding them of their responsibilities under the law.
I don't HAVE to remember passwords since my system automatically does that, You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
On 8/19/2024 4:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:52:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:48 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 09:17:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect
on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but
allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss
of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is
figure out how to post to the salesx area.
wow...
no, tom, any letter which you allegedly wrote to
Judicial Watch was more
than likely ignored by them.
Your account with facebook was never closed. You were
trying to access
it with the wrong credentials. It's that simple.
And facebook is _not_ a 501c3 non-profit. It's always
been a for-profit
company, now publicly traded.
Like your poretense of being an electronics engineer
(living a lifetime as a QC paperwork wonk), you really
should tell us all you know about Facebook which is
exactly nothing as your skills as a programmer.
I very clearly know vastly more about facebook than you
do, since you
couldn't figure out how to access an active account and
are under some
delusion they are a non-profit.
You show over abnd over that you know nothing. Stop
pretending to.Facebook did NOT reopen my account.
Of course they didn't reopen it. They never closed it to
begin with.
They allowed me to open a new one. And this no doubt in
response to a letter reminding them of their
responsibilities under the law.
You go ahead and make believe they caved to the pressure of
a sternly worded letter from you (lol).
I don't HAVE to remember passwords since my system
automatically does that, You knowing nothing about
programming are probably mystified.
It wasn't your password, dumbass, it was your email address.
You were trying to log in using a different one than you
created the account with, hence 'there is no account
associated with that email address'.
And they aren't a non-profit company. If you think they are
post a link to a reference showing their 501c3 status.
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I
can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else
do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020): <https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury.
It was an intentional decision that I had to
reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley.
At the time (1973 ?)
the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the
years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile,
the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future, programming might be performed by AI's.
On 8/19/2024 7:56 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I
can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else
do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020):
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/>
While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for
knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix
various Windoze software related problems.
You made a slight error there, it should read "fix _your_
various Windoze software related problems."
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury.
Same here
It was an intentional decision that I had to
reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley.
Nothing reluctant about it for me. I'm reminded of that every time I get >dragged into a SW design review (required since I'm responsible for >Functional Safety compliance).
At the time (1973 ?)
the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't
immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and
unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better
choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the
years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile,
the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future,
programming might be performed by AI's.
The future is now >https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/29/mistral-releases-its-first-generative-ai-model-for-code/
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I
can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else
do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020): <https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury. It was an intentional decision that I had to reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley. At the time (1973 ?)
the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the
years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile,
the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future, programming might be performed by AI's.
A great deal of programming is done today by AIs (Actual Indians).
I won't hold my breath waiting for artificial intelligence to become
reliable or cost effective.
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I
can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else
do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020):
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/>
While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for
knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix
various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury. It was an intentional decision that I had to
reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley. At the time (1973 ?)
the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't
immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and
unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better
choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the
years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile,
the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future,
programming might be performed by AI's.
A great deal of programming is done today by AIs (Actual Indians).
I
won't hold my breath waiting for artificial intelligence to become
reliable or cost effective.
Yes and the AI's are rapidly becoming better at programming. I've
seen web automation code produced by a 16 year old, which seems quite >passable. Sure, there were bugs and anomalies, but with the amazing
speed at which an AI can produce iterations of a program, trial and
error debugging suddenly becomes efficient. I watched him fixing his >Selenium and Python code, while adding a few features, in a few
minutes of interaction with whatever AI cloud he was using. When
done, he switched to a different AI to check the code, and tweaked it
so that both AI's considered the results acceptable. This was all
during a 15 minute demonstration in a neighbors garage using a rather >marginal laptop. I was impressed. Never mind overseas outsourcing.
The real competition will be from 16 year olds with AI cloud accounts.
"The Scariest Movies About Artificial Intelligence: ‘Metropolis,’
‘Moon,’ ‘WarGames,’ and More" ><https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/scariest-artificial-intelligence-horror-movies-robots/metropolis-1927-6/>
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:53:22 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 8/19/2024 7:56 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I
can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else
do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020):
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> >>> While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for
knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix
various Windoze software related problems.
You made a slight error there, it should read "fix _your_
various Windoze software related problems."
Windoze might not be my problem in the near future. Microsoft is
doing its best to alienate its customers through various invasive
features. Since I'm now retired, I no longer need to support
Microsoft products. I'm slooowly moving my personal computing to
Linux (Mint 22) and have begun using privacy oriented products on
Windoze. While my use of Microsoft products will probably never be eliminated (games, banking and taxes), I will be prepared should
Microsoft continue on its present path (spying, advertising, privacy
issues, bugs, etc) towards some inevitable disaster.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury.
Same here
It was an intentional decision that I had to
reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley.
Nothing reluctant about it for me. I'm reminded of that every time I get
dragged into a SW design review (required since I'm responsible for
Functional Safety compliance).
With about 20 years of practice, I became very good at avoiding
involvement in programming. Claiming that I didn't know how to
program did not work because management insisted that I attend classes
and "at least try programming". I would then mention that I've tried
to do programming, but that I'm really awful at programming, mostly
because I don't have the patience and am easily distracted (which is
true).
At the time (1973 ?)
the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't
immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and
unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better
choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the
years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile,
the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future,
programming might be performed by AI's.
The future is now
https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/29/mistral-releases-its-first-generative-ai-model-for-code/
Yes and the AI's are rapidly becoming better at programming. I've
seen web automation code produced by a 16 year old, which seems quite passable. Sure, there were bugs and anomalies, but with the amazing
speed at which an AI can produce iterations of a program, trial and
error debugging suddenly becomes efficient. I watched him fixing his Selenium and Python code, while adding a few features, in a few
minutes of interaction with whatever AI cloud he was using. When
done, he switched to a different AI to check the code, and tweaked it
so that both AI's considered the results acceptable. This was all
during a 15 minute demonstration in a neighbors garage using a rather marginal laptop. I was impressed. Never mind overseas outsourcing.
The real competition will be from 16 year olds with AI cloud accounts.
"The Scariest Movies About Artificial Intelligence: ‘Metropolis,’ ‘Moon,’ ‘WarGames,’ and More" <https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/scariest-artificial-intelligence-horror-movies-robots/metropolis-1927-6/>
On 8/20/2024 12:27 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:53:22 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I will admit, if I had the time I Linux is something I've thought I
might enjoy tinkering with. Maybe when I retire. I have way too much
going on in my life right now to take on another hobby.
We had an intern a short while ago who was tasked with writing code for
a somewhat simple of test rig we were using for development. It required
a rather large look-up table with several input parameters. He finished
it in about ten minutes, and it worked. I said "wow, that was quick". He >replied, "I used chat GPT".
Be that as it may, this kid _was_ (_is_ actually) quite bright - >enthusiastic, inquisitive, and resourceful. I really couldn't fault him
for using a tool to create the large table (hundreds of elements) rather
than take the better part of a day to create the whole thing by hand. It >would be one thing if he didn't understand what the AI generated, but he
was insightful enough to point out a tweak to the algorithm in the code
of the product under development would give better performance after
looking at the output data from the test jig. The lead software engineer
on the project agreed with him.
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I
can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else
do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020): <https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury. It was an intentional decision that I had to reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley. At the time (1973 ?)
the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the
years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile,
the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future, programming might be performed by AI's.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On 8/20/2024 2:01 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I
can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else
do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020):
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> >> While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for
knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix
various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury. It was an intentional decision that I had to
reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley. At the time (1973 ?)
the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't
immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and
unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better
choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the
years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile,
the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future,
programming might be performed by AI's.
A great deal of programming is done today by AIs (Actual Indians).
HAH!!!
That's cute. I won't be repeating it to my Indian boss though.
I
won't hold my breath waiting for artificial intelligence to become
reliable or cost effective.
Feel free to breathe, it's here, now.
--
Add xx to reply
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I
can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else
do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020): <https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury. It was an intentional decision that I had to reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley. At the time (1973 ?)
the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile,
the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future, programming might be performed by AI's.
A great deal of programming is done today by AIs (Actual Indians). I
won't hold my breath waiting for artificial intelligence to become
reliable or cost effective.
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 05:41:40 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8/20/2024 12:27 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:53:22 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I will admit, if I had the time I Linux is something I've thought I
might enjoy tinkering with. Maybe when I retire. I have way too much
going on in my life right now to take on another hobby.
I've been involved in debates that revolve around "What will it take
to make Linux a mainstream operating system"? The Linux fanatics will propose major changes to the licensing, UI, standards, etc. When I
suggest that all it will take is for Microsoft and Apple to make a few
big mistakes, I'm usually greeted with silent contemplation.
On 8/20/2024 12:27 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Windoze might not be my problem in the near future.
Microsoft is doing its best to alienate its customers through
various invasive features. Since I'm now retired, I no longer
need to support Microsoft products. I'm slooowly moving my
personal computing to Linux (Mint 22) and have begun using
privacy oriented products on Windoze. While my use of
Microsoft products will probably never be eliminated (games,
banking and taxes), I will be prepared should Microsoft
continue on its present path (spying, advertising, privacy
issues, bugs, etc) towards some inevitable disaster.
I will admit, if I had the time I Linux is something I've
thought I might enjoy tinkering with. Maybe when I retire. I
have way too much going on in my life right now to take on
another hobby.
On Mon Aug 19 05:32:37 2024 zen cycle wrote:area.
On 8/18/2024 6:15 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:47:31 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Aug 17 20:52:32 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx
HAHAHAHAHA! :-)
--
- Frank Krygowski
I see you've finally realized what a joke you are. Tell us what you did as a "olant engineer" and why they fired you.
I think we might need you to explain what you think an "olant engineers" >>>> responsibilities are first.
If you were actually an engineer you would have sufficient IQ to recognize a typo. So I guess you've been lying about your position. So you must be an assembler.
Gee, I never though if might be a typo <eyeroll>
If you had sufficient IQ you'd figure out how to turn on the spell
checker. It certainly won't stop you from embarrassing yourself, but it
might help give some cover over your drunk posting.
How's that libel lawsuit coming, you drunk -assed bitch?
Assemblers are like water they boil at the drop of a hat.
On Mon Aug 19 15:08:30 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:Gavin Loathsome looking for ANY source of income to try and offset the billions of deficit spending they could be pinioned to a post.
On 8/19/2024 2:24 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 05:37:45 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 6:35 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 12:51:35 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 14:45:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
As usual you work overtime to show what an incompetent fool you are. Facebook is nothing more than social media in other countries but their INCOME is taxed here in the US and with loss of their tax exempt status, and the federal government and
You didn't seem to have read or are able to understand what I wrote. >>>>>> 501(c)(3) registered organizations are those recognized by the IRS as >>>>>> charities who may receive tax deductible contributions from
individuals or companies. Facebook is not a charity.
"Do Facebook and Google pay taxes to foreign governments for the
profit they make in their countries?"
<https://www.quora.com/Do-Facebook-and-Google-pay-taxes-to-foreign-governments-for-the-profit-they-make-in-their-countries>
"I can answer for Europe. Google & Facebook pay taxes in Ireland. A >>>>>> lot of EU countries are trying to contest the matter in court and
charge them overdue taxes in their own countries but I don?t have
final insights on whether they succeeded."
Here's a short list of countries where Facebook pays collects and/or >>>>>> pays taxes:
<https://developers.facebook.com/docs/payments/reference/taxes/other_regions_countries/>
Note that Facebook/Meta users also pay EU VAT taxes:
<https://www.facebook.com/business/help/155641834501332>
<https://www.facebook.com/business/help/133076073434794>
I'm not sure what happens when you sell something on Facebook
Marketplace with your UK based Facebook account:
"If you're not purchasing Meta ads for a business purpose but rather a >>>>>> private non-business purpose; we apply VAT to the cost of your Meta ad >>>>>> purchase at the applicable local tax rate."
In other words, you pay your UK taxes to Meta, which then pays the UK >>>>>> taxing authority. Notice that the US is not involved.
Only some worthless person on welfare could possibly not understand tax implications.
Only a compulsive liar would post wrong information without doing a >>>>>> simple online fact check. This one took about 5 min to demonstrate >>>>>> the problem.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
You know, the reason you're on welfare is that you don't know one thing about money.
tell us about you "bullet proof" stock funds again?
It isn't even worth talking to you because you're just too stupid and you will say ANYTHING.
including a post where you don't address any of the issues at hand?
You don't know anything about taxes because you.ve never made enough to pay any,
at least he didn't remarry a woman that stole all his money
So shut up about things you know nothiner about.
take your own advice
My funds are tied to inflation now so Sliden Biden can inflate all he likes and nothing hurts me.
Oh, you mean this inflation?
https://apnews.com/article/inflation-prices-interest-rates-economy-federal-reserve-f8de2672173407d3a126cc13493fed85
I am not going to tell you shit about what funds these are.
Because they exist in the same plane as your PWM cable testing technique
- IOW, it's bullshit
I would just as soon watch you go down the sewer with the rest of your kind.
There won't be any room there for my kind, your kind are filling it up
(fast).
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I just needed $7000 and simply made a call. It had no effect on my account since that was less than the interest I have last month.
I can go out to a restaurant every night if I want to.
Tell me about that 401k you have again?
On Mon Aug 19 17:10:14 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:area.
On 8/19/2024 4:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:52:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:48 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 09:17:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx
wow...
no, tom, any letter which you allegedly wrote to Judicial Watch was more >>>>>> than likely ignored by them.
Your account with facebook was never closed. You were trying to access >>>>>> it with the wrong credentials. It's that simple.
And facebook is _not_ a 501c3 non-profit. It's always been a for-profit >>>>>> company, now publicly traded.
Like your poretense of being an electronics engineer (living a lifetime as a QC paperwork wonk), you really should tell us all you know about Facebook which is exactly nothing as your skills as a programmer.
I very clearly know vastly more about facebook than you do, since you
couldn't figure out how to access an active account and are under some >>>> delusion they are a non-profit.
You show over abnd over that you know nothing. Stop pretending to.Facebook did NOT reopen my account.
Of course they didn't reopen it. They never closed it to begin with.
They allowed me to open a new one. And this no doubt in response to a letter reminding them of their responsibilities under the law.
You go ahead and make believe they caved to the pressure of a sternly
worded letter from you (lol).
I don't HAVE to remember passwords since my system automatically does that, You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
It wasn't your password, dumbass, it was your email address. You were
trying to log in using a different one than you created the account
with, hence 'there is no account associated with that email address'.
And they aren't a non-profit company. If you think they are post a link
to a reference showing their 501c3 status.
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So besides telling me that Aabbot isn't leaving their overly taxed sites in Alameda, now you're talling me that my automatic login is wrong.
No wonder you need a head of assemblers to tell you what to do.
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zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8/20/2024 12:27 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Windoze might not be my problem in the near future.
Microsoft is doing its best to alienate its customers through
various invasive features. Since I'm now retired, I no longer
need to support Microsoft products. I'm slooowly moving my
personal computing to Linux (Mint 22) and have begun using
privacy oriented products on Windoze. While my use of
Microsoft products will probably never be eliminated (games,
banking and taxes), I will be prepared should Microsoft
continue on its present path (spying, advertising, privacy
issues, bugs, etc) towards some inevitable disaster.
I will admit, if I had the time I Linux is something I've
thought I might enjoy tinkering with. Maybe when I retire. I
have way too much going on in my life right now to take on
another hobby.
If you do get around to it and want to understand the system
administration side of things, I highly recommend this book...
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/linux-administration-handbook_evi-nemeth_garth-snyder/327468/item/4217556/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=high_vol_backlist_standard_shopping_customer_aquistion&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=
I used this (and earlier versions) to set up and manage a Linux
server in my basement that hosted my own domain and several
services (news, web, mail, etc.). The book doesn't get into the
desktop environment, but gives you a great sense of what's
happening under the hood. It's an entertaining read too. :)
On Tue Aug 20 16:41:39 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/20/2024 2:01 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I >>>> can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else >>>> do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020):
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> >>>> While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for >>>> knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix >>>> various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury. It was an intentional decision that I had to >>>> reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley. At the time (1973 ?) >>>> the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't
immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and
unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better >>>> choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the >>>> years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile, >>>> the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future,
programming might be performed by AI's.
A great deal of programming is done today by AIs (Actual Indians).
HAH!!!
That's cute. I won't be repeating it to my Indian boss though.
I
won't hold my breath waiting for artificial intelligence to become
reliable or cost effective.
Feel free to breathe, it's here, now.
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The one that is the head of assembly or the one that is the production manager??
On Mon Aug 19 16:56:36 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I
can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else
do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020):
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/>
While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for
knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix
various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury. It was an intentional decision that I had to
reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley. At the time (1973 ?)
the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't
immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and
unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better
choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the
years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile,
the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future,
programming might be performed by AI's.
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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
You may take it from me that I am delighted that you were able to make a living for yourself for all of the years in between being fired as an engineer and until the onset of your cancer. I do not complain about people in need being on welfare orMediCal.
I do not like your wanting to be the espert about everything and being proven wrong on every occassoon.
I do not like you waving a degree around as if it meant something when you could never use it to gain an engineering job. I suggest that you stay in your own lane.
I was one of the first to program AI into products and believe me
- most of the BS you hear about it is just that. Elon started programming automatic driving into his Tesla's early whereas my Mercury Milan has all of the necessary sensors except for the forward seeking lane detectors
The chief engingineer called me to see if I wanted a job.
I suggested that for legal purposes they not call it a "self driving" feature and he hung up on me.
But because they put that name on it, they have lost every single case concerning people letting thecar drive itself and causing accidents.
The funniest thing is that all of the push for AI disapopeared when they started using it to write media articles with it. I guess when it is your job it is taking, it isn't this marvelous new invention.
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 05:41:40 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8/20/2024 12:27 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:53:22 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote:
I will admit, if I had the time I Linux is something I've thought I
might enjoy tinkering with. Maybe when I retire. I have way too much
going on in my life right now to take on another hobby.
I've been involved in debates that revolve around "What will it take
to make Linux a mainstream operating system"? The Linux fanatics will
propose major changes to the licensing, UI, standards, etc. When I
suggest that all it will take is for Microsoft and Apple to make a few
big mistakes, I'm usually greeted with silent contemplation.
I’m out of the loop rather but kinda feel that the Year of the Linux
desktop is unlikely to happen, and the desktop itself self looks to be
fairly stagnant technology wise.
Linux or at least the kernel has managed to get into all sorts of places
and hands.
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:35:17 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
"Was Thomas Kunich one of the early adopters of artificial
intelligence?" <https://search.brave.com/search?q=Was+Thomas+Kunich+one+of+the+early+adopters+of+artificial+intelligence%3F>
"There is no evidence to suggest that Thomas Kunich was an early
adopter of artificial intelligence."
Tom, the AI has spoken and you are not among the patriarchs.
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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On Wed Aug 21 17:32:08 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 1:35 PM, cyclintom wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products and believe me
Nope, I won't believe you. Even if you ever did write code for medical
instruments (which I highly doubt) it wasn't anything that could ever be
considered to AI, especially given that you haven't worked in 20 years.
- most of the BS you hear about it is just that. Elon started programming automatic driving into his Tesla's early whereas my Mercury Milan has all of the necessary sensors except for the forward seeking lane detectors
Two completely unrelated issues
The chief engingineer called me to see if I wanted a job.
No, a head hunter called you because he saw your resume online.
I suggested that for legal purposes they not call it a "self driving" feature and he hung up on me.
The head hunter hung on you because he realized you were an asshole that
lied on your resume.
But because they put that name on it, they have lost every single case concerning people letting thecar drive itself and causing accidents.
Oh, you mean these lawsuits?:
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/auto-accident/tesla-autopilot-lawsuit/ >>
"In a verdict returned in April 2023, a jury found that Tesla was not
responsible for a crash in 2019."
"On September 30, 2023, United States District Judge Haywood S. Gilliam,
Jr. ruled that the proposed class action lawsuit could not proceed."
The funniest thing is that all of the push for AI disapopeared when they started using it to write media articles with it. I guess when it is your job it is taking, it isn't this marvelous new invention.
Yeah, AI has fallen out of favor <sure>
https://www.authorityhacker.com/ai-statistics/
"This hand-picked shortlist of the most compelling AI statistics
includes key metrics on adoption, personal & business usage, impact on
jobs, and sentiment towards AI.
- 35% of businesses have adopted AI.
- 77% of devices in use feature some form of AI.
9 out of 10 organizations support AI for a competitive advantage.
- AI will contribute $15.7 trillion to the global economy by 2030.
- By 2025, AI might eliminate 85 million jobs but create 97 million new
ones, resulting in a net gain of 12 million jobs.
- 85.1% of AI users use the technology for article writing and content
creation.
- 81.6% of digital marketers think content writers? jobs are at risk
because of AI.
- 50% of consumers are now optimistic about AI.
- 33% of consumers think they are using AI platforms (actual usage is 77%). >> - 43% of businesses are concerned about technology dependence.
Gawd yer an idiot.
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OK Genius - tell me how AI works. Then tell me exactly how much consumer's opinions are worth when the only thing that they know about AI is that Elon Musk supports it. YOU haven't the faitest idea of what AI is and so you can say that 77% of devicesin use use some form of it. You're much too stupid to know that means voice recognition. You're like listening to a broken doorbell.
On Wed Aug 21 14:53:57 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:35:17 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
"Was Thomas Kunich one of the early adopters of artificial
intelligence?"
<https://search.brave.com/search?q=Was+Thomas+Kunich+one+of+the+early+adopters+of+artificial+intelligence%3F>
"There is no evidence to suggest that Thomas Kunich was an early
adopter of artificial intelligence."
Tom, the AI has spoken and you are not among the patriarchs.
Remember when you looked for patents in my name?
This is even dumber than that.
And in your case that's saying a whole lot.
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:36:39 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:28:57 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 14:53:57 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:35:17 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
"Was Thomas Kunich one of the early adopters of artificial
intelligence?"
<https://search.brave.com/search?q=Was+Thomas+Kunich+one+of+the+early+adopters+of+artificial+intelligence%3F>
"There is no evidence to suggest that Thomas Kunich was an early
adopter of artificial intelligence."
Tom, the AI has spoken and you are not among the patriarchs.
Remember when you looked for patents in my name?
Yes, I do remember. You never specified which company, patented your >>unspecified ideas that they used in what unspecified products. Perhaps
I'm also being too vague. Which patent numbers have your name
attached?
(Aug 31, 2023) >><https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ> >>"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
Actually I believe that the system works this way. The patent is made
in the name of who owns it. If the inventor works for a company then >obviously the company owns his output and thus the patent. But in all
the cases that I've seen the individual(s) who actually did the work
is given credit.
see https://patents.justia.com/assignee/sturm-ruger-company-inc
Magazine for firearm
Patent number: 10921075
Type: Grant
Filed: July 9, 2019
Date of Patent: February 16, 2021
Assignee: STURM, RUGER & COMPANY, INC.
Inventors: Nathan Brown, Matthew S. Willson, Dean M. Cousino, Maksim >Sakalouski
or
UNIVERSAL MAGAZINE LATCH MECHANISM FOR FIREARM
Publication number: 20140325886
Type: Application
Filed: May 5, 2014
Publication date: November 6, 2014
Applicant: Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc.
Inventor: Jonathan Philip MATHER
So, it seems likely that any invention made by Tom would include his
name. If he did the work on his own time then logically the assignee
would be his name and of done on "company time" the company's.
--Since you were unwilling or uninterested in producing some patents
with your name attached, I had to resort to proving that there was no >>patent. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, but it works well
enough to demonstrate that you don't have any patented inventions.
And in your case that's saying a whole lot.
Thanks. I do tend to say "a whole lot", which is better than you
saying little or nothing of value.
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:36:39 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:28:57 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 14:53:57 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:35:17 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
"Was Thomas Kunich one of the early adopters of artificial
intelligence?"
<https://search.brave.com/search?q=Was+Thomas+Kunich+one+of+the+early+adopters+of+artificial+intelligence%3F>
"There is no evidence to suggest that Thomas Kunich was an early
adopter of artificial intelligence."
Tom, the AI has spoken and you are not among the patriarchs.
Remember when you looked for patents in my name?
Yes, I do remember. You never specified which company, patented your
unspecified ideas that they used in what unspecified products. Perhaps
I'm also being too vague. Which patent numbers have your name
attached?
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ> >> "The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
Actually I believe that the system works this way. The patent is made
in the name of who owns it. If the inventor works for a company then obviously the company owns his output and thus the patent. But in all
the cases that I've seen the individual(s) who actually did the work
is given credit.
see https://patents.justia.com/assignee/sturm-ruger-company-inc
Magazine for firearm
Patent number: 10921075
Type: Grant
Filed: July 9, 2019
Date of Patent: February 16, 2021
Assignee: STURM, RUGER & COMPANY, INC.
Inventors: Nathan Brown, Matthew S. Willson, Dean M. Cousino, Maksim Sakalouski
or
UNIVERSAL MAGAZINE LATCH MECHANISM FOR FIREARM
Publication number: 20140325886
Type: Application
Filed: May 5, 2014
Publication date: November 6, 2014
Applicant: Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc.
Inventor: Jonathan Philip MATHER
So, it seems likely that any invention made by Tom would include his
name. If he did the work on his own time then logically the assignee
would be his name and of done on "company time" the company's.
Since you were unwilling or uninterested in producing some patents
with your name attached, I had to resort to proving that there was no
patent. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, but it works well
enough to demonstrate that you don't have any patented inventions.
And in your case that's saying a whole lot.
Thanks. I do tend to say "a whole lot", which is better than you
saying little or nothing of value.
On Wed Aug 21 16:43:50 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:area.
On 8/21/2024 12:27 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 05:32:37 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 6:15 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:47:31 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Aug 17 20:52:32 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx
HAHAHAHAHA! :-)
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- Frank Krygowski
I see you've finally realized what a joke you are. Tell us what you did as a "olant engineer" and why they fired you.
I think we might need you to explain what you think an "olant engineers" >>>>>> responsibilities are first.
If you were actually an engineer you would have sufficient IQ to recognize a typo. So I guess you've been lying about your position. So you must be an assembler.
Gee, I never though if might be a typo <eyeroll>
If you had sufficient IQ you'd figure out how to turn on the spell
checker. It certainly won't stop you from embarrassing yourself, but it >>>> might help give some cover over your drunk posting.
How's that libel lawsuit coming, you drunk -assed bitch?
Assemblers are like water they boil at the drop of a hat.
You wouldn't be qualified to sweep floors in any company Ive ever worked
at, let alone be an assembler
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I guess that's why you've nebver worked at what would be called a successful company in California.
How much did you say that 401k is worth? $2,500? Why you're just rolling in it.
On Wed Aug 21 17:02:42 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 1:38 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Tue Aug 20 16:41:39 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/20/2024 2:01 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I >>>>>> can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else >>>>>> do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a >>>>>> computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020):
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> >>>>>> While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for >>>>>> knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login, >>>>>> being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix >>>>>> various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the >>>>>> result of a head injury. It was an intentional decision that I had to >>>>>> reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley. At the time (1973 ?) >>>>>> the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't >>>>>> immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and
unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction >>>>>> of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better >>>>>> choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the >>>>>> years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile, >>>>>> the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future, >>>>>> programming might be performed by AI's.
A great deal of programming is done today by AIs (Actual Indians).
HAH!!!
That's cute. I won't be repeating it to my Indian boss though.
I
won't hold my breath waiting for artificial intelligence to become
reliable or cost effective.
Feel free to breathe, it's here, now.
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The one that is the head of assembly or the one that is the production manager??
Neither, VP of Engineering.
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And you expect people to believe that you work for a successful company as well.
On Wed Aug 21 16:59:22 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:area.
On 8/21/2024 1:43 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 17:10:14 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/19/2024 4:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:52:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:48 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 09:17:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the salesx
wow...
no, tom, any letter which you allegedly wrote to Judicial Watch was more
than likely ignored by them.
Your account with facebook was never closed. You were trying to access >>>>>>>> it with the wrong credentials. It's that simple.
And facebook is _not_ a 501c3 non-profit. It's always been a for-profit
company, now publicly traded.
Like your poretense of being an electronics engineer (living a lifetime as a QC paperwork wonk), you really should tell us all you know about Facebook which is exactly nothing as your skills as a programmer.
I very clearly know vastly more about facebook than you do, since you >>>>>> couldn't figure out how to access an active account and are under some >>>>>> delusion they are a non-profit.
You show over abnd over that you know nothing. Stop pretending to.Facebook did NOT reopen my account.
Of course they didn't reopen it. They never closed it to begin with.
They allowed me to open a new one. And this no doubt in response to a letter reminding them of their responsibilities under the law.
You go ahead and make believe they caved to the pressure of a sternly
worded letter from you (lol).
I don't HAVE to remember passwords since my system automatically does that, You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
It wasn't your password, dumbass, it was your email address. You were
trying to log in using a different one than you created the account
with, hence 'there is no account associated with that email address'.
And they aren't a non-profit company. If you think they are post a link >>>> to a reference showing their 501c3 status.
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So besides telling me that Aabbot isn't leaving their overly taxed sites in Alameda, now you're talling me that my automatic login is wrong.
You had an automatic login for facebook? That's pretty stupid. If that's
how you manager your personal security it's no wonder that your email
keeps getting hacked.
No wonder you need a head of assemblers to tell you what to do.
"head of assemblers"? lol...Now I know you've never done more tan push a
broom.
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I knows that you have no idea about personal security
since you assemblers usually on do what you're told or get fired like you were from your last job.
I suppose that's why you value staying at a company forever.
On Wed Aug 21 17:32:08 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 1:35 PM, cyclintom wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products and believe me
Nope, I won't believe you. Even if you ever did write code for medical
instruments (which I highly doubt) it wasn't anything that could ever be
considered to AI, especially given that you haven't worked in 20 years.
- most of the BS you hear about it is just that. Elon started programming automatic driving into his Tesla's early whereas my Mercury Milan has all of the necessary sensors except for the forward seeking lane detectors
Two completely unrelated issues
The chief engingineer called me to see if I wanted a job.
No, a head hunter called you because he saw your resume online.
I suggested that for legal purposes they not call it a "self driving" feature and he hung up on me.
The head hunter hung on you because he realized you were an asshole that
lied on your resume.
But because they put that name on it, they have lost every single case concerning people letting thecar drive itself and causing accidents.
Oh, you mean these lawsuits?:
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/auto-accident/tesla-autopilot-lawsuit/ >>
"In a verdict returned in April 2023, a jury found that Tesla was not
responsible for a crash in 2019."
"On September 30, 2023, United States District Judge Haywood S. Gilliam,
Jr. ruled that the proposed class action lawsuit could not proceed."
The funniest thing is that all of the push for AI disapopeared when they started using it to write media articles with it. I guess when it is your job it is taking, it isn't this marvelous new invention.
Yeah, AI has fallen out of favor <sure>
https://www.authorityhacker.com/ai-statistics/
"This hand-picked shortlist of the most compelling AI statistics
includes key metrics on adoption, personal & business usage, impact on
jobs, and sentiment towards AI.
- 35% of businesses have adopted AI.
- 77% of devices in use feature some form of AI.
9 out of 10 organizations support AI for a competitive advantage.
- AI will contribute $15.7 trillion to the global economy by 2030.
- By 2025, AI might eliminate 85 million jobs but create 97 million new
ones, resulting in a net gain of 12 million jobs.
- 85.1% of AI users use the technology for article writing and content
creation.
- 81.6% of digital marketers think content writers? jobs are at risk
because of AI.
- 50% of consumers are now optimistic about AI.
- 33% of consumers think they are using AI platforms (actual usage is 77%). >> - 43% of businesses are concerned about technology dependence.
Gawd yer an idiot.
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OK Genius - tell me how AI works.
Then tell me exactly how much consumer's opinions are worth when the only thing that they know about AI is that Elon Musk supports it.
YOU haven't the faitest idea of what AI is and so you can say that 77% of devices in use use some form of it.
You're much too stupid to know that means voice recognition.
You're like listening to a broken doorbell.
On Wed Aug 21 14:53:57 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:35:17 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
"Was Thomas Kunich one of the early adopters of artificial
intelligence?"
<https://search.brave.com/search?q=Was+Thomas+Kunich+one+of+the+early+adopters+of+artificial+intelligence%3F>
"There is no evidence to suggest that Thomas Kunich was an early
adopter of artificial intelligence."
Tom, the AI has spoken and you are not among the patriarchs.
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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Remember when you looked for patents in my name? This is even dumber than that. And in your case that's saying a whole lot.
On 8/20/2024 2:01 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>A great deal of programming is done today by AIs (Actual Indians).
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I
can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else
do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020):
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> >>> While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for
knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix
various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury. It was an intentional decision that I had to
reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley. At the time (1973 ?)
the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't
immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and
unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better
choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the
years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile,
the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future,
programming might be performed by AI's.
HAH!!!
That's cute. I won't be repeating it to my Indian boss though.
I
won't hold my breath waiting for artificial intelligence to become
reliable or cost effective.
Feel free to breathe, it's here, now.
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 14:01:43 -0400, Radey Shouman
<shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
A great deal of programming is done today by AIs (Actual Indians).
In about 1999, management was experimenting with outsourcing a product
design to someone they found on monster.com in India. I was not
directly involved in this product. The manager would call India about
once per week to obtain status updates. One day, he mentioned that he
had called and received a "no progress" report because of a holiday.
As the project continued, such "no progress" reports continued to be
quite frequent. As you might suspect, the project was late and poorly designed. Hint:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_India>
I could also expound on some more past outsourcing horror stories but
it's less work to just post a link so I don't need to violate an NDA
in order to tell the story: <https://www.google.com/search?q=outsourcing+horror+stories>
I won't hold my breath waiting for artificial intelligence to become >>reliable or cost effective.
I believe that AI will eventually become an improvement over
outsourcing.
Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> writes:
On 8/20/2024 2:01 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>A great deal of programming is done today by AIs (Actual Indians).
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I >>>> can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else >>>> do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020):
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> >>>> While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for >>>> knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix >>>> various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury. It was an intentional decision that I had to >>>> reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley. At the time (1973 ?) >>>> the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't
immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and
unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better >>>> choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the >>>> years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile, >>>> the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future,
programming might be performed by AI's.
HAH!!!
That's cute. I won't be repeating it to my Indian boss though.
I doubt mine would take offense, although I haven't tried it.
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:04:04 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 05:41:40 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 8/20/2024 12:27 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:53:22 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
I will admit, if I had the time I Linux is something I've thought I
might enjoy tinkering with. Maybe when I retire. I have way too much
going on in my life right now to take on another hobby.
I've been involved in debates that revolve around "What will it take
to make Linux a mainstream operating system"? The Linux fanatics will
propose major changes to the licensing, UI, standards, etc. When I
suggest that all it will take is for Microsoft and Apple to make a few
big mistakes, I'm usually greeted with silent contemplation.
IÂ’m out of the loop rather but kinda feel that the Year of the Linux
desktop is unlikely to happen, and the desktop itself self looks to be
fairly stagnant technology wise.
I agree. The year of the Linux desktop is unlikely because the
developers and promoters of Linux distros and desktops are promoting
it to the wrong audience. Mostly, they're trying to turn Linux users
into programmers. When that fails, they try to turn them into
programmers, developers, configuration jugglers, YouTube influencers,
and other hard core users. The real market for Linux desktops is the
total beginner, who knows very little about Linux, doesn't want to
know more about Linux, and secretly hates computers. That describes
about half of my former customers when I was effectively in the "hand holding" business.
A long time friend and Linux user successfully demonstrated this to
me. Upon retirement, he began helping beginning computer users.
Mostly they were seniors with almost no computer experience. The
reasons they needed a computer varied, but there was one common
requirement. The computer and operating system should be very simple
and not get in the way of whatever they wanted to do, which was mostly
email, document processing, a few spreadsheets and printing. Turn it
on, do their thing, print the results, and turn it off. At this time,
he has moved about 100 (my guess) former Windoze users to Ubuntu and LibreOffice. All seem happy with Linux. Only a few have learned
anything about computers and Linux.
At the same time, I was doing something similar using Chromebooks and ChromeOS. Google targeted a similar audience but added schools. I
got similar results as my friend with plenty of users that learned
very little about ChromeOS. However, after a good start, things were
working well and customers were happy. It didn't last because Google alternated between abandoning the project and making so many changes
that the beginning users could never hope to catch up. Several
returned their Chromebooks to me with "moving target" being the common complaint. Adding children to the target audience was another
mistake. Seniors and most adults don't like to be treated like
children. ChromeOS Flex was Google's solution which made nobody very
happy and was abandoned by Google on arrival.
I forgot to mention that I've also had good luck with English as a 2nd language immigrants. Using a simple computer in their native language
is what they want.
Linux or at least the kernel has managed to get into all sorts of places
and hands.
Sure, because it's free and it works.
There is absolutely a difference between tech users and folks into
computers which are outlier and most folks who it’s just a tool, plus
unless it’s installed on the computer, in my experience folks don’t update >there computers unless the computers force them too!
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:14:12 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:
There is absolutely a difference between tech users and folks into
computers which are outlier and most folks who itÂ’s just a tool, plus
unless itÂ’s installed on the computer, in my experience folks donÂ’t update >> there computers unless the computers force them too!
In my experience, computers are configured to update themselves
without involving the user. The only problem with that is when the
user fails to notice that the operating system wants him to reboot the computer after the update. I've had users go for weeks without
rebooting, especially when the computer is setup for standby, sleep, hibernate or some exotic power saving mode. I deal with it by
demanding that my customers reboot their computer before calling me on
the phone for help.
Customers who fail to update isn't much of a problem for me. It's
customers who fail to backup that worry me. I've setup machines to
backup automatically, but they usually find a way to break that.
However, since I've retired, I don't do much of that any more. At
best a few of my long term customers get a reminder email to run a
backup, which they always have an excuse why they can't run the
backup.
AI today is almost entirely
hype, and has been massively oversold. We'll have at least another "AI >winter" before it can be relied upon as much as even a very low grade >employee.
On 8/21/2024 6:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 16:43:50 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 12:27 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 05:32:37 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 6:15 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:47:31 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Aug 17 20:52:32 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on
Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to >>>>>>>>>> opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) >>>>>>>>>> status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the >>>>>>>>>> salesx area.
HAHAHAHAHA! :-)
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I see you've finally realized what a joke you are. Tell us what >>>>>>>> you did as a "olant engineer" and why they fired you.
I think we might need you to explain what you think an "olant
engineers"
responsibilities are first.
If you were actually an engineer you would have sufficient IQ to
recognize a typo. So I guess you've been lying about your
position. So you must be an assembler.
Gee, I never though if might be a typo <eyeroll>
If you had sufficient IQ you'd figure out how to turn on the spell
checker. It certainly won't stop you from embarrassing yourself,
but it
might help give some cover over your drunk posting.
How's that libel lawsuit coming, you drunk -assed bitch?
Assemblers are like water they boil at the drop of a hat.
You wouldn't be qualified to sweep floors in any company Ive ever worked >>> at, let alone be an assembler
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I guess that's why you've nebver worked at what would be called a
successful company in California.
Or, it could be that I've never lived in CA, dumbass.
How much did you say that 401k is worth? $2,500? Why you're just
rolling in it.
Which would be significantly worth more than your investments.
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:30:41 -0400, Radey Shouman
<shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
AI today is almost entirely
hype, and has been massively oversold. We'll have at least another "AI
winter" before it can be relied upon as much as even a very low grade
employee.
Yep.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=emerging+technology++hype+cycle&udm=2> <https://www.gartner.com/en/articles/what-s-new-in-artificial-intelligence-from-the-2023-gartner-hype-cycle>
My view is that the value of any new product or technology is mostly destermine by how much and how well it is abused and misused. Judging
the numerous real and potential horror stories, AI will soon be very successful.
Also, new disruptive technologies like AI, tend to replace employees
at the bottom and enrich owners at the top.
On Wed Aug 21 17:38:32 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:MediCal.
On 8/21/2024 1:02 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 16:56:36 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I >>>> can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else >>>> do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020):
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> >>>> While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for >>>> knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix >>>> various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury. It was an intentional decision that I had to >>>> reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley. At the time (1973 ?) >>>> the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't
immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and
unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better >>>> choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the >>>> years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile, >>>> the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future,
programming might be performed by AI's.
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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
You may take it from me that I am delighted that you were able to make a living for yourself for all of the years in between being fired as an engineer and until the onset of your cancer. I do not complain about people in need being on welfare or
I do not like your wanting to be the espert about everything and being proven wrong on every occassoon.
lol....tommy commenting on jeff being wrong all the time.
I do not like you waving a degree around as if it meant something when you could never use it to gain an engineering job. I suggest that you stay in your own lane.
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Gee, and here I was expecting you to tell us you can program but you find it all too boring.
I call you Flunky for a reason.
On 8/21/2024 6:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:salesx area.
On Wed Aug 21 16:59:22 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 1:43 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 17:10:14 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/19/2024 4:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:52:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:48 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 09:17:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the
wow...
no, tom, any letter which you allegedly wrote to Judicial Watch was more
than likely ignored by them.
Your account with facebook was never closed. You were trying to access
it with the wrong credentials. It's that simple.
And facebook is _not_ a 501c3 non-profit. It's always been a for-profit
company, now publicly traded.
Like your poretense of being an electronics engineer (living a lifetime as a QC paperwork wonk), you really should tell us all you know about Facebook which is exactly nothing as your skills as a programmer.
I very clearly know vastly more about facebook than you do, since you >>>>>> couldn't figure out how to access an active account and are under some >>>>>> delusion they are a non-profit.
You show over abnd over that you know nothing. Stop pretending to.Facebook did NOT reopen my account.
Of course they didn't reopen it. They never closed it to begin with. >>>>
They allowed me to open a new one. And this no doubt in response to a letter reminding them of their responsibilities under the law.
You go ahead and make believe they caved to the pressure of a sternly >>>> worded letter from you (lol).
I don't HAVE to remember passwords since my system automatically does that, You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
It wasn't your password, dumbass, it was your email address. You were >>>> trying to log in using a different one than you created the account
with, hence 'there is no account associated with that email address'. >>>>
And they aren't a non-profit company. If you think they are post a link >>>> to a reference showing their 501c3 status.
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So besides telling me that Aabbot isn't leaving their overly taxed sites in Alameda, now you're talling me that my automatic login is wrong.
You had an automatic login for facebook? That's pretty stupid. If that's >> how you manager your personal security it's no wonder that your email
keeps getting hacked.
No wonder you need a head of assemblers to tell you what to do.
"head of assemblers"? lol...Now I know you've never done more tan push a >> broom.
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I knows that you have no idea about personal security
Said the rube who complains incessantly about his personal data getting hacked
since you assemblers usually on do what you're told or get fired like you were from your last job.
I've never been fired. You would know way more about that than me.
I suppose that's why you value staying at a company forever.
Yup, it's called job security - something you've never had.
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On 8/21/2024 6:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:salesx area.
On Wed Aug 21 16:43:50 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 12:27 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 05:32:37 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 6:15 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:47:31 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Aug 17 20:52:32 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the
HAHAHAHAHA! :-)
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I see you've finally realized what a joke you are. Tell us what you did as a "olant engineer" and why they fired you.
I think we might need you to explain what you think an "olant engineers"
responsibilities are first.
If you were actually an engineer you would have sufficient IQ to recognize a typo. So I guess you've been lying about your position. So you must be an assembler.
Gee, I never though if might be a typo <eyeroll>
If you had sufficient IQ you'd figure out how to turn on the spell
checker. It certainly won't stop you from embarrassing yourself, but it >>>> might help give some cover over your drunk posting.
How's that libel lawsuit coming, you drunk -assed bitch?
Assemblers are like water they boil at the drop of a hat.
You wouldn't be qualified to sweep floors in any company Ive ever worked >> at, let alone be an assembler
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I guess that's why you've nebver worked at what would be called a successful company in California.
Or, it could be that I've never lived in CA, dumbass.
How much did you say that 401k is worth? $2,500? Why you're just rolling in it.
Which would be significantly worth more than your investments.
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On 8/22/2024 9:57 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 6:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 16:43:50 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 12:27 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 05:32:37 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 6:15 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:47:31 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Aug 17 20:52:32 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on >>>>>>>>>> Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to >>>>>>>>>> opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) >>>>>>>>>> status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the >>>>>>>>>> salesx area.
HAHAHAHAHA! :-)
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I see you've finally realized what a joke you are. Tell us what >>>>>>>> you did as a "olant engineer" and why they fired you.
I think we might need you to explain what you think an "olant
engineers"
responsibilities are first.
If you were actually an engineer you would have sufficient IQ to >>>>>> recognize a typo. So I guess you've been lying about your
position. So you must be an assembler.
Gee, I never though if might be a typo <eyeroll>
If you had sufficient IQ you'd figure out how to turn on the spell >>>>> checker. It certainly won't stop you from embarrassing yourself,
but it
might help give some cover over your drunk posting.
How's that libel lawsuit coming, you drunk -assed bitch?
Assemblers are like water they boil at the drop of a hat.
You wouldn't be qualified to sweep floors in any company Ive ever worked >>> at, let alone be an assembler
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I guess that's why you've nebver worked at what would be called a
successful company in California.
Or, it could be that I've never lived in CA, dumbass.
Actually, I _did_ work for a very successful California-based company
for ten years. It was called Hewlett-Packard before it spun off the
Agilent. Perhaps you've heard of it/them. They're still there, both
based in California, right in the area where you claim "all the high
tech is gone and there are no jobs left".
How much did you say that 401k is worth? $2,500? Why you're just
rolling in it.
Which would be significantly worth more than your investments.
the Hewlitt and Packard families are so stinking rich they don't even notice the excessive taxation.
On Thu Aug 22 09:59:45 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:salesx area.
On 8/21/2024 6:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 16:59:22 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 1:43 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 17:10:14 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/19/2024 4:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:52:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:48 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 09:17:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the
wow...
no, tom, any letter which you allegedly wrote to Judicial Watch was more
than likely ignored by them.
Your account with facebook was never closed. You were trying to access
it with the wrong credentials. It's that simple.
And facebook is _not_ a 501c3 non-profit. It's always been a for-profit
company, now publicly traded.
Like your poretense of being an electronics engineer (living a lifetime as a QC paperwork wonk), you really should tell us all you know about Facebook which is exactly nothing as your skills as a programmer.
I very clearly know vastly more about facebook than you do, since you >>>>>>>> couldn't figure out how to access an active account and are under some >>>>>>>> delusion they are a non-profit.
You show over abnd over that you know nothing. Stop pretending to.Facebook did NOT reopen my account.
Of course they didn't reopen it. They never closed it to begin with. >>>>>>
They allowed me to open a new one. And this no doubt in response to a letter reminding them of their responsibilities under the law.
You go ahead and make believe they caved to the pressure of a sternly >>>>>> worded letter from you (lol).
I don't HAVE to remember passwords since my system automatically does that, You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
It wasn't your password, dumbass, it was your email address. You were >>>>>> trying to log in using a different one than you created the account >>>>>> with, hence 'there is no account associated with that email address'. >>>>>>
And they aren't a non-profit company. If you think they are post a link >>>>>> to a reference showing their 501c3 status.
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So besides telling me that Aabbot isn't leaving their overly taxed sites in Alameda, now you're talling me that my automatic login is wrong.
You had an automatic login for facebook? That's pretty stupid. If that's >>>> how you manager your personal security it's no wonder that your email
keeps getting hacked.
No wonder you need a head of assemblers to tell you what to do.
"head of assemblers"? lol...Now I know you've never done more tan push a >>>> broom.
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I knows that you have no idea about personal security
Said the rube who complains incessantly about his personal data getting
hacked
since you assemblers usually on do what you're told or get fired like you were from your last job.
I've never been fired. You would know way more about that than me.
I suppose that's why you value staying at a company forever.
Yup, it's called job security - something you've never had.
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They don't usually fire assemblers.
I was fired once for trying to get rid of a problem area.
Because they fired me and kept that problem manager, they went out of business within a month of getting rid of me.
That company was paying me a quarter of a million a year and should have listened. Instead, the investors lost their money.
QC paperwoek wonks do not have the power to make changes in companies. You cry on someone's shoulder.
Tell us again that it is "Facial Recognician"
On Fri Aug 23 05:15:59 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/22/2024 9:57 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 6:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 16:43:50 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 12:27 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 05:32:37 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 6:15 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:47:31 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Aug 17 20:52:32 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on >>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to >>>>>>>>>>>> opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) >>>>>>>>>>>> status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the >>>>>>>>>>>> salesx area.
HAHAHAHAHA! :-)
--
- Frank Krygowski
I see you've finally realized what a joke you are. Tell us what >>>>>>>>>> you did as a "olant engineer" and why they fired you.
I think we might need you to explain what you think an "olant >>>>>>>>> engineers"
responsibilities are first.
If you were actually an engineer you would have sufficient IQ to >>>>>>>> recognize a typo. So I guess you've been lying about your
position. So you must be an assembler.
Gee, I never though if might be a typo <eyeroll>
If you had sufficient IQ you'd figure out how to turn on the spell >>>>>>> checker. It certainly won't stop you from embarrassing yourself, >>>>>>> but it
might help give some cover over your drunk posting.
How's that libel lawsuit coming, you drunk -assed bitch?
Assemblers are like water they boil at the drop of a hat.
You wouldn't be qualified to sweep floors in any company Ive ever worked >>>>> at, let alone be an assembler
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I guess that's why you've nebver worked at what would be called a
successful company in California.
Or, it could be that I've never lived in CA, dumbass.
Actually, I _did_ work for a very successful California-based company
for ten years. It was called Hewlett-Packard before it spun off the
Agilent. Perhaps you've heard of it/them. They're still there, both
based in California, right in the area where you claim "all the high
tech is gone and there are no jobs left".
How much did you say that 401k is worth? $2,500? Why you're just
rolling in it.
Which would be significantly worth more than your investments.
H-P is STILL based in Palo Alto (which is NOT part of Silicon Valley) because the Hewlitt and Packard families are so stinking rich they don't even notice the excessive taxation. But Gavin Loathsome is working on that right now. What do you supposethey will do when they disccover that he is using their money to pay for downpayments for the home buying in their neighborhoods of illegal aliens?
My, my, you really are a dreamer. You really can program
you just can't understand a simple program.
Electric cars don't burn.
I didn't get rich designing and programming medical and laboratory instruments.
You're doing so much better than me that it is a laugh.
You're a Cat 3 racer that enjoys being lapped twice in a 10 mile race.
Are you sure that you and Liebermann aren't kissing cousins or just kissing?
You never made one mention of having a wife until it became important to have one to "prove" you're not queer.
Suddenly you're married but why did you never mention her in any other postings?
Are you that self important that she is absolutely NOTHING?
Because of my experience trying to find the cause of AIDS,
I know the way queers talk and you're one for almost certain.
I suppose that you could be an outlier, but I have never seen a straight person so self important as you.
Your 2 bit comments about spelling errors are part of that in case you're unaware of it.
Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> writes:
On 8/20/2024 2:01 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 20:50:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>A great deal of programming is done today by AIs (Actual Indians).
wrote:
You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
I hate to disappoint you, but I know very little about programming. I >>> can do some programming when necessary but prefer to have someone else >>> do my programming. I also don't mix socially with programmers.
Despite these limitations, I've been successfully self-employed as a
computer consultant and computer repairman for 36 years (1984 to
2020):
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/> >>> While knowing how to program can be useful, it's not a requirement for >>> knowing how to configure a Facebook account, knowing how to login,
being able to type your email address or login name correctly, and fix >>> various Windoze software related problems.
My knowing very little about programming was not an accident or the
result of a head injury. It was an intentional decision that I had to >>> reluctantly make when I moved to Silicon Valley. At the time (1973 ?) >>> the pundits and experts were proclaiming that an engineer, who didn't
immediately learn how to program, would soon become obsolete and
unemployable. I realized that there was not enough time to
simultaneously stay up to date on RF (radio frequency) design and
learn how to program. Since the herd was stampeding in the direction
of programming, I decided that concentrating on RF design was a better >>> choice. There were times when I regretted that decision, but over the >>> years, it has worked quite well for me. Predictably, most of the
analog and RF engineers I know can also program, but few of the
programmers I've met can do anything useful with RF design. Meanwhile, >>> the same programmers are complaining that their jobs are being
outsourced to less expensive overseas sweat shops. In the future,
programming might be performed by AI's.
HAH!!!
That's cute. I won't be repeating it to my Indian boss though.
I doubt mine would take offense, although I haven't tried it.
I
won't hold my breath waiting for artificial intelligence to become
reliable or cost effective.
Feel free to breathe, it's here, now.
--
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:30:41 -0400, Radey Shouman
<shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
AI today is almost entirely
hype, and has been massively oversold. We'll have at least another "AI >winter" before it can be relied upon as much as even a very low grade >employee.
Yep.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=emerging+technology++hype+cycle&udm=2> <https://www.gartner.com/en/articles/what-s-new-in-artificial-intelligence-from-the-2023-gartner-hype-cycle>
My view is that the value of any new product or technology is mostly destermine by how much and how well it is abused and misused. Judging
the numerous real and potential horror stories, AI will soon be very successful.
Also, new disruptive technologies like AI, tend to replace employees
at the bottom and enrich owners at the top.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 14:01:43 -0400, Radey Shouman
<shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
A great deal of programming is done today by AIs (Actual Indians).
In about 1999, management was experimenting with outsourcing a product design to someone they found on monster.com in India. I was not
directly involved in this product. The manager would call India about
once per week to obtain status updates. One day, he mentioned that he
had called and received a "no progress" report because of a holiday.
As the project continued, such "no progress" reports continued to be
quite frequent. As you might suspect, the project was late and poorly designed. Hint:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_India>
I could also expound on some more past outsourcing horror stories but
it's less work to just post a link so I don't need to violate an NDA
in order to tell the story: <https://www.google.com/search?q=outsourcing+horror+stories>
The world, or at least the USA, has moved on since then. I know a guy
who is a logic designer for AMD, meaning the silicon bits that make your computah go. 90% of his job seems to attending meetings at odd hours to manage the work force, most of which is in India. I don't know exactly
what it is, but Indians do a significant fraction of all the programming grunt work being done, from web site front ends to ASICs.
I won't hold my breath waiting for artificial intelligence to become >>reliable or cost effective.
I believe that AI will eventually become an improvement over
outsourcing.
Eventually we'll all have pie in the sky. AI today is almost entirely
hype, and has been massively oversold. We'll have at least another "AI winter" before it can be relied upon as much as even a very low grade employee.
--
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:28:57 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 14:53:57 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:35:17 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
"Was Thomas Kunich one of the early adopters of artificial
intelligence?"
<https://search.brave.com/search?q=Was+Thomas+Kunich+one+of+the+early+adopters+of+artificial+intelligence%3F>
"There is no evidence to suggest that Thomas Kunich was an early
adopter of artificial intelligence."
Tom, the AI has spoken and you are not among the patriarchs.
Remember when you looked for patents in my name?
Yes, I do remember. You never specified which company, patented your unspecified ideas that they used in what unspecified products. Perhaps
I'm also being too vague. Which patent numbers have your name
attached?
(Aug 31, 2023) <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ> "The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
This is even dumber than that.
Since you were unwilling or uninterested in producing some patents
with your name attached, I had to resort to proving that there was no
patent. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, but it works well
enough to demonstrate that you don't have any patented inventions.
And in your case that's saying a whole lot.
Thanks. I do tend to say "a whole lot", which is better than you
saying little or nothing of value.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:17:00 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:36:39 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:28:57 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 14:53:57 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:35:17 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
"Was Thomas Kunich one of the early adopters of artificial
intelligence?"
<https://search.brave.com/search?q=Was+Thomas+Kunich+one+of+the+early+adopters+of+artificial+intelligence%3F>
"There is no evidence to suggest that Thomas Kunich was an early
adopter of artificial intelligence."
Tom, the AI has spoken and you are not among the patriarchs.
Remember when you looked for patents in my name?
Yes, I do remember. You never specified which company, patented your >>unspecified ideas that they used in what unspecified products. Perhaps >>I'm also being too vague. Which patent numbers have your name
attached?
(Aug 31, 2023) >><https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
Actually I believe that the system works this way. The patent is made
in the name of who owns it. If the inventor works for a company then >obviously the company owns his output and thus the patent. But in all
the cases that I've seen the individual(s) who actually did the work
is given credit.
Yes, that's the way it works. When I worked for various corporations,
the standard hiring practice (at the time) was for prospective
employees to disclose all of their existing and pending patents. Those
remain property of the employee after being hired. Under the terms of
a typical employment contract, everything done by the employee at work
and at home is automatically assigned to the company. If the employee
is working on a patented product that is not work related, he will
need to get a release from the company. There are also clauses for
dealing with patents issued after the employee leaves the company and
other complications. At the time when I gave up tracking such patent
issues, the courts were dealing with companies which demanded
assignment to the company of literally every patent that the employee
owns. I don't know what happened to that mess. The system has
changed over the years and I'm still living in the 20th century.
see https://patents.justia.com/assignee/sturm-ruger-company-inc
Magazine for firearm
Patent number: 10921075
Type: Grant
Filed: July 9, 2019
Date of Patent: February 16, 2021
Assignee: STURM, RUGER & COMPANY, INC.
Inventors: Nathan Brown, Matthew S. Willson, Dean M. Cousino, Maksim >Sakalouski
or
UNIVERSAL MAGAZINE LATCH MECHANISM FOR FIREARM
Publication number: 20140325886
Type: Application
Filed: May 5, 2014
Publication date: November 6, 2014
Applicant: Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc.
Inventor: Jonathan Philip MATHER
So, it seems likely that any invention made by Tom would include his
name. If he did the work on his own time then logically the assignee
would be his name and of done on "company time" the company's.
True, but not always. There were several products that were
eventually patented, where I did most of the work, but where the
patent listed the Dept Manager and the Chief Engineer as the
inventors. I complained bitterly, but there was nothing I could do to
change it. That may have been what happened to Tom. However, I doubt
it because I would have expected Tom to have mentioned it or at least disclosed the patent number.
--Since you were unwilling or uninterested in producing some patents
with your name attached, I had to resort to proving that there was no >>patent. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, but it works well >>enough to demonstrate that you don't have any patented inventions.
And in your case that's saying a whole lot.
Thanks. I do tend to say "a whole lot", which is better than you
saying little or nothing of value.
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On 8/21/2024 8:17 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:36:39 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:28:57 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 14:53:57 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:35:17 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
"Was Thomas Kunich one of the early adopters of artificial
intelligence?"
<https://search.brave.com/search?q=Was+Thomas+Kunich+one+of+the+early+adopters+of+artificial+intelligence%3F>
"There is no evidence to suggest that Thomas Kunich was an early
adopter of artificial intelligence."
Tom, the AI has spoken and you are not among the patriarchs.
Remember when you looked for patents in my name?
Yes, I do remember. You never specified which company, patented your
unspecified ideas that they used in what unspecified products. Perhaps
I'm also being too vague. Which patent numbers have your name
attached?
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
Actually I believe that the system works this way. The patent is made
in the name of who owns it. If the inventor works for a company then obviously the company owns his output and thus the patent. But in all
the cases that I've seen the individual(s) who actually did the work
is given credit.
see https://patents.justia.com/assignee/sturm-ruger-company-inc
Magazine for firearm
Patent number: 10921075
Type: Grant
Filed: July 9, 2019
Date of Patent: February 16, 2021
Assignee: STURM, RUGER & COMPANY, INC.
Inventors: Nathan Brown, Matthew S. Willson, Dean M. Cousino, Maksim Sakalouski
or
UNIVERSAL MAGAZINE LATCH MECHANISM FOR FIREARM
Publication number: 20140325886
Type: Application
Filed: May 5, 2014
Publication date: November 6, 2014
Applicant: Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc.
Inventor: Jonathan Philip MATHER
So, it seems likely that any invention made by Tom would include his
name. If he did the work on his own time then logically the assignee
would be his name and of done on "company time" the company's.
Since you were unwilling or uninterested in producing some patents
with your name attached, I had to resort to proving that there was no
patent. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, but it works well
enough to demonstrate that you don't have any patented inventions.
And in your case that's saying a whole lot.
Thanks. I do tend to say "a whole lot", which is better than you
saying little or nothing of value.
There are notable exceptions.
William Riley was never credited for his inspired
breakthrough planetary gearbox. As an employee of Raleigh
Industries, the patent papers were drafted as work by two
midlevel engineers, Messrs Sturmey and Archer, who were not
involved in the development..
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
On Thu Aug 22 07:44:33 2024 AMuzi wrote:
On 8/21/2024 8:17 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:36:39 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:28:57 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 14:53:57 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:35:17 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
"Was Thomas Kunich one of the early adopters of artificial
intelligence?"
<https://search.brave.com/search?q=Was+Thomas+Kunich+one+of+the+early+adopters+of+artificial+intelligence%3F>
"There is no evidence to suggest that Thomas Kunich was an early
adopter of artificial intelligence."
Tom, the AI has spoken and you are not among the patriarchs.
Remember when you looked for patents in my name?
Yes, I do remember. You never specified which company, patented your
unspecified ideas that they used in what unspecified products. Perhaps >>>> I'm also being too vague. Which patent numbers have your name
attached?
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
Actually I believe that the system works this way. The patent is made
in the name of who owns it. If the inventor works for a company then
obviously the company owns his output and thus the patent. But in all
the cases that I've seen the individual(s) who actually did the work
is given credit.
see https://patents.justia.com/assignee/sturm-ruger-company-inc
Magazine for firearm
Patent number: 10921075
Type: Grant
Filed: July 9, 2019
Date of Patent: February 16, 2021
Assignee: STURM, RUGER & COMPANY, INC.
Inventors: Nathan Brown, Matthew S. Willson, Dean M. Cousino, Maksim
Sakalouski
or
UNIVERSAL MAGAZINE LATCH MECHANISM FOR FIREARM
Publication number: 20140325886
Type: Application
Filed: May 5, 2014
Publication date: November 6, 2014
Applicant: Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc.
Inventor: Jonathan Philip MATHER
So, it seems likely that any invention made by Tom would include his
name. If he did the work on his own time then logically the assignee
would be his name and of done on "company time" the company's.
Since you were unwilling or uninterested in producing some patents
with your name attached, I had to resort to proving that there was no
patent. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, but it works well
enough to demonstrate that you don't have any patented inventions.
And in your case that's saying a whole lot.
Thanks. I do tend to say "a whole lot", which is better than you
saying little or nothing of value.
There are notable exceptions.
William Riley was never credited for his inspired
breakthrough planetary gearbox. As an employee of Raleigh
Industries, the patent papers were drafted as work by two
midlevel engineers, Messrs Sturmey and Archer, who were not
involved in the development..
People who know absolutely nothing about business practives are always the first to tell you about them.
Dumbass, I never said that any company patented machines I designed.
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ> >> "The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
If I had a reverse mortgage or ANY mortgage it would be a matter of public record.
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:36:39 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:28:57 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 14:53:57 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:35:17 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
"Was Thomas Kunich one of the early adopters of artificial
intelligence?"
<https://search.brave.com/search?q=Was+Thomas+Kunich+one+of+the+early+adopters+of+artificial+intelligence%3F>
"There is no evidence to suggest that Thomas Kunich was an early
adopter of artificial intelligence."
Tom, the AI has spoken and you are not among the patriarchs.
Remember when you looked for patents in my name?
Yes, I do remember. You never specified which company, patented your >unspecified ideas that they used in what unspecified products. Perhaps
I'm also being too vague. Which patent numbers have your name
attached?
(Aug 31, 2023) ><https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ> >"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
Actually I believe that the system works this way. The patent is made
in the name of who owns it. If the inventor works for a company then obviously the company owns his output and thus the patent. But in all
the cases that I've seen the individual(s) who actually did the work
is given credit.
see https://patents.justia.com/assignee/sturm-ruger-company-inc
Magazine for firearm
Patent number: 10921075
Type: Grant
Filed: July 9, 2019
Date of Patent: February 16, 2021
Assignee: STURM, RUGER & COMPANY, INC.
Inventors: Nathan Brown, Matthew S. Willson, Dean M. Cousino, Maksim Sakalouski
or
UNIVERSAL MAGAZINE LATCH MECHANISM FOR FIREARM
Publication number: 20140325886
Type: Application
Filed: May 5, 2014
Publication date: November 6, 2014
Applicant: Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc.
Inventor: Jonathan Philip MATHER
So, it seems likely that any invention made by Tom would include his
name. If he did the work on his own time then logically the assignee
would be his name and of done on "company time" the company's.
Since you were unwilling or uninterested in producing some patents
with your name attached, I had to resort to proving that there was no >patent. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, but it works well
enough to demonstrate that you don't have any patented inventions.
And in your case that's saying a whole lot.
Thanks. I do tend to say "a whole lot", which is better than you--
saying little or nothing of value.
Cheers,
John B.
Biden would have issued a blanket pardon for everyone involved in the Covid-19 debacle.
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:47:07 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
If I had a reverse mortgage or ANY mortgage it would be a matter of public record.
I already tried that and failed. To get that information, Alameda
County required a personal visit or phone call to their records
office. I haven't bothered.
<https://www.acassessor.org/property-ownership-2/>
"We are often asked why ownership information is not posted on our
website since property ownership is part of the assessment roll which
by law is a public document. With the introduction of the Internet, government is faced with the issue of balancing public information requirements with the privacy rights of individuals. The Assessor is
legally prohibited from posting the home address of any elected or
appointed official, including safety officers and retired officials,
on the Internet. As the cost and effort to continuously update this information is prohibitive, we do not display the names of any
property owner on our website."
"Property Search"
<https://propinfo.acgov.org/>
I plugged in Tom's address and found that no owner specific
information was available online.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On 8/26/2024 11:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:salesx area.
On Thu Aug 22 09:59:45 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 6:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 16:59:22 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 1:43 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 17:10:14 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/19/2024 4:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:52:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:48 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 09:17:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the
wow...
no, tom, any letter which you allegedly wrote to Judicial Watch was more
than likely ignored by them.
Your account with facebook was never closed. You were trying to access
it with the wrong credentials. It's that simple.
And facebook is _not_ a 501c3 non-profit. It's always been a for-profit
company, now publicly traded.
Like your poretense of being an electronics engineer (living a lifetime as a QC paperwork wonk), you really should tell us all you know about Facebook which is exactly nothing as your skills as a programmer.
I very clearly know vastly more about facebook than you do, since you
couldn't figure out how to access an active account and are under some
delusion they are a non-profit.
You show over abnd over that you know nothing. Stop pretending to.Facebook did NOT reopen my account.
Of course they didn't reopen it. They never closed it to begin with. >>>>>>
They allowed me to open a new one. And this no doubt in response to a letter reminding them of their responsibilities under the law.
You go ahead and make believe they caved to the pressure of a sternly >>>>>> worded letter from you (lol).
I don't HAVE to remember passwords since my system automatically does that, You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
It wasn't your password, dumbass, it was your email address. You were >>>>>> trying to log in using a different one than you created the account >>>>>> with, hence 'there is no account associated with that email address'. >>>>>>
And they aren't a non-profit company. If you think they are post a link
to a reference showing their 501c3 status.
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So besides telling me that Aabbot isn't leaving their overly taxed sites in Alameda, now you're talling me that my automatic login is wrong.
You had an automatic login for facebook? That's pretty stupid. If that's >>>> how you manager your personal security it's no wonder that your email >>>> keeps getting hacked.
No wonder you need a head of assemblers to tell you what to do.
"head of assemblers"? lol...Now I know you've never done more tan push a >>>> broom.
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I knows that you have no idea about personal security
Said the rube who complains incessantly about his personal data getting
hacked
since you assemblers usually on do what you're told or get fired like you were from your last job.
I've never been fired. You would know way more about that than me.
I suppose that's why you value staying at a company forever.
Yup, it's called job security - something you've never had.
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They don't usually fire assemblers.
You would know
I was fired once for trying to get rid of a problem area.
Correction, you were fired _to_ get rid of the problem
Because they fired me and kept that problem manager, they went out of business within a month of getting rid of me.
And what company was this? Because you've been bragging for years that
some idiot VP kept following you around to throw more money at you. Are
you sure it wasn't' the company that fired you for rifling through the
HR office records after hours?
That company was paying me a quarter of a million a year and should have listened. Instead, the investors lost their money.
Anyone that would consider paying you more than minimum wage would be
better off just burning their money.
QC paperwoek wonks do not have the power to make changes in companies. You cry on someone's shoulder.
Fubnny, because I can, and have, ordered a stop-ship of products that
weren't meeting HazLoc requirements.
Tell us again that it is "Facial Recognician"
There isn't any such thing as Facial "recognician".
> and that it is legal to use it as evidence when it is unconstitutional.
Facial recognition is perfectly admissible as evidence, I've posted
several links discussing that. I challange you to post anything where a
court has declared it unconstitutional, dumbass.
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On Mon Aug 26 18:33:27 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:salesx area.
On 8/26/2024 11:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Aug 22 09:59:45 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 6:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 16:59:22 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 1:43 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 17:10:14 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/19/2024 4:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:52:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:48 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 09:17:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the
wow...
no, tom, any letter which you allegedly wrote to Judicial Watch was more
than likely ignored by them.
Your account with facebook was never closed. You were trying to access
it with the wrong credentials. It's that simple.
And facebook is _not_ a 501c3 non-profit. It's always been a for-profit
company, now publicly traded.
Like your poretense of being an electronics engineer (living a lifetime as a QC paperwork wonk), you really should tell us all you know about Facebook which is exactly nothing as your skills as a programmer.
I very clearly know vastly more about facebook than you do, since you
couldn't figure out how to access an active account and are under some
delusion they are a non-profit.
You show over abnd over that you know nothing. Stop pretending to.Facebook did NOT reopen my account.
Of course they didn't reopen it. They never closed it to begin with. >>>>>>>>
They allowed me to open a new one. And this no doubt in response to a letter reminding them of their responsibilities under the law.
You go ahead and make believe they caved to the pressure of a sternly >>>>>>>> worded letter from you (lol).
I don't HAVE to remember passwords since my system automatically does that, You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
It wasn't your password, dumbass, it was your email address. You were >>>>>>>> trying to log in using a different one than you created the account >>>>>>>> with, hence 'there is no account associated with that email address'. >>>>>>>>
And they aren't a non-profit company. If you think they are post a link
to a reference showing their 501c3 status.
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So besides telling me that Aabbot isn't leaving their overly taxed sites in Alameda, now you're talling me that my automatic login is wrong.
You had an automatic login for facebook? That's pretty stupid. If that's >>>>>> how you manager your personal security it's no wonder that your email >>>>>> keeps getting hacked.
No wonder you need a head of assemblers to tell you what to do.
"head of assemblers"? lol...Now I know you've never done more tan push a >>>>>> broom.
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I knows that you have no idea about personal security
Said the rube who complains incessantly about his personal data getting >>>> hacked
since you assemblers usually on do what you're told or get fired like you were from your last job.
I've never been fired. You would know way more about that than me.
I suppose that's why you value staying at a company forever.
Yup, it's called job security - something you've never had.
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They don't usually fire assemblers.
You would know
I was fired once for trying to get rid of a problem area.
Correction, you were fired _to_ get rid of the problem
Because they fired me and kept that problem manager, they went out of business within a month of getting rid of me.
And what company was this? Because you've been bragging for years that
some idiot VP kept following you around to throw more money at you. Are
you sure it wasn't' the company that fired you for rifling through the
HR office records after hours?
That company was paying me a quarter of a million a year and should have listened. Instead, the investors lost their money.
Anyone that would consider paying you more than minimum wage would be
better off just burning their money.
QC paperwoek wonks do not have the power to make changes in companies. You cry on someone's shoulder.
Fubnny, because I can, and have, ordered a stop-ship of products that
weren't meeting HazLoc requirements.
Tell us again that it is "Facial Recognician"
There isn't any such thing as Facial "recognician".
> and that it is legal to use it as evidence when it is unconstitutional. >>
Facial recognition is perfectly admissible as evidence, I've posted
several links discussing that. I challange you to post anything where a
court has declared it unconstitutional, dumbass.
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You are an idiot and know too little to even brag about being a paperwork wonk. People complain about spelling because they have nothing else in their heeads.that don't know words me but only how to spell them it means that there are NO special cases in the confrontation clause.
Your pretense of knowing other than how to sign your name on paperwork is comical.
I courts don't HAVE to declare it unconstitutional you moron. It is the Confrontation Clause of the 6th Amendment. Lower courts can say ANYTHING THEY LIKE, but the Supreme Court had ALWAYS declared the confrontation clause to be indivisible. To people
On the smartest day of your life you make Biden look intelligent.
On 8/27/2024 1:45 PM, cyclintom wrote:large enough to make real AI.
On Tue Aug 27 09:48:52 2024 AMuzi wrote:
On 8/27/2024 9:41 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 26 18:45:49 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/26/2024 12:31 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Aug 22 16:33:26 2024 AMuzi wrote:
On 8/22/2024 3:44 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Aug 22 14:55:06 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/22/2024 11:00 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Aug 22 10:18:14 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 7:13 PM, cyclintom wrote:
I know you're all expecting me to comment on Liebermann, Flunky or Krygowski, but I am simply going to tell you where it is used.
The thumbprint detector on your phone which makes up most consumer goods sold by price. Face recognician software widely used by the government. And voice recognition software used whereever they have enough computationaol power.
You all know that your thumbprint is lucky to be recognized one out of 20 times.
Mine works 19 out of 20 times the first try, when it doesn't it's >>>>>>>> usually an issue of sweaty fingers trying to open the app during a run
or a ride. It's more likely you have it marginally set up, or maybe >>>>>>>> you're just using a cheap POS phone with a low-end display resolution.
Tell ya what, mr "i made $14000 off my investments last month" (no, you
didn't)....buy a better phone.
Face recognician is so reliable that it is not allowed as evidence in any courtroom in the US.
First off, it's Facial Recognition, not face recognician. And no, it >>>>>>>> wasn't a typo, you wrote it twice exactly the same way.
Facial recognition software is allowed as evidence in _every_ courtroom
in the US, exactly the opposite of what you claim. This is why >>>>>>>> California is only now advancing legislation to limit the criminal >>>>>>>> justice system use of facial recognition under Assembly Bill 1814. >>>>>>>> Critics say it doesn't go far enough because it still allows facial >>>>>>>> recognition to be used as evidence.
https://calmatters.org/economy/technology/2024/06/face-recognition-technology-california/
As for voice recognition I could not get it to work to properly understand "La Vuelra" once in dozens of tries this morning.
Maybe you should have tried it before you were drunk. Voice recognition
works best when you aren't slurring your speech.
Of course, knowing you, what you were probably trying to find was "La
Vuelta", but as usual you misspelled it and aren't bright enough to >>>>>>>> figure out how to enable the spell checker (Re: "Artificiqal"). And then
it never occurred to you that you were trying to use a spanish phrase on
a system set to understand American English.
dumb, dumb, dumb, tommy
The point is: even with sharply defined boundaries, AI is a failure. Elon Musk owns an AI company and knows how to propagadize to mmake it successful. There may very well be money to be made investing in it but you cannot have a database
used illegally in California is no surprise. We need only remembr the stupid things you've ssid time and agaoin and remember that Calfornia is now a state full of Flunkies whose Governor Gavin Loathsome drove away all of the sane people over the years.And everyday you insist on showing what a woefully misinformed idiot you
I'll give you some credibility on the issue when you can back up your
asinine claims with credible references. Learning how to spell >>>>>>>>>> 'artificial' would be a plus.
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Every day you insist on showing what a complete loser you are. >>>>>>>>
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Again and again, you present your stupidity to the universe. After telling us that it isn't Face Recognician (which is the proper term) you cite an article in which the term face recognician is used. By the wsy twinky, face recognician being
EVER appologize for your constant string of lies.
As for investment returns - Having a 1 1/4th% return on my investments seems too large to you? While at the same time the market is tracking the huge investments that your queen Janet Yellen has since appologized for. Fat chance that you would
willing to talk about things tht are in the news that you have no understanding of.
Face Recognician software is at best extremely unreliable. You show to everyone that you don't have the slightest understanding of AI and then claim that I don't. Did Janet Jellen tell you that?
Must be a conspiracy of worldwide breadth.
Search in DuckDuckGo.com for "Face Recognician" returns:
No results found for "Face Recognician".
Suggestions:
Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
Andrew, you're a little out of your leaque.
I would agree you're in a league of your own. But for some pathetic
dumbass like you to accuse Andrew of 'being out of his league" is the >>>> absolute height if ignorance and arrogance. You really need to apologize >>>> to him.
I got thousands of hits including Face Recognician and Facial Recognician.
That's because it's autocorrecting it for you dumbass.
"Including results for Face Recognition"
> > This cannot be used in court as evidence since it is unconstitutional.
Yes, it can be used as evidence, and it is used as evidence. Presenting >>>> facial recognition evidence is in no way unconstitutional. If you think >>>> it is, show a link to a court decision that has declared it as such. >>>>
Remember - you have a right to FACE your accuser. You can not cross
examine a piece of software.
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Unlike you who have written award winning AI software, Andrew is a bicycle shop owner and doesn't understand AI with your and Liebermann's bullshit misinderstandings of it and loud mouth's. You're mnothing more than a two bit phony more thsn
Tell us what you actually know about AI when you can't even program. Oh, I forget, you claim to be able to program but couldn't understand a program that only blinks lights.
You might leave me out of your snark rant. Please.
IMAGINES the roadway and what it will do. This makes it no better than a fairly new driver - dangerous to others.I will, but please don't think that because you read a couple of articles about AI that you know anything about it. All of the articles I've seen could have been written by Flunky. I would hardly call the self driving feature of the Tesla, AI. It
Did I make some pronouncement about artificial intelligence?
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On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:18:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
the Hewlitt and Packard families are so stinking rich they don't even notice the excessive taxation.
If they don't notice it, it's obviously not "excessive".
If the working class notices taxes, maybe they should be
reduced.
Does your representative propose making billionaires "notice"
taxes too? (AKA, abolishing loopholes in legislation).
Or do you think rich people should be exempt?
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:57:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:54:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Dumbass, I never said that any company patented machines I designed.
I beg to differ. You most certainly did claim that your employers
patented your machines under their company names. See below:
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
Incidentally, you don't "register" a patent. You "apply for" or "are >issued" a patent. You "register" a trademark or copyright. Nice >demonstration that you haven't had much involvement with trademarks, >copyrights and patents.
But a VAST amount of experience in telling lies :-)
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:54:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Dumbass, I never said that any company patented machines I designed.
I beg to differ. You most certainly did claim that your employers
patented your machines under their company names. See below:
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
Incidentally, you don't "register" a patent. You "apply for" or "are
issued" a patent. You "register" a trademark or copyright. Nice demonstration that you haven't had much involvement with trademarks, copyrights and patents.
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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 18:07:05 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Aug 27 11:54:35 2024 AMuzi wrote:
On 8/27/2024 9:59 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Aug 22 07:44:33 2024 AMuzi wrote:
On 8/21/2024 8:17 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:36:39 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >> >>> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:28:57 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 14:53:57 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:35:17 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >> >>>>>> wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
"Was Thomas Kunich one of the early adopters of artificial
intelligence?"
<https://search.brave.com/search?q=Was+Thomas+Kunich+one+of+the+early+adopters+of+artificial+intelligence%3F>
"There is no evidence to suggest that Thomas Kunich was an early
adopter of artificial intelligence."
Tom, the AI has spoken and you are not among the patriarchs.
Remember when you looked for patents in my name?
Yes, I do remember. You never specified which company, patented your >> >>>> unspecified ideas that they used in what unspecified products. Perhaps
I'm also being too vague. Which patent numbers have your name
attached?
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products - >> >>>> my inventions under their names."
Actually I believe that the system works this way. The patent is made >> >>> in the name of who owns it. If the inventor works for a company then >> >>> obviously the company owns his output and thus the patent. But in all >> >>> the cases that I've seen the individual(s) who actually did the work >> >>> is given credit.
see https://patents.justia.com/assignee/sturm-ruger-company-inc
Magazine for firearm
Patent number: 10921075
Type: Grant
Filed: July 9, 2019
Date of Patent: February 16, 2021
Assignee: STURM, RUGER & COMPANY, INC.
Inventors: Nathan Brown, Matthew S. Willson, Dean M. Cousino, Maksim >> >>> Sakalouski
or
UNIVERSAL MAGAZINE LATCH MECHANISM FOR FIREARM
Publication number: 20140325886
Type: Application
Filed: May 5, 2014
Publication date: November 6, 2014
Applicant: Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc.
Inventor: Jonathan Philip MATHER
So, it seems likely that any invention made by Tom would include his >> >>> name. If he did the work on his own time then logically the assignee >> >>> would be his name and of done on "company time" the company's.
Since you were unwilling or uninterested in producing some patents
with your name attached, I had to resort to proving that there was no >> >>>> patent. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, but it works well >> >>>> enough to demonstrate that you don't have any patented inventions.
And in your case that's saying a whole lot.
Thanks. I do tend to say "a whole lot", which is better than you
saying little or nothing of value.
There are notable exceptions.
William Riley was never credited for his inspired
breakthrough planetary gearbox. As an employee of Raleigh
Industries, the patent papers were drafted as work by two
midlevel engineers, Messrs Sturmey and Archer, who were not
involved in the development..
People who know absolutely nothing about business practives are always the first to tell you about them.
As with every human endeavor...
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Unfortunately you're correct as usual. I've been aroundfor a long enough time to do most everything and Liebermann who has
done nothing will tell you all about anything. I suppose i5 iw 5oo bad
that he doesn't understand that something he thinks would work doesn't because he has never had any experience with thingd that work and
things that don't. Flunky has had very limited eperience but compared
to Liebermann he is Einstein. It is too bad that he can't stop
himselrf from pretending that he is more than he is. He might even be
a nice guy under all of the horseshit. John is an old guy that doesn't
like me insulting these guys who he believes to be experts. That's
fair. But they aren't experts and should stop acting as such.
Frank was a teacher and believes that teachers should be respected.Well, I respect those who deserve respect. It isn't given
automatically because of someone's position. Fauci is certainly a very
plain case in point. He lied before Congress, it was proven and they
did NOTHING to him. Perhaps that was because Biden would have issued a blanket pardon for everyone involved in the Covid-19 debacle. But in
my opinion they should have tried. He killed more people than in ALL
of the wars of the 20th century.
So Fauci lied? But who are you to complain? You have been lying ever
since you showed up in the Web.
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:54:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:28:57 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 14:53:57 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 17:35:17 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I was one of the first to program AI into products...
"Was Thomas Kunich one of the early adopters of artificial
intelligence?"
<https://search.brave.com/search?q=Was+Thomas+Kunich+one+of+the+early+adopters+of+artificial+intelligence%3F>
"There is no evidence to suggest that Thomas Kunich was an early
adopter of artificial intelligence."
Tom, the AI has spoken and you are not among the patriarchs.
Remember when you looked for patents in my name?
Yes, I do remember. You never specified which company, patented your
unspecified ideas that they used in what unspecified products. Perhaps
I'm also being too vague. Which patent numbers have your name
attached?
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
This is even dumber than that.
Since you were unwilling or uninterested in producing some patents
with your name attached, I had to resort to proving that there was no
patent. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, but it works well
enough to demonstrate that you don't have any patented inventions.
And in your case that's saying a whole lot.
Thanks. I do tend to say "a whole lot", which is better than you
saying little or nothing of value.
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Dumbass, I never said that any companypatented machines I designed. I have no idea of the legal end. I am
an engineer and not a lawyer like you. I did SHOW you many of the
instruments that were traded on Ebay. And you sniveled that I couldn't
have designed and programmed those. You have never done anything and
think y0ou can judge my work, ?You probably also believe that John
rides bicycles into Bangkok which is more dangerous than Oakland. Not
to mention that he is in his 90's.
Nope Tommy I don't ride in Bangkok any more as we moved to a house in
the country a number of years ago.
So what? After bicycle deaths in Thailand are very low.
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On Wed Aug 28 07:54:51 2024 John B. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:57:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:54:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Dumbass, I never said that any company patented machines I designed.
I beg to differ. You most certainly did claim that your employers
patented your machines under their company names. See below:
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products - >>>>> my inventions under their names."
Incidentally, you don't "register" a patent. You "apply for" or "are
issued" a patent. You "register" a trademark or copyright. Nice
demonstration that you haven't had much involvement with trademarks,
copyrights and patents.
But a VAST amount of experience in telling lies :-)
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John B.
John, stilol mad because I called you on your "important" job of being a crew chief of a bomber that was never active. It was used for photoreconisance? That's NOT A BOMBER is it?
On 8/27/2024 1:34 PM, cyclintom wrote:salesx area.
On Mon Aug 26 18:33:27 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/26/2024 11:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Aug 22 09:59:45 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 6:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 16:59:22 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 1:43 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 17:10:14 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/19/2024 4:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:52:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:48 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 09:17:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the
wow...
no, tom, any letter which you allegedly wrote to Judicial Watch was more
than likely ignored by them.
Your account with facebook was never closed. You were trying to access
it with the wrong credentials. It's that simple.
And facebook is _not_ a 501c3 non-profit. It's always been a for-profit
company, now publicly traded.
Like your poretense of being an electronics engineer (living a lifetime as a QC paperwork wonk), you really should tell us all you know about Facebook which is exactly nothing as your skills as a programmer.
I very clearly know vastly more about facebook than you do, since you
couldn't figure out how to access an active account and are under some
delusion they are a non-profit.
You show over abnd over that you know nothing. Stop pretending to.Facebook did NOT reopen my account.
Of course they didn't reopen it. They never closed it to begin with. >>>>>>>>
They allowed me to open a new one. And this no doubt in response to a letter reminding them of their responsibilities under the law.
You go ahead and make believe they caved to the pressure of a sternly
worded letter from you (lol).
I don't HAVE to remember passwords since my system automatically does that, You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
It wasn't your password, dumbass, it was your email address. You were
trying to log in using a different one than you created the account >>>>>>>> with, hence 'there is no account associated with that email address'.
And they aren't a non-profit company. If you think they are post a link
to a reference showing their 501c3 status.
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So besides telling me that Aabbot isn't leaving their overly taxed sites in Alameda, now you're talling me that my automatic login is wrong.
You had an automatic login for facebook? That's pretty stupid. If that's
how you manager your personal security it's no wonder that your email >>>>>> keeps getting hacked.
No wonder you need a head of assemblers to tell you what to do. >>>>>>"head of assemblers"? lol...Now I know you've never done more tan push a
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I knows that you have no idea about personal security
Said the rube who complains incessantly about his personal data getting >>>> hacked
since you assemblers usually on do what you're told or get fired like you were from your last job.
I've never been fired. You would know way more about that than me.
I suppose that's why you value staying at a company forever.
Yup, it's called job security - something you've never had.
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They don't usually fire assemblers.
You would know
I was fired once for trying to get rid of a problem area.
Correction, you were fired _to_ get rid of the problem
Because they fired me and kept that problem manager, they went out of business within a month of getting rid of me.
And what company was this? Because you've been bragging for years that
some idiot VP kept following you around to throw more money at you. Are
you sure it wasn't' the company that fired you for rifling through the
HR office records after hours?
That company was paying me a quarter of a million a year and should have listened. Instead, the investors lost their money.
Anyone that would consider paying you more than minimum wage would be
better off just burning their money.
QC paperwoek wonks do not have the power to make changes in companies. You cry on someone's shoulder.
Fubnny, because I can, and have, ordered a stop-ship of products that
weren't meeting HazLoc requirements.
Tell us again that it is "Facial Recognician"
There isn't any such thing as Facial "recognician".
> and that it is legal to use it as evidence when it is unconstitutional.
Facial recognition is perfectly admissible as evidence, I've posted
several links discussing that. I challange you to post anything where a
court has declared it unconstitutional, dumbass.
--
Add xx to reply
people that don't know words me but only how to spell them it means that there are NO special cases in the confrontation clause.You are an idiot and know too little to even brag about being a paperwork wonk. People complain about spelling because they have nothing else in their heeads.
Your pretense of knowing other than how to sign your name on paperwork is comical.
I courts don't HAVE to declare it unconstitutional you moron. It is the Confrontation Clause of the 6th Amendment. Lower courts can say ANYTHING THEY LIKE, but the Supreme Court had ALWAYS declared the confrontation clause to be indivisible. To
On the smartest day of your life you make Biden look intelligent.
Not clear to me:
https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-6/
Looks more like part of the (ever changing) rules of
evidence, not unlike lab tests for example:
https://theappeal.org/the-massachusetts-lab-scandals-confronting-the-new-normal-of-mass-error-in-criminal-justice-5b3e4687bb7c/
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Do YOU want to pay 12.5% of your income to the state to do NOTHING? Roads are NOT repaired,
(This is the third year of Redwood Road having a 50 foot deep hole entirely wiping the road out.)
On Mon Aug 26 16:44:55 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:18:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
the Hewlitt and Packard families are so stinking rich they don't even notice the excessive taxation.
If they don't notice it, it's obviously not "excessive".
If the working class notices taxes, maybe they should be
reduced.
Does your representative propose making billionaires "notice"
taxes too? (AKA, abolishing loopholes in legislation).
Or do you think rich people should be exempt?
[]'s
Why don't you move to California and then tell us that it isn't excessive. The filthy stinking rich not CARING that they lose and extra $40,000 from their billion dollar a year income doesn't mean it isn't excessive.
Do YOU want to pay 12.5% of your income to the state to do NOTHING?
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:10:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon Aug 26 16:44:55 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:18:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
the Hewlitt and Packard families are so stinking rich they don't even notice the excessive taxation.
If they don't notice it, it's obviously not "excessive".
If the working class notices taxes, maybe they should be
reduced.
Does your representative propose making billionaires "notice"
taxes too? (AKA, abolishing loopholes in legislation).
Or do you think rich people should be exempt?
[]'s
Why don't you move to California and then tell us that it isn't excessive. The filthy stinking rich not CARING that they lose and extra $40,000 from their billion dollar a year income doesn't mean it isn't excessive.
Excessive? They probably laugh all the way to the bank. That's
0.004%. Less irritating than a gnat bite. Fire a few thousand or cut
their benefits and blame it on "Excessive Tax". LOL.
Do YOU want to pay 12.5% of your income to the state to do NOTHING?
In Brazil it's 27.5%. For salaries and "self employed".
Basic food (like rice, beans, meat etc) has 40- 50% tax.
Jet-skis. helicopters and small aircraft(usually for smuggling
drugs) are tax free.
Rich people(I mean really rich, not people with a piddly 1-2
million) hardly pay any tax at all.
Right wing regimes are unfair to > 99% of the citizens.
I sometimes wonder why people vote for parties that screw them
over again and again, and then I remember that half the population has
an IQ of under 100 and many others get their news from their
cellphones....
[]'s
On 8/28/2024 4:36 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:10:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon Aug 26 16:44:55 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:18:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
the Hewlitt and Packard families are so stinking rich they don't even notice the excessive taxation.
If they don't notice it, it's obviously not "excessive".
If the working class notices taxes, maybe they should be
reduced.
Does your representative propose making billionaires "notice"
taxes too? (AKA, abolishing loopholes in legislation).
Or do you think rich people should be exempt?
[]'s
Why don't you move to California and then tell us that it isn't excessive. The filthy stinking rich not CARING that they lose and extra $40,000 from their billion dollar a year income doesn't mean it isn't excessive.
Excessive? They probably laugh all the way to the bank. That's
0.004%. Less irritating than a gnat bite. Fire a few thousand or cut
their benefits and blame it on "Excessive Tax". LOL.
Do YOU want to pay 12.5% of your income to the state to do NOTHING?
In Brazil it's 27.5%. For salaries and "self employed".
Basic food (like rice, beans, meat etc) has 40- 50% tax.
Jet-skis. helicopters and small aircraft(usually for smuggling
drugs) are tax free.
Rich people(I mean really rich, not people with a piddly 1-2
million) hardly pay any tax at all.
Right wing regimes are unfair to > 99% of the citizens.
I sometimes wonder why people vote for parties that screw them
over again and again, and then I remember that half the population has
an IQ of under 100 and many others get their news from their
cellphones....
[]'s
Interesting, thank you.
I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has
grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might
say diametrically different) administrations:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/
Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present
administration, similar to the US regime effect:
https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram
Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker
currency effect; shown in USD):
https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL
[click 'line chart' and 'exports']
So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so
perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I
don't know that.
On Tue Aug 27 10:57:16 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:54:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Dumbass, I never said that any company patented machines I designed.
I beg to differ. You most certainly did claim that your employers
patented your machines under their company names. See below:
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
Incidentally, you don't "register" a patent. You "apply for" or "are
issued" a patent. You "register" a trademark or copyright. Nice
demonstration that you haven't had much involvement with trademarks,
copyrights and patents.
Tell us exactly WHAT you have ever had to do with copyrights, trademarks or patents?
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:02:54 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 8/28/2024 4:36 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:10:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon Aug 26 16:44:55 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:18:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
the Hewlitt and Packard families are so stinking rich they don't even notice the excessive taxation.
If they don't notice it, it's obviously not "excessive".
If the working class notices taxes, maybe they should be
reduced.
Does your representative propose making billionaires "notice"
taxes too? (AKA, abolishing loopholes in legislation).
Or do you think rich people should be exempt?
[]'s
Why don't you move to California and then tell us that it isn't excessive. The filthy stinking rich not CARING that they lose and extra $40,000 from their billion dollar a year income doesn't mean it isn't excessive.
Excessive? They probably laugh all the way to the bank. That's
0.004%. Less irritating than a gnat bite. Fire a few thousand or cut
their benefits and blame it on "Excessive Tax". LOL.
Do YOU want to pay 12.5% of your income to the state to do NOTHING?
In Brazil it's 27.5%. For salaries and "self employed".
Basic food (like rice, beans, meat etc) has 40- 50% tax.
Jet-skis. helicopters and small aircraft(usually for smuggling
drugs) are tax free.
Rich people(I mean really rich, not people with a piddly 1-2
million) hardly pay any tax at all.
Right wing regimes are unfair to > 99% of the citizens.
I sometimes wonder why people vote for parties that screw them
over again and again, and then I remember that half the population has
an IQ of under 100 and many others get their news from their
cellphones....
[]'s
Interesting, thank you.
I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has
grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might
say diametrically different) administrations:
"Self employed" here means you work for a firm but have no
benefits at all. You have to pay your retirement, health costs, food, eventual injuries etc. And you can be fired at any time.
Also, you don't have the right to a minimum wage. The road
sweepers in our town are "self employed" and make around 110 dollars a
month. That was illegal before the 2015-2026 coup.
The minimum wage currently is US$ 280 a month for a 44 hour
week.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/
Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present
administration, similar to the US regime effect:
https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram
Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker
currency effect; shown in USD):
https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL
[click 'line chart' and 'exports']
So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so
perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I
don't know that.
Brazil is growing, but very slowly. The Central Bank was
"privatized" by Bolsonaro and the Federal Government has to pay over
6% interest(over inflation) on the National Debt Bolsonaro left
behind. Around 95% of our GNP.
But life is better, unemployment is down, wages increased and
our poverty is diminishing.
I can't see your links under this OS, it's too hardened. I
check them out on Linux tomorrow.
TY
[]'s
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:10:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Do YOU want to pay 12.5% of your income to the state to do NOTHING? Roads are NOT repaired,
I provided you with a web page full of Caltrans road and construction projects. You seem to be a non-believer and exist only to convert
reality into customized lies.
"The 2024-25 Budget. Transportation Budget Solutions" <https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/4854>
"State funding primarily comes from various fuel taxes and vehicle
fees that are dedicated to specific transportation purposes. In
2024-25, total state transportation funding from these sources is
estimated to be $14.6 billion. (This does not include revenues from
vehicle fees that support the Department of Motor Vehicles and the
California Highway Patrol.) Most of this funding is dedicated to
maintaining, rehabilitating, and improving state highways and local
streets and roads, with a smaller amount supporting transit operations
and capital improvements."
Is $14.6 billion dollars enough, or do you want the roads paved in
gold?
(This is the third year of Redwood Road having a 50 foot deep hole entirely wiping the road out.)
<https://www.acpwa.org/about-us/roadclosure.page>
Looks like Redwood Rd in Castro Valley is closed indefinitely due to a
large sinkhole. Yep, it looks bad:
"Massive sinkhole in Castro Valley" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DBs4iI31Sg> (0:22)
"That road will stay closed until further notice"
That was on Jan 1, 2023, which was 1 year and 8 months ago, not 3
years ago.
Also, in order to pay 12.3% (not 12.5%) of my income to the State of California, I would need to be in the highest income bracket which
earns over $698,271. <https://www.hrblock.com/tax-center/filing/states/california-tax-rates/> That's more than even you claim to make.
Try really hard not to waste everyone's time with your erroneous and worthless fabrications.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:10:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon Aug 26 16:44:55 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:18:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
the Hewlitt and Packard families are so stinking rich they don't even notice the excessive taxation.
If they don't notice it, it's obviously not "excessive".
If the working class notices taxes, maybe they should be
reduced.
Does your representative propose making billionaires "notice"
taxes too? (AKA, abolishing loopholes in legislation).
Or do you think rich people should be exempt?
[]'s
Why don't you move to California and then tell us that it isn't excessive. The filthy stinking rich not CARING that they lose and extra $40,000 from their billion dollar a year income doesn't mean it isn't excessive.
Excessive? They probably laugh all the way to the bank. That's
0.004%. Less irritating than a gnat bite. Fire a few thousand or cut
their benefits and blame it on "Excessive Tax". LOL.
Do YOU want to pay 12.5% of your income to the state to do NOTHING?
In Brazil it's 27.5%. For salaries and "self employed".
Basic food (like rice, beans, meat etc) has 40- 50% tax.
Jet-skis. helicopters and small aircraft(usually for smuggling
drugs) are tax free.
Rich people(I mean really rich, not people with a piddly 1-2
million) hardly pay any tax at all.
Right wing regimes are unfair to > 99% of the citizens.
I sometimes wonder why people vote for parties that screw them
over again and again, and then I remember that half the population has
an IQ of under 100 and many others get their news from their
cellphones....
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:28:05 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue Aug 27 10:57:16 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:54:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Dumbass, I never said that any company patented machines I designed.
I beg to differ. You most certainly did claim that your employers
patented your machines under their company names. See below:
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
Incidentally, you don't "register" a patent. You "apply for" or "are
issued" a patent. You "register" a trademark or copyright. Nice
demonstration that you haven't had much involvement with trademarks,
copyrights and patents.
Tell us exactly WHAT you have ever had to do with copyrights, trademarks or patents?
Nice change of subject. We were discussing YOUR claim that your
employers patented your inventions without giving you credit.
Experience is a good thing to have and does enhance credibility.
However, my experience or lack of experience doesn't change that you
misuse technical terms, haven't bothered to lookup the correct
technical terms, and lie about employers having patented your
inventions. If they did, you should be able to find the relevant
patent numbers. What did you invent that was patented by your
employers? Patent number please, not vague descriptions. The
companies to which you assigned those patents should be on your list
of employers as found on your resume. <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/experience/>
Don't bother claiming you worked for ETEC, NASA, Analog Devices,
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, Sandia National Laboratories, etc. You didn't work for
them or they would be on your resume: <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/dJ8N0EjcWfc/m/V591UPMKAQAJ> This will be the 3rd time I've asked you for the patent numbers of
whatever you allegedly invented.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:02:54 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 8/28/2024 4:36 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:10:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon Aug 26 16:44:55 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:18:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
the Hewlitt and Packard families are so stinking rich they don't even notice the excessive taxation.
If they don't notice it, it's obviously not "excessive".
If the working class notices taxes, maybe they should be
reduced.
Does your representative propose making billionaires "notice"
taxes too? (AKA, abolishing loopholes in legislation).
Or do you think rich people should be exempt?
[]'s
Why don't you move to California and then tell us that it isn't excessive. The filthy stinking rich not CARING that they lose and extra $40,000 from their billion dollar a year income doesn't mean it isn't excessive.
Excessive? They probably laugh all the way to the bank. That's
0.004%. Less irritating than a gnat bite. Fire a few thousand or cut
their benefits and blame it on "Excessive Tax". LOL.
Do YOU want to pay 12.5% of your income to the state to do NOTHING?
In Brazil it's 27.5%. For salaries and "self employed".
Basic food (like rice, beans, meat etc) has 40- 50% tax.
Jet-skis. helicopters and small aircraft(usually for smuggling
drugs) are tax free.
Rich people(I mean really rich, not people with a piddly 1-2
million) hardly pay any tax at all.
Right wing regimes are unfair to > 99% of the citizens.
I sometimes wonder why people vote for parties that screw them
over again and again, and then I remember that half the population has
an IQ of under 100 and many others get their news from their
cellphones....
[]'s
Interesting, thank you.
I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has
grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might
say diametrically different) administrations:
"Self employed" here means you work for a firm but have no
benefits at all. You have to pay your retirement, health costs, food, eventual injuries etc. And you can be fired at any time.
Also, you don't have the right to a minimum wage. The road
sweepers in our town are "self employed" and make around 110 dollars a
month. That was illegal before the 2015-2026 coup.
The minimum wage currently is US$ 280 a month for a 44 hour
week.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/
Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present
administration, similar to the US regime effect:
https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram
Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker
currency effect; shown in USD):
https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL
[click 'line chart' and 'exports']
So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so
perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I
don't know that.
Brazil is growing, but very slowly. The Central Bank was
"privatized" by Bolsonaro and the Federal Government has to pay over
6% interest(over inflation) on the National Debt Bolsonaro left
behind. Around 95% of our GNP.
But life is better, unemployment is down, wages increased and
our poverty is diminishing.
I can't see your links under this OS, it's too hardened. I
check them out on Linux tomorrow.
TY
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
On 8/28/2024 5:50 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:02:54 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 8/28/2024 4:36 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:10:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon Aug 26 16:44:55 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:18:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
the Hewlitt and Packard families are so stinking rich they don't even notice the excessive taxation.
If they don't notice it, it's obviously not "excessive".
If the working class notices taxes, maybe they should be
reduced.
Does your representative propose making billionaires "notice" >>>>> taxes too? (AKA, abolishing loopholes in legislation).
Or do you think rich people should be exempt?
[]'s
Why don't you move to California and then tell us that it isn't excessive. The filthy stinking rich not CARING that they lose and extra $40,000 from their billion dollar a year income doesn't mean it isn't excessive.
Excessive? They probably laugh all the way to the bank. That's
0.004%. Less irritating than a gnat bite. Fire a few thousand or cut
their benefits and blame it on "Excessive Tax". LOL.
Do YOU want to pay 12.5% of your income to the state to do NOTHING?
In Brazil it's 27.5%. For salaries and "self employed".
Basic food (like rice, beans, meat etc) has 40- 50% tax.
Jet-skis. helicopters and small aircraft(usually for smuggling
drugs) are tax free.
Rich people(I mean really rich, not people with a piddly 1-2
million) hardly pay any tax at all.
Right wing regimes are unfair to > 99% of the citizens.
I sometimes wonder why people vote for parties that screw them
over again and again, and then I remember that half the population has >>> an IQ of under 100 and many others get their news from their
cellphones....
[]'s
Interesting, thank you.
I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has
grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might
say diametrically different) administrations:
"Self employed" here means you work for a firm but have no
benefits at all. You have to pay your retirement, health costs, food, eventual injuries etc. And you can be fired at any time.
Also, you don't have the right to a minimum wage. The road
sweepers in our town are "self employed" and make around 110 dollars a month. That was illegal before the 2015-2026 coup.
The minimum wage currently is US$ 280 a month for a 44 hour
week.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/
Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present
administration, similar to the US regime effect:
https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram
Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker
currency effect; shown in USD):
https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL
[click 'line chart' and 'exports']
So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so
perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I
don't know that.
Brazil is growing, but very slowly. The Central Bank was
"privatized" by Bolsonaro and the Federal Government has to pay over
6% interest(over inflation) on the National Debt Bolsonaro left
behind. Around 95% of our GNP.
But life is better, unemployment is down, wages increased and
our poverty is diminishing.
I can't see your links under this OS, it's too hardened. I
check them out on Linux tomorrow.
TY
[]'s
Again thank you. Standard statistical reporting needs
standard definitions for comparison.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
On 8/28/2024 4:36 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:10:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon Aug 26 16:44:55 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:18:28 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
the Hewlitt and Packard families are so stinking rich they don't even notice the excessive taxation.
If they don't notice it, it's obviously not "excessive".
If the working class notices taxes, maybe they should be
reduced.
Does your representative propose making billionaires "notice"
taxes too? (AKA, abolishing loopholes in legislation).
Or do you think rich people should be exempt?
[]'s
Why don't you move to California and then tell us that it isn't excessive. The filthy stinking rich not CARING that they lose and extra $40,000 from their billion dollar a year income doesn't mean it isn't excessive.
Excessive? They probably laugh all the way to the bank. That's
0.004%. Less irritating than a gnat bite. Fire a few thousand or cut
their benefits and blame it on "Excessive Tax". LOL.
Do YOU want to pay 12.5% of your income to the state to do NOTHING?
In Brazil it's 27.5%. For salaries and "self employed".
Basic food (like rice, beans, meat etc) has 40- 50% tax.
Jet-skis. helicopters and small aircraft(usually for smuggling
drugs) are tax free.
Rich people(I mean really rich, not people with a piddly 1-2
million) hardly pay any tax at all.
Right wing regimes are unfair to > 99% of the citizens.
I sometimes wonder why people vote for parties that screw them
over again and again, and then I remember that half the population has
an IQ of under 100 and many others get their news from their
cellphones....
[]'s
Interesting, thank you.
I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has
grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might
say diametrically different) administrations:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/
Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present
administration, similar to the US regime effect:
https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram
Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker
currency effect; shown in USD):
https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL
[click 'line chart' and 'exports']
So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so
perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I
don't know that.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Do YOU wantr to lose 12.5% of your income to a state that does nothing but build a train to nowhere?
I lready told you that your citations are blocked by BitDefender
because your computer is full of viruses.
Then by all means offer me a complete quote of my claim that I had the slightest desire for any credit for doing my assigned job.
I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has
grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might
say diametrically different) administrations:
"Self employed" here means you work for a firm but have no
benefits at all. You have to pay your retirement, health costs, food,
eventual injuries etc. And you can be fired at any time.
Also, you don't have the right to a minimum wage. The road
sweepers in our town are "self employed" and make around 110 dollars a
month. That was illegal before the 2015-2026 coup.
The minimum wage currently is US$ 280 a month for a 44 hour
week.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/
Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present
administration, similar to the US regime effect:
https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram
Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker
currency effect; shown in USD):
https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL
[click 'line chart' and 'exports']
So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so
perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I
don't know that.
Brazil is growing, but very slowly. The Central Bank was
"privatized" by Bolsonaro and the Federal Government has to pay over
6% interest(over inflation) on the National Debt Bolsonaro left
behind. Around 95% of our GNP.
But life is better, unemployment is down, wages increased and
our poverty is diminishing.
I can't see your links under this OS, it's too hardened. I
check them out on Linux tomorrow.
--TY
[]'s
Again thank you. Standard statistical reporting needs
standard definitions for comparison.
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:59:08 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has
grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might
say diametrically different) administrations:
"Self employed" here means you work for a firm but have no
benefits at all. You have to pay your retirement, health costs, food,
eventual injuries etc. And you can be fired at any time.
Also, you don't have the right to a minimum wage. The road
sweepers in our town are "self employed" and make around 110 dollars a
month. That was illegal before the 2015-2026 coup.
The minimum wage currently is US$ 280 a month for a 44 hour
week.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/
Paywall. ~US$ 200 and I had to give credit card details....
Maybe it's a Brazilian thing or else you have a subscription.
Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present
administration, similar to the US regime effect:
https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram
Very similar to the US.
Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker
currency effect; shown in USD):
https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL
Exports at the end of Bolsonaro's regime were practically the
same as before the coup. It was a "lost" 7 years.
2023 was the first year of recovery. Looks like 2024 will be
even better.
Brazil was the 7th largest economy in the World prior to the
coup. It slid to 12th. Can't blame COVID because all countries had
COVID.
If you look at Argentina's data and compare it with this
#FAKE_NEWS article:
<https://web.archive.org/web/20240807093445/https://nypost.com/2024/06/20/opinion/argentinas-milei-miracle-proves-the-failure-of-socialism/>
... you will see why people that vote based on the "news" they
get from their cellphones always pick the worst candidates....
(I archived it because #FAKE_NEWS tends to disappear).
[click 'line chart' and 'exports']
So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so
perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I
don't know that.
Brazil is growing, but very slowly. The Central Bank was
"privatized" by Bolsonaro and the Federal Government has to pay over
6% interest(over inflation) on the National Debt Bolsonaro left
behind. Around 95% of our GNP.
But life is better, unemployment is down, wages increased and
our poverty is diminishing.
I can't see your links under this OS, it's too hardened. I
check them out on Linux tomorrow.
Done...
TY
[]'s
Again thank you. Standard statistical reporting needs
standard definitions for comparison.
On Wed Aug 28 14:01:00 2024 AMuzi wrote:
On 8/28/2024 1:31 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 28 07:54:51 2024 John B. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:57:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:54:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Dumbass, I never said that any company patented machines I designed. >>>>>I beg to differ. You most certainly did claim that your employers
patented your machines under their company names. See below:
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products - >>>>>>> my inventions under their names."
Incidentally, you don't "register" a patent. You "apply for" or "are >>>>> issued" a patent. You "register" a trademark or copyright. Nice
demonstration that you haven't had much involvement with trademarks, >>>>> copyrights and patents.
But a VAST amount of experience in telling lies :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
John, stilol mad because I called you on your "important" job of being a crew chief of a bomber that was never active. It was used for photoreconisance? That's NOT A BOMBER is it?
I can't recall which aircraft but the vintage aircraft fans
document everything well, easily found.
B50 was it?
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/boeing-b-50-superfortress-us-air-forces-forgotten-bomber-208546
Note page headline 'forgotten bomber' which implies you are
not alone.
At any rate why ever would you doubt Mr Slocumb's word? And
what difference would it make? sheesh your demons are really
alive today it seems,
Don't believe that. As a NUCLEAR deterent, the B47 was the online plane until the B52A. The B47 was initially flown and released to production at the same time. The B50 was nothing more than a B29 with larger motors and less reliability. The B52J isabout to be released. Modified B52H's with commercial jet engines and entirely changed weapons systems. Long range nuclear drones. We also have hypersonic missles in space. I don't believe these to be nuclear but they can hit virtually any spot on the
Old airplane buffs take a lot for granted. They tend to have very poor memories. John as crew chief, if he had a memory anymore, could tell you that every flight had dozens of "write ups" indicating repairs necessary. The basic airframe was reliable.They were crap for photoreconasance since they didn't have the ceiling and any jet fighter of the time could run them down an blow them out of the air. Hell, Even an SR71 was shot down and they flew in near space. It was a vacuum outside of them. You
On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 00:09:03 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Then by all means offer me a complete quote of my claim that I had the slightest desire for any credit for doing my assigned job.
I've done that several times. I've lost count, but I guess this is
the 4th copy of your quote:
(Aug 31, 2023) <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ> "The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
That sure sounds like you didn't like the idea of not getting credit
for your "inventions".
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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 15:57:29 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:about to be released. Modified B52H's with commercial jet engines and entirely changed weapons systems. Long range nuclear drones. We also have hypersonic missles in space. I don't believe these to be nuclear but they can hit virtually any spot on the
On 8/29/2024 3:41 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 28 14:01:00 2024 AMuzi wrote:
On 8/28/2024 1:31 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 28 07:54:51 2024 John B. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:57:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:54:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>> wrote:
Dumbass, I never said that any company patented machines I designed. >>>>>>I beg to differ. You most certainly did claim that your employers >>>>>> patented your machines under their company names. See below:
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products - >>>>>>>> my inventions under their names."
Incidentally, you don't "register" a patent. You "apply for" or "are >>>>>> issued" a patent. You "register" a trademark or copyright. Nice >>>>>> demonstration that you haven't had much involvement with trademarks, >>>>>> copyrights and patents.
But a VAST amount of experience in telling lies :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
John, stilol mad because I called you on your "important" job of being a crew chief of a bomber that was never active. It was used for photoreconisance? That's NOT A BOMBER is it?
I can't recall which aircraft but the vintage aircraft fans
document everything well, easily found.
B50 was it?
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/boeing-b-50-superfortress-us-air-forces-forgotten-bomber-208546
Note page headline 'forgotten bomber' which implies you are
not alone.
At any rate why ever would you doubt Mr Slocumb's word? And
what difference would it make? sheesh your demons are really
alive today it seems,
Don't believe that. As a NUCLEAR deterent, the B47 was the online plane until the B52A. The B47 was initially flown and released to production at the same time. The B50 was nothing more than a B29 with larger motors and less reliability. The B52J is
They were crap for photoreconasance since they didn't have the ceiling and any jet fighter of the time could run them down an blow them out of the air. Hell, Even an SR71 was shot down and they flew in near space. It was a vacuum outside of them. You
Old airplane buffs take a lot for granted. They tend to have very poor memories. John as crew chief, if he had a memory anymore, could tell you that every flight had dozens of "write ups" indicating repairs necessary. The basic airframe was reliable.
So now you're saying B50 is indeed a bomber and you'll
concede Mr Slocumb crewed them but No True Scotsman would
take one over a B52 in a nuclear exchange.
Do I have that right?
p.s.
Regarding your SR71 Red Herring, no SR71 was ever shot down.
None. Zip. Nada.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/even-4000-miles-could-not-take-down-sr-71-blackbird-207945
"Despite being targeted by over 4,000 enemy missiles, no
SR-71 was ever lost to hostile fire."
And what's probably even worse for Tommy's ego is that I was appointed
a crew chief on a RB-50 when we returned from the atomic tests at
Enewetak where the squadron received a real "pat on the head" for
flown every mission successfully.
While Tommy's, from his own admission, greatest aid to atomic war was carrying the tool bag for a competent technician working on airplanes carrying conventional bombs :-)
.
--
Cheers,
John B.
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 23:20:27 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I lready told you that your citations are blocked by BitDefender
because your computer is full of viruses.
That's a good excuse for you to claim that you don't read my
references. That's fine, because I don't provide them for your
benefit, which would be a waste of my time. They are for the other
readers of RBT[1] who might have an interest in knowing the truth
instead of drowning in your lies and fabrications. The references are
also for me, for when someone asks an intelligent question and I need
to dig deeper. If you prefer to ignore reality, blaming your alleged inability (or more likely your unwillingness) to read my references on BitOffender or viruses is fine with me. I'm not surprised that your
computer is very much like your bicycles, with numerous defective
parts, chronic malfunctions, parts that don't fit, stretching cables,
repair failures, etc. If you want to bask in the glory of your
stupidity and incompetence for all to see, that's also fine with me.
They're all part of living in the hell of your own creation.
[1] I counted how many individuals have posted more than one message
to RBT in the previous 2 months. I count 17 (including myself).
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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 23:37:58 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Do YOU wantr to lose 12.5% of your income to a state that does nothing but build a train to nowhere?
I'd rather have a train to nowhere than have the government
destroy railways. Here is Brazil private steel and truck-manufacturing companies won the privatization bid(AKA paid the largest bribes), then
ripped up most the tracks for the iron, sold all the eucalyptus that
was planted along the railways, and fired all the employees.
Most of the trains that remain are used for transporting iron
ore. They don't accept passengers or third party freight.
Almost all freight is done by road now. What was once cheap is
now very expensive.
Wikipedia:
//
Currently the country's rail network is almost entirely used for heavy freight transport only, all of the electrification of routes which
were used for intercity passenger trains in broad gauge lines in S?o
Paulo (state) are completely dismantled, as well as most of the train stations that are now in ruins (some were refurbished and are used as museums, government facilities and other purposes). Much of the
dual-track lines are also abandoned, with trains making use of only
one track now, most of which are in a very basic state of maintenance, running at very slow speeds. The lines and branch lines which were
used for passenger only, the current cargo companies had no interest
in, and are now completely abandoned. Brazil today has only a few
heritage railways and two long-distance trains operated by Vale on
narrow gauge that are more of a tourist attraction because of the
scenic journey than a transportation system, especially because of the
slow operating speed (60 km/h maximum), making Brazil's land public transportation infrastructure one of the worst and slowest in the
world.
//
PS A train is not to "nowhere" forever. It's cheap transport.
Factories will appear and with them communities and commerce. Land in "nowhere" is cheap. A good investment.
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:41:01 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 28 14:01:00 2024 AMuzi wrote:job of being a crew chief of a bomber that was never active. It was
On 8/28/2024 1:31 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 28 07:54:51 2024 John B. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:57:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >> >> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:54:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Dumbass, I never said that any company patented machines I designed. >> >>>I beg to differ. You most certainly did claim that your employers
patented your machines under their company names. See below:
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products - >> >>>>> my inventions under their names."
Incidentally, you don't "register" a patent. You "apply for" or "are >> >>> issued" a patent. You "register" a trademark or copyright. Nice
demonstration that you haven't had much involvement with trademarks, >> >>> copyrights and patents.
But a VAST amount of experience in telling lies :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
John, stilol mad because I called you on your "important"
used for photoreconisance? That's NOT A BOMBER is it?
I can't recall which aircraft but the vintage aircraft fans
document everything well, easily found.
B50 was it?
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/boeing-b-50-superfortress-us-air-forces-forgotten-bomber-208546
Note page headline 'forgotten bomber' which implies you are
not alone.
At any rate why ever would you doubt Mr Slocumb's word? And
what difference would it make? sheesh your demons are really
alive today it seems,
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
about to be released. Modified B52H's with commercial jet engines and entirely changed weapons systems. Long range nuclear drones. We also have hypersonic missles in space. I don't believe these to be nuclear but they can hit virtually any spot on theDon't believe that. As a NUCLEAR deterent, the was the online plane until the B52A. The B47 was initially flown and released to production at the same time. The B50 was nothing more than a B29 with larger motors and less reliability. The B52J is
What in the world does Nuclear have to do with recon missions flown upThey were crap for photoreconasance since they didn't have the ceiling and any jet fighter of the time could run them down an blow them out of the air. Hell, Even an SR71 was shot down and they flew in near space. It was a vacuum outside of them. You
and down the Chinese coast?
Tommy, you are loosing it again.
Old airplane buffs take a lot for granted. They tend to have very poor memories. John as crew chief, if he had a memory anymore, could tell you that every flight had dozens of "write ups" indicating repairs necessary. The basic airframe was reliable.
And silly old Tommy strikes again. https://shopvalorgear.com/blogs/blog/sr-71-pilot-bill-weaver-bailed-out-at-mach-3-15-78-000-feet?srsltid=AfmBOoqX7QnGGkn1yY6FIy8PTt49ynrQL1JlWDhjwq33_sNgOulqt08q
In 1966 (that's nearly 60 years ago) two guys flying at MACH 3.15, at
78,000 ft. bailed out of a SR-71.
Successfully :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
John, my uncle built the bomb tower on Enewetak.
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:31:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 28 07:54:51 2024 John B. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:57:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:54:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Dumbass, I never said that any company patented machines I designed.
I beg to differ. You most certainly did claim that your employers
patented your machines under their company names. See below:
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products - >> >>> my inventions under their names."
Incidentally, you don't "register" a patent. You "apply for" or "are
issued" a patent. You "register" a trademark or copyright. Nice
demonstration that you haven't had much involvement with trademarks,
copyrights and patents.
But a VAST amount of experience in telling lies :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
John, stilol mad because I called you on your"important" job of being a crew chief of a bomber that was never
active. It was used for photoreconisance? That's NOT A BOMBER is it?
Yup, I don't believe that the B-50 was ever used to drop bombs and the
RB-50 was used for recognizance.
But "The activities of this unit during the 1950s and 1960s
are still classified, however it is suspected that the unit was the
Pacific Air Forces counterpart of the USAFE 7406th Support Squadron
which participated in overt and covert
reconnaissance throughout Europe during the Cold War. Indeed, the
squadron operated the same type of aircraft as its USAFE counterpart."
While your contribution to the war effort was to carry the tool bag
for an A1C for a few months.
--
Cheers,
John B.
On 8/27/2024 1:34 PM, cyclintom wrote:salesx area.
On Mon Aug 26 18:33:27 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/26/2024 11:49 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Aug 22 09:59:45 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 6:23 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 21 16:59:22 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/21/2024 1:43 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Aug 19 17:10:14 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/19/2024 4:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 13:52:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/18/2024 10:48 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Aug 18 09:17:47 2024 zen cycle wrote:
On 8/17/2024 7:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Apparently my letter to judicial watch had some effect on Facebook. They didn't restore my account but allowed me to opem a new one when faced with the loss of their 501(c)(3) status. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post to the
wow...
no, tom, any letter which you allegedly wrote to Judicial Watch was more
than likely ignored by them.
Your account with facebook was never closed. You were trying to access
it with the wrong credentials. It's that simple.
And facebook is _not_ a 501c3 non-profit. It's always been a for-profit
company, now publicly traded.
Like your poretense of being an electronics engineer (living a lifetime as a QC paperwork wonk), you really should tell us all you know about Facebook which is exactly nothing as your skills as a programmer.
I very clearly know vastly more about facebook than you do, since you
couldn't figure out how to access an active account and are under some
delusion they are a non-profit.
You show over abnd over that you know nothing. Stop pretending to.Facebook did NOT reopen my account.
Of course they didn't reopen it. They never closed it to begin with. >>>>>>>>
They allowed me to open a new one. And this no doubt in response to a letter reminding them of their responsibilities under the law.
You go ahead and make believe they caved to the pressure of a sternly
worded letter from you (lol).
I don't HAVE to remember passwords since my system automatically does that, You knowing nothing about programming are probably mystified.
It wasn't your password, dumbass, it was your email address. You were
trying to log in using a different one than you created the account >>>>>>>> with, hence 'there is no account associated with that email address'.
And they aren't a non-profit company. If you think they are post a link
to a reference showing their 501c3 status.
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So besides telling me that Aabbot isn't leaving their overly taxed sites in Alameda, now you're talling me that my automatic login is wrong.
You had an automatic login for facebook? That's pretty stupid. If that's
how you manager your personal security it's no wonder that your email >>>>>> keeps getting hacked.
No wonder you need a head of assemblers to tell you what to do. >>>>>>"head of assemblers"? lol...Now I know you've never done more tan push a
broom.
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I knows that you have no idea about personal security
Said the rube who complains incessantly about his personal data getting >>>> hacked
since you assemblers usually on do what you're told or get fired like you were from your last job.
I've never been fired. You would know way more about that than me.
I suppose that's why you value staying at a company forever.
Yup, it's called job security - something you've never had.
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They don't usually fire assemblers.
You would know
I was fired once for trying to get rid of a problem area.
Correction, you were fired _to_ get rid of the problem
Because they fired me and kept that problem manager, they went out of business within a month of getting rid of me.
And what company was this? Because you've been bragging for years that
some idiot VP kept following you around to throw more money at you. Are
you sure it wasn't' the company that fired you for rifling through the
HR office records after hours?
That company was paying me a quarter of a million a year and should have listened. Instead, the investors lost their money.
Anyone that would consider paying you more than minimum wage would be
better off just burning their money.
QC paperwoek wonks do not have the power to make changes in companies. You cry on someone's shoulder.
Fubnny, because I can, and have, ordered a stop-ship of products that
weren't meeting HazLoc requirements.
Tell us again that it is "Facial Recognician"
There isn't any such thing as Facial "recognician".
> and that it is legal to use it as evidence when it is unconstitutional.
Facial recognition is perfectly admissible as evidence, I've posted
several links discussing that. I challange you to post anything where a
court has declared it unconstitutional, dumbass.
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people that don't know words me but only how to spell them it means that there are NO special cases in the confrontation clause.You are an idiot and know too little to even brag about being a paperwork wonk. People complain about spelling because they have nothing else in their heeads.
Your pretense of knowing other than how to sign your name on paperwork is comical.
I courts don't HAVE to declare it unconstitutional you moron. It is the Confrontation Clause of the 6th Amendment. Lower courts can say ANYTHING THEY LIKE, but the Supreme Court had ALWAYS declared the confrontation clause to be indivisible. To
On the smartest day of your life you make Biden look intelligent.
Not clear to me:
https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-6/
Looks more like part of the (ever changing) rules of
evidence, not unlike lab tests for example:
https://theappeal.org/the-massachusetts-lab-scandals-confronting-the-new-normal-of-mass-error-in-criminal-justice-5b3e4687bb7c/
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Open every day since 1 April, 1971
On 8/30/2024 3:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
 WHAT classified data was EVER declassified without an act
of Congress?
Well, according to your Orange Overlord, he declassified a
bunch of Top Secret documents by just thinking about them!
Don't tell me you're skeptical about that!
On 8/30/2024 9:32 PM, AMuzi wrote:
In the prior President's case, the notorious FBI
photographs were staged...
:-) Ah, of course!  :-)
On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:33:38 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
John, my uncle built the bomb tower on Enewetak. Tell us what YOU did rather than the crew of an RB50 who progbably all died of cancer.
No Tommy your Uncle didn't build the bomb tower at "Enewetak". The
bomb tower(s) were at Bikini. At Enewetak there were all air drops.
On 8/30/2024 9:32 PM, AMuzi wrote:
In the prior President's case, the notorious FBI photographs were staged...
:-) Ah, of course! :-)
On 8/30/2024 7:51 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/30/2024 3:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
WHAT classified data was EVER declassified without an act
of Congress?
Well, according to your Orange Overlord, he declassified a
bunch of Top Secret documents by just thinking about them!
Don't tell me you're skeptical about that!
Congress has no direct part in decisions to classify or
declassify.
Their part was to pass legislation for the executive branch
decisions, protocols, apparatus, archives and so on.
The President has plenary power over
classification/declassification in theory. In practice, it's
all delegated and he never sees them except in extreme
situations. There's a huge army of people involved in
several levels of storage, retrieval, editing/redacting
copies, access (who, where, when and what), record keeping
on each of those actions and so on. It's very complex in the
day to day workings, to which as anyone with any sort of
clearance will attest. And carp about.
18 US Code 793 for the interested reader.
p.s. in the recent news, Mr Biden, as Senator, committed a
crime by removing classified materials from a Senate SCIF.
He committed another crime by storing them at home and in
his offices in an unsecured manner. He committed another
crime by moving them to his archive at U Penn (funded by the
Chinese government and allowing no access to researchers,
archivists, historians, reporters etc).
He may have an argument for materials stolen as Vice
President, although the statutes do not explicitly say so.
He could try an argument from Constitutional authority, that
a VP candidate must satisfy all requirements of a President
and stretch that to classified materials access so he's
'ready' should a bullet make it so. This argument is
considered a long shot but I am not an expert. Looking only
at the Statutes, he's guilty of stealing classified
materials and 'mishandling' which is the more serious charge.
In the prior President's case, the notorious FBI photographs
were staged and show many boxes of materials in relative
disarray with many 'Top Secret' covers prominently shown.
The FBI brought those covers along for the staged photos.
Actual classified materials were 18 items and summed to a
couple hundred pages in total. Under our Statutes the
President may classify or declassify whatever he feels is
necessary or best on any given day.
On 8/30/2024 10:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/30/2024 8:36 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:The relevant fact is that the huge volume was in the
On 8/30/2024 9:32 PM, AMuzi wrote:
In the prior President's case, the notorious FBI
photographs were staged...
:-) Ah, of course!  :-)
Do you imply that the New York Times lied?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/31/us/politics/trump-photo-classified- documents.html
"The folders were arrayed by agents at Mar-a-Lago after
being removed from what the filing indicated was Mr.
Trump’s office — they were not discovered scattered on the
floor, according to two federal law enforcement officials."
Mar-A-Lago complex, period.
On 8/16/2024 5:02 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Fri Aug 16 14:39:10 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/16/2024 10:08 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Fri Aug 16 00:03:44 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:Any normal person would be embarrassed to scold someone for calling out
Krygowski, any normal person would be ashamed to say the things you do. >>
their spelling mistakes when the vast majority of text UIs have spell
checkers.
In one sentence you complain about my spelling and the way that nearly everyone rides.
Is it really your contention that every rider always accelerates at or
near maximum?
Maybe we should set up a poll here to see who actually does that?
I'm sure everyone who would agree with Tom on that point has already
posted.
Do uou have any idea how srupid you sound? What is UIs? Is that the result of your wonderful spelling checker?
:-) Ah, Tom! "What is UIs?" is classic. You're _so_ knowledgeable!
--
- Frank Krygowski
On 8/16/2024 5:02 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Fri Aug 16 14:39:10 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
Any normal person would be embarrassed to scold someone for calling out
Krygowski, any normal person would be ashamed to say the things you do. >>
their spelling mistakes when the vast majority of text UIs have spell
checkers.
In one sentence you complain about my spelling and the way that nearly everyone rides.
Is it really your contention that every rider always accelerates at or
near maximum?
Maybe we should set up a poll here to see who actually does that?
Or maybe tommy _did_ mean to type 'accekerated', and 'accekerated' has
some other meaning in tommys alternate universe.
Tell me Ms. Bullshit, what grade did you get in the spelling bee in
the third grade. It must have been an A and you're so proud of that that >> you cannot let anyone else forget it. No wonder you were fired as a
plant engineer. You really found your calling as a teacher able to mark
a perfect paper down because it transposed an l and a k which are right
next to each other on a keyboard.
Wait - you better check that entire "rant" for typos. It might put you in the superior position you believe you deserve.
Or, you could just run spellcheck before you send a message and save
yourself the embarrassment.
--
Add xx to reply
Do uou have any idea how srupid you sound?
much less stupid than someone who posts "Do uou have any idea how srupid
you sound?"
What is UIs?
UI = User Interface
UIs = User Interfaces
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface
"a user interface (UI) is the space where interactions between humans
and machines occur."
Some much for your claim of being a world-class software engineer.
Is that the result of your wonderful spelling checker? > I guess that you don't run a spelling checker on your postings.
I do, and I had to tell it to accept the initialism
Tell us again how people that have a different job every year can't know what they're doing?
I never claimed that. I wrote that people who switch jobs every year are
a big red flag to employers. I've met a number of brilliant engineers
that were impossible to work with and either left or were fired in short order. That's you, except for the "brilliant engineer" part.
I suppose that is why I'm pretty well off
Liar, By your own admission:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/hicB2nXjlr4/m/G2axqs0k_IwJ
cycl...@yahoo.com Aug 9, 2013, 11:11:36?AM
" Trouble is that while I was out of it I sold or gave away almost my
entire bicycle collection. And all of my wardrobe and most of my tools!
And now on Social Security I have to VERY slowly make it up."
and you can't afford a real bike.
lol...that's from the guy doesn't ride anything newer than 20 years old
and can't afford a new bike.
To bad you're a midget or I would sell you a good bike for a reasonable price that you MIGHT be able to afford.
That you built? with all the problems that you continually post you
have? no thanks, I'd rather trust my life to backyard moonshine that
straddle anything you touched.
The Fondriest is all Campy Record with Vento wheels.
and the chain keeps falling off.
It is steel and weighs 20.5 lbs. That's probably too heavy for a midget.
If you think that's impressing anyone, you're more deluded than I though.
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:59:08 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has
grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might
say diametrically different) administrations:
"Self employed" here means you work for a firm but have no
benefits at all. You have to pay your retirement, health costs, food,
eventual injuries etc. And you can be fired at any time.
Also, you don't have the right to a minimum wage. The road
sweepers in our town are "self employed" and make around 110 dollars a
month. That was illegal before the 2015-2026 coup.
The minimum wage currently is US$ 280 a month for a 44 hour
week.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/
Paywall. ~US$ 200 and I had to give credit card details....
Maybe it's a Brazilian thing or else you have a subscription.
Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present
administration, similar to the US regime effect:
https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram
Very similar to the US.
Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker
currency effect; shown in USD):
https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL
Exports at the end of Bolsonaro's regime were practically the
same as before the coup. It was a "lost" 7 years.
2023 was the first year of recovery. Looks like 2024 will be
even better.
Brazil was the 7th largest economy in the World prior to the
coup. It slid to 12th. Can't blame COVID because all countries had
COVID.
If you look at Argentina's data and compare it with this
#FAKE_NEWS article:
<https://web.archive.org/web/20240807093445/https://nypost.com/2024/06/20/opinion/argentinas-milei-miracle-proves-the-failure-of-socialism/>
... you will see why people that vote based on the "news" they
get from their cellphones always pick the worst candidates....
(I archived it because #FAKE_NEWS tends to disappear).
[click 'line chart' and 'exports']
So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so
perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I
don't know that.
Brazil is growing, but very slowly. The Central Bank was
"privatized" by Bolsonaro and the Federal Government has to pay over
6% interest(over inflation) on the National Debt Bolsonaro left
behind. Around 95% of our GNP.
But life is better, unemployment is down, wages increased and
our poverty is diminishing.
I can't see your links under this OS, it's too hardened. I
check them out on Linux tomorrow.
Done...
TY
[]'s
Again thank you. Standard statistical reporting needs--
standard definitions for comparison.
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:50:59 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>about to be released. Modified B52H's with commercial jet engines and entirely changed weapons systems. Long range nuclear drones. We also have hypersonic missles in space. I don't believe these to be nuclear but they can hit virtually any spot on the
wrote:
On Fri Aug 30 07:02:48 2024 John B. wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:41:01 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 28 14:01:00 2024 AMuzi wrote:job of being a crew chief of a bomber that was never active. It was
On 8/28/2024 1:31 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Wed Aug 28 07:54:51 2024 John B. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:57:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:54:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >> >> >>> wrote:
Dumbass, I never said that any company patented machines I designed.
I beg to differ. You most certainly did claim that your employers >> >> >>> patented your machines under their company names. See below:
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
Incidentally, you don't "register" a patent. You "apply for" or "are
issued" a patent. You "register" a trademark or copyright. Nice >> >> >>> demonstration that you haven't had much involvement with trademarks,
copyrights and patents.
But a VAST amount of experience in telling lies :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
John, stilol mad because I called you on your "important"
used for photoreconisance? That's NOT A BOMBER is it?
I can't recall which aircraft but the vintage aircraft fans
document everything well, easily found.
B50 was it?
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/boeing-b-50-superfortress-us-air-forces-forgotten-bomber-208546
Note page headline 'forgotten bomber' which implies you are
not alone.
At any rate why ever would you doubt Mr Slocumb's word? And
what difference would it make? sheesh your demons are really
alive today it seems,
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Don't believe that. As a NUCLEAR deterent, the was the online plane until the B52A. The B47 was initially flown and released to production at the same time. The B50 was nothing more than a B29 with larger motors and less reliability. The B52J is
reliable. They were crap for photoreconasance since they didn't have the ceiling and any jet fighter of the time could run them down an blow them out of the air. Hell, Even an SR71 was shot down and they flew in near space. It was a vacuum outside of
What in the world does Nuclear have to do with recon missions flown up
and down the Chinese coast?
Tommy, you are loosing it again.
Old airplane buffs take a lot for granted. They tend to have very poor memories. John as crew chief, if he had a memory anymore, could tell you that every flight had dozens of "write ups" indicating repairs necessary. The basic airframe was
And silly old Tommy strikes again.
https://shopvalorgear.com/blogs/blog/sr-71-pilot-bill-weaver-bailed-out-at-mach-3-15-78-000-feet?srsltid=AfmBOoqX7QnGGkn1yY6FIy8PTt49ynrQL1JlWDhjwq33_sNgOulqt08q
In 1966 (that's nearly 60 years ago) two guys flying at MACH 3.15, at
78,000 ft. bailed out of a SR-71.
Successfully :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
Operation Chrome Dome was nuclear equiped B52's flying on the Russian border 24 hours a day every day. I flew on one of those when a launch needed a navigation computer replaced so we would know where that border was. There was a footwell behind theJohn,you are talking about an RB50 which was perfctly safe from China at that time. I was talking about the main nuclear deterence of the US was from B47's flown from airfields in Great Britain and then when we got B52's they were flown from the US.
has nothing more than the title.As for your comments about the data from Enewetak being still classified. WHAT classified data was EVER declassified without an act of Congress? The repair manuals for a B52D are still classified secret and it is a felony to reveal the FACEPAGE that
As usual you are wondering off into space and imagining things. The
RB-50 was used by the 6091st Reconnaissance Squadron with most all
missions "classified" so I can't say to my own knowledge where they
flew but some of them carried Chinese Linguists and some carried
Russian so I assume China Coast and Islands north of Japan. And while
I was with the sqdn, we had one airplane shot down off the Russian
held " Kuril Islands" north of Japan.
--
Cheers,
John B.
On 8/30/2024 7:51 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/30/2024 3:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
WHAT classified data was EVER declassified without an act
of Congress?
Well, according to your Orange Overlord, he declassified a
bunch of Top Secret documents by just thinking about them!
Don't tell me you're skeptical about that!
Congress has no direct part in decisions to classify or
declassify.
Their part was to pass legislation for the executive branch
decisions, protocols, apparatus, archives and so on.
The President has plenary power over
classification/declassification in theory. In practice, it's
all delegated and he never sees them except in extreme
situations. There's a huge army of people involved in
several levels of storage, retrieval, editing/redacting
copies, access (who, where, when and what), record keeping
on each of those actions and so on. It's very complex in the
day to day workings, to which as anyone with any sort of
clearance will attest. And carp about.
18 US Code 793 for the interested reader.
p.s. in the recent news, Mr Biden, as Senator, committed a
crime by removing classified materials from a Senate SCIF.
He committed another crime by storing them at home and in
his offices in an unsecured manner. He committed another
crime by moving them to his archive at U Penn (funded by the
Chinese government and allowing no access to researchers,
archivists, historians, reporters etc).
He may have an argument for materials stolen as Vice
President, although the statutes do not explicitly say so.
He could try an argument from Constitutional authority, that
a VP candidate must satisfy all requirements of a President
and stretch that to classified materials access so he's
'ready' should a bullet make it so. This argument is
considered a long shot but I am not an expert. Looking only
at the Statutes, he's guilty of stealing classified
materials and 'mishandling' which is the more serious charge.
In the prior President's case, the notorious FBI photographs
were staged and show many boxes of materials in relative
disarray with many 'Top Secret' covers prominently shown.
The FBI brought those covers along for the staged photos.
Actual classified materials were 18 items and summed to a
couple hundred pages in total. Under our Statutes the
President may classify or declassify whatever he feels is
necessary or best on any given day.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
On 8/30/2024 9:32 PM, AMuzi wrote:
In the prior President's case, the notorious FBI photographs were staged...
:-) Ah, of course! :-)
--
- Frank Krygowski
On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 20:32:21 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 8/30/2024 7:51 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/30/2024 3:50 PM, cyclintom wrote:
?WHAT classified data was EVER declassified without an act
of Congress?
Well, according to your Orange Overlord, he declassified a
bunch of Top Secret documents by just thinking about them!
Don't tell me you're skeptical about that!
Congress has no direct part in decisions to classify or
declassify.
Their part was to pass legislation for the executive branch
decisions, protocols, apparatus, archives and so on.
The President has plenary power over
classification/declassification in theory. In practice, it's
all delegated and he never sees them except in extreme
situations. There's a huge army of people involved in
several levels of storage, retrieval, editing/redacting
copies, access (who, where, when and what), record keeping
on each of those actions and so on. It's very complex in the
day to day workings, to which as anyone with any sort of
clearance will attest. And carp about.
18 US Code 793 for the interested reader.
p.s. in the recent news, Mr Biden, as Senator, committed a
crime by removing classified materials from a Senate SCIF.
He committed another crime by storing them at home and in
his offices in an unsecured manner. He committed another
crime by moving them to his archive at U Penn (funded by the
Chinese government and allowing no access to researchers,
archivists, historians, reporters etc).
He may have an argument for materials stolen as Vice
President, although the statutes do not explicitly say so.
He could try an argument from Constitutional authority, that
a VP candidate must satisfy all requirements of a President
and stretch that to classified materials access so he's
'ready' should a bullet make it so. This argument is
considered a long shot but I am not an expert. Looking only
at the Statutes, he's guilty of stealing classified
materials and 'mishandling' which is the more serious charge.
In the prior President's case, the notorious FBI photographs
were staged and show many boxes of materials in relative
disarray with many 'Top Secret' covers prominently shown.
The FBI brought those covers along for the staged photos.
Actual classified materials were 18 items and summed to a
couple hundred pages in total. Under our Statutes the
President may classify or declassify whatever he feels is
necessary or best on any given day.
+1
Whereas, I've seen nothing to indicate that the 'Top Secret' covers
were brought to Mara Lago by the FBI, they have now admitted that the
photo was staged, using those covers. UNlike Biden's mishandled
documents, the documents at Mara Lago were under lock and key.
https://www.declassified.live/p/the-dojs-doctored-crime-scene-photo
On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 23:58:45 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Aug 29 07:27:37 2024 John B. wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:31:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Aug 28 07:54:51 2024 John B. wrote:"important" job of being a crew chief of a bomber that was never
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:57:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >> >> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:54:42 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Dumbass, I never said that any company patented machines I designed. >> >> >I beg to differ. You most certainly did claim that your employers
patented your machines under their company names. See below:
On Wed Aug 21 17:36:39 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
(Aug 31, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/YAgynT7Dw2I/m/R6lf39FEAgAJ>
"The companies I worked for registered and patented their products -
my inventions under their names."
Incidentally, you don't "register" a patent. You "apply for" or "are >> >> >issued" a patent. You "register" a trademark or copyright. Nice
demonstration that you haven't had much involvement with trademarks, >> >> >copyrights and patents.
But a VAST amount of experience in telling lies :-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
John, stilol mad because I called you on your
active. It was used for photoreconisance? That's NOT A BOMBER is it?
Yup, I don't believe that the B-50 was ever used to drop bombs and the
RB-50 was used for recognizance.
But "The activities of this unit during the 1950s and 1960s
are still classified, however it is suspected that the unit was the
Pacific Air Forces counterpart of the USAFE 7406th Support Squadron
which participated in overt and covert
reconnaissance throughout Europe during the Cold War. Indeed, the
squadron operated the same type of aircraft as its USAFE counterpart."
While your contribution to the war effort was to carry the tool bag
for an A1C for a few months.
--
Cheers,
John B.
Major, tried to give me an article 15 whatever the base commander said to them made me untouchable. Not because I was imnportant but because THEY were not as important as the mission.John, I am sorry that it hurts your feelings that I am putting a damper on your attempts be self important. When did being in the service make anyone important if they weren't Chief of Staff? When my Chief Master Sergeant and the company commander, a
Did you imaging this? Dream it? Or just tell a lie?
You see Tommy an "Article 15" is a non judicial punishment in which
your Squadron Commander (Usually) reviews the evidence and determines
your guilt for some act. Assuming that he feels that you are guilty
you are then offered a punishment which you can accept or refuse. In
the event you refuse the squadron's punishment then you will be court martialed.
The Base Commender never enters into it.
--
Cheers,
John B.
On Thu Aug 29 09:41:51 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:59:08 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has
grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might
say diametrically different) administrations:
"Self employed" here means you work for a firm but have no
benefits at all. You have to pay your retirement, health costs, food,
eventual injuries etc. And you can be fired at any time.
Also, you don't have the right to a minimum wage. The road
sweepers in our town are "self employed" and make around 110 dollars a >>>> month. That was illegal before the 2015-2026 coup.
The minimum wage currently is US$ 280 a month for a 44 hour
week.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/
Paywall. ~US$ 200 and I had to give credit card details....
Maybe it's a Brazilian thing or else you have a subscription.
Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present
administration, similar to the US regime effect:
https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram
Very similar to the US.
Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker
currency effect; shown in USD):
https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL
Exports at the end of Bolsonaro's regime were practically the
same as before the coup. It was a "lost" 7 years.
2023 was the first year of recovery. Looks like 2024 will be
even better.
Brazil was the 7th largest economy in the World prior to the
coup. It slid to 12th. Can't blame COVID because all countries had
COVID.
If you look at Argentina's data and compare it with this
#FAKE_NEWS article:
<https://web.archive.org/web/20240807093445/https://nypost.com/2024/06/20/opinion/argentinas-milei-miracle-proves-the-failure-of-socialism/>
... you will see why people that vote based on the "news" they
get from their cellphones always pick the worst candidates....
(I archived it because #FAKE_NEWS tends to disappear).
[click 'line chart' and 'exports']
So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so
perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I
don't know that.
Brazil is growing, but very slowly. The Central Bank was
"privatized" by Bolsonaro and the Federal Government has to pay over
6% interest(over inflation) on the National Debt Bolsonaro left
behind. Around 95% of our GNP.
But life is better, unemployment is down, wages increased and
our poverty is diminishing.
I can't see your links under this OS, it's too hardened. I
check them out on Linux tomorrow.
Done...
--TY
[]'s
Again thank you. Standard statistical reporting needs
standard definitions for comparison.
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021
I try to be kind to youy but you keep making it hard.of 15%.
The GDP barely rose at all from 2020 to the present and at this same time excess spending and wild eyed printing of money caused an inflation rate of nearly 20%. This difference in growth of GDP and inflation ended up with about a effective loss of GDP
This is as bad as your claims that there has been no increase in ultra-rapid growth cancers that show almost immediately at stage 4.
https://youtu.be/rLq3oYHsaoc
I understand if all of the things that have been happening since the election fraud that put the Democrats in charge is scaring people so that they want to deny it. But this is a discussion and we have to at least try and be honest.
On Thu Aug 29 09:41:51 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:59:08 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has
grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might
say diametrically different) administrations:
"Self employed" here means you work for a firm but have no
benefits at all. You have to pay your retirement, health costs, food,
eventual injuries etc. And you can be fired at any time.
Also, you don't have the right to a minimum wage. The road
sweepers in our town are "self employed" and make around 110 dollars a
month. That was illegal before the 2015-2026 coup.
The minimum wage currently is US$ 280 a month for a 44 hour
week.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/
Paywall. ~US$ 200 and I had to give credit card details....
Maybe it's a Brazilian thing or else you have a subscription.
Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present
administration, similar to the US regime effect:
https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram
Very similar to the US.
Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker
currency effect; shown in USD):
https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL
Exports at the end of Bolsonaro's regime were practically the
same as before the coup. It was a "lost" 7 years.
2023 was the first year of recovery. Looks like 2024 will be
even better.
Brazil was the 7th largest economy in the World prior to the
coup. It slid to 12th. Can't blame COVID because all countries had
COVID.
If you look at Argentina's data and compare it with this
#FAKE_NEWS article:
<https://web.archive.org/web/20240807093445/https://nypost.com/2024/06/20/opinion/argentinas-milei-miracle-proves-the-failure-of-socialism/>
... you will see why people that vote based on the "news" they
get from their cellphones always pick the worst candidates....
(I archived it because #FAKE_NEWS tends to disappear).
[click 'line chart' and 'exports']
So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so
perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I
don't know that.
Brazil is growing, but very slowly. The Central Bank was
"privatized" by Bolsonaro and the Federal Government has to pay over
6% interest(over inflation) on the National Debt Bolsonaro left
behind. Around 95% of our GNP.
But life is better, unemployment is down, wages increased and
our poverty is diminishing.
I can't see your links under this OS, it's too hardened. I
check them out on Linux tomorrow.
Done...
TY
[]'s
Again thank you. Standard statistical reporting needs
standard definitions for comparison.
I try to be kind to youy but you keep making it hard.
The GDP barely rose at all from 2020 to the present
and at this same time excess spending and wild eyed printing of money caused an inflation rate of nearly 20%.
This difference in growth of GDP and inflation ended up with about a effective loss of GDP of 15%.
This is as bad as your claims that there has been no increase in ultra-rapid growth cancers that show almost immediately at stage 4.
https://youtu.be/>snip>
I understand if all of the things that have been happening since the election fraud that put the Democrats
in charge
is scaring people so that they want to deny it. But this is a discussion and we have
to at least try and be honest.
On Sun, 03 Nov 2024 21:59:43 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Thu Aug 29 09:41:51 2024 Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:59:08 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
I can't speak to Brasil tax policy but 'self employed' has
grown more than 'employees' under very different (some might
say diametrically different) administrations:
"Self employed" here means you work for a firm but have no
benefits at all. You have to pay your retirement, health costs, food, >>>>> eventual injuries etc. And you can be fired at any time.
Also, you don't have the right to a minimum wage. The road
sweepers in our town are "self employed" and make around 110 dollars a >>>>> month. That was illegal before the 2015-2026 coup.
The minimum wage currently is US$ 280 a month for a 44 hour
week.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1039345/distribution-employed-population-status-brazil/
Paywall. ~US$ 200 and I had to give credit card details....
Maybe it's a Brazilian thing or else you have a subscription.
Brasil Real to gold shows weaker currency in the present
administration, similar to the US regime effect:
https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/10-year-gold-price-history-in-brazilian-reals-per-kilogram
Very similar to the US.
Then again exports have strengthened (note: not a weaker
currency effect; shown in USD):
https://trendeconomy.com/data/h2/Brazil/TOTAL
Exports at the end of Bolsonaro's regime were practically the
same as before the coup. It was a "lost" 7 years.
2023 was the first year of recovery. Looks like 2024 will be
even better.
Brazil was the 7th largest economy in the World prior to the
coup. It slid to 12th. Can't blame COVID because all countries had
COVID.
If you look at Argentina's data and compare it with this
#FAKE_NEWS article:
<https://web.archive.org/web/20240807093445/https://nypost.com/2024/06/20/opinion/argentinas-milei-miracle-proves-the-failure-of-socialism/>
... you will see why people that vote based on the "news" they
get from their cellphones always pick the worst candidates....
(I archived it because #FAKE_NEWS tends to disappear).
[click 'line chart' and 'exports']
So it appears that Brasil is functioning and growing, so
perhaps a crappy tax code is not yet at a crisis. Again I
don't know that.
Brazil is growing, but very slowly. The Central Bank was
"privatized" by Bolsonaro and the Federal Government has to pay over >>>>> 6% interest(over inflation) on the National Debt Bolsonaro left
behind. Around 95% of our GNP.
But life is better, unemployment is down, wages increased and
our poverty is diminishing.
I can't see your links under this OS, it's too hardened. I
check them out on Linux tomorrow.
Done...
TY
[]'s
Again thank you. Standard statistical reporting needs
standard definitions for comparison.
I try to be kind to youy but you keep making it hard.
The GDP barely rose at all from 2020 to the present
Just this year, under Lula, the GNP rose over 3%. Lula only became
President in 2023, so you can hardly blame 2020 on him....
We are suffering something akin to the USA, trying to recover from the mistakes made by the previous administration. It'll take decades.
and at this same time excess spending and wild eyed printing of money caused an inflation rate of nearly 20%.
And inflation is the lowest since the right wing coup. Unemplyment is
at a record low too.
This difference in growth of GDP and inflation ended up with about a effective loss of GDP of 15%.
This is as bad as your claims that there has been no increase in ultra-rapid growth cancers that show almost immediately at stage 4.
I think sms's post clarified that there is no such thing as a
"turbo cancer".
https://youtu.be/>snip>
I understand if all of the things that have been happening since the election fraud that put the Democrats
in charge
Funny, that's the same argument Bolsoaro used here. Every
single inquiry showed he lied. He just wanted to be dictator. Well,
he's waiting trial ATM.
is scaring people so that they want to deny it. But this is a discussion and we have
to at least try and be honest.
In Brazil you can vote for extreme right, far right, right or
center. There are no left wing candidates for presidency.
In the US you don't even have center ... it's just extreme
right( borderline Nazi/fascist) and moderate right.
I take it you are one of the Nazi supporters.
[]'s
In Brazil you can vote for extreme right, far right, right or
center. There are no left wing candidates for presidency.
In the US you don't even have center ... it's just extreme
right( borderline Nazi/fascist) and moderate right.
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:02:43 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
In Brazil you can vote for extreme right, far right, right or
center. There are no left wing candidates for presidency.
In the US you don't even have center ... it's just extreme
right( borderline Nazi/fascist) and moderate right.
That's what happens after a military takeover. The opposing political
party (or parties) tend to evaporate after the takeover. The
surviving parties then make a deal with the ruling junta that allows
them to continue functioning in trade for their list of members,
supporters, offshore bank accounts, etc. If they get out of line or
make too much noise, the junta has enough information evaporate them.
The US has always had exactly two political parties. The big
advantage is that neither party want to split their votes between two
or more factions. That's because neither of the two factions can
deliver enough votes to overthrow the opposing party that remained in
one piece. There have been independent and third party movements
(i.e. Ross Perot in 1992 and 1996) that might have delivered a
functional third party, but in the end, he couldn't deliver the
required electoral votes.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot>
"Perot did not win any electoral votes, but won over 19.7 million
votes for an 18.9% share of the popular vote."
Israel has the opposite problem. Instead of just two parties, it has
about 13 active parties fighting for 120 seats in the Knesset
(parliament): <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Israel#Parties_represented_in_the_Knesset>
There are also 42 active parties that do not have a seat in the
Knesset. All it takes to obtain a seat in the Knesset is about 1% or
more of the vote. With 13 active parties, it's rather difficult to
obtain a majority. The result is a tangle of coalitions, alliances,
informal collusion, back room deals, and sale of votes to highest
bidder, makes the alliances that were responsible for WWI look benign
by comparison. Nothing gets done in the Knesset without making a deal
with one's worst enemy (which includes a coalition of Arab parties). <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Arab_List>
Does your right wing military junta look better now by comparison?
Brasil hasn't been under
military rule for 40 years. There's a rich participatory
electorate who, as elsewhere, swing in their decisions over
the years, but a military dictatorship this is not.
On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 16:03:08 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
Brasil hasn't been under
military rule for 40 years. There's a rich participatory
electorate who, as elsewhere, swing in their decisions over
the years, but a military dictatorship this is not.
To be fair, we suffered a coup in 2015. The President was
impeached without committing any crimes and the favorite candidate for
the 2018 Presidential elections (polls gave him almost 70% of the
vote)was put in jail because a judge was "pretty sure" he was corrupt.
He used newspaper cuttings as "proof" of corruption. No actual
physical proof.
And Bolsonaro got in with the help of millions of social media
messages a day. And almost managed to reinstate the military
dictatorship after he lost the elections on 2022.
If he wasn't so corrupt and if people's lives had not
deteriorated so much he might have pulled it off.
[]'s
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:02:43 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
In Brazil you can vote for extreme right, far right, right or
center. There are no left wing candidates for presidency.
In the US you don't even have center ... it's just extreme
right( borderline Nazi/fascist) and moderate right.
That's what happens after a military takeover. The opposing political
party (or parties) tend to evaporate after the takeover. The
surviving parties then make a deal with the ruling junta that allows
them to continue functioning in trade for their list of members,
supporters, offshore bank accounts, etc. If they get out of line or
make too much noise, the junta has enough information evaporate them.
The US has always had exactly two political parties. The big
advantage is that neither party want to split their votes between two
or more factions. That's because neither of the two factions can
deliver enough votes to overthrow the opposing party that remained in
one piece. There have been independent and third party movements
(i.e. Ross Perot in 1992 and 1996) that might have delivered a
functional third party, but in the end, he couldn't deliver the
required electoral votes.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot>
"Perot did not win any electoral votes, but won over 19.7 million
votes for an 18.9% share of the popular vote."
Israel has the opposite problem. Instead of just two parties, it has
about 13 active parties fighting for 120 seats in the Knesset
(parliament): ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Israel#Parties_represented_in_the_Knesset>
There are also 42 active parties that do not have a seat in the
Knesset. All it takes to obtain a seat in the Knesset is about 1% or
more of the vote. With 13 active parties, it's rather difficult to
obtain a majority. The result is a tangle of coalitions, alliances,
informal collusion, back room deals, and sale of votes to highest
bidder, makes the alliances that were responsible for WWI look benign
by comparison. Nothing gets done in the Knesset without making a deal
with one's worst enemy (which includes a coalition of Arab parties). ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Arab_List>
Does your right wing military junta look better now by comparison?
On 11/4/2024 12:02 PM, Shadow wrote:
"> In Brazil you can vote for extreme right, far right,
right or center. There are no left wing candidates for
presidency."
That made me laugh out loud. Thanks!
The US has always had exactly two political parties. The big
advantage is that neither party want to split their votes between two
or more factions. That's because neither of the two factions can
deliver enough votes to overthrow the opposing party that remained in
one piece. There have been independent and third party movements
(i.e. Ross Perot in 1992 and 1996) that might have delivered a
functional third party, but in the end, he couldn't deliver the
required electoral votes.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot>
"Perot did not win any electoral votes, but won over 19.7 million
votes for an 18.9% share of the popular vote."
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 12:59:13 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
The US has always had exactly two political parties. The big
advantage is that neither party want to split their votes between two
or more factions. That's because neither of the two factions can
deliver enough votes to overthrow the opposing party that remained in
one piece. There have been independent and third party movements
(i.e. Ross Perot in 1992 and 1996) that might have delivered a
functional third party, but in the end, he couldn't deliver the
required electoral votes.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot>
"Perot did not win any electoral votes, but won over 19.7 million
votes for an 18.9% share of the popular vote."
Don't you think that's "unfair" ?
The Economist has a "democracy index" which weighs in all
sorts of stuff, from the voter's access to real news and their
educational level to how candidates are funded.
You get more points if elected politician actually represent
the people. Less votes if they just lobby for some company(which can
even be foreign). More votes if people have access to the politician's
real lives and motives, less points if the are heavily influenced by
false propaganda.
The US does not fare very well. In fact, it's not even
classified as a "full democracy".
And you can hardly call the "Economist" a communist or
socialist enterprise. LOL. It's center-right.
"But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years, and laws need to
change to accompany that.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index>
[]'s
On 11/4/2024 2:59 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:02:43 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
In Brazil you can vote for extreme right, far right, right or
center. There are no left wing candidates for presidency.
In the US you don't even have center ... it's just extreme
right( borderline Nazi/fascist) and moderate right.
That's what happens after a military takeover. The opposing political
party (or parties) tend to evaporate after the takeover. The
surviving parties then make a deal with the ruling junta that allows
them to continue functioning in trade for their list of members,
supporters, offshore bank accounts, etc. If they get out of line or
make too much noise, the junta has enough information evaporate them.
The US has always had exactly two political parties. The big
advantage is that neither party want to split their votes between two
or more factions. That's because neither of the two factions can
deliver enough votes to overthrow the opposing party that remained in
one piece. There have been independent and third party movements
(i.e. Ross Perot in 1992 and 1996) that might have delivered a
functional third party, but in the end, he couldn't deliver the
required electoral votes.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot>
"Perot did not win any electoral votes, but won over 19.7 million
votes for an 18.9% share of the popular vote."
Israel has the opposite problem. Instead of just two parties, it has
about 13 active parties fighting for 120 seats in the Knesset
(parliament):
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Israel#Parties_represented_in_the_Knesset>
There are also 42 active parties that do not have a seat in the
Knesset. All it takes to obtain a seat in the Knesset is about 1% or
more of the vote. With 13 active parties, it's rather difficult to
obtain a majority. The result is a tangle of coalitions, alliances,
informal collusion, back room deals, and sale of votes to highest
bidder, makes the alliances that were responsible for WWI look benign
by comparison. Nothing gets done in the Knesset without making a deal
with one's worst enemy (which includes a coalition of Arab parties).
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Arab_List>
Does your right wing military junta look better now by comparison?
All that's sensible in theory, but Brasil hasn't been under
military rule for 40 years. There's a rich participatory
electorate who, as elsewhere, swing in their decisions over
the years, but a military dictatorship this is not.
Our biggest threat to democracy is the media/social media's
#FAKE_NEWS. That with a very poor public education. The people will
believe anything...
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:15:44 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
Our biggest threat to democracy is the media/social media's
#FAKE_NEWS. That with a very poor public education. The people will
believe anything...
Maybe this will explain how it works. I don't recall who told me this
story. Most likely my parents, aunts or uncles.
My ancestors were mostly from Poland and Russia. Up to the early 19th >century, they didn't travel more than about 80km (50 miles) from home
for their entire lives. As is common in rural environments, strange
people and strange ideas are treated with suspicion. That created a
problem when they didn't know whom or what to believe. Communications
and transportation was sufficiently lacking that "seeing is believing"
was ineffective. Nobody believed what someone else claimed to have
seen. Instead, it was replaced by "hearing is believing", which meant
that people believed and trusted the local authority figure. It could
be a village elder, rabbi, priest, teacher or other recognized
authority. None of these had personally seen anything, but the weight
of their authority was sufficient to make people listen and believe
their version of reality.
It's not so different today. Instead of a choice between believing
what one sees and hears, it's now a choice between what we have read
on social media or viewed on YouTube. The problem of "who to trust"
is also the same. However, instead of 2 choices, we now have hundreds
of "influencers" bombarding us with their view of reality, which is
typically just propaganda. The problem isn't that people will believe >"anything" but rather that they'll believe "everything" without any >guidelines, education, reference, sources, authorities, etc that they
can trust to help separate the truth from the propaganda. Most
politicians have given up on trying to appear honest and simply adjust
their advocacy and promises to conform what their audience considers >acceptable. The mob no longer follows the leader. Instead, the
leader follows whatever the mob might want.
Social media and such are not threats to democracy. They are threats
to the republican form of government, where we elect representatives
to represent our opinions to the government. The problem is the >representatives don't use the same criteria for judgment that is used
by those who elected them to office. Politicians favor anything that
will enrich them and their friends through contributions and favors.
I've been involved in meetings with elected officials that make me
suspect that they are very badly informed about the issues that put
them in office and very well informed on the sources of cash and
influence that keep them in office.
Hint: I can fix anything if I know how it works. I really believe
that and study how things really work before I try to fix them. That
also applies to government and the economy. We're not going to be
able to fix the government or economy until we have a good
understanding of how they work. The schools are trying, but the
problem has grown faster than the curriculum can keep up.
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
"But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years, and laws need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S. Constitution as
perfection itself, and as a holy document That Must Never Be Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's got serious
flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds of nations with
constitutions. Not one has duplicated the U.S. Constitution. All have at >least attempted to improve on it.
On 8/16/2024 4:48 PM, cyclintom wrote:shuffler and pretends to know something about engineering
On Fri Aug 16 14:41:24 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/16/2024 10:08 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Fri Aug 16 00:03:44 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/15/2024 6:22 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Aug 15 14:06:49 2024 AMuzi wrote:
On 8/15/2024 1:27 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Aug 15 13:12:13 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 8/15/2024 12:34 PM, cyclintom wrote:
That Flunky whose statements have been shown as a fake on a video I referenced before
You wrote that there was a video you saw. You didn't give a link to it.
That's as valid as me referencing the bodycam footage of your drunk >>>>>>>> driving arrest.
(you HAVE to cut power to shift old friction shifting freewheel bikes
I've stated repeatedly it's recommended that you reduce power or 'soft
pedal'. You're the one that wrote "stop pedaling".
because they iused straight cut gears
<sigh>
no, dumbass, that isn't why. You soft pedal to reduce the load on the
chain as it transitions. PLacing too high of a load at the wrong moment
can cause the chain to skip or twist, both of which can cause breakage.
It's less of an issue with modern drive trains because the distance the
chain moves during the transition is smaller.
but Flunky has to lie about every thing he says
You still haven't proven anything I've ever written in this forum to be
a lie. Just because you say it, doesn't make it so. You have zero >>>>>>>> credibility on any issue.
Liebermann has never worked above the level of te3chnician and not a good one either. He is broke abnd couldn't get a job in the hottest job market in the entire world. Flunky is working at the absolute lowest level of EE - a fucking paper
face what you're so willing to say proected by distance.
How's that link to any reference showing PWM is used to test cable >>>>>>>> coming along?
I disagree with Andrew on a few points and he even admitted that shift wires have changed quite a bit over the years.
Yet he has stated unequivocally that shift cable do not stretch, they seat.
I have noted that there is a substantial difference in the Shimano and the Campagnilo cables
Not really. If you know what you're doing they're pretty much >>>>>>>> interchangable.
and Krygowski who has absolute NO experience with them
lol...Frank has NO experience with shifter cables. That's about as >>>>>>>> likely as your stock fund being recession-proof
tells you that he "fixed" the shifting on a friends bike by twisting the adjustment screw without any knowledge of previous work done on it.
I have as well, it doesn't take much to diagnose a shifting issue down
to the barrel adjuster needing a tweak. As long as it was set up >>>>>>>> correctly initially, any previous work isn't really relevant. >>>>>>>>
Krygowski perhaps you can tell us everything you know about 11 and 12 speed systems? Make it as clear as if you were teaching your students so that we can see the sort of teaching you believed you were accomplishing.
As a note - 30 years ago, the AVERAGE grade of college students was a C. Today thanks to people like Krygowski the AVERAGE grade of a student is an A-.
ATTENTION: TOM KUNICH AMAZING FACT #3,724: "30 years ago, the AVERAGE
grade of college students was a C. Today....the AVERAGE grade of a >>>>>>>> student is an A-"
This is across the entire spectrum of public colleges.
Got a link to that, sparky?
Your doctor might very well have graduated from a medical school with an A. I know that the engineers I ended up supervising
You were never in a supervisory role.
were incompetent on the lowest level. I personally did HALF of the design and more than half of the programming than 3 design engineers and 3 programmers. Due to this Silicon Valley is now GONE.
The bed of the highest developement and invention has been entirely destroyed not only by utter incompetence of public college teaching staff, but even Stanford and other supposedly high ranking colleges.
riiiight, no high tech in Silicon Valley at all any more!
Krygowski is part of the communist idiology who believes that 20 wrongs make a right. That one correct idea is worthless without people that don't understand it supporting it. Frank, if you ever meet me I strongly advise you to not say to my
Guard. He would have loved that since when they are called up he would have been able to order people about. It is no surprise that Liebermann's family disowned him.
Or what, tommy? Tell us exactly what Frank (or anyone) risks by calling
you an idiot to your face.
Look at all of the time and money Liebermann wasted going to college to avoid the draft without learning the first thing about engineering! Since he was a coward and afraid that they would draft him he could have simply joined the National
acceleration of friction shifting. But don't worry, everyone is seeing through you.
Funny seeing a man who remarried the woman that stole all his money >>>>>>>> criticizing other peoples familial relationships
--
Add xx to reply
So now you call if "soft pedalling" and somehow that is different from the pause that you make when you shift straight cut gears. We are seeing huge pileups that were not seen in the days of friction shifted freewheels because of the uneven
the appropriate speed for the locale I would back way off and shift to a higher gear and simply pedal along.
I run a six chain on a six freewheel (vintage straight
teeth. Yes I have spare sprockets) with Campagnolo 1013
friction levers. I do shift under light load but never pause
or even stop to shift. That's ridiculous in any derailleur
system which by its nature shunts the flow of chain. No flow
= no shift.
A gearbox is very different. I do indeed pause briefly to
shift my Sturmey three speed, else the clutch cannot slide
to the next position.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
You and Flunky are not talking about shifting under power as you woujld do in racing. That is a sure-fire way to break a chain. Perhaos I have a different view since until this year I ALWAYS accekerated at or very near maximum. After I got up to
Any normal person would be embarrassed to scold someone for calling out
"I ALWAYS accekerated at or very near maximum" makes no sense, even if >>>> you correct the spelling. No sane person rides that way.
--
- Frank Krygowski
Krygowski, any normal person would be ashamed to say the things you do. >>
their spelling mistakes when the vast majority of text UIs have spell
checkers.
In one sentence you complain about my spelling and the way that nearly everyone rides.
Is it really your contention that every rider always accelerates at or
near maximum?
Maybe we should set up a poll here to see who actually does that?
Or maybe tommy _did_ mean to type 'accekerated', and 'accekerated' has
some other meaning in tommys alternate universe.
Tell me Ms. Bullshit, what grade did you get in the spelling bee in
the third grade. It must have been an A and you're so proud of that that >> you cannot let anyone else forget it. No wonder you were fired as a
plant engineer. You really found your calling as a teacher able to mark
a perfect paper down because it transposed an l and a k which are right
next to each other on a keyboard.
Wait - you better check that entire "rant" for typos. It might put you in the superior position you believe you deserve.
Or, you could just run spellcheck before you send a message and save
yourself the embarrassment.
--
Add xx to reply
Poor little Flunky doesn't have any friends so he thinks he can make them from idiots by agreeing with them.
Not true, I never agree with you, and you're the biggest idiot here.
He claims to be a racer and doesn't accelerte up to speed from a stop.
I don't accelerate at maximum effort from every stop. No one does that, except apparently you. Racers don't do that unless the conditions call
for it.
Hey Flunky, are you sure that you're not really a Car 4?
No, I'm not a car 4 (whatever that is). I'm not a cat 4 either.
Sounds that you have an awful lot to learn.
says the idiot that admitted he speed away from a cat 5 field at max
effort from the start, then got caught, dropped, and DNFd.
Until this year I always used to beat all of the cars across intersections.
Riding that way
a) proves nothing
b) is really stupid
c) leads to early exhaustion - as you single failed racing experience proved d) likely isn't even true
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:17:32 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:15:44 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
Our biggest threat to democracy is the media/social media's
#FAKE_NEWS. That with a very poor public education. The people will
believe anything...
Maybe this will explain how it works. I don't recall who told me this
story. Most likely my parents, aunts or uncles.
My ancestors were mostly from Poland and Russia. Up to the early 19th
century, they didn't travel more than about 80km (50 miles) from home
for their entire lives. As is common in rural environments, strange
people and strange ideas are treated with suspicion. That created a
problem when they didn't know whom or what to believe. Communications
and transportation was sufficiently lacking that "seeing is believing"
was ineffective. Nobody believed what someone else claimed to have
seen. Instead, it was replaced by "hearing is believing", which meant
that people believed and trusted the local authority figure. It could
be a village elder, rabbi, priest, teacher or other recognized
authority. None of these had personally seen anything, but the weight
of their authority was sufficient to make people listen and believe
their version of reality.
It's not so different today. Instead of a choice between believing
what one sees and hears, it's now a choice between what we have read
on social media or viewed on YouTube. The problem of "who to trust"
is also the same. However, instead of 2 choices, we now have hundreds
of "influencers" bombarding us with their view of reality, which is
typically just propaganda. The problem isn't that people will believe
"anything" but rather that they'll believe "everything" without any
guidelines, education, reference, sources, authorities, etc that they
can trust to help separate the truth from the propaganda. Most
politicians have given up on trying to appear honest and simply adjust
their advocacy and promises to conform what their audience considers
acceptable. The mob no longer follows the leader. Instead, the
leader follows whatever the mob might want.
Social media and such are not threats to democracy. They are threats
to the republican form of government, where we elect representatives
to represent our opinions to the government. The problem is the
representatives don't use the same criteria for judgment that is used
by those who elected them to office. Politicians favor anything that
will enrich them and their friends through contributions and favors.
I've been involved in meetings with elected officials that make me
suspect that they are very badly informed about the issues that put
them in office and very well informed on the sources of cash and
influence that keep them in office.
Hint: I can fix anything if I know how it works. I really believe
that and study how things really work before I try to fix them. That
also applies to government and the economy. We're not going to be
able to fix the government or economy until we have a good
understanding of how they work. The schools are trying, but the
problem has grown faster than the curriculum can keep up.
I agree with all that except for the last sentence about the schools.
I don't think they're trying to teach much of anything important these
days.
There are college graduates walking around who can't even tell the
difference between men and women.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On 11/4/2024 5:27 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 16:03:08 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
Brasil hasn't been under
military rule for 40 years. There's a rich participatory
electorate who, as elsewhere, swing in their decisions over
the years, but a military dictatorship this is not.
To be fair, we suffered a coup in 2015. The President was
impeached without committing any crimes and the favorite candidate for
the 2018 Presidential elections (polls gave him almost 70% of the
vote)was put in jail because a judge was "pretty sure" he was corrupt.
He used newspaper cuttings as "proof" of corruption. No actual
physical proof.
And Bolsonaro got in with the help of millions of social media
messages a day. And almost managed to reinstate the military
dictatorship after he lost the elections on 2022.
If he wasn't so corrupt and if people's lives had not
deteriorated so much he might have pulled it off.
[]'s
'Car Wash' was all fiction??
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
    "But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that
lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years, and
laws need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S.
Constitution as perfection itself, and as a holy document
That Must Never Be Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's got
serious flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds of
nations with constitutions. Not one has duplicated the U.S.
Constitution. All have at least attempted to improve on it.
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:15:44 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
Our biggest threat to democracy is the media/social media's
#FAKE_NEWS. That with a very poor public education. The people will
believe anything...
Maybe this will explain how it works. I don't recall who told me this
story. Most likely my parents, aunts or uncles.
My ancestors were mostly from Poland and Russia. Up to the early 19th century, they didn't travel more than about 80km (50 miles) from home
for their entire lives. As is common in rural environments, strange
people and strange ideas are treated with suspicion. That created a
problem when they didn't know whom or what to believe. Communications
and transportation was sufficiently lacking that "seeing is believing"
was ineffective. Nobody believed what someone else claimed to have
seen. Instead, it was replaced by "hearing is believing", which meant
that people believed and trusted the local authority figure. It could
be a village elder, rabbi, priest, teacher or other recognized
authority. None of these had personally seen anything, but the weight
of their authority was sufficient to make people listen and believe
their version of reality.
It's not so different today. Instead of a choice between believing
what one sees and hears, it's now a choice between what we have read
on social media or viewed on YouTube. The problem of "who to trust"
is also the same. However, instead of 2 choices, we now have hundreds
of "influencers" bombarding us with their view of reality, which is
typically just propaganda. The problem isn't that people will believe "anything" but rather that they'll believe "everything" without any guidelines, education, reference, sources, authorities, etc that they
can trust to help separate the truth from the propaganda. Most
politicians have given up on trying to appear honest and simply adjust
their advocacy and promises to conform what their audience considers acceptable. The mob no longer follows the leader. Instead, the
leader follows whatever the mob might want.
Social media and such are not threats to democracy. They are threats
to the republican form of government, where we elect representatives
to represent our opinions to the government. The problem is the representatives don't use the same criteria for judgment that is used
by those who elected them to office. Politicians favor anything that
will enrich them and their friends through contributions and favors.
I've been involved in meetings with elected officials that make me
suspect that they are very badly informed about the issues that put
them in office and very well informed on the sources of cash and
influence that keep them in office.
Hint: I can fix anything if I know how it works. I really believe
that and study how things really work before I try to fix them. That
also applies to government and the economy. We're not going to be
able to fix the government or economy until we have a good
understanding of how they work. The schools are trying, but the
problem has grown faster than the curriculum can keep up.
On 11/4/2024 5:27 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 16:03:08 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
Brasil hasn't been under
military rule for 40 years. There's a rich participatory
electorate who, as elsewhere, swing in their decisions over
the years, but a military dictatorship this is not.
    To be fair, we suffered a coup in 2015. The President was
impeached without committing any crimes and the favorite candidate for
the 2018 Presidential elections (polls gave him almost 70% of the
vote)was put in jail because a judge was "pretty sure" he was corrupt.
He used newspaper cuttings as "proof" of corruption. No actual
physical proof.
    And Bolsonaro got in with the help of millions of social media
messages a day. And almost managed to reinstate the military
dictatorship after he lost the elections on 2022.
    If he wasn't so corrupt and if people's lives had not
deteriorated so much he might have pulled it off.
    []'s
'Car Wash' was all fiction??
On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 22:05:52 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
"But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years, and laws need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S. Constitution as
perfection itself, and as a holy document That Must Never Be Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's got serious
flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds of nations with
constitutions. Not one has duplicated the U.S. Constitution. All have at
least attempted to improve on it.
But are there hundreds of countries that are structured as the U.S.
was? A group of separate legally individual states who had grouped
together to provide a single face to foreigners, but to maintain the independence of the individual states.
On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
    "But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years, and laws need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S. Constitution as
perfection itself, and as a holy document That Must Never Be Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's got serious
flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds of nations with
constitutions. Not one has duplicated the U.S. Constitution. All have
at least attempted to improve on it.
With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly adopted 18th
Amendment, the only one more destructive than the 17th.
Change for its own sake is not always positive.
On 11/5/2024 9:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
    "But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that
lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years,
and laws need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S.
Constitution as perfection itself, and as a holy document
That Must Never Be Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's
got serious flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds of
nations with constitutions. Not one has duplicated the
U.S. Constitution. All have at least attempted to improve
on it.
With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly adopted
18th Amendment, the only one more destructive than the 17th.
Change for its own sake is not always positive.
An amendment defining the structure of the senate is the 2nd
most destructive?
On 11/5/2024 8:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 9:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
"But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that
lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years,
and laws need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S.
Constitution as perfection itself, and as a holy document
That Must Never Be Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's
got serious flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds of
nations with constitutions. Not one has duplicated the
U.S. Constitution. All have at least attempted to improve
on it.
With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly adopted
18th Amendment, the only one more destructive than the 17th.
Change for its own sake is not always positive.
An amendment defining the structure of the senate is the 2nd
most destructive?
It removed the State legislatures from the process. That's a
big change, as reflected by candidates' positions and
campaign strategies and of course who is elected.
On 11/5/2024 8:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 9:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
    "But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that lowers the >>>>> score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years, and laws need to >>>>> change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S. Constitution as
perfection itself, and as a holy document That Must Never Be
Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's got serious
flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds of nations with
constitutions. Not one has duplicated the U.S. Constitution. All
have at least attempted to improve on it.
With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly adopted 18th
Amendment, the only one more destructive than the 17th.
Change for its own sake is not always positive.
An amendment defining the structure of the senate is the 2nd most
destructive?
It removed the State legislatures from the process. That's a big change,
as reflected by candidates' positions and campaign strategies and of
course who is elected.
On 11/5/2024 10:53 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 10:25 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 8:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 9:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
    "But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that lowers the >>>>>>> score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years, and laws
need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S. Constitution as >>>>>> perfection itself, and as a holy document That Must Never Be
Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's got
serious flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds of nations with >>>>>> constitutions. Not one has duplicated the U.S. Constitution. All
have at least attempted to improve on it.
With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly adopted 18th
Amendment, the only one more destructive than the 17th.
Change for its own sake is not always positive.
An amendment defining the structure of the senate is the 2nd most
destructive?
It removed the State legislatures from the process. That's a big
change, as reflected by candidates' positions and campaign strategies
and of course who is elected.
Wait, so you're saying the state legislatures should have the
exclusive authority to appoint senators, regardless of the will of the
people?
I'm having difficulty seeing how the people electing senators is
"destructive".
For the same reason that pattern and practice of elections is the sole plenary duty of the legislature, not referenda, not by one official
elected or appointed.
The Framers preferred a deliberative process for many decisions (by no
means all) and we differ, as much now as then, about where those lines
should be drawn.
On 11/5/2024 10:53 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 10:25 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 8:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 9:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
"But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that
lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years,
and laws need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S.
Constitution as perfection itself, and as a holy
document That Must Never Be Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's
got serious flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds
of nations with constitutions. Not one has duplicated
the U.S. Constitution. All have at least attempted to
improve on it.
With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly
adopted 18th Amendment, the only one more destructive
than the 17th.
Change for its own sake is not always positive.
An amendment defining the structure of the senate is the
2nd most destructive?
It removed the State legislatures from the process. That's
a big change, as reflected by candidates' positions and
campaign strategies and of course who is elected.
Wait, so you're saying the state legislatures should have
the exclusive authority to appoint senators, regardless of
the will of the people?
I'm having difficulty seeing how the people electing
senators is "destructive".
For the same reason that pattern and practice of elections
is the sole plenary duty of the legislature, not referenda,
not by one official elected or appointed.
The Framers preferred a deliberative process for many
decisions (by no means all) and we differ, as much now as
then, about where those lines should be drawn.
On 11/5/2024 10:25 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 8:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 9:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
    "But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that
lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years,
and laws need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S.
Constitution as perfection itself, and as a holy
document That Must Never Be Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's
got serious flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds
of nations with constitutions. Not one has duplicated
the U.S. Constitution. All have at least attempted to
improve on it.
With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly
adopted 18th Amendment, the only one more destructive
than the 17th.
Change for its own sake is not always positive.
An amendment defining the structure of the senate is the
2nd most destructive?
It removed the State legislatures from the process. That's
a big change, as reflected by candidates' positions and
campaign strategies and of course who is elected.
Wait, so you're saying the state legislatures should have
the exclusive authority to appoint senators, regardless of
the will of the people?
I'm having difficulty seeing how the people electing
senators is "destructive".
On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:18:14 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 11/5/2024 10:53 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 10:25 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 8:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 9:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
    "But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that
lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years,
and laws need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S.
Constitution as perfection itself, and as a holy
document That Must Never Be Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's
got serious flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds
of nations with constitutions. Not one has duplicated
the U.S. Constitution. All have at least attempted to
improve on it.
With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly
adopted 18th Amendment, the only one more destructive
than the 17th.
Change for its own sake is not always positive.
An amendment defining the structure of the senate is the
2nd most destructive?
It removed the State legislatures from the process. That's
a big change, as reflected by candidates' positions and
campaign strategies and of course who is elected.
Wait, so you're saying the state legislatures should have
the exclusive authority to appoint senators, regardless of
the will of the people?
I'm having difficulty seeing how the people electing
senators is "destructive".
For the same reason that pattern and practice of elections
is the sole plenary duty of the legislature, not referenda,
not by one official elected or appointed.
The Framers preferred a deliberative process for many
decisions (by no means all) and we differ, as much now as
then, about where those lines should be drawn.
Diminished state sovereignty, which increased the federal government’s powers.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On 11/5/2024 12:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 10:53 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 10:25 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 8:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 9:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
    "But it's in the Constitution" - just saying
that lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100
years, and laws need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S.
Constitution as perfection itself, and as a holy
document That Must Never Be Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think
it's got serious flaws. As evidence, there are now
hundreds of nations with constitutions. Not one has
duplicated the U.S. Constitution. All have at least
attempted to improve on it.
With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly
adopted 18th Amendment, the only one more destructive
than the 17th.
Change for its own sake is not always positive.
An amendment defining the structure of the senate is
the 2nd most destructive?
It removed the State legislatures from the process.
That's a big change, as reflected by candidates'
positions and campaign strategies and of course who is
elected.
Wait, so you're saying the state legislatures should have
the exclusive authority to appoint senators, regardless
of the will of the people?
I'm having difficulty seeing how the people electing
senators is "destructive".
For the same reason that pattern and practice of elections
is the sole plenary duty of the legislature, not
referenda, not by one official elected or appointed.
The Framers preferred a deliberative process for many
decisions (by no means all) and we differ, as much now as
then, about where those lines should be drawn.
So why then don't we just have the president selected by the
congress? Fuck what the people actually want.
On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 11:18:14 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 11/5/2024 10:53 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 10:25 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 8:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 9:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
    "But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that
lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years,
and laws need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S.
Constitution as perfection itself, and as a holy
document That Must Never Be Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's
got serious flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds
of nations with constitutions. Not one has duplicated
the U.S. Constitution. All have at least attempted to
improve on it.
With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly
adopted 18th Amendment, the only one more destructive
than the 17th.
Change for its own sake is not always positive.
An amendment defining the structure of the senate is the
2nd most destructive?
It removed the State legislatures from the process. That's
a big change, as reflected by candidates' positions and
campaign strategies and of course who is elected.
Wait, so you're saying the state legislatures should have
the exclusive authority to appoint senators, regardless of
the will of the people?
I'm having difficulty seeing how the people electing
senators is "destructive".
For the same reason that pattern and practice of elections
is the sole plenary duty of the legislature, not referenda,
not by one official elected or appointed.
The Framers preferred a deliberative process for many
decisions (by no means all) and we differ, as much now as
then, about where those lines should be drawn.
Diminished state sovereignty, which increased the federal government’s powers.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
On 11/5/2024 11:28 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 12:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 10:53 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 10:25 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 8:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 9:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
    "But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that lowers the >>>>>>>>> score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years, and laws >>>>>>>>> need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S. Constitution >>>>>>>> as perfection itself, and as a holy document That Must Never Be >>>>>>>> Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's got
serious flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds of nations
with constitutions. Not one has duplicated the U.S.
Constitution. All have at least attempted to improve on it.
With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly adopted 18th
Amendment, the only one more destructive than the 17th.
Change for its own sake is not always positive.
An amendment defining the structure of the senate is the 2nd most
destructive?
It removed the State legislatures from the process. That's a big
change, as reflected by candidates' positions and campaign
strategies and of course who is elected.
Wait, so you're saying the state legislatures should have the
exclusive authority to appoint senators, regardless of the will of
the people?
I'm having difficulty seeing how the people electing senators is
"destructive".
For the same reason that pattern and practice of elections is the
sole plenary duty of the legislature, not referenda, not by one
official elected or appointed.
The Framers preferred a deliberative process for many decisions (by
no means all) and we differ, as much now as then, about where those
lines should be drawn.
So why then don't we just have the president selected by the congress?
Fuck what the people actually want.
Scary thought, which may be more pertinent than you think.
Rather than a popular vote, Presidential Electors are roughly
proportioned by population, roughly because each State also gets two automatically besides the number of Congressional seats.
In the unlikely event that Electors are tied, the vote goes to the House
with each State contributing one vote. Yep, Wyoming's opinion has equal weight to California. This has actually happened and provoked a deluge
of money, power extortion and bribery from many quarters to deny
President Tilden the office. Let's not see a replay!
Back to your comment, the pith is in the final clause. Which people,
exactly? A popular vote would overly weigh the influence of Virginia
(then; now it would be California) and campaigns would easily ignore
Rhode Island ((then and now; plus Wyoming) altogether.
The document was not dashed off in haste. It's complex for good reasons
then, which may or may not suit all readers today.
On 11/5/2024 1:34 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 11:28 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 12:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 10:53 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 10:25 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 8:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 9:32 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 9:05 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
    "But it's in the Constitution" - just saying
that lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100
years, and laws need to
change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S.
Constitution as perfection itself, and as a holy
document That Must Never Be Criticized.
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think
it's got serious flaws. As evidence, there are now
hundreds of nations with constitutions. Not one has
duplicated the U.S. Constitution. All have at least
attempted to improve on it.
With mixed success. I give you the overwhelmingly
adopted 18th Amendment, the only one more
destructive than the 17th.
Change for its own sake is not always positive.
An amendment defining the structure of the senate is
the 2nd most destructive?
It removed the State legislatures from the process.
That's a big change, as reflected by candidates'
positions and campaign strategies and of course who is
elected.
Wait, so you're saying the state legislatures should
have the exclusive authority to appoint senators,
regardless of the will of the people?
I'm having difficulty seeing how the people electing
senators is "destructive".
For the same reason that pattern and practice of
elections is the sole plenary duty of the legislature,
not referenda, not by one official elected or appointed.
The Framers preferred a deliberative process for many
decisions (by no means all) and we differ, as much now
as then, about where those lines should be drawn.
So why then don't we just have the president selected by
the congress? Fuck what the people actually want.
Scary thought, which may be more pertinent than you think.
Rather than a popular vote, Presidential Electors are
roughly proportioned by population, roughly because each
State also gets two automatically besides the number of
Congressional seats.
In the unlikely event that Electors are tied, the vote
goes to the House with each State contributing one vote.
Yep, Wyoming's opinion has equal weight to California.
This has actually happened and provoked a deluge of money,
power extortion and bribery from many quarters to deny
President Tilden the office. Let's not see a replay!
Back to your comment, the pith is in the final clause.
Which people, exactly? A popular vote would overly weigh
the influence of Virginia (then; now it would be
California) and campaigns would easily ignore Rhode Island
((then and now; plus Wyoming) altogether.
The document was not dashed off in haste. It's complex for
good reasons then, which may or may not suit all readers
today.
Which brings us back to the question - how is the 17th
amendment "destructive"? Certainly from a federalist
perspective it's the opposite. From a populist perspective
it's helpful to have the structure defined in the context of
the popular vote rather than rely on the individual states legislative/executive whims (and corruption).
I get it, you see any demands from the federal government on
the states as overreach. I prefer more structure; I don't
have a problem with it.
On 11/5/2024 11:49 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
Diminished state sovereignty, which increased the federal government’sYes exactly, seen as a positive aspect by some but a
powers.
travesty to others.
On 11/4/2024 6:40 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 5:27 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 16:03:08 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
Brasil hasn't been under
military rule for 40 years. There's a rich participatory
electorate who, as elsewhere, swing in their decisions over
the years, but a military dictatorship this is not.
To be fair, we suffered a coup in 2015. The President was
impeached without committing any crimes and the favorite candidate for
the 2018 Presidential elections (polls gave him almost 70% of the
vote)was put in jail because a judge was "pretty sure" he was corrupt.
He used newspaper cuttings as "proof" of corruption. No actual
physical proof.
And Bolsonaro got in with the help of millions of social media
messages a day. And almost managed to reinstate the military
dictatorship after he lost the elections on 2022.
If he wasn't so corrupt and if people's lives had not
deteriorated so much he might have pulled it off.
[]'s
'Car Wash' was all fiction??
Not sure how you got that out of what he wrote.
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:15:44 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
Our biggest threat to democracy is the media/social media's
#FAKE_NEWS. That with a very poor public education. The people will
believe anything...
Maybe this will explain how it works. I don't recall who told me this
story. Most likely my parents, aunts or uncles.
My ancestors were mostly from Poland and Russia. Up to the early 19th >century, they didn't travel more than about 80km (50 miles) from home
for their entire lives. As is common in rural environments, strange
people and strange ideas are treated with suspicion. That created a
problem when they didn't know whom or what to believe. Communications
and transportation was sufficiently lacking that "seeing is believing"
was ineffective. Nobody believed what someone else claimed to have
seen. Instead, it was replaced by "hearing is believing", which meant
that people believed and trusted the local authority figure. It could
be a village elder, rabbi, priest, teacher or other recognized
authority. None of these had personally seen anything, but the weight
of their authority was sufficient to make people listen and believe
their version of reality.
It's not so different today. Instead of a choice between believing
what one sees and hears, it's now a choice between what we have read
on social media or viewed on YouTube. The problem of "who to trust"
is also the same. However, instead of 2 choices, we now have hundreds
of "influencers" bombarding us with their view of reality, which is
typically just propaganda. The problem isn't that people will believe >"anything" but rather that they'll believe "everything" without any >guidelines, education, reference, sources, authorities, etc that they
can trust to help separate the truth from the propaganda. Most
politicians have given up on trying to appear honest and simply adjust
their advocacy and promises to conform what their audience considers >acceptable. The mob no longer follows the leader. Instead, the
leader follows whatever the mob might want.
Social media and such are not threats to democracy. They are threats
to the republican form of government, where we elect representatives
to represent our opinions to the government. The problem is the >representatives don't use the same criteria for judgment that is used
by those who elected them to office. Politicians favor anything that
will enrich them and their friends through contributions and favors.
I've been involved in meetings with elected officials that make me
suspect that they are very badly informed about the issues that put
them in office and very well informed on the sources of cash and
influence that keep them in office.
Hint: I can fix anything if I know how it works. I really believe--
that and study how things really work before I try to fix them. That
also applies to government and the economy. We're not going to be
able to fix the government or economy until we have a good
understanding of how they work. The schools are trying, but the
problem has grown faster than the curriculum can keep up.
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:17:32 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:15:44 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
Our biggest threat to democracy is the media/social media's
#FAKE_NEWS. That with a very poor public education. The people will
believe anything...
Maybe this will explain how it works. I don't recall who told me this
story. Most likely my parents, aunts or uncles.
My ancestors were mostly from Poland and Russia. Up to the early 19th
century, they didn't travel more than about 80km (50 miles) from home
for their entire lives. As is common in rural environments, strange
people and strange ideas are treated with suspicion. That created a
problem when they didn't know whom or what to believe. Communications
and transportation was sufficiently lacking that "seeing is believing"
was ineffective. Nobody believed what someone else claimed to have
seen. Instead, it was replaced by "hearing is believing", which meant
that people believed and trusted the local authority figure. It could
be a village elder, rabbi, priest, teacher or other recognized
authority. None of these had personally seen anything, but the weight
of their authority was sufficient to make people listen and believe
their version of reality.
It's not so different today. Instead of a choice between believing
what one sees and hears, it's now a choice between what we have read
on social media or viewed on YouTube. The problem of "who to trust"
is also the same. However, instead of 2 choices, we now have hundreds
of "influencers" bombarding us with their view of reality, which is
typically just propaganda. The problem isn't that people will believe
"anything" but rather that they'll believe "everything" without any
guidelines, education, reference, sources, authorities, etc that they
can trust to help separate the truth from the propaganda. Most
politicians have given up on trying to appear honest and simply adjust
their advocacy and promises to conform what their audience considers
acceptable. The mob no longer follows the leader. Instead, the
leader follows whatever the mob might want.
Social media and such are not threats to democracy. They are threats
to the republican form of government, where we elect representatives
to represent our opinions to the government. The problem is the
representatives don't use the same criteria for judgment that is used
by those who elected them to office. Politicians favor anything that
will enrich them and their friends through contributions and favors.
I've been involved in meetings with elected officials that make me
suspect that they are very badly informed about the issues that put
them in office and very well informed on the sources of cash and
influence that keep them in office.
I sort of disagree with you. Psychopaths behind companies like
X (ex-twitter), Meta, Google, Amakon and others more or less define
who/what people vote for. Old fashioned media like newspapers and TV
have some influence, but less, because they announce news for
everyone. Social media carefully tailors news for each individual.
An example? Brekshit....Facebook and Cambridge Analytica made
people vote for something they didn't even understand. Note the people
behind the scandal were all right-wing. I'm not sure if I should laugh
at or feel sorry for people that think that Zukerberg and Bezos are "communists". Sure, they want the State to confiscate Meta and Amakon <implicit sarcasm>
They say that Musk might even destroy the US as you know it
now. Depends on how much he influenced the vote. Musk is a right-wing fascist, and privately - sometime publicly - defends dictatorships.
Enough gullible idiots, and those psychopaths could vote a
pumpkin into office.
Your problem is that people in your social circle are
probably more intelligent than the national average. Harder to con.
Usually think before giving an opinion. In my line of work I had
contact with all sorts.
Believe me, the average human is very stupid...and
trusting(did I just plagiarize Zukerberg?)
[]'s
Hint: I can fix anything if I know how it works. I really believe
that and study how things really work before I try to fix them. That
also applies to government and the economy. We're not going to be
able to fix the government or economy until we have a good
understanding of how they work. The schools are trying, but the
problem has grown faster than the curriculum can keep up.
On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:43:34 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 11/5/2024 3:56 AM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 22:05:52 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 11/4/2024 7:07 PM, Shadow wrote:
"But it's in the Constitution" - just saying that lowers the
score. The World has changed a LOT in over 100 years, and laws need to >>>>> change to accompany that.
I occasionally encounter people who treat the U.S. Constitution as
perfection itself, and as a holy document That Must Never Be Criticized. >>>>
But despite its revisions (AKA amendments) I think it's got serious
flaws. As evidence, there are now hundreds of nations with
constitutions. Not one has duplicated the U.S. Constitution. All have at >>>> least attempted to improve on it.
But are there hundreds of countries that are structured as the U.S.
was? A group of separate legally individual states who had grouped
together to provide a single face to foreigners, but to maintain the
independence of the individual states.
Nederlands.
That's 1, where are the other 99?
On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 09:40:36 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>Ye, I followed the shenenigans. My comment was aimed at Andrews "'Car
wrote:
On 11/4/2024 6:40 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/4/2024 5:27 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 16:03:08 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
Brasil hasn't been under
military rule for 40 years. There's a rich participatory
electorate who, as elsewhere, swing in their decisions over
the years, but a military dictatorship this is not.
    To be fair, we suffered a coup in 2015. The President was
impeached without committing any crimes and the favorite candidate for >>>> the 2018 Presidential elections (polls gave him almost 70% of the
vote)was put in jail because a judge was "pretty sure" he was corrupt. >>>> He used newspaper cuttings as "proof" of corruption. No actual
physical proof.
    And Bolsonaro got in with the help of millions of social media >>>> messages a day. And almost managed to reinstate the military
dictatorship after he lost the elections on 2022.
    If he wasn't so corrupt and if people's lives had not
deteriorated so much he might have pulled it off.
    []'s
'Car Wash' was all fiction??
Not sure how you got that out of what he wrote.
Operation "car wash" was part of the coup. It convicted
candidate Lula to over 20 years jail based on newspaper cuttings and
opinions of right wing reporters. And he was banned from running for President in 2018 because anyone with a conviction for corruption
cannot run.
The judge in charge admitted he had no proof of corruption, He
also visited CIA and FBI headquarters once a month for "legal
guidance". Which is weird, because our laws are completely different
from US laws....
Ah, and Bolsonaro made him Minister of Justice as a "thank
you".
[]'s
On 11/5/2024 6:33 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:17:32 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:15:44 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
Our biggest threat to democracy is the media/social media's
#FAKE_NEWS. That with a very poor public education. The people will
believe anything...
Maybe this will explain how it works. I don't recall who told me this
story. Most likely my parents, aunts or uncles.
My ancestors were mostly from Poland and Russia. Up to the early 19th
century, they didn't travel more than about 80km (50 miles) from home
for their entire lives. As is common in rural environments, strange
people and strange ideas are treated with suspicion. That created a
problem when they didn't know whom or what to believe. Communications
and transportation was sufficiently lacking that "seeing is believing"
was ineffective. Nobody believed what someone else claimed to have
seen. Instead, it was replaced by "hearing is believing", which meant
that people believed and trusted the local authority figure. It could
be a village elder, rabbi, priest, teacher or other recognized
authority. None of these had personally seen anything, but the weight
of their authority was sufficient to make people listen and believe
their version of reality.
It's not so different today. Instead of a choice between believing
what one sees and hears, it's now a choice between what we have read
on social media or viewed on YouTube. The problem of "who to trust"
is also the same. However, instead of 2 choices, we now have hundreds
of "influencers" bombarding us with their view of reality, which is
typically just propaganda. The problem isn't that people will believe
"anything" but rather that they'll believe "everything" without any
guidelines, education, reference, sources, authorities, etc that they
can trust to help separate the truth from the propaganda. Most
politicians have given up on trying to appear honest and simply adjust
their advocacy and promises to conform what their audience considers
acceptable. The mob no longer follows the leader. Instead, the
leader follows whatever the mob might want.
Social media and such are not threats to democracy. They are threats
to the republican form of government, where we elect representatives
to represent our opinions to the government. The problem is the
representatives don't use the same criteria for judgment that is used
by those who elected them to office. Politicians favor anything that
will enrich them and their friends through contributions and favors.
I've been involved in meetings with elected officials that make me
suspect that they are very badly informed about the issues that put
them in office and very well informed on the sources of cash and
influence that keep them in office.
    I sort of disagree with you. Psychopaths behind companies like
X (ex-twitter), Meta, Google, Amakon and others more or less define
who/what people vote for. Old fashioned media like newspapers and TV
have some influence, but less, because they announce news for
everyone. Social media carefully tailors news for each individual.
    An example? Brekshit....Facebook and Cambridge Analytica made
people vote for something they didn't even understand. Note the people
behind the scandal were all right-wing. I'm not sure if I should laugh
at or feel sorry for people that think that Zukerberg and Bezos are
"communists". Sure, they want the State to confiscate Meta and Amakon
<implicit sarcasm>
    They say that Musk might even destroy the US as you know it
now. Depends on how much he influenced the vote. Musk is a right-wing
fascist, and privately - sometime publicly - defends dictatorships.
    Enough gullible idiots, and those psychopaths could vote a
pumpkin into office.
    Your problem is that people in your social circle are
probably more intelligent than the national average. Harder to con.
Usually think before giving an opinion. In my line of work I had
contact with all sorts.
    Believe me, the average human is very stupid...and
trusting(did I just plagiarize Zukerberg?)
    []'s
Hint: I can fix anything if I know how it works. I really believe
that and study how things really work before I try to fix them. That
also applies to government and the economy. We're not going to be
able to fix the government or economy until we have a good
understanding of how they work. The schools are trying, but the
problem has grown faster than the curriculum can keep up.
Words matter. Or ought to, anyway.
Fascist are of the left. The National Socialist Party was indeed
socialist, and they would know. The original was created by Mussolini
after the Great War as an extension of The Futurists, all of a piece
with socialist theory. Franco, supported by Germany and Italy, was also
a fascist of the left. His opponents were of the right- the Crown and
the Church.
Oh, and Mr Musk is not among them.
On 11/5/2024 8:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 6:33 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:17:32 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:15:44 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
Our biggest threat to democracy is the media/social media's
#FAKE_NEWS. That with a very poor public education. The people will
believe anything...
Maybe this will explain how it works. I don't recall who told me this >>>> story. Most likely my parents, aunts or uncles.
My ancestors were mostly from Poland and Russia. Up to the early 19th >>>> century, they didn't travel more than about 80km (50 miles) from home
for their entire lives. As is common in rural environments, strange
people and strange ideas are treated with suspicion. That created a
problem when they didn't know whom or what to believe. Communications >>>> and transportation was sufficiently lacking that "seeing is believing" >>>> was ineffective. Nobody believed what someone else claimed to have
seen. Instead, it was replaced by "hearing is believing", which meant >>>> that people believed and trusted the local authority figure. It could >>>> be a village elder, rabbi, priest, teacher or other recognized
authority. None of these had personally seen anything, but the weight >>>> of their authority was sufficient to make people listen and believe
their version of reality.
It's not so different today. Instead of a choice between believing
what one sees and hears, it's now a choice between what we have read
on social media or viewed on YouTube. The problem of "who to trust"
is also the same. However, instead of 2 choices, we now have hundreds >>>> of "influencers" bombarding us with their view of reality, which is
typically just propaganda. The problem isn't that people will believe >>>> "anything" but rather that they'll believe "everything" without any
guidelines, education, reference, sources, authorities, etc that they
can trust to help separate the truth from the propaganda. Most
politicians have given up on trying to appear honest and simply adjust >>>> their advocacy and promises to conform what their audience considers
acceptable. The mob no longer follows the leader. Instead, the
leader follows whatever the mob might want.
Social media and such are not threats to democracy. They are threats
to the republican form of government, where we elect representatives
to represent our opinions to the government. The problem is the
representatives don't use the same criteria for judgment that is used
by those who elected them to office. Politicians favor anything that
will enrich them and their friends through contributions and favors.
I've been involved in meetings with elected officials that make me
suspect that they are very badly informed about the issues that put
them in office and very well informed on the sources of cash and
influence that keep them in office.
I sort of disagree with you. Psychopaths behind companies like
X (ex-twitter), Meta, Google, Amakon and others more or less define
who/what people vote for. Old fashioned media like newspapers and TV
have some influence, but less, because they announce news for
everyone. Social media carefully tailors news for each individual.
An example? Brekshit....Facebook and Cambridge Analytica made
people vote for something they didn't even understand. Note the people
behind the scandal were all right-wing. I'm not sure if I should laugh
at or feel sorry for people that think that Zukerberg and Bezos are
"communists". Sure, they want the State to confiscate Meta and Amakon
<implicit sarcasm>
They say that Musk might even destroy the US as you know it
now. Depends on how much he influenced the vote. Musk is a right-wing
fascist, and privately - sometime publicly - defends dictatorships.
Enough gullible idiots, and those psychopaths could vote a
pumpkin into office.
Your problem is that people in your social circle are
probably more intelligent than the national average. Harder to con.
Usually think before giving an opinion. In my line of work I had
contact with all sorts.
Believe me, the average human is very stupid...and
trusting(did I just plagiarize Zukerberg?)
[]'s
Hint: I can fix anything if I know how it works. I really believe
that and study how things really work before I try to fix them. That
also applies to government and the economy. We're not going to be
able to fix the government or economy until we have a good
understanding of how they work. The schools are trying, but the
problem has grown faster than the curriculum can keep up.
Words matter. Or ought to, anyway.
Fascist are of the left. The National Socialist Party was indeed
socialist, and they would know. The original was created by Mussolini
after the Great War as an extension of The Futurists, all of a piece
with socialist theory. Franco, supported by Germany and Italy, was also
a fascist of the left. His opponents were of the right- the Crown and
the Church.
Oh, and Mr Musk is not among them.
He is now - soon to be the head of trumps newest cabinet position:
Secretary of Oligarchy.
On 11/5/2024 8:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 6:33 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:17:32 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:15:44 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br>
wrote:
Our biggest threat to democracy is the media/social
media's
#FAKE_NEWS. That with a very poor public education. The
people will
believe anything...
Maybe this will explain how it works. I don't recall
who told me this
story. Most likely my parents, aunts or uncles.
My ancestors were mostly from Poland and Russia. Up to
the early 19th
century, they didn't travel more than about 80km (50
miles) from home
for their entire lives. As is common in rural
environments, strange
people and strange ideas are treated with suspicion.
That created a
problem when they didn't know whom or what to believe.
Communications
and transportation was sufficiently lacking that "seeing
is believing"
was ineffective. Nobody believed what someone else
claimed to have
seen. Instead, it was replaced by "hearing is
believing", which meant
that people believed and trusted the local authority
figure. It could
be a village elder, rabbi, priest, teacher or other
recognized
authority. None of these had personally seen anything,
but the weight
of their authority was sufficient to make people listen
and believe
their version of reality.
It's not so different today. Instead of a choice
between believing
what one sees and hears, it's now a choice between what
we have read
on social media or viewed on YouTube. The problem of
"who to trust"
is also the same. However, instead of 2 choices, we now
have hundreds
of "influencers" bombarding us with their view of
reality, which is
typically just propaganda. The problem isn't that
people will believe
"anything" but rather that they'll believe "everything"
without any
guidelines, education, reference, sources, authorities,
etc that they
can trust to help separate the truth from the
propaganda. Most
politicians have given up on trying to appear honest and
simply adjust
their advocacy and promises to conform what their
audience considers
acceptable. The mob no longer follows the leader.
Instead, the
leader follows whatever the mob might want.
Social media and such are not threats to democracy.
They are threats
to the republican form of government, where we elect
representatives
to represent our opinions to the government. The
problem is the
representatives don't use the same criteria for judgment
that is used
by those who elected them to office. Politicians favor
anything that
will enrich them and their friends through contributions
and favors.
I've been involved in meetings with elected officials
that make me
suspect that they are very badly informed about the
issues that put
them in office and very well informed on the sources of
cash and
influence that keep them in office.
    I sort of disagree with you. Psychopaths behind
companies like
X (ex-twitter), Meta, Google, Amakon and others more or
less define
who/what people vote for. Old fashioned media like
newspapers and TV
have some influence, but less, because they announce news
for
everyone. Social media carefully tailors news for each
individual.
    An example? Brekshit....Facebook and Cambridge
Analytica made
people vote for something they didn't even understand.
Note the people
behind the scandal were all right-wing. I'm not sure if I
should laugh
at or feel sorry for people that think that Zukerberg and
Bezos are
"communists". Sure, they want the State to confiscate
Meta and Amakon
<implicit sarcasm>
    They say that Musk might even destroy the US as you
know it
now. Depends on how much he influenced the vote. Musk is
a right-wing
fascist, and privately - sometime publicly - defends
dictatorships.
    Enough gullible idiots, and those psychopaths could
vote a
pumpkin into office.
    Your problem is that people in your social circle are
probably more intelligent than the national average.
Harder to con.
Usually think before giving an opinion. In my line of
work I had
contact with all sorts.
    Believe me, the average human is very stupid...and
trusting(did I just plagiarize Zukerberg?)
    []'s
Hint: I can fix anything if I know how it works. I
really believe
that and study how things really work before I try to
fix them. That
also applies to government and the economy. We're not
going to be
able to fix the government or economy until we have a good
understanding of how they work. The schools are trying,
but the
problem has grown faster than the curriculum can keep up.
Words matter. Or ought to, anyway.
Fascist are of the left. The National Socialist Party was
indeed socialist, and they would know. The original was
created by Mussolini after the Great War as an extension
of The Futurists, all of a piece with socialist theory.
Franco, supported by Germany and Italy, was also a fascist
of the left. His opponents were of the right- the Crown
and the Church.
Oh, and Mr Musk is not among them.
He is now - soon to be the head of trumps newest cabinet
position: Secretary of Oligarchy.
On 11/6/2024 6:09 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/5/2024 8:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 6:33 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:17:32 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:15:44 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
Our biggest threat to democracy is the media/social media's
#FAKE_NEWS. That with a very poor public education. The people will >>>>>> believe anything...
Maybe this will explain how it works. I don't recall who told me this >>>>> story. Most likely my parents, aunts or uncles.
My ancestors were mostly from Poland and Russia. Up to the early 19th >>>>> century, they didn't travel more than about 80km (50 miles) from home >>>>> for their entire lives. As is common in rural environments, strange >>>>> people and strange ideas are treated with suspicion. That created a
problem when they didn't know whom or what to believe. Communications >>>>> and transportation was sufficiently lacking that "seeing is believing" >>>>> was ineffective. Nobody believed what someone else claimed to have >>>>> seen. Instead, it was replaced by "hearing is believing", which meant >>>>> that people believed and trusted the local authority figure. It could >>>>> be a village elder, rabbi, priest, teacher or other recognized
authority. None of these had personally seen anything, but the weight >>>>> of their authority was sufficient to make people listen and believe
their version of reality.
It's not so different today. Instead of a choice between believing >>>>> what one sees and hears, it's now a choice between what we have read >>>>> on social media or viewed on YouTube. The problem of "who to trust" >>>>> is also the same. However, instead of 2 choices, we now have hundreds >>>>> of "influencers" bombarding us with their view of reality, which is
typically just propaganda. The problem isn't that people will believe >>>>> "anything" but rather that they'll believe "everything" without any
guidelines, education, reference, sources, authorities, etc that they >>>>> can trust to help separate the truth from the propaganda. Most
politicians have given up on trying to appear honest and simply adjust >>>>> their advocacy and promises to conform what their audience considers >>>>> acceptable. The mob no longer follows the leader. Instead, the
leader follows whatever the mob might want.
Social media and such are not threats to democracy. They are threats >>>>> to the republican form of government, where we elect representatives >>>>> to represent our opinions to the government. The problem is the
representatives don't use the same criteria for judgment that is used >>>>> by those who elected them to office. Politicians favor anything that >>>>> will enrich them and their friends through contributions and favors. >>>>> I've been involved in meetings with elected officials that make me
suspect that they are very badly informed about the issues that put
them in office and very well informed on the sources of cash and
influence that keep them in office.
    I sort of disagree with you. Psychopaths behind companies like >>>> X (ex-twitter), Meta, Google, Amakon and others more or less define
who/what people vote for. Old fashioned media like newspapers and TV
have some influence, but less, because they announce news for
everyone. Social media carefully tailors news for each individual.
    An example? Brekshit....Facebook and Cambridge Analytica made
people vote for something they didn't even understand. Note the people >>>> behind the scandal were all right-wing. I'm not sure if I should laugh >>>> at or feel sorry for people that think that Zukerberg and Bezos are
"communists". Sure, they want the State to confiscate Meta and Amakon
<implicit sarcasm>
    They say that Musk might even destroy the US as you know it
now. Depends on how much he influenced the vote. Musk is a right-wing
fascist, and privately - sometime publicly - defends dictatorships.
    Enough gullible idiots, and those psychopaths could vote a
pumpkin into office.
    Your problem is that people in your social circle are
probably more intelligent than the national average. Harder to con.
Usually think before giving an opinion. In my line of work I had
contact with all sorts.
    Believe me, the average human is very stupid...and
trusting(did I just plagiarize Zukerberg?)
    []'s
Hint: I can fix anything if I know how it works. I really believe >>>>> that and study how things really work before I try to fix them. That >>>>> also applies to government and the economy. We're not going to be
able to fix the government or economy until we have a good
understanding of how they work. The schools are trying, but the
problem has grown faster than the curriculum can keep up.
Words matter. Or ought to, anyway.
Fascist are of the left. The National Socialist Party was indeed
socialist, and they would know. The original was created by Mussolini
after the Great War as an extension of The Futurists, all of a piece
with socialist theory. Franco, supported by Germany and Italy, was
also a fascist of the left. His opponents were of the right- the
Crown and the Church.
Oh, and Mr Musk is not among them.
He is now - soon to be the head of trumps newest cabinet position:
Secretary of Oligarchy.
I was just plain wrong in the post cited above. I apologize.
I deleted it after my ride this morning but not before you replied,
making my mistake immortal.
On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 07:09:13 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 11/5/2024 8:31 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2024 6:33 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:17:32 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:15:44 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
Our biggest threat to democracy is the media/social media's
#FAKE_NEWS. That with a very poor public education. The people will >>>>>> believe anything...
Maybe this will explain how it works. I don't recall who told me this >>>>> story. Most likely my parents, aunts or uncles.
My ancestors were mostly from Poland and Russia. Up to the early 19th >>>>> century, they didn't travel more than about 80km (50 miles) from home >>>>> for their entire lives. As is common in rural environments, strange >>>>> people and strange ideas are treated with suspicion. That created a >>>>> problem when they didn't know whom or what to believe. Communications >>>>> and transportation was sufficiently lacking that "seeing is believing" >>>>> was ineffective. Nobody believed what someone else claimed to have >>>>> seen. Instead, it was replaced by "hearing is believing", which meant >>>>> that people believed and trusted the local authority figure. It could >>>>> be a village elder, rabbi, priest, teacher or other recognized
authority. None of these had personally seen anything, but the weight >>>>> of their authority was sufficient to make people listen and believe
their version of reality.
It's not so different today. Instead of a choice between believing >>>>> what one sees and hears, it's now a choice between what we have read >>>>> on social media or viewed on YouTube. The problem of "who to trust" >>>>> is also the same. However, instead of 2 choices, we now have hundreds >>>>> of "influencers" bombarding us with their view of reality, which is
typically just propaganda. The problem isn't that people will believe >>>>> "anything" but rather that they'll believe "everything" without any
guidelines, education, reference, sources, authorities, etc that they >>>>> can trust to help separate the truth from the propaganda. Most
politicians have given up on trying to appear honest and simply adjust >>>>> their advocacy and promises to conform what their audience considers >>>>> acceptable. The mob no longer follows the leader. Instead, the
leader follows whatever the mob might want.
Social media and such are not threats to democracy. They are threats >>>>> to the republican form of government, where we elect representatives >>>>> to represent our opinions to the government. The problem is the
representatives don't use the same criteria for judgment that is used >>>>> by those who elected them to office. Politicians favor anything that >>>>> will enrich them and their friends through contributions and favors. >>>>> I've been involved in meetings with elected officials that make me
suspect that they are very badly informed about the issues that put
them in office and very well informed on the sources of cash and
influence that keep them in office.
    I sort of disagree with you. Psychopaths behind companies like >>>> X (ex-twitter), Meta, Google, Amakon and others more or less define
who/what people vote for. Old fashioned media like newspapers and TV
have some influence, but less, because they announce news for
everyone. Social media carefully tailors news for each individual.
    An example? Brekshit....Facebook and Cambridge Analytica made >>>> people vote for something they didn't even understand. Note the people >>>> behind the scandal were all right-wing. I'm not sure if I should laugh >>>> at or feel sorry for people that think that Zukerberg and Bezos are
"communists". Sure, they want the State to confiscate Meta and Amakon
<implicit sarcasm>
    They say that Musk might even destroy the US as you know it
now. Depends on how much he influenced the vote. Musk is a right-wing
fascist, and privately - sometime publicly - defends dictatorships.
    Enough gullible idiots, and those psychopaths could vote a
pumpkin into office.
    Your problem is that people in your social circle are
probably more intelligent than the national average. Harder to con.
Usually think before giving an opinion. In my line of work I had
contact with all sorts.
    Believe me, the average human is very stupid...and
trusting(did I just plagiarize Zukerberg?)
    []'s
Hint: I can fix anything if I know how it works. I really believe >>>>> that and study how things really work before I try to fix them. That >>>>> also applies to government and the economy. We're not going to be
able to fix the government or economy until we have a good
understanding of how they work. The schools are trying, but the
problem has grown faster than the curriculum can keep up.
Words matter. Or ought to, anyway.
Fascist are of the left. The National Socialist Party was indeed
socialist, and they would know. The original was created by Mussolini
after the Great War as an extension of The Futurists, all of a piece
with socialist theory. Franco, supported by Germany and Italy, was also
a fascist of the left. His opponents were of the right- the Crown and
the Church.
Oh, and Mr Musk is not among them.
He is now - soon to be the head of trumps newest cabinet position:
Secretary of Oligarchy.
LOL. Runs in the family. Musk's maternal grandfather was a
far-right wing fascist that defended dictatorships. After his party
was made illegal in Canada he was arrested and eventually kicked out.
He chose South Africa as his home ... where he supported
racism(he was both anti-black and anti-semitic) and the genocides.
Well, he's getting a second chance now, though his genes.
Funny thing is, his photo when he was young is practically
identical to Musk's.
[]'s
PS fascists can be left or right wing. The term comes from the
latin for "everyone has the same ideas". Easily induced when the
leader is a populist, as were Hitler and Mussolini. Both of which were
backed by big corps and banks.
There was nothing socialist about
either of them.
On 11/17/2024 5:07 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Jul 15 14:19:13 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/15/2024 12:35 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:Why do you pretend to know so much more than I do?
On Mon Jul 1 14:15:52 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/1/2024 11:50 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
You clearly stated that if you stand in a parking lot and tip your bike over that it would shoot out from under you ...
Nope, I said essentially the opposite. I suggested you try standing tall >>>> during a track stand, for maximum potential energy, then dropping to the >>>> saddle. I noted that the reduction in PE does _not_ generate an increase >>>> in Kinetic Energy in that case. There's no mechanism for it to do so. >>>>
Sorry you found that confusing; but I'm not surprised.
Krygowski, you want ME to cite your exact words bereft of what you were actually addressing so I am sure that my exact words were at least as accurate as yours since I was addressing the facts.
Lowering the center of gravity in a gravity field of a moving body ADDS energy to the mass. Either tell us where is goes or STOP trying to imply it doesn't.
Lowering the center of mass does not necessarily add kinetic energy to
the mass. Again, as I said:
"I suggested you try standing tall
during a track stand, for maximum potential energy, then dropping to the >> saddle. I noted that the reduction in PE does _not_ generate an increase >> in Kinetic Energy in that case. There's no mechanism for it to do so."
You've provided no evidence that tilting over in a curve makes a
bike+rider faster, which was the original point under discussion. Your
loud and frantic assertions are proving nothing.
You mean about engineering dynamics, that branch of physics dealing with potential and kinetic energy that was part of my degree, part of the
test used to earn my PE license, and which I taught for many years at
the university?
I'm not pretending, Tom. You are.
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- Frank Krygowski
On 11/17/2024 5:07 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Jul 15 14:19:13 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/15/2024 12:35 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Mon Jul 1 14:15:52 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/1/2024 11:50 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
You clearly stated that if you stand in a parking lot and tip your bike over that it would shoot out from under you ...
Nope, I said essentially the opposite. I suggested you try standing tall >>>> during a track stand, for maximum potential energy, then dropping to the >>>> saddle. I noted that the reduction in PE does _not_ generate an increase >>>> in Kinetic Energy in that case. There's no mechanism for it to do so. >>>>
Sorry you found that confusing; but I'm not surprised.
Krygowski, you want ME to cite your exact words bereft of what you were actually addressing so I am sure that my exact words were at least as accurate as yours since I was addressing the facts.
Lowering the center of gravity in a gravity field of a moving body ADDS energy to the mass. Either tell us where is goes or STOP trying to imply it doesn't.
Lowering the center of mass does not necessarily add kinetic energy to
the mass. Again, as I said:
"I suggested you try standing tall
during a track stand, for maximum potential energy, then dropping to the >> saddle. I noted that the reduction in PE does _not_ generate an increase >> in Kinetic Energy in that case. There's no mechanism for it to do so."
You've provided no evidence that tilting over in a curve makes a
bike+rider faster, which was the original point under discussion. Your
loud and frantic assertions are proving nothing.
--
- Frank Krygowski
Why do you pretend to know so much more than I do?
IF anyone is pretending in this forum, it isn't Frank.
Does that in some way make you feel more like and engineer and less like a teacher? BTW, I rode Trials so you're not informing anyone about anything.
Complete bullshit. Besides, it doesn't require an understanding of the
physic behind trials riding to be a good trials rider.
The question was asking Liebermann to THINK about where energy goes when it is expended.
You probably should have asked yourself that question before
embarrassing yourself.
Energy is neither created nor distroyed.
True, but irrelevant to fundamental point of the discussion.
On 12/17/2024 11:20 AM, cyclintom wrote:
On Fri Nov 15 13:35:49 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/15/2024 12:21 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Nov 14 16:48:09 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/14/2024 4:15 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Nov 14 16:06:52 2024 Zen Cycle wrote:
On 11/14/2024 3:58 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Nov 14 14:07:24 2024 AMuzi wrote:
On 11/14/2024 1:58 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Thu Nov 14 12:36:36 2024 AMuzi wrote:
On 11/14/2024 12:28 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Abbott just offerred me a two jobs but they are out of state. But Flunky said that they are looking for embedded specialists in Alameda.
I don't know, Mr Zen doesn't know and you don't know what >>>>>>>>>> work is done at any given Abbott facility, especially not at >>>>>>>>>> your neighborhood building.
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Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Several of the job openings of the 113 that Flunky quoted were my specialty so why would they need me in other states where they would have to pay me reolocation?
No legal requirement; entirely depends on Abbott personnel
policy for any given position. It's a matter between you and >>>>>>>> the employer only.
But hey why ask us? Contact Abbott directly!
https://www.jobs.abbott/us/en/home
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Abbott has contacted ME directly and offered me jobs in either Abbott Park, Illinois or Abilene, Texas.
no, they didn't.
I think that pretty much kills Flunky's claims that they have 113 job openings in Alameda, CA.
It's not my claim,
It's Abbotts claim, and it's now 122.
https://www.jobs.abbott/us/en/search-results?keywords=alameda
Abbott also messaged me that they have 1710 openings. They also have an opening for my specialty in India and Costa Rica.
I'm sure they have janitorial staff openings everywhere.
But I would only take a local job where I could talk directly to the supervisor.
https://www.jobs.abbott/us/en/job/31081406/Embedded-Software-Engineer >>>>>> "This position works out of our Alameda, CA location"
"The base pay for this position is $83,600.00 ? $167,200.00"
https://www.jobs.abbott/us/en/job/31094109/Principal-Embedded-Software-Engineer
"This position works out of our Alameda, CA location"
"The base pay for this position is $125,700.00 ? $251,500.00"
I guess that pretty much kills tommy's claim that there are no jobs >>>>>> available in alameda.
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Nobody wants a know nothing that steals from his employer.
You're right. If I ever run into one, I'll let you know.
If you think that isn't theft than give us the name of your company and I will show them your postings and dates and times and let them decide.
where did you ever get the idea I would acquiesce to one of your demands?
Besides that, you'd have to take the time to put together a list of my >>>> postings organized by date and time, then show the amount of time I
actually took to read and respond to the messages. Considering you think >>>> that calculating average speed is a complicated algorithm, that would be >>>> a rather daunting task for you.
My boss (director of engineering) is Indian. He just got back from a two >>>> week trip to his homeland. During todays Project Status review which >>>> included him, me, the senior software, hardware, and Mechanical
engineers, director of marketing, and the CEO, my boss spent 15 minutes >>>> talking about attending the Diwali festival in his hometown, complete >>>> with showing pictures on the presentation monitor.
Should we all have turned ourselves in to HR for 'stealing' a cumulative >>>> 90 minutes, all at senior engineering/management staff salaries?
That's how a _real_ engineering position in a _real_ engineering
department generally works. This is how I know you've never had a real >>>> engineering position. You harp about "working hours" and when a person >>>> should be working - this is not the hallmark of a salaried engineering >>>> professional.
Oh, that would be really hard. So hard that you couldn't do it. But I could.
You can't even follow links from this forum
Tell us your company moron.
where did you ever get the idea I would acquiesce to one of your demands?
It is only the rare link that Liebermann posts that Bit defender will allow.
nope, no one else has issues and we all have some sort of AV/malware.
Your links more frequenty go thRough but inevitably they are now what you think they are.
Please provide a reference to a link that didn't contain the information
I claimed it did.
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