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  • Re: Monarch 10EE lathe

    From jason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 2 17:31:35 2022
    I have a 10EE I purchased from a Government Auction in mint condition. If someone is looking for one I will make them an excellent deal. Located in California

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to jason on Wed Nov 2 12:15:36 2022
    On 11/2/2022 10:31 AM, jason wrote:
    I have a 10EE I purchased from a Government Auction in mint condition.
    If someone is looking for one I will make them an excellent deal.
    Located in California



    That sounds awesome except I don't think you could make it excellent to
    fit my budget right now.

    Still, I am sure I'm not the only one who would love to see some pictures.

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  • From Richard Smith@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 3 05:48:15 2022
    Anyone know what those lathes were used for?
    I looked up the electrical side - continuously monitored and
    continuously varible speed using various "valve-like" devices
    pre-electronics - and wondered it it was for turning spherical objects
    in "awkward" alloys?

    I had a mind's-eye vision of shortly post WW2 in the new upbeat
    prosperity decendents of "rust-belt" immigrant factory workers in the
    new South-West (California, etc.), living the dream, in
    cigarette-smoke-filled offices telling the Government whether certain components could be made and what they'd need - as fitments to the
    10EE.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 3 07:37:25 2022
    "Richard Smith" wrote in message news:lyiljw7fmo.fsf@void.com...

    Anyone know what those lathes were used for?
    I looked up the electrical side - continuously monitored and
    continuously varible speed using various "valve-like" devices
    pre-electronics - and wondered it it was for turning spherical objects
    in "awkward" alloys?

    I had a mind's-eye vision of shortly post WW2 in the new upbeat
    prosperity decendents of "rust-belt" immigrant factory workers in the
    new South-West (California, etc.), living the dream, in
    cigarette-smoke-filled offices telling the Government whether certain components could be made and what they'd need - as fitments to the
    10EE.

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    I saw a large Monarch at an auction that was said to have made torpedos.
    They are highly regarded as competing with the Hardinge HLV as the finest precision lathes for instrument work. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/05/gears-of-war-when-mechanical-analog-computers-ruled-the-waves/

    According to a no longer available article by Jim Kizale the Hardinge
    replaced the South Bend Heavy 10 like mine at the US National Bureau of Standards. He thought the South Bend was more versatile and nearly as
    accurate. Mine unfortunately went to a trade school where it was abused,
    though I've made some military and space program prototypes on it.

    http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Thu Nov 3 12:58:15 2022
    On 11/3/2022 4:37 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Richard Smith"  wrote in message news:lyiljw7fmo.fsf@void.com...

    Anyone know what those lathes were used for?
    I looked up the electrical side - continuously monitored and
    continuously varible speed using various "valve-like" devices
    pre-electronics - and wondered it it was for turning spherical objects
    in "awkward" alloys?

    I had a mind's-eye vision of shortly post WW2 in the new upbeat
    prosperity decendents of "rust-belt" immigrant factory workers in the
    new South-West (California, etc.), living the dream, in cigarette-smoke-filled offices telling the Government whether certain components could be made and what they'd need - as fitments to the
    10EE.

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    I saw a large Monarch at an auction that was said to have made torpedos.
    They are highly regarded as competing with the Hardinge HLV as the
    finest precision lathes for instrument work. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/05/gears-of-war-when-mechanical-analog-computers-ruled-the-waves/

    According to a no longer available article by Jim Kizale the Hardinge replaced the South Bend Heavy 10 like mine at the US National Bureau of Standards. He thought the South Bend was more versatile and nearly as accurate. Mine unfortunately went to a trade school where it was abused, though I've made some military and space program prototypes on it.

    http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html


    Interesting, "In early 2021, Hardinge moved the manufacture of our
    Bridgeport® Vertical Machining Centers and Hardinge® CNC Lathes from
    Taiwan to Elmira, NY. This move allowed us to consolidate product
    development, supply chain, and assembly operations for Hardinge’s
    Americas and Europe turning and milling business to a single U.S.-based location."

    I had heard Hardinge had been off shored. It looks like they moved
    back. I noticed the quote only refers to their CNC machines. Not the
    rest of their product line.

    Where as I think Monarch has never been off shored.






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  • From Richard Smith@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Thu Nov 3 22:46:56 2022
    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

    http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html

    FWIW
    I know the fellow who provides that website, and I am only about 3
    miles from where he is based at this moment.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Fri Nov 4 06:41:04 2022
    "Richard Smith" wrote in message news:lytu3fzme7.fsf@void.com...

    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

    http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html

    FWIW
    I know the fellow who provides that website, and I am only about 3
    miles from where he is based at this moment.

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    He's done a very impressive and thorough job with that website. I'm the
    person who recently asked him if he could identify what appears to be a
    small precision lathe headstock with a "Burnerd" chuck, then I caught RSV
    and didn't respond for his request for photos until I recovered.

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  • From Richard Smith@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sat Nov 5 22:09:44 2022
    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

    "Richard Smith" wrote in message news:lytu3fzme7.fsf@void.com...

    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

    http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html

    FWIW
    I know the fellow who provides that website, and I am only about 3
    miles from where he is based at this moment.

    ----------------------

    He's done a very impressive and thorough job with that website. I'm
    the person who recently asked him if he could identify what appears to
    be a small precision lathe headstock with a "Burnerd" chuck, then I
    caught RSV and didn't respond for his request for photos until I
    recovered.

    Did you send your apologies?
    I could drop-by and mention you if you want...

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sun Nov 6 07:24:12 2022
    "Richard Smith" wrote in message news:lyk049yrx3.fsf@void.com...

    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

    "Richard Smith" wrote in message news:lytu3fzme7.fsf@void.com...

    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

    http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html

    FWIW
    I know the fellow who provides that website, and I am only about 3
    miles from where he is based at this moment.

    ----------------------

    He's done a very impressive and thorough job with that website. I'm
    the person who recently asked him if he could identify what appears to
    be a small precision lathe headstock with a "Burnerd" chuck, then I
    caught RSV and didn't respond for his request for photos until I
    recovered.

    Did you send your apologies?
    I could drop-by and mention you if you want...

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    That's OK, the origin of the part isn't important unless it turns out to be valuable for someone else's restoration project. I was hoping he could immediately identify it by its unusual 7/8" - 38 TPI chuck mounting thread
    and not need to waste time researching it. The 38 TPI thread gauge fits
    better than the nearest metric ones. I don't even know that it's a lathe headstock versus an accessory.

    I planned to adapt it to my Sears AA lathe, or else turn a stiffer solid spindle for the AA. After I acquired a South Bend the little lathe has
    served only for high speed polishing and drilling small deep grease holes in axles.
    jsw

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  • From Richard Smith@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Fri Nov 11 08:18:08 2022
    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

    He's done a very impressive and thorough job with that website. I'm
    the person who recently asked him if he could identify what appears to
    be a small precision lathe headstock with a "Burnerd" chuck, then I
    caught RSV and didn't respond for his request for photos until I
    recovered.

    I called by and passed on your thanks.

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