• McMaster Again - Their unfair reputation on price

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 11 10:03:25 2022
    Recently in my search for Metric stainless rod stock McMaster Carr had
    the best price. By a lot. The next best quote was almost double. It
    was still 4 times more expensive than similar size standard inch stock,
    but it was definitely the best price of those vendors who had a price on
    line or were able to provide a quote.

    Often I find they are best priced on other things as well. While I was searching for rod stock I was also shopping for stainless TIG wire. I
    use it for pull pins in some molds. Its stainless so its low reaction
    with other metals, its on size, and unless its been abused in transit
    its very straight. It tends to be marginally cheaper than stainless
    sold as rod stock, and it doesn't need to be straightened like a coil.

    I did a quick check online for 1/8" 308 TIG wire. In the past importers
    on eBay have typically had the best price, but for a 5 pound bag
    McMaster was $10 cheaper. Yes there is shipping on top of that with
    McMaster, but the shipping on that one item was less than $10 and
    McMaster-Carr seems to always sell a top quality product.

    On items I buy routinely I always check McMaster and often they surprise
    me. I also buy from them if they are only close to other vendors on
    price, because they are 100% behind their product, and amazingly behind
    me as a customer even if a problem is not their fault. I won't pay them
    a huge difference, but I will pay a little more once in a while just to
    order things from a minimum of vendors.

    P.S. Maybe the local Linde store (formerly Praxair) would have given me
    a marginally better price, but it would have taken an hour or more plus
    fuel to go get it. Drive, wait, talk, pay, drive... its only a few
    miles away, but that still takes a little time. I do like to chat with
    Mike (the manager) though. He's the only welding store manager I've
    ever dealt with who treated my small amount of business likes its
    important, and we have some common interests. Maybe next time Mike.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 11 12:56:46 2022
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tklv8u$ftf$1@gioia.aioe.org...

    Recently in my search for Metric stainless rod stock McMaster Carr had
    the best price. By a lot. The next best quote was almost double. It
    was still 4 times more expensive than similar size standard inch stock,
    but it was definitely the best price of those vendors who had a price on
    line or were able to provide a quote.

    Often I find they are best priced on other things as well. While I was searching for rod stock I was also shopping for stainless TIG wire. I
    use it for pull pins in some molds. Its stainless so its low reaction
    with other metals, its on size, and unless its been abused in transit
    its very straight. It tends to be marginally cheaper than stainless
    sold as rod stock, and it doesn't need to be straightened like a coil.

    I did a quick check online for 1/8" 308 TIG wire. In the past importers
    on eBay have typically had the best price, but for a 5 pound bag
    McMaster was $10 cheaper. Yes there is shipping on top of that with
    McMaster, but the shipping on that one item was less than $10 and
    McMaster-Carr seems to always sell a top quality product.

    On items I buy routinely I always check McMaster and often they surprise
    me. I also buy from them if they are only close to other vendors on
    price, because they are 100% behind their product, and amazingly behind
    me as a customer even if a problem is not their fault. I won't pay them
    a huge difference, but I will pay a little more once in a while just to
    order things from a minimum of vendors.

    P.S. Maybe the local Linde store (formerly Praxair) would have given me
    a marginally better price, but it would have taken an hour or more plus
    fuel to go get it. Drive, wait, talk, pay, drive... its only a few
    miles away, but that still takes a little time. I do like to chat with
    Mike (the manager) though. He's the only welding store manager I've
    ever dealt with who treated my small amount of business likes its
    important, and we have some common interests. Maybe next time Mike.

    ----------------

    Stainless TIG wire makes adequate replacement coil springs for garden hose spray nozzles when the original rusts out. It's quicker to wind one on the lathe than to clean up and drive to the hardware store, and the better
    quality repairable nozzles aren't cheap.

    A conical coiled stainless TIG wire handle I made for the door latch of my
    wood stove doesn't get hot although the iron close behind it reaches
    300-400F.

    Hinges with their original pins removed can be used to connect temporary panels, such as extended height trailer sides. Stainless TIG wire bent into
    L or safety pin shapes makes handy substitute hinge pins that are easy to
    find if dropped.
    jsw

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  • From David Billington@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Fri Nov 11 19:58:07 2022
    On 11/11/2022 17:03, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Recently in my search for Metric stainless rod stock McMaster Carr had
    the best price.  By a lot.  The next best quote was almost double.  It
    was still 4 times more expensive than similar size standard inch
    stock, but it was definitely the best price of those vendors who had a
    price on line or were able to provide a quote.

    Often I find they are best priced on other things as well.  While I
    was searching for rod stock I was also shopping for stainless TIG
    wire.  I use it for pull pins in some molds.  Its stainless so its low reaction with other metals, its on size, and unless its been abused in transit its very straight.  It tends to be marginally cheaper than
    stainless sold as rod stock, and it doesn't need to be straightened
    like a coil.

    I did a quick check online for 1/8" 308 TIG wire.  In the past
    importers on eBay have typically had the best price, but for a 5 pound
    bag McMaster was $10 cheaper.  Yes there is shipping on top of that
    with McMaster, but the shipping on that one item was less than $10 and McMaster-Carr seems to always sell a top quality product.

    On items I buy routinely I always check McMaster and often they
    surprise me.  I also buy from them if they are only close to other
    vendors on price, because they are 100% behind their product, and
    amazingly behind me as a customer even if a problem is not their
    fault.  I won't pay them a huge difference, but I will pay a little
    more once in a while just to order things from a minimum of vendors.

    P.S.  Maybe the local Linde store (formerly Praxair) would have given
    me a marginally better price, but it would have taken an hour or more
    plus fuel to go get it.  Drive, wait, talk, pay, drive...  its only a
    few miles away, but that still takes a little time.  I do like to chat
    with Mike (the manager) though.  He's the only welding store manager
    I've ever dealt with who treated my small amount of business likes its important, and we have some common interests.  Maybe next time Mike.

    Here in the UK I don't find any real difference whether it's inch or
    metric but then we went metric quite a bit earlier so now more metric
    used but still enough demand for inch. I don't know for sure but I would
    expect the situation in Europe to mirror yours with inch sizes being
    quite a bit more expensive due to lack of demand.

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to David Billington on Fri Nov 11 14:12:05 2022
    On 11/11/2022 12:58 PM, David Billington wrote:
    On 11/11/2022 17:03, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Recently in my search for Metric stainless rod stock McMaster Carr had
    the best price.  By a lot.  The next best quote was almost double.  It
    was still 4 times more expensive than similar size standard inch
    stock, but it was definitely the best price of those vendors who had a
    price on line or were able to provide a quote.

    Often I find they are best priced on other things as well.  While I
    was searching for rod stock I was also shopping for stainless TIG
    wire.  I use it for pull pins in some molds.  Its stainless so its low
    reaction with other metals, its on size, and unless its been abused in
    transit its very straight.  It tends to be marginally cheaper than
    stainless sold as rod stock, and it doesn't need to be straightened
    like a coil.

    I did a quick check online for 1/8" 308 TIG wire.  In the past
    importers on eBay have typically had the best price, but for a 5 pound
    bag McMaster was $10 cheaper.  Yes there is shipping on top of that
    with McMaster, but the shipping on that one item was less than $10 and
    McMaster-Carr seems to always sell a top quality product.

    On items I buy routinely I always check McMaster and often they
    surprise me.  I also buy from them if they are only close to other
    vendors on price, because they are 100% behind their product, and
    amazingly behind me as a customer even if a problem is not their
    fault.  I won't pay them a huge difference, but I will pay a little
    more once in a while just to order things from a minimum of vendors.

    P.S.  Maybe the local Linde store (formerly Praxair) would have given
    me a marginally better price, but it would have taken an hour or more
    plus fuel to go get it.  Drive, wait, talk, pay, drive...  its only a
    few miles away, but that still takes a little time.  I do like to chat
    with Mike (the manager) though.  He's the only welding store manager
    I've ever dealt with who treated my small amount of business likes its
    important, and we have some common interests.  Maybe next time Mike.

    Here in the UK I don't find any real difference whether it's inch or
    metric but then we went metric quite a bit earlier so now more metric
    used but still enough demand for inch. I don't know for sure but I would expect the situation in Europe to mirror yours with inch sizes being
    quite a bit more expensive due to lack of demand.




    I think we pay more for metal in small quantities in general than in
    many other countries. Maybe its just observational bias on my part.

    Its a tax on small businesses charged by the metal vendors and collected
    by the big businesses. LOL. "If you can survive on crumbs knock
    yourself out."

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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff


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