• Material Choice

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 29 12:07:36 2024
    I need to make a mounting adapter for the the ballscrew I plan to use on
    the Y axis of the Hurco mill. On hand I have oodles (not quite a crap
    ton) of 6061, a little bit of MIC6, a little ATP 5, some 7075 (bought
    for a "special" project), and a decent amount of 4140HT not reserved for anything.

    The 7075 would likely be the best of the aluminum alloys. Its the
    strongest, but like I said. I bought it for a "special" project.

    The strongest by a lot would be the 4140HT, but it has its issues. Its
    tough to machine, but I can do it. It would have the least flex, or compression, but it can warp during machining. I do have a toy surface grinder, but it has no coolant setup. I have no desire to warp it even
    more trying it grind it flat after machining.

    In between would be cast iron (very expensive) and mild steel (likely
    1018) of which I have neither on hand suitable for this adapter.

    For context, the adapter will bolt onto the location where the old ball
    nut was, and the new ball nut will bolt on to it. It doesn't have to be absolutely perfect, but it does need to be "pretty good."

    Ideas? Suggestions? Warnings?



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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 29 17:00:45 2024
    On Wed, 29 May 2024 12:07:36 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    I need to make a mounting adapter for the the ballscrew I plan to use on
    the Y axis of the Hurco mill. On hand I have oodles (not quite a crap
    ton) of 6061, a little bit of MIC6, a little ATP 5, some 7075 (bought
    for a "special" project), and a decent amount of 4140HT not reserved for >anything.

    The 7075 would likely be the best of the aluminum alloys. Its the
    strongest, but like I said. I bought it for a "special" project.

    The strongest by a lot would be the 4140HT, but it has its issues. Its
    tough to machine, but I can do it. It would have the least flex, or >compression, but it can warp during machining. I do have a toy surface >grinder, but it has no coolant setup. I have no desire to warp it even
    more trying it grind it flat after machining.

    In between would be cast iron (very expensive) and mild steel (likely
    1018) of which I have neither on hand suitable for this adapter.

    For context, the adapter will bolt onto the location where the old ball
    nut was, and the new ball nut will bolt on to it. It doesn't have to be >absolutely perfect, but it does need to be "pretty good."

    Ideas? Suggestions? Warnings?

    A sketch of the desired adapter plate would help.

    I would use and design for 6061, and only if that cannot work, worry
    about other materials, and the reason that 6061 flunked will be
    informative.

    Joe Gwinn

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  • From Clare Snyder@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 30 22:03:49 2024
    On Wed, 29 May 2024 12:07:36 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    I need to make a mounting adapter for the the ballscrew I plan to use on
    the Y axis of the Hurco mill. On hand I have oodles (not quite a crap
    ton) of 6061, a little bit of MIC6, a little ATP 5, some 7075 (bought
    for a "special" project), and a decent amount of 4140HT not reserved for >anything.

    The 7075 would likely be the best of the aluminum alloys. Its the
    strongest, but like I said. I bought it for a "special" project.

    The strongest by a lot would be the 4140HT, but it has its issues. Its
    tough to machine, but I can do it. It would have the least flex, or >compression, but it can warp during machining. I do have a toy surface >grinder, but it has no coolant setup. I have no desire to warp it even
    more trying it grind it flat after machining.

    In between would be cast iron (very expensive) and mild steel (likely
    1018) of which I have neither on hand suitable for this adapter.

    For context, the adapter will bolt onto the location where the old ball
    nut was, and the new ball nut will bolt on to it. It doesn't have to be >absolutely perfect, but it does need to be "pretty good."

    Ideas? Suggestions? Warnings?



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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff
    You think the stress would be too high for 6061T6?? Machines easily.

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Clare Snyder on Thu May 30 22:22:35 2024
    On 5/30/2024 9:03 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Wed, 29 May 2024 12:07:36 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    I need to make a mounting adapter for the the ballscrew I plan to use on
    the Y axis of the Hurco mill. On hand I have oodles (not quite a crap
    ton) of 6061, a little bit of MIC6, a little ATP 5, some 7075 (bought
    for a "special" project), and a decent amount of 4140HT not reserved for
    anything.

    The 7075 would likely be the best of the aluminum alloys. Its the
    strongest, but like I said. I bought it for a "special" project.

    The strongest by a lot would be the 4140HT, but it has its issues. Its
    tough to machine, but I can do it. It would have the least flex, or
    compression, but it can warp during machining. I do have a toy surface
    grinder, but it has no coolant setup. I have no desire to warp it even
    more trying it grind it flat after machining.

    In between would be cast iron (very expensive) and mild steel (likely
    1018) of which I have neither on hand suitable for this adapter.

    For context, the adapter will bolt onto the location where the old ball
    nut was, and the new ball nut will bolt on to it. It doesn't have to be
    absolutely perfect, but it does need to be "pretty good."

    Ideas? Suggestions? Warnings?



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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff
    You think the stress would be too high for 6061T6?? Machines easily.


    That's what I used to make an adapter plate to mount a power feed on my
    mill . I'm pretty sure the acceleration loading on the ball screw is
    going to be many times what my power feed produces on the acme screw .
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    Snag
    "They may take our lives but
    they'll never take our freedom."
    William Wallace

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  • From Peter Fairbrother@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Fri May 31 16:53:40 2024
    On 29/05/2024 20:07, Bob La Londe wrote:
    I need to make a mounting adapter for the the ballscrew I plan to use on
    the Y axis of the Hurco mill.  On hand I have oodles (not quite a crap
    ton) of 6061, a little bit of MIC6, a little ATP 5, some 7075 (bought
    for a "special" project), and a decent amount of 4140HT not reserved for anything.

    The 7075 would likely be the best of the aluminum alloys.  Its the strongest, but like I said.  I bought it for a "special" project.

    The strongest by a lot would be the 4140HT, but it has its issues.  Its tough to machine, but I can do it.   It would have the least flex, or compression, but it can warp during machining.  I do have a toy surface grinder, but it has no coolant setup.  I have no desire to warp it even
    more trying it grind it flat after machining.

    In between would be cast iron (very expensive) and mild steel (likely
    1018) of which I have neither on hand suitable for this adapter.

    For context, the adapter will bolt onto the location where the old ball
    nut was, and the new ball nut will bolt on to it.  It doesn't have to be absolutely perfect, but it does need to be "pretty good."

    Ideas?  Suggestions?  Warnings?

    I gather that you don't do much very-high-precision work? If so then
    6061 will be strong enough, and is easy to machine. As far as I can
    tell, most of the ones you buy are 6061 or similar.

    If it's going to be overly stressed then supersize it, but in most cases
    I wouldn't bother.

    Peter Fairbrother

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Peter Fairbrother on Fri May 31 14:20:08 2024
    On 5/31/2024 8:53 AM, Peter Fairbrother wrote:
    On 29/05/2024 20:07, Bob La Londe wrote:
    I need to make a mounting adapter for the the ballscrew I plan to use
    on the Y axis of the Hurco mill.  On hand I have oodles (not quite a
    crap ton) of 6061, a little bit of MIC6, a little ATP 5, some 7075
    (bought for a "special" project), and a decent amount of 4140HT not
    reserved for anything.

    The 7075 would likely be the best of the aluminum alloys.  Its the
    strongest, but like I said.  I bought it for a "special" project.

    The strongest by a lot would be the 4140HT, but it has its issues.
    Its tough to machine, but I can do it.   It would have the least flex,
    or compression, but it can warp during machining.  I do have a toy
    surface grinder, but it has no coolant setup.  I have no desire to
    warp it even more trying it grind it flat after machining.

    In between would be cast iron (very expensive) and mild steel (likely
    1018) of which I have neither on hand suitable for this adapter.

    For context, the adapter will bolt onto the location where the old
    ball nut was, and the new ball nut will bolt on to it.  It doesn't
    have to be absolutely perfect, but it does need to be "pretty good."

    Ideas?  Suggestions?  Warnings?

    I gather that you don't do much very-high-precision work? If so then
    6061 will be strong enough, and is easy to machine. As far as I can
    tell, most of the ones you buy are 6061 or similar.

    If it's going to be overly stressed then supersize it, but in most cases
    I wouldn't bother.

    Peter Fairbrother


    Compared to the what guys brag about doing with their machine... er I
    mean their boss's ... er I mean their boss's bank's million dollar
    machines in multi million dollar environmentally controlled laboratory
    clean rooms. No.

    I do keep a couple to a few thousandths tolerance all day with my cheap machines, and for the types of work I do acceleration is huge in
    productivity. A change of a few iss acceleration can save hours per day
    when you are doing iterative short 3D machine passes.


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