South Bend used taper pins on my lathe, some of which didn't survive the >students' abuse. I acquired some spare parts which had been drilled >differently for the taper pins. It seemed to me the idea was to ream by >hand, tap in the pin and then cut off the excess.
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 19 Jul 2024 20:46:02
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South Bend used taper pins on my lathe, some of which didn't survive the
students' abuse. I acquired some spare parts which had been drilled
differently for the taper pins. It seemed to me the idea was to ream by
hand, tap in the pin and then cut off the excess.
I still have a batch of brass taper pins made for the class
machines. Brass shears off and protects the machine - at leas that is
the theory
On 7/20/2024 9:00 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 19 Jul 2024 20:46:02
-0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
South Bend used taper pins on my lathe, some of which didn't survive the >>> students' abuse. I acquired some spare parts which had been drilled
differently for the taper pins. It seemed to me the idea was to ream by >>> hand, tap in the pin and then cut off the excess.
I still have a batch of brass taper pins made for the class
machines. Brass shears off and protects the machine - at leas that is
the theory
The thing is there really isn't any point to having stock size taper
pins available more than minimally longer than you can ream. I was
excited to see a couple pins available that might fit my application
only to find I would have to create my own tool to ream the holes. I
can make my own tools, but it takes a lot of time.
On 7/20/2024 9:00 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> on Fri, 19 Jul 2024 20:46:02
-0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
South Bend used taper pins on my lathe, some of which didn't survive the >>> students' abuse. I acquired some spare parts which had been drilled
differently for the taper pins. It seemed to me the idea was to ream by >>> hand, tap in the pin and then cut off the excess.
I still have a batch of brass taper pins made for the class
machines. Brass shears off and protects the machine - at leas that is
the theory
The thing is there really isn't any point to having stock size taper
pins available more than minimally longer than you can ream. I was
excited to see a couple pins available that might fit my application
only to find I would have to create my own tool to ream the holes. I
can make my own tools, but it takes a lot of time.
On 7/22/2024 3:30 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
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I know that feeling. Is what it would cost more or less than what
I would spend making one? And how soon do I need 'it'?
I have 4 drill presses. Maybe 5 if you count the little mill/drill. I rarely use any them anymore. Most drilling gets done with one of the
CNC Mills followed probably by a hand held drill motor these days. I
very rarely finish a tapped hole with a tapping head. However, do use
the floor drill press once in a while. Sometimes its just the fastest
and easiest way to waller out a hole in something. I've got a few drill press vises, but tended to use a "CNC" mill vise more often as its much heavier, and can be squared up on the table in any orientation.
A couple Christmas holidays ago my son and I made a slide lock drill
press vise and gave it to my dad for Christmas. As far as I know he
never used it. I did put it on his drill press once when I was out that way, but there is no sign he ever used it. When I started cleaning out
his shop I brought it home and put it on my floor stand drill press.
Once you get a feel for how to use it (wish it had a faster screw) its a pretty amazing device. I haven't used any other vise on that drill
press since. I machined two grooves and a step in the jaws. So far it
has worked for most everything I've drilled on that machine.
All of that being said for manual drilling I use the knee mill much more often than I use a drill press. I might use it more if I put a slide
lock drill press vise on it too. LOL.
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"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message news:9s5r9j9cjpgoerl1k0v0h6e12numoa5rvk@4ax.com...
I know that feeling. Is what it would cost more or less than what
I would spend making one? And how soon do I need 'it'?
I didn't suggest following with a second smaller reamer because I
couldn't think of a way to ensure it aligned with the first radially and axially, the necessary extended shank could let it wander and there's no
easy way to know when to stop.
the pin relative to the surface, cut off the small end and bin it for
later. For a small pin in a deep hole I'd use a dowel or roll pin instead.
Hammerlock chain links have another way to retain a pin. It's turned
smaller in the center and passes through a nested pair of large split
roll pins with their slots opposed. They expand to let the end pass,
then shrink onto the smaller center. Unlike shackles one end is no
larger than the bow and fits into chain links. The pin is fairly easy to hammer or squeeze in and punch out. https://www.riggingwarehouse.com/rw-lifting-rigging-hardware/rw-connection-repair-links/rw-hammerlocks.html
This is the preferred fitting to splice one chain to another,
hammerlocks are wider to accept multiple chains for slings. https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Titan~Chain/TCML13.html?feed=npn&gad_source=1
I had to go beyond hardware store G30 chain to a logging equipment
supplier to upgrade my hoisting gear for the heavy logs.
The drill press vise would be for the mill, to hold large but light
material, mainly sheet metal for electronic control panels etc, plus
give more badly needed working space under the spindle for upright jobs
like 5C collet blocks.
My Clausing 8525 mill is the early version
without the column riser block.
squares of 5" wide 14 ga steel for a hole saw, and wider steel would
have been better for hoist baseplates. At Unitrode I replaced a
worn-out drill press with an RF-31 mill
drill press vise for it instead of a 70+ lb milling vise that could
crush a foot. Machine work for electronics is mainly on aluminum sheet
and light extrusions, and no one wears steel toe boots.
Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:v7oucg$1ajjv$1@dont-email.me...
On 7/23/2024 6:15 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
Did you look a the slide lock vise?
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I have used one that I wasn’t all that impressed with, mainly for the limited range and sensitivity of clamping forces. I drill and mill
0.030" aluminum and clear plastic, usually over a wood backer it may or
may not be attached to, with tee slot clamp hold-downs as needed. An
example is cutouts for the rectangular panel meters I've mentioned.
0.030" is stiff enough after being folded into a box.
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