maybe can get one with eg. a 10:1 gearbox giving 300RPM output
"Richard Smith" wrote in message news:m1ldsc42kf.fsf@void.com...
If using flat-belts (or any other belt drive) that needs 2
countershafts, for a 3-stage speed reduction?
https://woodgears.ca/big_bandsaw/pulley.html
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"Richard Smith" wrote in message news:m11pttet2t.fsf@void.com...
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At Mitre the engineers would roughly specify the project and order
critical components before asking me to complete the design details
and handle construction. That worked out well, they knew the theory
and I knew the practice.
Earlier in the "fwiw - rod-mill project start" (concentrating then on >"metallurgical" part of rod-mill) someone mentioned continuously
variable transmission speed ratio using two disks, with one impinging on
the other at right-angles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction_drive
The friction drive operates only the ground wheels, a separate pulley on the >engine shaft drives the auger and impeller on mine, with considerable >reduction to both the auger and wheel drive pulleys. The old friction disk
on my Toro slipped rather easily though the rubber rim was mostly intact. It >might be enough for a 1/2 HP motor, I'd rig a test setup before committing
it into a machine.
"Richard Smith" wrote in message news:m1wmbd29er.fsf@void.com...
Hi everyone
I have been shown how to do this with power-electronics and
"off-the-shelf" gearbox, etc. With all speed-control needed.
A friend had made a small welding positioner. Hence adapted it:
* VFD - 1ph-to-3ph
v
* 3ph induction motor
v
* worm-drive gearbox
You turn a knob setting the output Hz. Adequate speed range.
Having seen this - that it works and does everything wanted - will
simply do it this way.
Have friend's equipment on "unspecified loan' in my car to take home and
play with more.
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That is an excellent way to learn what works. The potential problems
are cost and custom machining. In that instance I'd look up and save
the components' data sheets and see how their max power ratings
compare to what was needed and what you intend to do. I've been burned
by guessing that something was good enough, my sawmill left a trail of
broken ball bearing innards until I switched to a more reputable and expensive brand for the blade guides.
I hardly ever find the same device twice as second hand and must
decide on the spot if what I found is suitable, which may depend on
its power rating. People dispose of what they can't use, typically
because they are either inadequate or broken.
I tested that contactor for pull-in voltage and contact resistance.
"Richard Smith" wrote in message news:m1v7pjhzvs.fsf@void.com...
Update these many weeks later...
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Congratulations. Did you learn anything worth sharing about designing
and building low budget powered machinery?
That bit of "headroom" "saved the day".
(the device, the VFD, refuses to go above 60Hz output - likely don't
want "the heat" from people turning up at hospital with bits of motor embedded in them?)
On 30/05/2025 10:10, Richard Smith wrote:
That bit of "headroom" "saved the day".
(the device, the VFD, refuses to go above 60Hz output - likely don't
want "the heat" from people turning up at hospital with bits of motor
embedded in them?)
In my limited experience with 2 VFDs they come with a default maximum
output frequency, 50Hz IIRC with mine, which you have to change in the >configuration if you want to run faster. The first ABB VFD was changed
to 100Hz, the 2nd a Chinese one to 400Hz. RTFM.
On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:47:04 +0100, David Billington <djb@invalid.com>
wrote:
On 30/05/2025 10:10, Richard Smith wrote:
That bit of "headroom" "saved the day".
(the device, the VFD, refuses to go above 60Hz output - likely don't
want "the heat" from people turning up at hospital with bits of motor
embedded in them?)
In my limited experience with 2 VFDs they come with a default maximum >>output frequency, 50Hz IIRC with mine, which you have to change in the >>configuration if you want to run faster. The first ABB VFD was changed
to 100Hz, the 2nd a Chinese one to 400Hz. RTFM.
This is my experience too.
Joe
Thanks for writing the nice summary.
Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> writes:
On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:47:04 +0100, David Billington <djb@invalid.com>50% faster would generally be without unsought thrills?
wrote:
On 30/05/2025 10:10, Richard Smith wrote:This is my experience too.
That bit of "headroom" "saved the day".In my limited experience with 2 VFDs they come with a default maximum
(the device, the VFD, refuses to go above 60Hz output - likely don't
want "the heat" from people turning up at hospital with bits of motor
embedded in them?)
output frequency, 50Hz IIRC with mine, which you have to change in the
configuration if you want to run faster. The first ABB VFD was changed
to 100Hz, the 2nd a Chinese one to 400Hz. RTFM.
Joe
YOu could go a bit faster as a test with everything out of the way, then settle on what you want?
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