• Air pistol update

    From Snag@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 14:12:28 2025
    I decided I'd replace the pump first , make sure the rest of the
    pistol functioned . It does , but I can hear air leaking thru the
    reservoir seal when I pump it . I did manage to get a couple of shots
    off before the seal failed , and I think it's worth a few more bucks to
    replace all the seals .
    With today's seal kit purchase I'm now into this project a total of
    just over 33 bucks . I may decide to replace the barrel too depending on
    how accurate it is once I get the seals replaced .
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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Snag on Sat May 17 09:27:13 2025
    On 5/16/2025 12:12 PM, Snag wrote:
      I decided I'd replace the pump first , make sure the rest of the
    pistol functioned . It does , but I can hear air leaking thru the
    reservoir seal when I pump it . I did manage to get a couple of shots
    off before the seal failed , and I think it's worth a few more bucks to replace all the seals .
      With today's seal kit purchase I'm now into this project a total of
    just over 33 bucks . I may decide to replace the barrel too depending on
    how accurate it is once I get the seals replaced .


    Unless somebody has been shooting steel BBs through the barrel its
    likely (sans lead fouling) as good as it was when it was new. Lead
    pellets are typically dead soft lead. They are not hardcast like pistol projectiles.



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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat May 17 14:18:20 2025
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 09:27:13 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    Unless somebody has been shooting steel BBs through the barrel its
    likely (sans lead fouling) as good as it was when it was new. Lead
    pellets are typically dead soft lead. They are not hardcast like pistol >projectiles.

    Older models had a magnetic tipped probe kinda needed for holding BB's
    in place. They changed this at some point and the new probe was no
    longer magnetic and no mention of shooting BB's in the literature
    anymore...

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Leon Fisk on Sat May 17 15:28:45 2025
    On 5/17/2025 1:18 PM, Leon Fisk wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 09:27:13 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    Unless somebody has been shooting steel BBs through the barrel its
    likely (sans lead fouling) as good as it was when it was new. Lead
    pellets are typically dead soft lead. They are not hardcast like pistol
    projectiles.

    Older models had a magnetic tipped probe kinda needed for holding BB's
    in place. They changed this at some point and the new probe was no
    longer magnetic and no mention of shooting BB's in the literature
    anymore...


    This one has the magnet in the bolt . Can't really see down the
    barrel well enough to tell the condition of the rifling . I just pushed
    a pellet (miked .1755") down the bore from the muzzle , pushed easily
    and didn't engrave the head or skirt of the pellet at all . Is there
    enough air pressure on the pellet to expand the skirt into the rifling ?
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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Snag on Sat May 17 17:16:43 2025
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 15:28:45 -0500
    Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:

    <snip>
    This one has the magnet in the bolt . Can't really see down the
    barrel well enough to tell the condition of the rifling . I just pushed
    a pellet (miked .1755") down the bore from the muzzle , pushed easily
    and didn't engrave the head or skirt of the pellet at all . Is there
    enough air pressure on the pellet to expand the skirt into the rifling ?

    No, that's a myth from what I've read. It might have a smooth bore. I
    don't know about this particular Crosman but some are built with a
    smooth bore for use with BB's, darts and of course pellets but accuracy
    with the later will likely suffer...

    Also not all pellets have the same diameter. Can be bought over and
    under sized and can vary through the batch in the tin. Some guys sort
    their pellets by diameter and weight in the hopes of better accuracy.

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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Leon Fisk on Sat May 17 17:27:51 2025
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 17:16:43 -0400
    Leon Fisk <lfiskgr@gmail.invalid> wrote:

    <snip>
    No, that's a myth from what I've read. It might have a smooth bore. I
    don't know about this particular Crosman...

    Appropriate manual (per your year guess) and parts pdf's can be found
    here:

    https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203542970-1377-Owner-s-Manual-EVP-1981-1998

    It claims to have a rifled steel barrel in user manual. I'd try some
    different pellets, see how they fit. I've accumulated quite a few
    different brands and styles of .177 pellets. Some fit in the barrel
    really loose, some snug and others really tight. That's why you try a
    variety of them in your gun and see what works best with it. It can
    vary from batch to batch of the same brand/style too🙂️

    Some pellet barrels are choked on their ends too, similar to a shotgun.

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Leon Fisk on Sat May 17 17:50:45 2025
    On 5/17/2025 4:27 PM, Leon Fisk wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 17:16:43 -0400
    Leon Fisk <lfiskgr@gmail.invalid> wrote:

    <snip>
    No, that's a myth from what I've read. It might have a smooth bore. I
    don't know about this particular Crosman...

    Appropriate manual (per your year guess) and parts pdf's can be found
    here:

    https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203542970-1377-Owner-s-Manual-EVP-1981-1998

    It claims to have a rifled steel barrel in user manual. I'd try some different pellets, see how they fit. I've accumulated quite a few
    different brands and styles of .177 pellets. Some fit in the barrel
    really loose, some snug and others really tight. That's why you try a
    variety of them in your gun and see what works best with it. It can
    vary from batch to batch of the same brand/style too🙂️

    Some pellet barrels are choked on their ends too, similar to a shotgun.


    I have several different pellets/manufacturers . I'll measure some
    and see if any particular brand runs slightly larger . The barrel is
    rifled , but I can't tell what shape the rifling is . I'll do some
    accuracy testing once I get it shooting well .
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