• Are Ingersol Rand Compressors Actually Any Better ???

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 12 10:13:11 2022
    My main shop compressor motor smoked this morning. I figured I'd just
    pop over to Harbor Freight and pickup a 3HP Smith & Jones compressor
    duty motor. They don't have any. The compressor has a 3.7 (or maybe
    its 3.2) HP motor on it now. Well semi recyclable lump of aluminum,
    steel, and copper. I had replaced the pump already and the new pump
    turns easier than the original so the 3HP motor would have been fine.

    A quick check online of local stores open on Saturday shows the best
    deal on a step up compressor to 5HP 80 gallon (almost every mill in the
    shop uses air) shows Tractor Supply with a 5HP Ingersol Rand for $1299.
    That's $500 CHEAPER than the next in stock 5HP compressor in town. Well
    in stores with websites who have one listed as in stock.

    I have work to do so I'll buy something shortly.

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Leon Fisk on Sat Mar 12 10:27:15 2022
    On 3/12/2022 10:21 AM, Leon Fisk wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 10:13:11 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    A quick check online of local stores open on Saturday shows the best
    deal on a step up compressor to 5HP 80 gallon (almost every mill in the
    shop uses air) shows Tractor Supply with a 5HP Ingersol Rand for $1299.
    That's $500 CHEAPER than the next in stock 5HP compressor in town. Well
    in stores with websites who have one listed as in stock.

    Any Grainger Stores? Have an old 2hp 20 gallon Speedaire that has
    treated me well for ~30 years now. At least they usually have parts for
    the Speedaire stuff they sell...



    I don't do business with Grainger. They screwed me one to many times.
    Most of the things I would buy from Grainger/Zoro I get for less from
    MSC anyway. Not as bad as Graybar, but darn close. I seem to recall
    Speedaire is NOT a Grainger owned brand though. Last time I shopped
    around I am pretty sure the brand offered from the Local True Value
    hardware franchisee store was Speedaire. They didn't stock any. I need something today.

    I spent the money on the Ingersol Rand. I'll pick it up shortly. Ask
    me in 5 years how its doing. LOL.

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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat Mar 12 13:21:42 2022
    On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 10:13:11 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    A quick check online of local stores open on Saturday shows the best
    deal on a step up compressor to 5HP 80 gallon (almost every mill in the
    shop uses air) shows Tractor Supply with a 5HP Ingersol Rand for $1299. >That's $500 CHEAPER than the next in stock 5HP compressor in town. Well
    in stores with websites who have one listed as in stock.

    Any Grainger Stores? Have an old 2hp 20 gallon Speedaire that has
    treated me well for ~30 years now. At least they usually have parts for
    the Speedaire stuff they sell...

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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat Mar 12 14:08:35 2022
    On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 10:27:15 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    I spent the money on the Ingersol Rand. I'll pick it up shortly. Ask
    me in 5 years how its doing. LOL.

    Yeah, I have my hot-button vendors too...

    Problem with 5 years from now is that it could be a completely
    different unit by then. Where stuff is made and quality of it changes
    fast nowadays :(

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  • From Clare Snyder@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 12 13:27:10 2022
    On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 14:08:35 -0400, Leon Fisk <lfiskgr@gmail.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 10:27:15 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    I spent the money on the Ingersol Rand. I'll pick it up shortly. Ask
    me in 5 years how its doing. LOL.

    Yeah, I have my hot-button vendors too...

    Problem with 5 years from now is that it could be a completely
    different unit by then. Where stuff is made and quality of it changes
    fast nowadays :(
    If you are buying commercial grade I-R stuff you are likely getting
    your money's worth. The cheap-assed consumer grade crap with their
    name on it?? Not so much. May as well be Campbell Hausfeld (sp?)

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Leon Fisk on Sat Mar 12 13:24:02 2022
    On 3/12/2022 11:08 AM, Leon Fisk wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 10:27:15 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    I spent the money on the Ingersol Rand. I'll pick it up shortly. Ask
    me in 5 years how its doing. LOL.

    Yeah, I have my hot-button vendors too...

    Problem with 5 years from now is that it could be a completely
    different unit by then. Where stuff is made and quality of it changes
    fast nowadays :(


    Ordinarily that doesn't bother me to much. I can use a different pump
    or a different motor. I can make adapter mounting plates as needed as
    well. Check valves, pressure switches, etc are all available as
    separate parts. I still have one little mill drill in the back that
    doesn't require air that I only keep for that reason. So I can make a
    shitty "good enough" part if I need to to get something else running
    again. I would have just done a motor slap on my old compressor today,
    but no place in Yuma that I could find open on a Saturday had a big
    enough motor on hand. Harbor Freight usually has some compressor duty
    motors, but they are out of stock. I can still get this new IR
    installed today and run one or two jobs late this afternoon. I decided
    on the new compressor for a couple reasons. It more closely matches my
    shop air needs, and when I get a motor in for the old compressor I will
    have a full drop in backup. If the new one fails and I have to order
    some parts.

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Clare Snyder on Sat Mar 12 13:26:52 2022
    On 3/12/2022 11:27 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 14:08:35 -0400, Leon Fisk <lfiskgr@gmail.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 10:27:15 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    I spent the money on the Ingersol Rand. I'll pick it up shortly. Ask
    me in 5 years how its doing. LOL.

    Yeah, I have my hot-button vendors too...

    Problem with 5 years from now is that it could be a completely
    different unit by then. Where stuff is made and quality of it changes
    fast nowadays :(
    If you are buying commercial grade I-R stuff you are likely getting
    your money's worth. The cheap-assed consumer grade crap with their
    name on it?? Not so much. May as well be Campbell Hausfeld (sp?)


    Hey! Don't be dissing on Campbell Hausfeld. The original pump on my
    little roll around lasted almost 20 years and it wasn't a closet queen.
    It still has the original motor, switch, and check valve. It got used
    on construction sites, and in the shop for most of that time.


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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat Mar 12 17:33:10 2022
    On 3/12/2022 1:24 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 3/12/2022 11:08 AM, Leon Fisk wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 10:27:15 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    I spent the money on the Ingersol Rand.  I'll pick it up shortly.  Ask >>> me in 5 years how its doing.  LOL.

    Yeah, I have my hot-button vendors too...

    Problem with 5 years from now is that it could be a completely
    different unit by then. Where stuff is made and quality of it changes
    fast nowadays :(


    Ordinarily that doesn't bother me to much.  I can use a different pump
    or a different motor.  I can make adapter mounting plates as needed as well.  Check valves, pressure switches, etc are all available as
    separate parts.  I still have one little mill drill in the back that
    doesn't require air that I only keep for that reason.  So I can make a shitty "good enough" part if I need to to get something else running
    again.  I would have just done a motor slap on my old compressor today,
    but no place in Yuma that I could find open on a Saturday had a big
    enough motor on hand.  Harbor Freight usually has some compressor duty motors, but they are out of stock.  I can still get this new IR
    installed today and run one or two jobs late this afternoon.  I decided
    on the new compressor for a couple reasons.  It more closely matches my
    shop air needs, and when I get a motor in for the old compressor I will
    have a full drop in backup.  If the new one fails and I have to order
    some parts.


    That is proving optimistic. I enlarged the space for it and got it off
    the pallet. LOL




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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sun Mar 13 15:05:33 2022
    On 3/12/2022 10:13 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    My main shop compressor motor smoked this morning.  I figured I'd just
    pop over to Harbor Freight and pickup a 3HP Smith & Jones compressor
    duty motor.  They don't have any.  The compressor has a 3.7 (or maybe
    its 3.2) HP motor on it now.  Well semi recyclable lump of aluminum,
    steel, and copper.  I had replaced the pump already and the new pump
    turns easier than the original so the 3HP motor would have been fine.

    A quick check online of local stores open on Saturday shows the best
    deal on a step up compressor to 5HP 80 gallon (almost every mill in the
    shop uses air) shows Tractor Supply with a 5HP Ingersol Rand for $1299. That's $500 CHEAPER than the next in stock 5HP compressor in town.  Well
    in stores with websites who have one listed as in stock.

    I have work to do so I'll buy something shortly.



    So far there is good news and bad news.

    BAD: Its a fair amount louder than the old one. I won't want to work
    at the back work bench when its running.

    Good: It fills the tank a lot faster.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 13 22:36:16 2022
    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:t0lprc$vfc$1@dont-email.me...

    So far there is good news and bad news.

    BAD: Its a fair amount louder than the old one. I won't want to work
    at the back work bench when its running.

    Good: It fills the tank a lot faster.

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    The 3HP Harbor Freight air compressor pump is quiet, apparently due to a
    good (and large) intake muffler. I can hear when the pulley lock screws need retightening.
    https://www.mcmaster.com/compressor-mufflers/

    They also quiet vacuum pumps.

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Mon Mar 14 09:24:23 2022
    On 3/13/2022 7:36 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:t0lprc$vfc$1@dont-email.me...

    So far there is good news and bad news.

    BAD:  Its a fair amount louder than the old one.  I won't want to work
    at the back work bench when its running.

    Good:  It fills the tank a lot faster.

    -------------------

    The 3HP Harbor Freight air compressor pump is quiet, apparently due to a
    good (and large) intake muffler. I can hear when the pulley lock screws
    need retightening.
    https://www.mcmaster.com/compressor-mufflers/

    They also quiet vacuum pumps.



    I've actually got Harbor Freight pumps on two compressors. One is my
    old Campbell Hausfeld roll around, and one is the compressor I just took
    out. I was taken with how much quieter they were than the original
    pumps. Perhaps that's why I complained about the sound level of the new compressor. The roll around is still a little loud, but I expect that's atleast in part because it is not fix mounted on vibration dampening
    pads, and the steel front foot rests on the floor. When I first started needing a fixed air plant in the shop I had it setting in the corner
    connected to the shop air lines with a whip.



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