• The Honeycombs - Have I The Right?

    From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 27 23:29:31 2023
    great sound, great video; female drummer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9VCSzu3cOI

    please consider reading the poster's notes

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Thu Jun 29 06:55:02 2023
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:34:27 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:29:31 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:


    great sound, great video; female drummer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9VCSzu3cOI

    please consider reading the poster's notes
    UGH!

    One of my best 60's hates

    Similar crash-bang-wallop noise as DC5

    That's what I was thinking. That's one reason why this gets a 10 from me. I guess you are more like Bussard, you don't want to hear that "thump, thump."

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to RWC on Thu Jun 29 13:34:26 2023
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:29:31 -0400, RWC <letsrock@opbox.com> wrote:


    great sound, great video; female drummer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9VCSzu3cOI

    please consider reading the poster's notes

    UGH!

    One of my best 60's hates

    Similar crash-bang-wallop noise as DC5


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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Thu Jun 29 07:26:30 2023
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:18:35 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 06:55:02 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:34:27=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:29:31 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:=20 >>=20
    =20
    great sound, great video; female drummer=20
    =20
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl9VCSzu3cOI=20
    =20
    please consider reading the poster's notes
    UGH!=20
    =20
    One of my best 60's hates=20
    =20
    Similar crash-bang-wallop noise as DC5=20

    That's what I was thinking. That's one reason why this gets a 10 from me. =
    I guess you are more like Bussard, you don't want to hear that "thump, thum=
    p."

    A 10?

    A TEN?????????????

    Wait,lret me check the calendar

    It must be April 1st

    These are all tens:

    MY TOP 100 RECORDINGS FROM 1964:
    1 ¦ Ain't Nothing You Can Do ¦ Bobby "Blue" Bland
    2 ¦ Can't Buy Me Love ¦ Beatles
    3 ¦ I Feel Fine ¦ Beatles
    4 ¦ The Same Thing ¦ Muddy Waters
    5 ¦ Out Of Sight ¦ James Brown
    6 ¦ A Hard Day's Night ¦ Beatles
    7 ¦ All Day And All Of The Night ¦ Kinks
    8 ¦ Beautician Blues ¦ B.B. King
    9 ¦ It's All Over Now ¦ Rolling Stones
    10 ¦ Ain't Doing Too Bad ¦ Bobby "Blue" Bland
    11 ¦ Heart Of Stone ¦ Rolling Stones
    12 ¦ Eight Days A Week ¦ Beatles
    13 ¦ I Get Around ¦ Beach Boys
    14 ¦ When You Walk In The Room ¦ Searchers
    15 ¦ Can't You See That She's Mine ¦ Dave Clark Five
    16 ¦ I Ain't Got You ¦ Yardbirds
    17 ¦ I Can't Explain ¦ The Who
    18 ¦ Have I The Right ¦ Honeycombs
    19 ¦ Bits And Pieces ¦ Dave Clark Five

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 29 14:18:33 2023
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 06:55:02 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:34:27=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:29:31 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:=20
    =20
    =20
    great sound, great video; female drummer=20
    =20
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl9VCSzu3cOI=20
    =20
    please consider reading the poster's notes
    UGH!=20
    =20
    One of my best 60's hates=20
    =20
    Similar crash-bang-wallop noise as DC5=20

    That's what I was thinking. That's one reason why this gets a 10 from me. =
    I guess you are more like Bussard, you don't want to hear that "thump, thum= >p."

    A 10?

    A TEN?????????????

    Wait,lret me check the calendar

    It must be April 1st

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Thu Jun 29 08:34:44 2023
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:34:27 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:29:31 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:


    great sound, great video; female drummer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9VCSzu3cOI

    please consider reading the poster's notes
    UGH!

    One of my best 60's hates

    Similar crash-bang-wallop noise as DC5

    And it won 3 rounds in your 1964 battle with these voters.

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Jun 29 13:09:30 2023
    On 6/29/2023 1:01 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:52:42 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 08:34:44 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:34:27=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote: >>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:29:31 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:=20
    =20
    =20
    great sound, great video; female drummer=20
    =20
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl9VCSzu3cOI=20
    =20
    please consider reading the poster's notes
    UGH!=20
    =20
    One of my best 60's hates=20
    =20
    Similar crash-bang-wallop noise as DC5=20

    And it won 3 rounds in your 1964 battle with these voters.
    Here's how it did

    R1
    9 Louisiana Red - I'm Too Poor To Die - Glover 3002
    13 The Honeycombs - Have I The Right - UK Pye 15664

    R2
    8 Carla Thomas - I've Got No Time To Lose - Atlantic 2238
    14 The Honeycombs - Have I The Right - UK Pye 15664

    R3
    12 Irma Thomas - Anyone Who Knows What Love Is - Imperial 66041
    13 The Honeycombs - Have I The Right - UK Pye 15664

    R4
    21 Martha & The Vandellas - Dancing In The Street - Gordy 7033
    5 The Honeycombs - Have I The Right - UK Pye 15664

    The way I voted in each round is surely self evident

    The one point loss in round 3 must have killed you.
    ------------
    Not happy with Round 2 here either.
    She's no Odie Payne, that's for sure. :)

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Thu Jun 29 10:01:13 2023
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:52:42 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 08:34:44 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:34:27=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:29:31 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:=20 >>=20
    =20
    great sound, great video; female drummer=20
    =20
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl9VCSzu3cOI=20
    =20
    please consider reading the poster's notes
    UGH!=20
    =20
    One of my best 60's hates=20
    =20
    Similar crash-bang-wallop noise as DC5=20

    And it won 3 rounds in your 1964 battle with these voters.
    Here's how it did

    R1
    9 Louisiana Red - I'm Too Poor To Die - Glover 3002
    13 The Honeycombs - Have I The Right - UK Pye 15664

    R2
    8 Carla Thomas - I've Got No Time To Lose - Atlantic 2238
    14 The Honeycombs - Have I The Right - UK Pye 15664

    R3
    12 Irma Thomas - Anyone Who Knows What Love Is - Imperial 66041
    13 The Honeycombs - Have I The Right - UK Pye 15664

    R4
    21 Martha & The Vandellas - Dancing In The Street - Gordy 7033
    5 The Honeycombs - Have I The Right - UK Pye 15664

    The way I voted in each round is surely self evident

    The one point loss in round 3 must have killed you.

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 29 16:52:39 2023
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 08:34:44 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:34:27=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:29:31 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:=20
    =20
    =20
    great sound, great video; female drummer=20
    =20
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl9VCSzu3cOI=20
    =20
    please consider reading the poster's notes
    UGH!=20
    =20
    One of my best 60's hates=20
    =20
    Similar crash-bang-wallop noise as DC5=20

    And it won 3 rounds in your 1964 battle with these voters.

    Here's how it did

    R1
    9 Louisiana Red - I'm Too Poor To Die - Glover 3002
    13 The Honeycombs - Have I The Right - UK Pye 15664

    R2
    8 Carla Thomas - I've Got No Time To Lose - Atlantic 2238
    14 The Honeycombs - Have I The Right - UK Pye 15664

    R3
    12 Irma Thomas - Anyone Who Knows What Love Is - Imperial 66041
    13 The Honeycombs - Have I The Right - UK Pye 15664

    R4
    21 Martha & The Vandellas - Dancing In The Street - Gordy 7033
    5 The Honeycombs - Have I The Right - UK Pye 15664

    The way I voted in each round is surely self evident

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 29 17:24:43 2023
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 07:26:30 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:18:35=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 06:55:02 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=20
    wrote:=20
    =20
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:34:27=3DE2=3D80=3DAFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford=
    wrote:=20
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:29:31 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:=3D2= >0=20
    =3D20=20
    =3D20=20
    great sound, great video; female drummer=3D20=20
    =3D20=20
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3Dl9VCSzu3cOI=3D20=20
    =3D20
    please consider reading the poster's notes
    UGH!=3D20=20
    =3D20=20
    One of my best 60's hates=3D20=20
    =3D20=20
    Similar crash-bang-wallop noise as DC5=3D20=20
    =20
    That's what I was thinking. That's one reason why this gets a 10 from m= >e. =3D=20
    I guess you are more like Bussard, you don't want to hear that "thump, t= >hum=3D=20
    p."=20
    =20
    A 10?=20
    =20
    A TEN?????????????=20
    =20
    Wait,lret me check the calendar=20
    =20
    It must be April 1st

    These are all tens:

    MY TOP 100 RECORDINGS FROM 1964:
    1 =C2=A6 Ain't Nothing You Can Do =C2=A6 Bobby "Blue" Bland
    2 =C2=A6 Can't Buy Me Love =C2=A6 Beatles
    3 =C2=A6 I Feel Fine =C2=A6 Beatles
    4 =C2=A6 The Same Thing =C2=A6 Muddy Waters
    5 =C2=A6 Out Of Sight =C2=A6 James Brown
    6 =C2=A6 A Hard Day's Night =C2=A6 Beatles
    7 =C2=A6 All Day And All Of The Night =C2=A6 Kinks
    8 =C2=A6 Beautician Blues =C2=A6 B.B. King
    9 =C2=A6 It's All Over Now =C2=A6 Rolling Stones
    10 =C2=A6 Ain't Doing Too Bad =C2=A6 Bobby "Blue" Bland
    11 =C2=A6 Heart Of Stone =C2=A6 Rolling Stones
    12 =C2=A6 Eight Days A Week =C2=A6 Beatles
    13 =C2=A6 I Get Around =C2=A6 Beach Boys
    14 =C2=A6 When You Walk In The Room =C2=A6 Searchers
    15 =C2=A6 Can't You See That She's Mine =C2=A6 Dave Clark Five
    16 =C2=A6 I Ain't Got You =C2=A6 Yardbirds
    17 =C2=A6 I Can't Explain =C2=A6 The Who
    18 =C2=A6 Have I The Right =C2=A6 Honeycombs
    19 =C2=A6 Bits And Pieces =C2=A6 Dave Clark Five

    Here's my Top 20 for 1964. Only two tens.

    My Girl Temptations - 10
    A Change Is Gonna Come Sam Cooke - 10
    Promised Land Chuck Berry - 9
    You Never Can Tell Chuck Berry - 9
    Wish Someone Would Care Irma Thomas - 9
    You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' Righteous Brothers - 9
    Where Did Our Love Go Supremes - 9
    Baby I Need Your Loving Four Tops - 9
    The Way You Do The Things You Do Temptations - 9
    Out Of Sight James Brown - 9
    Ain't That Loving You Baby Elvis Presley - 8
    No Particular Place To Go Chuck Berry - 8
    That's How Strong My Love Is O.V. Wright - 8
    My Guy Mary Wells - 8
    Come See About Me Supremes - 8
    Dancing In The Street Martha & Vandellas - 8
    Nadine (Is That You) Chuck Berry - 8
    I Get Around Beach Boys - 8
    Beautician Blues B.B. King
    Under The Boardwalk Drifters - 8



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  • From Dean F.@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 29 16:23:58 2023
    I've loved that record since the first time I heard it! Just a great, great song.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Thu Jun 29 21:47:31 2023
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:22:24 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:23:58 -0700 (PDT), "Dean F."
    <soule...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've loved that record since the first time I heard it! Just a great, great song.
    Seems to be something of an age thing with this one

    Let's have Rick look up who voted for it and against it in the 64 battle and see.

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 30 04:52:06 2023
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:47:31 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:22:24=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:23:58 -0700 (PDT), "Dean F."=20
    <soule...@gmail.com> wrote:=20
    =20
    I've loved that record since the first time I heard it! Just a great, gr= >eat song.
    Seems to be something of an age thing with this one

    Let's have Rick look up who voted for it and against it in the 64 battle an= >d see.

    I'm sure everyone will have a pretty good idea how I voted already :)

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Thu Jun 29 22:15:20 2023
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:52:07 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:47:31 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:22:24=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:23:58 -0700 (PDT), "Dean F."=20
    <soule...@gmail.com> wrote:=20
    =20
    I've loved that record since the first time I heard it! Just a great, gr= >eat song.
    Seems to be something of an age thing with this one

    Let's have Rick look up who voted for it and against it in the 64 battle an=
    d see.

    I'm sure everyone will have a pretty good idea how I voted already :)

    Yes, but let's test your theory about age having something to do with this. There are not that many people as young as me and Dean who were voting back then. If the record won 3 rounds it had to have been getting some support from people older than me.

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to soulexpress@gmail.com on Fri Jun 30 04:22:22 2023
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:23:58 -0700 (PDT), "Dean F."
    <soulexpress@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've loved that record since the first time I heard it! Just a great, great song.

    Seems to be something of an age thing withn this one


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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Jun 30 02:33:24 2023
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:15:22 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Yes, but let's test your theory about age having something to do with this. There are not that many people as young as me and Dean who were voting back then. If the record won 3 rounds it had to have been getting some support from people older than me.

    I don't know if I voted for it (or what it was up against), but I always liked it.

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Bill B on Fri Jun 30 06:47:44 2023
    On 6/30/2023 5:33 AM, Bill B wrote:
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:15:22 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Yes, but let's test your theory about age having something to do with this. There are not that many people as young as me and Dean who were voting back then. If the record won 3 rounds it had to have been getting some support from people older than me.

    I don't know if I voted for it (or what it was up against), but I always liked it.
    -----------
    Myself, I just thought it was a goofy throwaway record. Kind of like
    "Bread And Butter" or "I'm Telling You Now." Nothing wrong with it, but nothing memorable either. Give me Carla Thomas and Irma Thomas any day.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bill B on Fri Jun 30 06:35:33 2023
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:33:26 AM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:15:22 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Yes, but let's test your theory about age having something to do with this. There are not that many people as young as me and Dean who were voting back then. If the record won 3 rounds it had to have been getting some support from people older than
    me.
    I don't know if I voted for it (or what it was up against), but I always liked it.

    Thank you, and you're several years older than Roger.

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to DianeE on Fri Jun 30 15:26:00 2023
    On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 06:47:44 -0400, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:

    On 6/30/2023 5:33 AM, Bill B wrote:
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:15:22 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Yes, but let's test your theory about age having something to do with this. There are not that many people as young as me and Dean who were voting back then. If the record won 3 rounds it had to have been getting some support from people older than
    me.

    I don't know if I voted for it (or what it was up against), but I always liked it.
    -----------
    Myself, I just thought it was a goofy throwaway record. Kind of like
    "Bread And Butter" or "I'm Telling You Now." Nothing wrong with it, but >nothing memorable either. Give me Carla Thomas and Irma Thomas any day.

    I had a soft spot for "Bread And Butter" which just scrapes on t o my
    1964 list with a 6.

    OTOH I always hated Freddie & Dreamers and all their works with a
    passion

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 30 15:32:27 2023
    On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 06:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:33:26=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:15:22=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:=20
    =20
    Yes, but let's test your theory about age having something to do with t= >his. There are not that many people as young as me and Dean who were voting=
    back then. If the record won 3 rounds it had to have been getting some sup=
    port from people older than me.
    I don't know if I voted for it (or what it was up against), but I always = >liked it.

    Thank you, and you're several years older than Roger.

    Huh??

    I was under the assumprtion that Diane was superceded in age by at
    least two other femme members (both no longer posting here) and that I
    was older than all of them



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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Fri Jun 30 09:47:27 2023
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 11:32:28 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 06:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:33:26=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:15:22=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:=20 >>=20
    Yes, but let's test your theory about age having something to do with t=
    his. There are not that many people as young as me and Dean who were voting=
    back then. If the record won 3 rounds it had to have been getting some sup=
    port from people older than me.
    I don't know if I voted for it (or what it was up against), but I always = >liked it.

    Thank you, and you're several years older than Roger.
    Huh??

    I was under the assumprtion that Diane was superceded in age by at
    least two other femme members (both no longer posting here) and that I
    was older than all of them

    I'm answering Bill there.

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 30 18:50:49 2023
    On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 11:32:28=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 06:35:33 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=20
    wrote:=20
    =20
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 5:33:26=3DE2=3D80=3DAFAM UTC-4, Bill B wrote= >:=20
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 1:15:22=3DE2=3D80=3DAFAM UTC-4, Bruce wrot= >e:=3D20=20
    =3D20=20
    Yes, but let's test your theory about age having something to do wit= >h t=3D=20
    his. There are not that many people as young as me and Dean who were vot= >ing=3D=20
    back then. If the record won 3 rounds it had to have been getting some = >sup=3D
    port from people older than me.
    I don't know if I voted for it (or what it was up against), but I alwa= >ys =3D
    liked it.=20
    =20
    Thank you, and you're several years older than Roger.
    Huh??=20
    =20
    I was under the assumprtion that Diane was superceded in age by at=20
    least two other femme members (both no longer posting here) and that I=20
    was older than all of them

    I'm answering Bill there.

    My mistake sorry!


    ROGER FORD
    -----------------------

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  • From Rick Schubert@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jul 1 22:39:42 2023
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:47:31 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com> wrote:

    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:22:24?AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:23:58 -0700 (PDT), "Dean F."
    <soule...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've loved that record since the first time I heard it! Just a great, great song.
    Seems to be something of an age thing with this one

    Let's have Rick look up who voted for it and against it in the 64 battle and see.

    Round 1:

    Louisiana Red - I'm Too Poor To Die

    Jim Colgrove
    Mark Dintenfass
    Bob Roman
    Lou Mottor
    Mike Holcombe
    Roger Ford
    Todd Lucas
    Peter Stoller
    Len Blanks

    The Honeycombs - Have I The Right

    Dean Fiora
    DianeE
    Carl Glasow
    Doug Peneny
    Jim Bartos
    Bruno
    Adam Aberra
    F.R.
    Bruce Grossberg
    Bobby Massey
    Jyrki Ilva
    Clifford Blau
    Eric Ramon

    [apparently I abstained on this one]

    Round 2:

    Carla Thomas - I've Got No Time To Lose

    Jim Colgrove
    Mark Dintenfass
    Bob Roman
    Mike Holcombe
    Roger Ford
    Peter Stoller
    Jyrki Ilva
    Len Blanks

    The Honeycombs - Have I The Right

    Robert Piepenbrok
    Carl Glasow
    Doug Peneny
    Jim Bartos
    Lou Mottor
    Bruno
    Marc Dashevsky
    Steve Mc
    F.R.
    Rick Schubert
    Bruce Grossberg
    Bobby Massey
    Clifford Blau
    Eric Ramon

    Round 3:

    Irma Thomas - Anyone Who Knows What Love Is

    Jim Colgrove
    Mark Dintenfass
    Bob Roman
    Lou Mottor
    Mike Holcombe
    Rick Schubert
    Roger Ford
    Todd Lucas
    Peter Stoller
    Jyrki Ilva
    Gene Skiffington
    Len Blanks

    The Honeycombs - Have I The Right

    Robert Piepenbrok
    Dean Fiora
    DianeE
    Carl Glasow
    Jim Bartos
    Bruno
    Marc Dashevsky
    Steve Mc
    F.R.
    Bruce Grossberg
    Bobby Massey
    Clifford Blau
    Eric Ramon

    Round 4:

    Martha & The Vandellas - Dancing In The Street

    Robert Piepenbrok
    Dean Fiora
    DianeE
    Jim Colgrove
    Mark Dintenfass
    Bob Roman
    Doug Peneny
    Jim Bartos
    Mike Holcombe
    Steve Mc
    F.R.
    Rick Schubert
    Roger Ford
    Todd Lucas
    Bobby Massey
    Peter Stoller
    Jyrki Ilva
    Gene Skiffington
    Len Blanks
    Clifford Blau
    Eric Ramon

    The Honeycombs - Have I The Right

    Carl Glasow
    Tom Blumenthal
    Lou Mottor
    Bruno
    Bruce Grossberg

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Rick Schubert on Sat Jul 1 22:54:46 2023
    On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 1:39:54 AM UTC-4, Rick Schubert wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:47:31 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:
    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 12:22:24?AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:23:58 -0700 (PDT), "Dean F."
    <soule...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've loved that record since the first time I heard it! Just a great, great song.
    Seems to be something of an age thing with this one

    Let's have Rick look up who voted for it and against it in the 64 battle and see.
    Round 1:
    Louisiana Red - I'm Too Poor To Die
    Jim Colgrove
    Mark Dintenfass
    Bob Roman
    Lou Mottor
    Mike Holcombe
    Roger Ford
    Todd Lucas
    Peter Stoller
    Len Blanks
    The Honeycombs - Have I The Right
    Dean Fiora
    DianeE
    Carl Glasow
    Doug Peneny
    Jim Bartos
    Bruno
    Adam Aberra
    F.R.
    Bruce Grossberg
    Bobby Massey
    Jyrki Ilva
    Clifford Blau
    Eric Ramon

    [apparently I abstained on this one]

    Round 2:
    Carla Thomas - I've Got No Time To Lose
    Jim Colgrove
    Mark Dintenfass
    Bob Roman
    Mike Holcombe
    Roger Ford
    Peter Stoller
    Jyrki Ilva
    Len Blanks
    The Honeycombs - Have I The Right
    Robert Piepenbrok
    Carl Glasow
    Doug Peneny
    Jim Bartos
    Lou Mottor
    Bruno
    Marc Dashevsky
    Steve Mc
    F.R.
    Rick Schubert
    Bruce Grossberg
    Bobby Massey
    Clifford Blau
    Eric Ramon

    Round 3:
    Irma Thomas - Anyone Who Knows What Love Is
    Jim Colgrove
    Mark Dintenfass
    Bob Roman
    Lou Mottor
    Mike Holcombe
    Rick Schubert
    Roger Ford
    Todd Lucas
    Peter Stoller
    Jyrki Ilva
    Gene Skiffington
    Len Blanks
    The Honeycombs - Have I The Right
    Robert Piepenbrok
    Dean Fiora
    DianeE
    Carl Glasow
    Jim Bartos
    Bruno
    Marc Dashevsky
    Steve Mc
    F.R.
    Bruce Grossberg
    Bobby Massey
    Clifford Blau
    Eric Ramon

    Round 4:
    Martha & The Vandellas - Dancing In The Street
    Robert Piepenbrok
    Dean Fiora
    DianeE
    Jim Colgrove
    Mark Dintenfass
    Bob Roman
    Doug Peneny
    Jim Bartos
    Mike Holcombe
    Steve Mc
    F.R.
    Rick Schubert
    Roger Ford
    Todd Lucas
    Bobby Massey
    Peter Stoller
    Jyrki Ilva
    Gene Skiffington
    Len Blanks
    Clifford Blau
    Eric Ramon
    The Honeycombs - Have I The Right
    Carl Glasow
    Tom Blumenthal
    Lou Mottor
    Bruno
    Bruce Grossberg

    In each of the first 2 rounds there was a mix of young and old voting for each record. Roman, Todd and Stoller (my age) all voted against the Honeycombs while several older people voted for the Honeycombs. In the third round it came up against one of the
    powerhouse records of the year and several former Honeycombs voters shifted their vote the other way. No real pattern or younger people bringing the Honeycombs home in the first 2 rounds.

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  • From Steve Mc@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Fri Jul 7 07:13:44 2023
    On 7/7/2023 7:07 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
    Somebody asked how many British records made my 1964 list.

    The answer iis three

    91. Eight Days A Week Beatles
    94. The House Of The Rising Sun Animals

    Bubbling Under

    105. Gloria Them


    ROGER FORD

    Roger, just curious.

    What is your favorite Rolling Stones record ?

    And your favorite all-time British record ?

    Thanks,

    --
    Steve Mc

    DNA to SBC to respond

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Ford on Fri Jul 7 14:07:09 2023
    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:24:43 GMT, mariabus@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger
    Ford) wrote:

    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 07:26:30 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 10:18:35=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote: >>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 06:55:02 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=20
    wrote:=20
    =20
    On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:34:27=3DE2=3D80=3DAFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford= >> wrote:=20
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:29:31 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:=3D2= >>0=20
    =3D20=20
    =3D20=20
    great sound, great video; female drummer=3D20=20
    =3D20=20
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3Dl9VCSzu3cOI=3D20=20
    =3D20
    please consider reading the poster's notes
    UGH!=3D20=20
    =3D20=20
    One of my best 60's hates=3D20=20
    =3D20=20
    Similar crash-bang-wallop noise as DC5=3D20=20
    =20
    That's what I was thinking. That's one reason why this gets a 10 from m= >>e. =3D=20
    I guess you are more like Bussard, you don't want to hear that "thump, t= >>hum=3D=20
    p."=20
    =20
    A 10?=20
    =20
    A TEN?????????????=20
    =20
    Wait,lret me check the calendar=20
    =20
    It must be April 1st

    These are all tens:

    MY TOP 100 RECORDINGS FROM 1964:
    1 =C2=A6 Ain't Nothing You Can Do =C2=A6 Bobby "Blue" Bland
    2 =C2=A6 Can't Buy Me Love =C2=A6 Beatles
    3 =C2=A6 I Feel Fine =C2=A6 Beatles
    4 =C2=A6 The Same Thing =C2=A6 Muddy Waters
    5 =C2=A6 Out Of Sight =C2=A6 James Brown
    6 =C2=A6 A Hard Day's Night =C2=A6 Beatles
    7 =C2=A6 All Day And All Of The Night =C2=A6 Kinks
    8 =C2=A6 Beautician Blues =C2=A6 B.B. King
    9 =C2=A6 It's All Over Now =C2=A6 Rolling Stones
    10 =C2=A6 Ain't Doing Too Bad =C2=A6 Bobby "Blue" Bland
    11 =C2=A6 Heart Of Stone =C2=A6 Rolling Stones
    12 =C2=A6 Eight Days A Week =C2=A6 Beatles
    13 =C2=A6 I Get Around =C2=A6 Beach Boys
    14 =C2=A6 When You Walk In The Room =C2=A6 Searchers
    15 =C2=A6 Can't You See That She's Mine =C2=A6 Dave Clark Five
    16 =C2=A6 I Ain't Got You =C2=A6 Yardbirds
    17 =C2=A6 I Can't Explain =C2=A6 The Who
    18 =C2=A6 Have I The Right =C2=A6 Honeycombs
    19 =C2=A6 Bits And Pieces =C2=A6 Dave Clark Five

    Here's my Top 20 for 1964. Only two tens.

    My Girl Temptations - 10
    A Change Is Gonna Come Sam Cooke - 10
    Promised Land Chuck Berry - 9
    You Never Can Tell Chuck Berry - 9
    Wish Someone Would Care Irma Thomas - 9
    You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' Righteous Brothers - 9
    Where Did Our Love Go Supremes - 9
    Baby I Need Your Loving Four Tops - 9
    The Way You Do The Things You Do Temptations - 9
    Out Of Sight James Brown - 9
    Ain't That Loving You Baby Elvis Presley - 8
    No Particular Place To Go Chuck Berry - 8
    That's How Strong My Love Is O.V. Wright - 8
    My Guy Mary Wells - 8
    Come See About Me Supremes - 8
    Dancing In The Street Martha & Vandellas - 8
    Nadine (Is That You) Chuck Berry - 8
    I Get Around Beach Boys - 8
    Beautician Blues B.B. King
    Under The Boardwalk Drifters - 8

    Somebody asked how many British records made my 1964 list.

    The answer iis three

    91. Eight Days A Week Beatles
    94. The House Of The Rising Sun Animals

    Bubbling Under

    105. Gloria Them


    ROGER FORD
    -----------------------

    "Spam Free Zone" - to combat unwanted automatic spamming I have added
    an extra "b" in my e-mail address (mariabus@bblueyonder.co.uk) Please
    delete same before responding.Thank you!

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 7 15:03:56 2023
    On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 07:13:44 -0700, Steve Mc <stevemc209@sbcglobal.net>
    wrote:

    On 7/7/2023 7:07 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
    Somebody asked how many British records made my 1964 list.

    The answer iis three

    91. Eight Days A Week Beatles
    94. The House Of The Rising Sun Animals

    Bubbling Under

    105. Gloria Them


    ROGER FORD

    Roger, just curious.

    What is your favorite Rolling Stones record ?

    I don't care for much by them but I always kinda liked "19th Nervous
    Breakdown"

    And your favorite all-time British record ?

    Lonnie Donegan's "Rock Island Line" was a real milestone here but I
    think my all time favorite UK 45 is probably "Shakin' All Over" by
    Johnny Kidd & The Prirates

    That one is from 1960 and since there's been some attention given to
    the 60's on here lately was considering doing some posts on my
    favorite records of the period even at risk of going well off topic

    What do you think?

    ROGER FORD
    -----------------------

    "Spam Free Zone" - to combat unwanted automatic spamming I have added
    an extra "b" in my e-mail address (mariabus@bblueyonder.co.uk) Please
    delete same before responding.Thank you!

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  • From Steve Mc@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Fri Jul 7 13:09:30 2023
    On 7/7/2023 8:03 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 07:13:44 -0700, Steve Mc <stevemc209@sbcglobal.net>
    wrote:

    On 7/7/2023 7:07 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
    Somebody asked how many British records made my 1964 list.

    The answer iis three

    91. Eight Days A Week Beatles
    94. The House Of The Rising Sun Animals

    Bubbling Under

    105. Gloria Them


    ROGER FORD
    Roger, just curious.

    What is your favorite Rolling Stones record ?

    I don't care for much by them but I always kinda liked "19th Nervous Breakdown"

    And your favorite all-time British record ?

    Lonnie Donegan's "Rock Island Line" was a real milestone here but I
    think my all time favorite UK 45 is probably "Shakin' All Over" by
    Johnny Kidd & The Prirates

    That one is from 1960 and since there's been some attention given to
    the 60's on here lately was considering doing some posts on my
    favorite records of the period even at risk of going well off topic

    What do you think?

    ROGER FORD
    -----------------------


    Thank you.

    Well that's fine with me, especially being that Sheriff Norm no longer
    polices these parts.

    And speaking of Norm, I just called him, but phone will no accept
    massages. I haven't talked to him more than a year, and unfortunately he
    wasn't doing to well back then.

    --
    Steve Mc

    DNA to SBC to respond

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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri Jul 7 13:40:52 2023
    On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 4:18:24 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    As far as I'm concerned there's nothing cannot be discussed here. It's a small community of people who have pretty much all been around here for like 20+ years by now, and anything goes IMO. Of course the main thing holding us together is 1950s era
    music, but lots of other topics are of interest.

    Nobody is forcing anybody to read any threads that they are not interested in.

    It won't be a small community after the topics draw external interest and comments. I like it the way it is and don't want to risk drawing foul mouthed trolls. Your suggestion is a dangerous road on which to travel.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Fri Jul 7 13:18:22 2023
    On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 11:03:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 07:13:44 -0700, Steve Mc <steve...@sbcglobal.net>
    wrote:
    On 7/7/2023 7:07 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
    Somebody asked how many British records made my 1964 list.

    The answer iis three

    91. Eight Days A Week Beatles
    94. The House Of The Rising Sun Animals

    Bubbling Under

    105. Gloria Them


    ROGER FORD

    Roger, just curious.

    What is your favorite Rolling Stones record ?

    I don't care for much by them but I always kinda liked "19th Nervous Breakdown"
    And your favorite all-time British record ?

    Lonnie Donegan's "Rock Island Line" was a real milestone here but I
    think my all time favorite UK 45 is probably "Shakin' All Over" by
    Johnny Kidd & The Prirates

    That one is from 1960 and since there's been some attention given to
    the 60's on here lately was considering doing some posts on my
    favorite records of the period even at risk of going well off topic

    What do you think?

    As far as I'm concerned there's nothing cannot be discussed here. It's a small community of people who have pretty much all been around here for like 20+ years by now, and anything goes IMO. Of course the main thing holding us together is 1950s era music,
    but lots of other topics are of interest.

    Nobody is forcing anybody to read any threads that they are not interested in.

    Here's something of interest:

    The first 4 days of this week (Mon-Tue-Wed-Thu) were all the hottest day ever on the planet since records have been kept. Tuesday surpassed Monday, and Wednesday surpassed Tuesday, and then Thursday surpassed Wednesday. but the Republican say that Global
    warming and climate change are hoaxes.

    Check it out below, you're a weather guy.

    Earth reaches hottest day ever recorded 4 days in a row
    Even higher temperatures are expected in July and August as El Niño strengthens.

    For four days in a row, the planet reached its hottest day ever recorded as regions all over the world endure dangerous heat.

    Earth warmed to the highest temperature ever recorded by human-made instruments when the average global temperature reached 17.18 degrees Celsius, or 62.92 degrees Fahrenheit, on Tuesday, as millions of Americans celebrated the Fourth of July, data from
    the U.S. National Centers for Environmental Prediction shows.

    On Wednesday, the record was tied as global temperatures again reached 17.18 degrees Celsius. That record was broken on Thursday as global temperatures climbed to 17.23 degrees Celsius, or 63.01 degrees Fahrenheit, according to the NCEP.

    The record was first set on Monday, when average global temperatures measured at 16.2 degrees Celsius, or 61.16 degrees Fahrenheit, but it only took one day to surpass that temperature.

    The heat blanketing much of Earth has been driven by El Niño in combination with the greenhouse gas emissions responsible for global warming, researchers say.

    Those conditions may prompt even hotter temperatures over the next six weeks, according to Robert Rohde, a physicist and lead scientist at Berkeley Earth, a non-profit environmental data analysis group.

    Although the data only exists after 1979, this week's temperatures likely represent the record for long before global temperatures began to be recorded, Rhode said in a Twitter post on Wednesday.

    "Global warming is leading us into an unfamiliar world," Rhode tweeted.

    The record was broken at the same time that some regions in the southern United States are facing a weeks-long heat wave with dangerous temperatures, as well as intense heat domes occurring elsewhere in the world in places like China and North Africa.

    Earth had the warmest June on record for air temperature and for sea surface temperature, but July and August could prove to be even hotter as El Niño continues to strengthen, Brian Brettschneider, a climate scientist based in Anchorage, Alaska, wrote
    on Twitter.

    June global temperature has been climbing since 1980, Brettschneider said.

    Heat is the number-one weather-related killer in the world, with more than 600 people dying from heat-related illnesses every year in the U.S., according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    At least 13 people have died from heat-related illness in Texas so far this summer.

    ABC News' Max Golembo, Tracy Wholf, Samantha Wnek and Ginger Zee contributed to this report.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bill B on Fri Jul 7 16:38:13 2023
    On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 4:40:54 PM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:
    On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 4:18:24 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    As far as I'm concerned there's nothing cannot be discussed here. It's a small community of people who have pretty much all been around here for like 20+ years by now, and anything goes IMO. Of course the main thing holding us together is 1950s era
    music, but lots of other topics are of interest.

    Nobody is forcing anybody to read any threads that they are not interested in.

    It won't be a small community after the topics draw external interest and comments. I like it the way it is and don't want to risk drawing foul mouthed trolls. Your suggestion is a dangerous road on which to travel.

    Oh bullshit. Nobody comes to Usenet. Trolls don't ant to troll a place with only 8 or 10 posters.

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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jul 8 03:46:38 2023
    On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 7:38:15 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 4:40:54 PM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:
    On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 4:18:24 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    As far as I'm concerned there's nothing cannot be discussed here. It's a small community of people who have pretty much all been around here for like 20+ years by now, and anything goes IMO. Of course the main thing holding us together is 1950s era
    music, but lots of other topics are of interest.

    Nobody is forcing anybody to read any threads that they are not interested in.

    It won't be a small community after the topics draw external interest and comments. I like it the way it is and don't want to risk drawing foul mouthed trolls. Your suggestion is a dangerous road on which to travel.
    Oh bullshit. Nobody comes to Usenet. Trolls don't ant to troll a place with only 8 or 10 posters.


    They won't be coming here to troll. They will come to comment on the topics. But some will be abrasive trolls in their online personnas.

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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jul 8 06:59:20 2023
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 9:36:33 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 6:46:40 AM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:

    They won't be coming here to troll. They will come to comment on the topics. But some will be abrasive trolls in their online personnas.
    And just how do you think they will see these topics in the first place?

    Do you think there is an army of people who are regularly checking this group and deciding not to post when they see the topics we have now?

    I don't think anybody who doesn't already read this group is stopping here to check topics. Nobody bothers with Usenet any more. It's extremely small potatoes.

    You don't have to stop here. You can do a search for any mentions of a chosen topic. I think that was how Peter Stoller found us, doing a search for the Coasters.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bill B on Sat Jul 8 07:11:25 2023
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 9:59:22 AM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:

    You don't have to stop here. You can do a search for any mentions of a chosen topic. I think that was how Peter Stoller found us, doing a search for the Coasters.

    I don't think any search for any subject that normal people care about will yield a result from here that would get near the top of any search results. If we had a topic about Donald Trump a search for that would yield many millions of results and our
    thread would be on like the 780,000th page of the results.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bill B on Sat Jul 8 06:36:31 2023
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 6:46:40 AM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:

    They won't be coming here to troll. They will come to comment on the topics. But some will be abrasive trolls in their online personnas.

    And just how do you think they will see these topics in the first place?

    Do you think there is an army of people who are regularly checking this group and deciding not to post when they see the topics we have now?

    I don't think anybody who doesn't already read this group is stopping here to check topics. Nobody bothers with Usenet any more. It's extremely small potatoes.

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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jul 8 07:07:30 2023
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 9:36:33 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    Nobody bothers with Usenet any more. It's extremely small potatoes.

    In answer to the query "Is Usenet Dead," Bard states:

    Despite its decline in popularity, Usenet is still a viable platform for online discussion. It is a decentralized system, which means that it is not controlled by any one entity. This makes it a more reliable platform than forums and social media
    platforms, which can be shut down or censored by their owners.

    Usenet is also a more anonymous platform than forums and social media platforms. This can be appealing to users who want to discuss sensitive topics without revealing their identity.

    Overall, Usenet is not dead, but it is no longer as popular as it once was. It is a viable platform for online discussion, but it is not as user-friendly or well-moderated as other online discussion platforms.

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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jul 8 07:52:19 2023
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 10:16:58 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Well clearly it's not technically "dead," which to Bard means no longer in service. Bard doesn't understand the slang meaning of "dead," as in a club that used to be packed with 500 people but now only has 16 people sitting at the bar.

    It's good to know you know what Bard is thinking. Perhaps all Bard inquiries should be directed to you.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bill B on Sat Jul 8 07:16:56 2023
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 10:07:32 AM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 9:36:33 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    Nobody bothers with Usenet any more. It's extremely small potatoes.
    In answer to the query "Is Usenet Dead," Bard states:

    Despite its decline in popularity, Usenet is still a viable platform for online discussion. It is a decentralized system, which means that it is not controlled by any one entity. This makes it a more reliable platform than forums and social media
    platforms, which can be shut down or censored by their owners.

    Usenet is also a more anonymous platform than forums and social media platforms. This can be appealing to users who want to discuss sensitive topics without revealing their identity.

    Overall, Usenet is not dead, but it is no longer as popular as it once was. It is a viable platform for online discussion, but it is not as user-friendly or well-moderated as other online discussion platforms.

    Well clearly it's not technically "dead," which to Bard means no longer in service. Bard doesn't understand the slang meaning of "dead," as in a club that used to be packed with 500 people but now only has 16 people sitting at the bar.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bill B on Sat Jul 8 07:58:24 2023
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 10:16:58 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Well clearly it's not technically "dead," which to Bard means no longer in service. Bard doesn't understand the slang meaning of "dead," as in a club that used to be packed with 500 people but now only has 16 people sitting at the bar.

    It's good to know you know what Bard is thinking. Perhaps all Bard inquiries should be directed to you.

    Yes. By the way there are actually more Usenet posts than ever now as the internet is so big all over the world now, but the total number of posts is miniscule compared to posts in all of the other forums on the net, and much of the increase is just spam
    and bots (read below).

    Daily Volume -Daily Posts - Date
    4.5 GiB 1996 Dec
    9 GiB 1997 Jul
    12 GiB 554 k 1998 Jan
    26 GiB 609 k 1999 Jan
    82 GiB 858 k 2000 Jan
    181 GiB 1.24 M 2001 Jan
    257 GiB 1.48 M 2002 Jan
    492 GiB 2.09 M 2003 Jan
    969 GiB 3.30 M 2004 Jan
    1.52 TiB 5.09 M 2005 Jan
    2.27 TiB 7.54 M 2006 Jan
    2.95 TiB 9.84 M 2007 Jan
    3.07 TiB 10.13 M 2008 Jan
    4.65 TiB 14.64 M 2009 Jan
    5.42 TiB 15.66 M 2010 Jan
    7.52 TiB 20.12 M 2011 Jan
    9.29 TiB 23.91 M 2012 Jan
    11.49 TiB 28.14 M 2013 Jan
    14.61 TiB 37.56 M 2014 Jan
    17.87 TiB 44.19 M 2015 Jan
    23.87 TiB 55.59 M 2016 Jan
    27.80 TiB 64.55 M 2017 Jan
    37.35 TiB 73.95 M 2018 Jan
    60.38 TiB 104.04 M 2019 Jan
    62.40 TiB 107.49 M 2020 Jan
    100.71 TiB 171.86 M 2021 Jan

    However, these averages are minuscule in comparison to the traffic in the binary groups. Much of this traffic increase reflects not an increase in discrete users or newsgroup discussions, but instead the combination of massive automated spamming and an
    increase in the use of .binaries newsgroups in which large files are often posted publicly.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Jul 8 08:03:39 2023
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 10:58:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:
    On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 10:16:58 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Well clearly it's not technically "dead," which to Bard means no longer in service. Bard doesn't understand the slang meaning of "dead," as in a club that used to be packed with 500 people but now only has 16 people sitting at the bar.

    It's good to know you know what Bard is thinking. Perhaps all Bard inquiries should be directed to you.
    Yes. By the way there are actually more Usenet posts than ever now as the internet is so big all over the world now, but the total number of posts is miniscule compared to posts in all of the other forums on the net, and much of the increase is just
    spam and bots (read below).

    Daily Volume -Daily Posts - Date
    4.5 GiB 1996 Dec
    9 GiB 1997 Jul
    12 GiB 554 k 1998 Jan
    26 GiB 609 k 1999 Jan
    82 GiB 858 k 2000 Jan
    181 GiB 1.24 M 2001 Jan
    257 GiB 1.48 M 2002 Jan
    492 GiB 2.09 M 2003 Jan
    969 GiB 3.30 M 2004 Jan
    1.52 TiB 5.09 M 2005 Jan
    2.27 TiB 7.54 M 2006 Jan
    2.95 TiB 9.84 M 2007 Jan
    3.07 TiB 10.13 M 2008 Jan
    4.65 TiB 14.64 M 2009 Jan
    5.42 TiB 15.66 M 2010 Jan
    7.52 TiB 20.12 M 2011 Jan
    9.29 TiB 23.91 M 2012 Jan
    11.49 TiB 28.14 M 2013 Jan
    14.61 TiB 37.56 M 2014 Jan
    17.87 TiB 44.19 M 2015 Jan
    23.87 TiB 55.59 M 2016 Jan
    27.80 TiB 64.55 M 2017 Jan
    37.35 TiB 73.95 M 2018 Jan
    60.38 TiB 104.04 M 2019 Jan
    62.40 TiB 107.49 M 2020 Jan
    100.71 TiB 171.86 M 2021 Jan

    However, these averages are minuscule in comparison to the traffic in the binary groups. Much of this traffic increase reflects not an increase in discrete users or newsgroup discussions, but instead the combination of massive automated spamming and an
    increase in the use of .binaries newsgroups in which large files are often posted publicly.

    The percentage I am most interested in is the ratio of new offensive posters to existing members. Just one would be around 10%, two 20% etc.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)