on April 4, 1953, this record went to #1 in the US Billboard chart,-----------
staying at that top spot for eight weeks; the song was wildly popular
across a wide demographic; the song has since become a popular
children's song
Wiki:
*UK*
Cover Version by Lita Roza (bigger hit in UK than Page's original):
UK PM Margaret Thatcher, in the 1980s, admitted that Lita Roza's
version of "Doggie" was her favorite song of all time {LOL}
Mercury had poor distribution in the UK and so a recording by Lita
Rosa, titled "(How Much Is) That Doggie In The Window", was the
version most widely heard in the UK, making its UK top 10 debut in
March, 1953 and reaching UK #1 in April:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg74viA_x0E (The 78Prof)
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:47:27 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:
Wiki:
*UK*
Cover Version by Lita Roza (bigger hit in UK than Page's original):
UK PM Margaret Thatcher, in the 1980s, admitted that Lita Roza's
version of "Doggie" was her favorite song of all time {LOL}
Maggie was the best PM of my lifetime
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 3:36:21=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:47:27 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:=20
=20
=20Maggie was the best PM of my lifetime=20
Wiki:
=20
=20
*UK*=20
Cover Version by Lita Roza (bigger hit in UK than Page's original):=20
=20
UK PM Margaret Thatcher, in the 1980s, admitted that Lita Roza's=20
version of "Doggie" was her favorite song of all time {LOL}=20
Thatcher's job approval rating fell to 23% by December 1980, lower than rec= >orded for any previous prime minister. Later her "community charge" was the=
beginning of the end for her
On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 13:41:55 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 3:36:21=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:47:27 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:=20 >>=20
=20Maggie was the best PM of my lifetime=20
Wiki:
=20
=20
*UK*=20
Cover Version by Lita Roza (bigger hit in UK than Page's original):=20 >> >=20
UK PM Margaret Thatcher, in the 1980s, admitted that Lita Roza's=20
version of "Doggie" was her favorite song of all time {LOL}=20
Thatcher's job approval rating fell to 23% by December 1980, lower than rec=
orded for any previous prime minister. Later her "community charge" was the=
beginning of the end for her
Yes the way the "poll tax" was introduced was something of a fiasco
but it didn't stop me voting for the best PM of my lifetime----any
more than I'm betting a major Biden mistake--say the embarrassingly
awful way the Afghanistan withdrawal was conducted will not stop you
voting for him next year if he runs again---especially if the
Republican candidate is....oh what's his name???
I see Thatcher was very strong on doing something about climate change. Apparently conservative has an entirely different mean over there, because there's not one Republican here who wants to do anything about climate change. Most of them think it's ahoax.
On 7/2/2023 1:43 AM, Bruce wrote:hoax.
I see Thatcher was very strong on doing something about climate change. Apparently conservative has an entirely different mean over there, because there's not one Republican here who wants to do anything about climate change. Most of them think it's a
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There is at least one, although he's not in office--Arnold Schwarzenegger.
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 12:45:28=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 13:41:55 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=20
wrote:=20
=20
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 3:36:21=3DE2=3D80=3DAFPM UTC-4, Roger Ford = >wrote:=20
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:47:27 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:=3D2= >0=20=20
=3D20=20
=3D20=20Maggie was the best PM of my lifetime=3D20=20
Wiki:=20
=3D20=20
=3D20=20
*UK*=3D20=20
Cover Version by Lita Roza (bigger hit in UK than Page's original):= >=3D20=20
=3D20=20
UK PM Margaret Thatcher, in the 1980s, admitted that Lita Roza's=3D20= >=20
version of "Doggie" was her favorite song of all time {LOL}=3D20=20
=20
Thatcher's job approval rating fell to 23% by December 1980, lower than = >rec=3D=20
orded for any previous prime minister. Later her "community charge" was = >the=3D
beginning of the end for her
Yes the way the "poll tax" was introduced was something of a fiasco=20
but it didn't stop me voting for the best PM of my lifetime----any=20
more than I'm betting a major Biden mistake--say the embarrassingly=20
awful way the Afghanistan withdrawal was conducted will not stop you=20
voting for him next year if he runs again---especially if the=20
Republican candidate is....oh what's his name???
The Afghanistan withdrawal was gonna happen like that no matter who or when=
it was finally done. And it's really no big deal anyway. And it doesn't ma=
tter who is running, I'll never vote for any Republican. If you lived here = >would you vote Republican, and be part of their racist homophobic retrograd= >e ways? Are you for people being able to walk around with assault weapons, = >and women being unable to get abortions, even if they need it to save their=
own lives? Do you agree with them banning books, and allowing anyone to ca=
rry a concealed weapon without a license or even a background check?
I see Thatcher was very strong on doing something about climate change. App= >arently conservative has an entirely different mean over there, because the= >re's not one Republican here who wants to do anything about climate change.=
Most of them think it's a hoax.
Honestly I can't see ANYTHING about Republicans here that is the least bit = >good. What abou you Riger, is there anything about the Republican policies = >here that you like?=20
The platform of the Republican Party of the United States is generally based on
American conservatism,[1][2][3] contrasting with the modern liberalism of the Democratic
Party. The positions of the Republican Party have evolved over time. Currently, the party's
fiscal conservatism includes support for lower taxes,
small government conservatism,[4] free market capitalism, free trade,[5]
The party's social conservatism includes support for gun rights
outlined in the Second Amendment, the death penalty,
and other traditional values, often with a Christian foundation,
including restrictions on abortion.[6] In foreign policy,
Republicans usually favor increased military spending,
strong national defense, and unilateral action
I believe the first duty of government is the defence of the nation.
On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 22:43:43 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>-----------
wrote:
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 12:45:28=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:No I have never agreed with any system that allows people be able to
On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 13:41:55 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=20=3D20=20
wrote:=20
=20
On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 3:36:21=3DE2=3D80=3DAFPM UTC-4, Roger Ford = >> wrote:=20
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:47:27 -0400, RWC <lets...@opbox.com> wrote:=3D2= >> 0=20
=3D20=20
=3D20=20
Wiki:=20
=3D20=20
=3D20=20
*UK*=3D20=20
Cover Version by Lita Roza (bigger hit in UK than Page's original):=
=20=3D20=20Maggie was the best PM of my lifetime=3D20=20
UK PM Margaret Thatcher, in the 1980s, admitted that Lita Roza's=3D20= >> =20
version of "Doggie" was her favorite song of all time {LOL}=3D20=20 >>>>>> =20
Thatcher's job approval rating fell to 23% by December 1980, lower than = >> rec=3D=20
orded for any previous prime minister. Later her "community charge" was = >> the=3D
beginning of the end for her
Yes the way the "poll tax" was introduced was something of a fiasco=20
but it didn't stop me voting for the best PM of my lifetime----any=20
more than I'm betting a major Biden mistake--say the embarrassingly=20
awful way the Afghanistan withdrawal was conducted will not stop you=20
voting for him next year if he runs again---especially if the=20
Republican candidate is....oh what's his name???
The Afghanistan withdrawal was gonna happen like that no matter who or when= >> it was finally done. And it's really no big deal anyway. And it doesn't ma= >> tter who is running, I'll never vote for any Republican. If you lived here = >> would you vote Republican, and be part of their racist homophobic retrograd= >> e ways? Are you for people being able to walk around with assault weapons, = >> and women being unable to get abortions, even if they need it to save their= >> own lives? Do you agree with them banning books, and allowing anyone to ca= >> rry a concealed weapon without a license or even a background check?
acquire guns of any kind with ease.
I see Thatcher was very strong on doing something about climate change. App= >> arently conservative has an entirely different mean over there, because the= >> re's not one Republican here who wants to do anything about climate change.= >> Most of them think it's a hoax.
I don't think its a hoax but I do beliieve the folk currently
protesting over here about climate change are wasting their time since
unless the really big polluting countries like China and Indiia with
their enormous populations are on board then any anti-climate change
measures by the likes of the miniscule UK are in vain.
Sadly they show no sign of changing their ways
Honestly I can't see ANYTHING about Republicans here that is the least bit = >> good. What abou you Riger, is there anything about the Republican policies = >> here that you like?=20This piece from Wiki outlines the main Republican ideals I think.
Let's see what I agree with
The platform of the Republican Party of the United States is generally based on
American conservatism,[1][2][3] contrasting with the modern liberalism of the Democratic
Party. The positions of the Republican Party have evolved over time. Currently, the party's
fiscal conservatism includes support for lower taxes,
I've always believed in low taxes. People should be able to keep as
much as podssible of their own money
small government conservatism,[4] free market capitalism, free trade,[5]
Yes,yes and yes
As for capitalism it has its faults of course. But so far nobody has
come up with anything better
The party's social conservatism includes support for gun rights
See above
outlined in the Second Amendment, the death penalty,
The UK no longer has the death penalty. I'm easy with that
and other traditional values, often with a Christian foundation,
Thank God I'm a life long atheiest
including restrictions on abortion.[6] In foreign policy,
Republicans usually favor increased military spending,
strong national defense, and unilateral action
I believe the first duty of government is the defence of the nation.
That's it....and I still don't know what the fuck any of this has to
do with that bloody stupid doggie in that window!!!
-----------
There actually is a political angle to the doggie in the window! In New
York State (probably some other "blue" states too) pet stores can no
longer sell puppies.
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:34:37 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:-----------
-----------
There actually is a political angle to the doggie in the window! In New
York State (probably some other "blue" states too) pet stores can no
longer sell puppies.
How come?
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:34:20?AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
I believe the first duty of government is the defence of the nation.
Sounds like if you were an American citizen that you'd align more with the Democrats.
People should be able to keep as much as possible of their own money
Capitalism has its faults of course. But so far nobody has
come up with anything better
The UK no longer has the death penalty. I'm easy with that.
On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 06:21:49 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:34:20?AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
I believe the first duty of government is the defence of the nation.
Sounds like if you were an American citizen that you'd align more with the Democrats.
Could be wishful thinking, Bruce. Despite some gun control issues
I reckon Roger would vote Republican. There are many important
similarities in the ideology/mindset of US Republicans and UK
Conservatives, such as:
. lower/minimum taxes
. small government
. minimum restrictions on capitalism
. free trade
. strong national defense
People should be able to keep as much as possible of their own money
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 9:07:40?AM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 06:21:49 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 8:34:20?AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:Could be wishful thinking, Bruce. Despite some gun control issues
I believe the first duty of government is the defence of the nation.
Sounds like if you were an American citizen that you'd align more with the Democrats.
I reckon Roger would vote Republican. There are many important
similarities in the ideology/mindset of US Republicans and UK
Conservatives, such as:
. lower/minimum taxes
Except Republicans only lower taxes on millionaires and billionaires. Someone like Roger driving a taxi or being retired is not gonna pay any less.
. small government
You mean like how the Republicans are banning books, making abortion illegal, not letting gender being discussed through 12th grade, banning Black history from being taught in state colleges, etc....Is that small government?
. minimum restrictions on capitalism
So we can have another financil crash like the one Bush ushered in in 2008?
. free trade
You mean like the tariffs and restrictions Trump put on trade with China?
. strong national defense
Yes, we need more nuclear weapons and tanks and planes that we don't even want because so many other counytries keep sending their troops here to attack us.
People should be able to keep as much as possible of their own money
Except the Republicans have gutted the IRS of investigators who were making sure that people with money paid what they should be paying. They don't want their billionaire donors getting caught cheating on their taxes.
Is that what you call it, gun control issues?
In 2021, the most recent year for which complete data is available, 48,830 people died from gun-related injuries in the U.S., according to the CDC.
That's 134 people a day. The country has more guns than people. The Republicans say we need more guns. Their answer to school shootings is to "are the teachers."
these are fringe concerns for most heterosexual white folk - as always, employment and cost of living issues are more important
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 3:13:50?PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
these are fringe concerns for most heterosexual white folk - as always,
employment and cost of living issues are more important
Employment levels over the last 50 years have been WAY better under Democrats.
And why the fuck should we only care about heterosexual whites?
And why leave aside one of the biggest issues, abortions ...
Are you saying that Roger only cares about what effects him personally?
I don't know Roger well enough to say, but Roger has clearly expressed support of most right-wing political values (one exception being that
Roger is not influenced by religious dogma)
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:56:32 PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:about climate change. He'll have to tell us what he thinks about abortion, but I highly doubt that he wants it to be illegal.
I don't know Roger well enough to say, but Roger has clearly expressed support of most right-wing political values (one exception being that Roger is not influenced by religious dogma)I don't see that at all. He's against guns. I doubt he supports voter suppression, or anti black or gay sentiment or trans sentiment. I'm pretty sure he thinks Trump is an asshole and pretty much thought that for years now. He's for doing something
I just think that conservative in the UK is akin to a centrist Democrat here. I'd be surprised if he thought that either Bush or Trump was a better president than Obama, but maybe he'll tell us.Though in Thatcher's Britain, climate change doesn't mean changing or replacing cars to automatic since they're near-all manual.!(Love Patti's DOGGIE, as that's what I know,being from US)
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:56:32=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
I don't know Roger well enough to say, but Roger has clearly expressed=20
support of most right-wing political values (one exception being that=20
Roger is not influenced by religious dogma)
I don't see that at all. He's against guns.
I doubt he supports voter suppession, or anti black or gay sentiment or trans sentiment.
I'm pretty sure he thinks Trump is an asshole and pretty much thought that for years now.
He's for doing something about climate change.
He'll have to tell us what he thinks about abortion, but I highly doubt that he wants it to be illegal.
I just think that conservative in the UK is akin to a centrist Democrat her= >e. I'd be surprised if he thought that either Bush or Trump was a better pr= >esident than Obama, but maybe he'll tell us.
Though in Thatcher's Britain, climate change doesn't mean changing or replacing cars to automatic since they're near-all manual.!(Love Patti's DOGGIE, as that's what I know,being from US)---------
There actually is a political angle to the doggie in the window! In New
York State (probably some other "blue" states too) pet stores can no
longer sell puppies. If you want a dog you have to buy it from a
breeder or adopt it from a shelter.
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
I just think that conservative in the UK is akin to a centrist Democrat her=
e. I'd be surprised if he thought that either Bush or Trump was a better pr= >esident than Obama, but maybe he'll tell us.
I didn't care much for any of them to be honest.
On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 3:10:33=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=20pr=3D
wrote:=20
=20
I just think that conservative in the UK is akin to a centrist Democrat = >her=3D=20
e. I'd be surprised if he thought that either Bush or Trump was a better=
esident than Obama, but maybe he'll tell us.
I didn't care much for any of them to be honest.
Okay, so if you had to rank those 3 guys in order, Bush, Trump and Obama, w= >hat would it be?
By the way, for me, Obama was the best president of MY lifetime.
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 07:38:12 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 3:10:33=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=20her=3D=20
wrote:=20
=20
I just think that conservative in the UK is akin to a centrist Democrat =
pr=3De. I'd be surprised if he thought that either Bush or Trump was a better=
esident than Obama, but maybe he'll tell us.
I didn't care much for any of them to be honest.
Okay, so if you had to rank those 3 guys in order, Bush, Trump and Obama, w= >hat would it be?
By the way, for me, Obama was the best president of MY lifetime.None of them were MY President and I only wtinessed their dongs very
much second hand via the UK media from an ocean away
Nevertheless I'll go with Bush (I assume you mean Bush Jr) first since
I think he handled the major 9/11 crisis quite well.
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:56:32?PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
I don't know Roger well enough to say, but Roger has clearly expressed
support of most right-wing political values (one exception being that
Roger is not influenced by religious dogma)
I don't see that at all.
He's against guns.
I doubt he supports voter suppression, or anti black or gay sentiment or trans sentiment.
I'm pretty sure he thinks Trump is an asshole and pretty much thought that for years now.
He's for doing something about climate change.
He'll have to tell us what he thinks about abortion, but I highly doubt that he wants it to be illegal.
I just think that Conservative in the UK is akin to a centrist Democrat here.
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:56:32?PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
He's against guns.
Yes, I should have mentioned that as an exception.
I doubt he supports voter suppression, or anti black or gay sentiment or trans sentiment.
I totally agree, but it's a matter of prioritizing outcomes. I could
be wrong but I doubt Roger would put these suppressions and sentiments before a promise of tax cuts or their maintenance
Ron DeSantis, on the other hand, has dismissed concerns about global
heating as "left wing stuff"
On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 3:35:15?PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:56:32?PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
He's against guns.
Yes, I should have mentioned that as an exception.
I doubt he supports voter suppression, or anti black or gay sentiment or trans sentiment.
I totally agree, but it's a matter of prioritizing outcomes. I could
be wrong but I doubt Roger would put these suppressions and sentiments
before a promise of tax cuts or their maintenance
I think it's very sad if people are more worried about keeping an extra $1200 off their taxes than about all the guns and shootings and all of the other shit the Republicans are doing.
But I guess it's difficult for non Americans to understand all the right wing shit going on here.
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 13:06:41 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 3:35:15?PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
wrote:
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:56:32?PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
He's against guns.
Yes, I should have mentioned that as an exception.
I doubt he supports voter suppression, or anti black or gay sentiment or trans sentiment.
I totally agree, but it's a matter of prioritizing outcomes. I could
be wrong but I doubt Roger would put these suppressions and sentiments
before a promise of tax cuts or their maintenance
I think it's very sad if people are more worried about keeping an extra $1200 off their taxes than about all the guns and shootings and all of the other shit the Republicans are doing.yes, but the voter might also be taking into account other items in
the Republican and Democrat manifestos (public declarations of policy
and aims)
But I guess it's difficult for non Americans to understand all the right wing shit going on here.I guess that largely depends on the degree of exposure that local
(e.g. British) media (news, panel discussions, and documentaries)
gives to all this right wing goings on, federal and red state
I bet less than 10% of the country could name the Secretary of State.
On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 3:35:15=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=20
wrote:
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:56:32?PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:=20
trans sentiment.He's against guns.=20=20
Yes, I should have mentioned that as an exception.
I doubt he supports voter suppression, or anti black or gay sentiment or=
I totally agree, but it's a matter of prioritizing outcomes. I could=20
be wrong but I doubt Roger would put these suppressions and sentiments=20
before a promise of tax cuts or their maintenance=20
I think it's very sad if people are more worried about keeping an extra $12= >00 off their taxes than about all the guns and shootings and all of the oth= >er shit the Republicans are doing. But I guess it's difficult for non Ameri= >cans to understand all the right wing shit going on here. Guns are not a pr= >oblem in the UK, I think they have more knife fatalities there than gun fat= >alities
On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 7:41:50=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 13:06:41 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=20or trans sentiment.=20
wrote:
On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 3:35:15?PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:=20
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=20=20
wrote:=20
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:56:32?PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:=20
He's against guns.=20=20
Yes, I should have mentioned that as an exception.=20
I doubt he supports voter suppression, or anti black or gay sentiment=
=20yes, but the voter might also be taking into account other items in=20
I totally agree, but it's a matter of prioritizing outcomes. I could= >=20=20
be wrong but I doubt Roger would put these suppressions and sentiments= >=20
before a promise of tax cuts or their maintenance=20
I think it's very sad if people are more worried about keeping an extra = >$1200 off their taxes than about all the guns and shootings and all of the = >other shit the Republicans are doing.
the Republican and Democrat manifestos (public declarations of policy=20
and aims)
But I guess it's difficult for non Americans to understand all the righ= >t wing shit going on here.I guess that largely depends on the degree of exposure that local=20
(e.g. British) media (news, panel discussions, and documentaries)=20
gives to all this right wing goings on, federal and red state
Also the person's interest in it. There's loads of Americans who have no id= >ea what's going on. More than half of the country could not name the vice p= >resident. I bet less than 10% of the country could name the Secretary of St= >ate. Less than 5% could name the Chief of Staff. So of course it would be m= >uch lower in the UK. I don't even know who is the current PM over there.
On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 10:52:09=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 07:38:12 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=20
wrote:=20
=20
On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 3:10:33=3DE2=3D80=3DAFAM UTC-4, Roger Ford w= >rote:=20None of them were MY President and I only wtinessed their dongs very=20
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>=3D20= >=20her=3D3D=3D20=20
wrote:=3D20=20
=3D20=20
I just think that conservative in the UK is akin to a centrist Democr= >at =3D=20
pr=3D3De. I'd be surprised if he thought that either Bush or Trump was a bet= >ter=3D=20
=20esident than Obama, but maybe he'll tell us.=20
I didn't care much for any of them to be honest.=20
Okay, so if you had to rank those 3 guys in order, Bush, Trump and Obama= >, w=3D
hat would it be?=20
=20
By the way, for me, Obama was the best president of MY lifetime.
much second hand via the UK media from an ocean away=20
=20
Nevertheless I'll go with Bush (I assume you mean Bush Jr) first since=20
I think he handled the major 9/11 crisis quite well.=20
Really?
You were for us invading Afghanistan and then Iraq?
Bush put the country in major debt and got thousands more of our people kil= >led with those 2 needless wars.=20
Obama is the one who caught Bin Laden, and brought us back from Bush's brin= >k of bankruptcy
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