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  • Jim, do you think this is correct?

    From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 27 21:03:44 2023
    ALL I'VE GOTTA DO was recorded for the The Beatles second studio album, With The Beatles.

    Unbelievably, Paul heard it for the first time from John minutes before they went into the studio to record it. The other three heard John's demo then filled in beautifully; what genius Yet another of their underrated classics, with John's haunted and
    edgy vocals, and an equally matched performance from Paul, George and Ringo It's also interesting to note that, according to Dennis Alstrand from his book 'The Evolution of Rock Bass Playing; McCartney Style' this is the first time in rock music where
    the bass player plays chords in the main body of the song.

    Is that true, the first rock song where the bass player plays chords in the main body of the song?

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  • From Jim Colegrove@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 28 06:56:26 2023
    On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 21:03:44 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    ALL I'VE GOTTA DO was recorded for the The Beatles second studio album, With The Beatles.

    Unbelievably, Paul heard it for the first time from John minutes before they went into the studio to record it. The other three heard John's demo then filled in beautifully; what genius Yet another of their underrated classics, with John's haunted and
    edgy vocals, and an equally matched performance from Paul, George and Ringo It's also interesting to note that, according to Dennis Alstrand from his book 'The Evolution of Rock Bass Playing; McCartney Style' this is the first time in rock music where
    the bass player plays chords in the main body of the song.

    Is that true, the first rock song where the bass player plays chords in the main body of the song?

    Offhand, I dont know the answer to this but I haven't listened closely
    to the track in a while to even remember who's playing what. Let me
    check this out.

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  • From Jim Colegrove@21:1/5 to coolg@thecoolgroove.com on Fri Jul 28 07:24:31 2023
    On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 06:56:26 -0500, Jim Colegrove
    <coolg@thecoolgroove.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 21:03:44 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    ALL I'VE GOTTA DO was recorded for the The Beatles second studio album, With The Beatles.

    Unbelievably, Paul heard it for the first time from John minutes before they went into the studio to record it. The other three heard John's demo then filled in beautifully; what genius Yet another of their underrated classics, with John's haunted and
    edgy vocals, and an equally matched performance from Paul, George and Ringo It's also interesting to note that, according to Dennis Alstrand from his book 'The Evolution of Rock Bass Playing; McCartney Style' this is the first time in rock music where
    the bass player plays chords in the main body of the song.

    Is that true, the first rock song where the bass player plays chords in the main body of the song?

    Offhand, I dont know the answer to this but I haven't listened closely
    to the track in a while to even remember who's playing what. Let me
    check this out.

    Listened to it. Someone with better ears than mine will have to point
    out where these "chords he plays are located. A chord is made up of 3
    distinct notes of a scale played at the same time. I don't hear that
    anwhere. He plays the fifth above the root and not below. Even if he
    played them together at the same time it's still not a chord but an
    "interval." To me this is an arugument looking for a place to happen.
    I also don't know what is "unbelieveable" about hearing it for the
    first time before they recorded it. That happened all the time when
    you went on a session. Stuido musicians did it every day.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Jim Colegrove on Fri Jul 28 07:12:39 2023
    On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 8:24:35 AM UTC-4, Jim Colegrove wrote:
    On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 06:56:26 -0500, Jim Colegrove
    <co...@thecoolgroove.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 21:03:44 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <Sav...@aol.com>
    wrote:

    ALL I'VE GOTTA DO was recorded for the The Beatles second studio album, With The Beatles.

    Unbelievably, Paul heard it for the first time from John minutes before they went into the studio to record it. The other three heard John's demo then filled in beautifully; what genius Yet another of their underrated classics, with John's haunted
    and edgy vocals, and an equally matched performance from Paul, George and Ringo It's also interesting to note that, according to Dennis Alstrand from his book 'The Evolution of Rock Bass Playing; McCartney Style' this is the first time in rock music
    where the bass player plays chords in the main body of the song.

    Is that true, the first rock song where the bass player plays chords in the main body of the song?

    Offhand, I dont know the answer to this but I haven't listened closely
    to the track in a while to even remember who's playing what. Let me
    check this out.
    Listened to it. Someone with better ears than mine will have to point
    out where these "chords he plays are located. A chord is made up of 3 distinct notes of a scale played at the same time. I don't hear that anwhere. He plays the fifth above the root and not below. Even if he
    played them together at the same time it's still not a chord but an "interval." To me this is an arugument looking for a place to happen.
    I also don't know what is "unbelieveable" about hearing it for the
    first time before they recorded it. That happened all the time when
    you went on a session. Stuido musicians did it every day.

    I think the unbelievable part just means that in those early days John and Paul usually worked on every song together for a while before they were ready to record it. Maybe this was the first time that John wrote and totally completed a song entirely by
    himself and then sprung it on the other three guys just minutes before they went in to record it. Of course that's gonna happen all the time with studio musicians, but maybe it had never happened with the Beatles before.

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