• Sweet Little Sixteen or Reelin' and Rockin'

    From Steve Mc@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 11:08:34 2023
    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.


    --
    Steve Mc

    DNA to SBC to respond

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  • From Bill B@21:1/5 to Steve Mc on Wed Sep 27 11:54:02 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:08:37 PM UTC-4, Steve Mc wrote:
    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.

    Sweet Little Sixteen is upper tier Chuck Berry and Reelin' and Rockin' isn't.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 12:11:25 2023
    Roger's 1958 battle.

    Sixteen - #4, won 7 rounds, got 69.01% of the votes in its battles.

    Reelin' - #18, won 4 battles, got 75.64% of the votes in its battles.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 12:14:30 2023
    MY LISTS

    1957
    7 ¦ Sweet Little Sixteen ¦ Chuck Berry
    46 ¦ Reelin' And Rockin' ¦ Chuck Berry

    ALL TIME
    139 ¦ Sweet Little Sixteen ¦ Chuck Berry - 58
    785 ¦ Reelin' And Rockin' ¦ Chuck Berry - 58

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Steve Mc on Wed Sep 27 12:12:40 2023
    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 19:08:37 UTC+1, Steve Mc wrote:

    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.


    Reelin And Rocking
    Sweet Little Sixteen

    Both 10's

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 15:00:19 2023
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 11:54:02 -0700 (PDT), Bill B <bbug2@optonline.net>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:08:37?PM UTC-4, Steve Mc wrote:
    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.

    Sweet Little Sixteen is upper tier Chuck Berry and Reelin' and Rockin' isn't.

    Yes, a suspect choice of two competing songs by Steve on this
    occasion.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 12:09:02 2023
    Sixteen - 10
    Reelin' - 9

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Sep 27 12:32:42 2023
    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 20:14:32 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    MY LISTS

    1957
    7 ¦ Sweet Little Sixteen ¦ Chuck Berry
    46 ¦ Reelin' And Rockin' ¦ Chuck Berry

    Huh? This single is from 1958

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Wed Sep 27 12:39:06 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:32:44 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 20:14:32 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    MY LISTS

    1957
    7 ¦ Sweet Little Sixteen ¦ Chuck Berry
    46 ¦ Reelin' And Rockin' ¦ Chuck Berry
    Huh? This single is from 1958

    Oops.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk on Wed Sep 27 15:40:12 2023
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:12:40 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 19:08:37 UTC+1, Steve Mc wrote:

    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.


    Reelin And Rocking
    Sweet Little Sixteen

    Both 10's

    Roger, compared to other period r&b sides, the ordinary and repetitive
    "Reelin' And Rockin'" is more like a 4 (meaning: respectable but I
    don't care if I never hear it again).

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to RWC on Wed Sep 27 12:44:51 2023
    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 20:40:17 UTC+1, RWC wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:12:40 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 19:08:37 UTC+1, Steve Mc wrote:

    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.


    Reelin And Rocking
    Sweet Little Sixteen

    Both 10's
    Roger, compared to other period r&b sides, the ordinary and repetitive "Reelin' And Rockin'" is more like a 4 (meaning: respectable but I
    don't care if I never hear it again).

    So RWC really DOES stand for Real Whacko Child !!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to RWC on Wed Sep 27 13:13:36 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:40:17 PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:12:40 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 19:08:37 UTC+1, Steve Mc wrote:

    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.


    Reelin And Rocking
    Sweet Little Sixteen

    Both 10's
    Roger, compared to other period r&b sides, the ordinary and repetitive "Reelin' And Rockin'" is more like a 4 (meaning: respectable but I
    don't care if I never hear it again).

    First off, it's not really R&B, I classify at as rock and roll. All R&B is rock and roll, but not all rock and roll is R&B.

    Secondly, if you'd rather hear those shitass half rockabilly things that you are posting on there threads, then RWC must stand for Really Weird Cocksucker.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 15:20:10 2023
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:09:02 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    Sixteen - 10
    Reelin' - 9

    Sixteen will win every time

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 22:13:38 2023
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 13:13:36 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:40:17?PM UTC-4, RWC wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:12:40 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford
    <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 19:08:37 UTC+1, Steve Mc wrote:

    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.


    Reelin And Rocking
    Sweet Little Sixteen

    Both 10's
    Roger, compared to other period r&b sides, the ordinary and repetitive
    "Reelin' And Rockin'" is more like a 4 (meaning: respectable but I
    don't care if I never hear it again).

    If you'd rather hear those shitass half rockabilly
    things that you are posting on there threads, then RWC must stand for Really Weird Cocksucker.

    thanks for at least taking a peep at some of these posts

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  • From Dean F.@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Sep 27 18:56:19 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 3:09:04 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Sixteen - 10
    Reelin' - 9

    Sounds about right.

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  • From Mark D.@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 02:48:29 2023
    On Sep 27, 2023 at 1:08:34 PM CDT, "Steve Mc" <stevemc209@sbcglobal.net>
    wrote:

    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.

    Weren't Brown-Eyed Handsome Man and Too Much Monkey Business flip sides? If
    so, that would be a much more interesting one to discuss, and, imo, a much better record.


    --md

    remove "xx" for email

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk on Wed Sep 27 22:19:24 2023
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:44:51 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 20:40:17 UTC+1, RWC wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:12:40 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford
    <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 19:08:37 UTC+1, Steve Mc wrote:

    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.


    Reelin And Rocking
    Sweet Little Sixteen

    Both 10's
    Roger, compared to other period r&b sides, the ordinary and repetitive
    "Reelin' And Rockin'" is more like a 4 (meaning: respectable but I
    don't care if I never hear it again).

    So RWC really DOES stand for Real Whacko Child !!

    I didn't mean to rock your world to this extent, Roger :-)

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to RWC on Wed Sep 27 22:48:58 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 03:19:27 UTC+1, RWC wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:44:51 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 20:40:17 UTC+1, RWC wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:12:40 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford
    <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 27 September 2023 at 19:08:37 UTC+1, Steve Mc wrote:

    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.


    Reelin And Rocking
    Sweet Little Sixteen

    Both 10's
    Roger, compared to other period r&b sides, the ordinary and repetitive
    "Reelin' And Rockin'" is more like a 4 (meaning: respectable but I
    don't care if I never hear it again).

    So RWC really DOES stand for Real Whacko Child !!

    I didn't mean to rock your world to this extent, Roger :-)

    Sorry but the bare minimum requirement is that you be female to rock my world

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Mark D. on Wed Sep 27 22:57:14 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 03:48:41 UTC+1, Mark D. wrote:
    On Sep 27, 2023 at 1:08:34 PM CDT, "Steve Mc" <steve...@sbcglobal.net>
    wrote:
    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.
    Weren't Brown-Eyed Handsome Man and Too Much Monkey Business flip sides? If so, that would be a much more interesting one to discuss, and, imo, a much better record.

    Too Much Monkey Business
    Brown Eyed Handsome Man

    Both 10's of course

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Wed Sep 27 23:02:47 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:57:15 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 03:48:41 UTC+1, Mark D. wrote:
    On Sep 27, 2023 at 1:08:34 PM CDT, "Steve Mc" <steve...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.
    Weren't Brown-Eyed Handsome Man and Too Much Monkey Business flip sides? If
    so, that would be a much more interesting one to discuss, and, imo, a much better record.

    Too Much Monkey Business
    Brown Eyed Handsome Man

    Both 10's of course

    Afraid not.

    Monkey - 9
    Brown - 8

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Wed Sep 27 23:03:40 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:48:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:

    Sorry but the bare minimum requirement is that you be female to rock my world

    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Sep 27 23:19:58 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:48:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:

    Sorry but the bare minimum requirement is that you be female to rock my world
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)

    No

    And I'll pass on any further discussion of this subject if you don't mind. Thanks!

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 10:34:33 2023
    On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 23:02:47 -0700 (PDT), Bruce <SavoyBG@aol.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:57:15?AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 03:48:41 UTC+1, Mark D. wrote:
    On Sep 27, 2023 at 1:08:34 PM CDT, "Steve Mc" <steve...@sbcglobal.net>
    wrote:
    I'd have to go with Sweet Little Sixteen.
    Weren't Brown-Eyed Handsome Man and Too Much Monkey Business flip sides? If
    so, that would be a much more interesting one to discuss, and, imo, a much >> > better record.

    Too Much Monkey Business
    Brown Eyed Handsome Man

    Both 10's of course

    Afraid not.

    Monkey - 9
    Brown - 8

    I think Roger 'The Avenger' Ford will let you get away with these
    scores :)

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Thu Sep 28 07:36:07 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 1:48:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:

    Sorry but the bare minimum requirement is that you be female to rock my world
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No

    Yeah, I'm with you.

    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender, I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.

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  • From Bob Roman@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Sep 28 14:31:39 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No
    Yeah, I'm with you.
    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender,
    I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.

    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.

    --
    BR

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Bob Roman on Thu Sep 28 22:24:30 2023
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 22:31:41 UTC+1, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No
    Yeah, I'm with you.
    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender,
    I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.
    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.

    I think J.K. Rowling summed all this up best

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bob Roman on Fri Sep 29 17:00:23 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No
    Yeah, I'm with you.
    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender,
    I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.
    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.

    So, you would have sex with a trans woman like Caitlyn Jenner?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bob Roman on Fri Sep 29 17:03:56 2023
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No
    Yeah, I'm with you.
    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender,
    I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.
    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.

    There are loads of biological women I would never want to have sex with. But I CERTAINLY would never want to have sex with ANYONE who was born male, no matter what they are now.

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Sep 30 00:27:11 2023
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 01:03:57 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No
    Yeah, I'm with you.

    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender, I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.

    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.

    There are loads of biological women I would never want to have sex with. But I CERTAINLY would never want to have sex with ANYONE who was born male, no matter what they are now.

    Spot on!!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Sat Sep 30 07:59:10 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:27:12 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 01:03:57 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No
    Yeah, I'm with you.

    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender,
    I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.

    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.

    There are loads of biological women I would never want to have sex with. But I CERTAINLY would never want to have sex with ANYONE who was born male, no matter what they are now.
    Spot on!!


    What happened to "And I'll pass on any further discussion of this subject if you don't mind. Thanks!"

    That's 2 more comments you've made now since that statement!

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Sep 30 12:19:20 2023
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 15:59:11 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:27:12 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 01:03:57 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No
    Yeah, I'm with you.

    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender,
    I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.

    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.

    There are loads of biological women I would never want to have sex with. But I CERTAINLY would never want to have sex with ANYONE who was born male, no matter what they are now.
    Spot on!!
    What happened to "And I'll pass on any further discussion of this subject if you don't mind. Thanks!"

    That's 2 more comments you've made now since that statement!

    I changed my mind

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Sat Sep 30 12:25:07 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:19:22 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 15:59:11 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:27:12 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 01:03:57 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No
    Yeah, I'm with you.

    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender,
    I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.

    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.

    There are loads of biological women I would never want to have sex with. But I CERTAINLY would never want to have sex with ANYONE who was born male, no matter what they are now.
    Spot on!!
    What happened to "And I'll pass on any further discussion of this subject if you don't mind. Thanks!"

    That's 2 more comments you've made now since that statement!

    I changed my mind

    LOL

    I noticed Bob has not answered yet on whether or not he was to lay some pipe with Caitlyn.

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  • From Bob Roman@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Sep 30 17:48:43 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:00:24 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.
    So, you would have sex with a trans woman like Caitlyn Jenner?

    Too Republican. But I'm glad you called her a woman.

    --
    BR

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bob Roman on Sat Sep 30 17:57:30 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 8:48:45 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:00:24 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.
    So, you would have sex with a trans woman like Caitlyn Jenner?
    Too Republican. But I'm glad you called her a woman.

    How about LaVerne Cox, or Dylan Mulvaney?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 30 22:07:52 2023
    Here's Bob's new girlfriend.

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS0MJP9JAUx09HeEHg78JMzLZ9BmJibYUQNYKkPx8njpTxGPXUxWtGOV1lztxc17EPzWy0&usqp=CAU

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Sat Sep 30 23:01:24 2023
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 1:53:40 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 20:25:08 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:19:22 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 15:59:11 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:27:12 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 01:03:57 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No
    Yeah, I'm with you.

    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender,
    I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.

    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.

    There are loads of biological women I would never want to have sex with. But I CERTAINLY would never want to have sex with ANYONE who was born male, no matter what they are now.
    Spot on!!
    What happened to "And I'll pass on any further discussion of this subject if you don't mind. Thanks!"

    That's 2 more comments you've made now since that statement!

    I changed my mind
    LOL

    I figured further discussion might lead to to an tiresome aeon-long argument since nearly all "left leaning" folk over here embrace surgically created "women" as true women. I have nothing against these folk personally but no way are they real women

    Well, I am a leftist on most issues, but not this one. You are what the chromosomes say you are, except in some freak birth defect issue like a woman that we saw a report about recently who has a vagina, but also has small testicles that never descended,
    and has the chromosomes of a man.

    And I say to all the heterosexual left leaners who say that trans people are now the opposite gender that they were born with, would you have that trans person as your spouse, or significant other.

    There's also the shit where a tran woman is attracted to women, or a trans man is attracted to men. Or a trans person who is attracted to both. All of that shit is too weird for me.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Sep 30 22:53:39 2023
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 20:25:08 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:19:22 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 15:59:11 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:27:12 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 01:03:57 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No
    Yeah, I'm with you.

    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender,
    I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.

    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.

    There are loads of biological women I would never want to have sex with. But I CERTAINLY would never want to have sex with ANYONE who was born male, no matter what they are now.
    Spot on!!
    What happened to "And I'll pass on any further discussion of this subject if you don't mind. Thanks!"

    That's 2 more comments you've made now since that statement!

    I changed my mind
    LOL

    I figured further discussion might lead to to an tiresome aeon-long argument since nearly all "left leaning" folk over here embrace surgically created "women" as true women. I have nothing against these folk personally but no way are they real women

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat Sep 30 23:13:34 2023
    On Sunday, 1 October 2023 at 07:01:27 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 1:53:40 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 20:25:08 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:19:22 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 15:59:11 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:27:12 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 01:03:57 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No
    Yeah, I'm with you.

    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender,
    I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.

    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.

    There are loads of biological women I would never want to have sex with. But I CERTAINLY would never want to have sex with ANYONE who was born male, no matter what they are now.
    Spot on!!
    What happened to "And I'll pass on any further discussion of this subject if you don't mind. Thanks!"

    That's 2 more comments you've made now since that statement!

    I changed my mind
    LOL

    I figured further discussion might lead to to an tiresome aeon-long argument since nearly all "left leaning" folk over here embrace surgically created "women" as true women. I have nothing against these folk personally but no way are they real women
    Well, I am a leftist on most issues, but not this one. You are what the chromosomes say you are, except in some freak birth defect issue like a woman that we saw a report about recently who has a vagina, but also has small testicles that never
    descended, and has the chromosomes of a man.

    And I say to all the heterosexual left leaners who say that trans people are now the opposite gender that they were born with, would you have that trans person as your spouse, or significant other.

    There's also the shit where a tran woman is attracted to women, or a trans man is attracted to men. Or a trans person who is attracted to both. All of that shit is too weird for me.

    Jeez we actally AGREE on something!! Who said the age of miracles is past? :-)

    BTW I meant to ask you.....what was with that note you mailed me the other day with just "HUH?" on it?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Sun Oct 1 07:12:14 2023
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 2:13:36 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Sunday, 1 October 2023 at 07:01:27 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 1:53:40 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 20:25:08 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:19:22 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 15:59:11 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:27:12 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 01:03:57 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 10:36:09 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:19:59 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
    On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 07:03:42 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    Would you date a trans woman? (former man after the surgery)
    No
    Yeah, I'm with you.

    When people claim that a tranny is now a member of the opposite gender,
    I like to give then this question to see if they really believe that shit.

    Today I learned, a woman is apparently only a woman if Bruce wants to fuck her.

    There are loads of biological women I would never want to have sex with. But I CERTAINLY would never want to have sex with ANYONE who was born male, no matter what they are now.
    Spot on!!
    What happened to "And I'll pass on any further discussion of this subject if you don't mind. Thanks!"

    That's 2 more comments you've made now since that statement!

    I changed my mind
    LOL

    I figured further discussion might lead to to an tiresome aeon-long argument since nearly all "left leaning" folk over here embrace surgically created "women" as true women. I have nothing against these folk personally but no way are they real
    women
    Well, I am a leftist on most issues, but not this one. You are what the chromosomes say you are, except in some freak birth defect issue like a woman that we saw a report about recently who has a vagina, but also has small testicles that never
    descended, and has the chromosomes of a man.

    And I say to all the heterosexual left leaners who say that trans people are now the opposite gender that they were born with, would you have that trans person as your spouse, or significant other.

    There's also the shit where a tran woman is attracted to women, or a trans man is attracted to men. Or a trans person who is attracted to both. All of that shit is too weird for me.
    Jeez we actally AGREE on something!! Who said the age of miracles is past? :-)

    BTW I meant to ask you.....what was with that note you mailed me the other day with just "HUH?" on it?

    I sent that before I saw the email that you were answering.

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  • From Bob Roman@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Oct 1 08:23:40 2023
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 2:01:27 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    And I say to all the heterosexual left leaners who say that trans people
    are now the opposite gender that they were born with, would you have
    that trans person as your spouse, or significant other.

    This is the equivalent of saying that curling, or skeet shooting, or nascar, is not a sport because you personally do not want to watch it.
    Your desires do not enter into the criteria.

    --
    BR

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bob Roman on Sun Oct 1 10:05:59 2023
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 11:23:42 AM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 2:01:27 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    And I say to all the heterosexual left leaners who say that trans people are now the opposite gender that they were born with, would you have
    that trans person as your spouse, or significant other.
    This is the equivalent of saying that curling, or skeet shooting, or nascar, is not a sport because you personally do not want to watch it.

    What a horrible analogy.

    Your desires do not enter into the criteria.

    Of course not, and neither do the desires of the people who are trans. The only thing that enters is science. Biologically female individuals have two X chromosomes (XX) while those who are biologically male have one X and one Y chromosome (XY). No
    amount of surgery or desires or clothing or makeup or wigs or anything else can change this. No trans woman menstruates and can get pregnant and bear a child. And no trans man can fertilize a woman's egg.

    People can live their lives however they want in this regard, but living as a different gender does not make you an actual member of that gender. As far as bathrooms, I don't care about that at all. Use whatever public bathroom you want.

    No skin dye or surgery or makeup or anything else can change a person's biological race either. Johnny Otis was still white, no matter how much he lived a black lifestyle among black people.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bob Roman on Sun Oct 1 18:46:17 2023
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 11:23:42 AM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 2:01:27 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    And I say to all the heterosexual left leaners who say that trans people are now the opposite gender that they were born with, would you have
    that trans person as your spouse, or significant other.
    This is the equivalent of saying that curling, or skeet shooting, or nascar, is not a sport because you personally do not want to watch it.
    Your desires do not enter into the criteria.

    Let me ask you, Bob. If Caitlyn Jenner gets prostate cancer would you consider that a miracle, a "woman" that has a prostate gland? Or would it just be another 74 year old guy who gets prostate cancer?

    If you were "her" doctor, would you dismiss her PSA test going real high and just consider it some mistake in the lab, because a "woman" can't get prostate cancer?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bob Roman@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Oct 1 21:09:14 2023
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:46:19 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Let me ask you, Bob. If Caitlyn Jenner gets prostate cancer would
    you consider that a miracle, a "woman" that has a prostate gland?
    Or would it just be another 74 year old guy who gets prostate cancer?

    I would suggest you look up the difference between sex and gender.

    --
    BR

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bob Roman on Sun Oct 1 21:20:49 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 12:09:15 AM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:46:19 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Let me ask you, Bob. If Caitlyn Jenner gets prostate cancer would
    you consider that a miracle, a "woman" that has a prostate gland?
    Or would it just be another 74 year old guy who gets prostate cancer?
    I would suggest you look up the difference between sex and gender.

    So your contention is that gender (the person's desires) is what decides male or female, man or woman, rather than sex (biological facts).

    If my desires don't determine it, than neither do the desires of the person in question. You're not a man or a woman simply because you want to be. If a man wants to live as a woman, or a woman wants to live as a man, no problem. But living as the
    opposite of your biological sex does not make you that opposite. And just because the dictionary definition of gender has been changed in recent years does not make it so any more than the modern dictionary definition of "cover" makes a new version of a
    40 year old song a "cover."

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Oct 1 21:32:50 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 12:29:10 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Now if you want to take your gender shit and find another term for people who live a life that is the opposite of their biological sex, you can do that.

    I would suggest dude and chick.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bob Roman on Sun Oct 1 21:29:09 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 12:09:15 AM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:46:19 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Let me ask you, Bob. If Caitlyn Jenner gets prostate cancer would
    you consider that a miracle, a "woman" that has a prostate gland?
    Or would it just be another 74 year old guy who gets prostate cancer?

    I would suggest you look up the difference between sex and gender.

    I would suggest you look up "man" and "woman."

    Man - an adult male human being.
    Woman - an adult female human being.

    Which then leads us to look up male and female.

    Male - a male person : a man or a boy. b. : an individual of the sex that is typically capable of producing small, usually motile gametes (such as sperm or spermatozoa) which fertilize the eggs of a female.

    Female - of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes.

    Nothing about gender or how a person lives culturally has anything to do with the definition of a man or a woman.

    Now if you want to take your gender shit and find another term for people who live a life that is the opposite of their biological sex, you can do that. I'm sorry, but you can't use man or woman. Those are already defined in detail which would preclude
    either of them from being used in the way that want to use them.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Oct 1 21:38:19 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 12:32:52 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 12:29:10 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Now if you want to take your gender shit and find another term for people who live a life that is the opposite of their biological sex, you can do that.

    I would suggest dude and chick.

    Or you could just say "Trans Man" and "Trans Woman" which would be like "Pretend Man" and "Pretend Woman" or like "Fake Man" and "Fake Woman."

    I wonder how Bob would handle it if he met a "woman" and went out with "her" and after a while this "woman" sucks Bob off. Bob then reaches inside "her" pants and finds a big hard cock. Is Bob gonna continue to date "her?" What would Bob do with that
    cock I wonder?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Oct 2 13:06:14 2023
    On 10/2/2023 12:20 AM, Bruce wrote:
    If a man wants to live as a woman, or a woman wants to live as a man, no problem.
    -----------
    As long as they have a sign around their neck saying "Don't try to have
    sex with me?"

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Oct 2 14:15:23 2023
    On 10/2/2023 12:38 AM, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 12:32:52 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 12:29:10 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Now if you want to take your gender shit and find another term for people who live a life that is the opposite of their biological sex, you can do that.

    I would suggest dude and chick.

    Or you could just say "Trans Man" and "Trans Woman" which would be like "Pretend Man" and "Pretend Woman" or like "Fake Man" and "Fake Woman."

    I wonder how Bob would handle it if he met a "woman" and went out with "her" and after a while this "woman" sucks Bob off. Bob then reaches inside "her" pants and finds a big hard cock. Is Bob gonna continue to date "her?" What would Bob do with that
    cock I wonder?
    ----------

    Let's get back to that lovely young woman in Texas who was born with a
    vagina but XY chromosomes. Intersex people do exist, however minuscule
    their numbers. Is she a woman or not?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to DianeE on Mon Oct 2 11:23:28 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:06:16 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
    On 10/2/2023 12:20 AM, Bruce wrote:
    If a man wants to live as a woman, or a woman wants to live as a man, no problem.
    -----------
    As long as they have a sign around their neck saying "Don't try to have
    sex with me?"

    Since you brought this up, do you think that a trans man or trans woman has an obligation to let their potential sexual partners know beforehand that they used to be of the opposite sex that they now appear to be?

    Or do they just let that partner discover it the first time thy have sex. The situation I described with Bob discovering a cock in the "woman's" past after receiving a blow job from "her" actually happened to a guy I know. He was not interested in "her"
    anymore after that. In fact, this person he was with was deathly afraid that the guy I know was gonna beat them up, but instead he just asked them why they hid what they were, and they said "Because I didn't think you would go with me if you knew."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to DianeE on Mon Oct 2 11:19:01 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 2:15:25 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
    On 10/2/2023 12:38 AM, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 12:32:52 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 12:29:10 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Now if you want to take your gender shit and find another term for people who live a life that is the opposite of their biological sex, you can do that.

    I would suggest dude and chick.

    Or you could just say "Trans Man" and "Trans Woman" which would be like "Pretend Man" and "Pretend Woman" or like "Fake Man" and "Fake Woman."

    I wonder how Bob would handle it if he met a "woman" and went out with "her" and after a while this "woman" sucks Bob off. Bob then reaches inside "her" pants and finds a big hard cock. Is Bob gonna continue to date "her?" What would Bob do with that
    cock I wonder?
    ----------

    Let's get back to that lovely young woman in Texas who was born with a vagina but XY chromosomes. Intersex people do exist, however minuscule
    their numbers. Is she a woman or not?

    I've already mentioned her and said that their are crazy birth defect cases like that. I would consider her a woman, yes.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Oct 2 15:57:40 2023
    On 10/2/2023 2:23 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:06:16 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
    On 10/2/2023 12:20 AM, Bruce wrote:
    If a man wants to live as a woman, or a woman wants to live as a man, no problem.
    -----------
    As long as they have a sign around their neck saying "Don't try to have
    sex with me?"

    Since you brought this up, do you think that a trans man or trans woman has an obligation to let their potential sexual partners know beforehand that they used to be of the opposite sex that they now appear to be?

    Or do they just let that partner discover it the first time thy have sex. The situation I described with Bob discovering a cock in the "woman's" past after receiving a blow job from "her" actually happened to a guy I know. He was not interested in "her"
    anymore after that. In fact, this person he was with was deathly afraid that the guy I know was gonna beat them up, but instead he just asked them why they hid what they were, and they said "Because I didn't think you would go with me if you knew."
    --------
    If he enjoyed the blow job, what the hell difference did it make who
    delivered it? Or was it a question of payment?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to DianeE on Mon Oct 2 17:21:51 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 3:57:43 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
    On 10/2/2023 2:23 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:06:16 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
    On 10/2/2023 12:20 AM, Bruce wrote:
    If a man wants to live as a woman, or a woman wants to live as a man, no problem.
    -----------
    As long as they have a sign around their neck saying "Don't try to have >> sex with me?"

    Since you brought this up, do you think that a trans man or trans woman has an obligation to let their potential sexual partners know beforehand that they used to be of the opposite sex that they now appear to be?

    Or do they just let that partner discover it the first time thy have sex. The situation I described with Bob discovering a cock in the "woman's" past after receiving a blow job from "her" actually happened to a guy I know. He was not interested in "
    her" anymore after that. In fact, this person he was with was deathly afraid that the guy I know was gonna beat them up, but instead he just asked them why they hid what they were, and they said "Because I didn't think you would go with me if you knew."
    --------
    If he enjoyed the blow job, what the hell difference did it make who delivered it? Or was it a question of payment?

    No payment involved, he just wasn't interested anymore when he discovered the person was trans, I guess with tits and a cock. There's more to sex than just the physical part of it. This guy would never be turned on again knowing what's in the other
    person's pants. And even if the cock was cut off and some sort of vagina was put in its place, this guy would STILL not be interested, and neither would I. Just knowing the other person's history would ruin it.

    You should understand this as you'd never have sex with someone who you knew was a Trump supporter, no matter how much the physical attraction was. The Trump part would ruin it for you, and the "Used to be a man" part would ruin it for me, Roger and this
    other guy I know.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Oct 2 23:26:05 2023
    On 10/2/2023 8:21 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 3:57:43 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
    On 10/2/2023 2:23 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:06:16 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
    On 10/2/2023 12:20 AM, Bruce wrote:
    If a man wants to live as a woman, or a woman wants to live as a man, no problem.
    -----------
    As long as they have a sign around their neck saying "Don't try to have >>>> sex with me?"

    Since you brought this up, do you think that a trans man or trans woman has an obligation to let their potential sexual partners know beforehand that they used to be of the opposite sex that they now appear to be?

    Or do they just let that partner discover it the first time thy have sex. The situation I described with Bob discovering a cock in the "woman's" past after receiving a blow job from "her" actually happened to a guy I know. He was not interested in "
    her" anymore after that. In fact, this person he was with was deathly afraid that the guy I know was gonna beat them up, but instead he just asked them why they hid what they were, and they said "Because I didn't think you would go with me if you knew."
    --------
    If he enjoyed the blow job, what the hell difference did it make who
    delivered it? Or was it a question of payment?

    No payment involved, he just wasn't interested anymore when he discovered the person was trans, I guess with tits and a cock. There's more to sex than just the physical part of it. This guy would never be turned on again knowing what's in the other
    person's pants. And even if the cock was cut off and some sort of vagina was put in its place, this guy would STILL not be interested, and neither would I. Just knowing the other person's history would ruin it.

    You should understand this as you'd never have sex with someone who you knew was a Trump supporter, no matter how much the physical attraction was. The Trump part would ruin it for you, and the "Used to be a man" part would ruin it for me, Roger and
    this other guy I know.
    -------------

    I say we kick the can down the road and leave this problem for the next generation to solve.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Oct 3 07:43:35 2023
    On Tuesday, 3 October 2023 at 01:21:52 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 3:57:43 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
    On 10/2/2023 2:23 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:06:16 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
    On 10/2/2023 12:20 AM, Bruce wrote:
    If a man wants to live as a woman, or a woman wants to live as a man, no problem.
    -----------
    As long as they have a sign around their neck saying "Don't try to have >> sex with me?"

    Since you brought this up, do you think that a trans man or trans woman has an obligation to let their potential sexual partners know beforehand that they used to be of the opposite sex that they now appear to be?

    Or do they just let that partner discover it the first time thy have sex. The situation I described with Bob discovering a cock in the "woman's" past after receiving a blow job from "her" actually happened to a guy I know. He was not interested in "
    her" anymore after that. In fact, this person he was with was deathly afraid that the guy I know was gonna beat them up, but instead he just asked them why they hid what they were, and they said "Because I didn't think you would go with me if you knew."
    --------
    If he enjoyed the blow job, what the hell difference did it make who delivered it? Or was it a question of payment?
    No payment involved, he just wasn't interested anymore when he discovered the person was trans, I guess with tits and a cock. There's more to sex than just the physical part of it. This guy would never be turned on again knowing what's in the other
    person's pants. And even if the cock was cut off and some sort of vagina was put in its place, this guy would STILL not be interested, and neither would I. Just knowing the other person's history would ruin it.

    You should understand this as you'd never have sex with someone who you knew was a Trump supporter, no matter how much the physical attraction was. The Trump part would ruin it for you, and the "Used to be a man" part would ruin it for me, Roger and
    this other guy I know.

    I firmly believe that prior knowledge of the "used to be a man" thing would totally forbid even the slightest sexual interaction with the he/she/it concerned for the overwhelmingly vast majority of normal heterosexual males

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Oct 3 07:57:18 2023
    On Monday, 2 October 2023 at 19:23:29 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:06:16 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
    On 10/2/2023 12:20 AM, Bruce wrote:
    If a man wants to live as a woman, or a woman wants to live as a man, no problem.
    -----------
    As long as they have a sign around their neck saying "Don't try to have sex with me?"
    Since you brought this up, do you think that a trans man or trans woman has an obligation to let their potential sexual partners know beforehand that they used to be of the opposite sex that they now appear to be?

    Or do they just let that partner discover it the first time thy have sex. The situation I described with Bob discovering a cock in the "woman's" past after receiving a blow job from "her" actually happened to a guy I know. He was not interested in "her"
    anymore after that. In fact, this person he was with was deathly afraid that the guy I know was gonna beat them up, but instead he just asked them why they hid what they were, and they said "Because I didn't think you would go with me if you knew."

    This scenario actually happened to a good friend of mine who spent some time in NYC years ago when he ran the marathon there. On his last night there he was in a downtown bar and was approached by this gorgeous looking girl. He escorted her back to her
    place,one thing led to another and they wound up between the sheets. Where he made the horrible discovery that "she" was still waiting for surgery and "she" made the even worse discovery that the guy was a trained boxer.

    Luckily the next day he was on a Heathrow-bound plane

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Tue Oct 3 08:16:00 2023
    On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:57:20 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:

    This scenario actually happened to a good friend of mine who spent some time in NYC years ago when he ran the marathon there. On his last night there he was in a downtown bar and was approached by this gorgeous looking girl. He escorted her back to her
    place,one thing led to another and they wound up between the sheets. Where he made the horrible discovery that "she" was still waiting for surgery and "she" made the even worse discovery that the guy was a trained boxer.

    Luckily the next day he was on a Heathrow-bound plane

    Are you saying he did beat "her" up?

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Oct 3 08:22:19 2023
    On Tuesday, 3 October 2023 at 16:16:02 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:57:20 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:

    This scenario actually happened to a good friend of mine who spent some time in NYC years ago when he ran the marathon there. On his last night there he was in a downtown bar and was approached by this gorgeous looking girl. He escorted her back to
    her place,one thing led to another and they wound up between the sheets. Where he made the horrible discovery that "she" was still waiting for surgery and "she" made the even worse discovery that the guy was a trained boxer.

    Luckily the next day he was on a Heathrow-bound plane
    Are you saying he did beat "her" up?

    Let's just say he made his feelings known very well

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  • From Mark D.@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 15:49:23 2023
    On Oct 3, 2023 at 9:57:18 AM CDT, "Roger Ford" <mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    On Monday, 2 October 2023 at 19:23:29 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:06:16 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
    On 10/2/2023 12:20 AM, Bruce wrote:
    If a man wants to live as a woman, or a woman wants to live as a man, no >>>> problem.
    -----------
    As long as they have a sign around their neck saying "Don't try to have
    sex with me?"
    Since you brought this up, do you think that a trans man or trans woman has >> an obligation to let their potential sexual partners know beforehand that
    they used to be of the opposite sex that they now appear to be?

    Or do they just let that partner discover it the first time thy have sex. The
    situation I described with Bob discovering a cock in the "woman's" past after
    receiving a blow job from "her" actually happened to a guy I know. He was not
    interested in "her" anymore after that. In fact, this person he was with was >> deathly afraid that the guy I know was gonna beat them up, but instead he
    just asked them why they hid what they were, and they said "Because I didn't >> think you would go with me if you knew."

    This scenario actually happened to a good friend of mine who spent some time in NYC years ago when he ran the marathon there. On his last night there he was in a downtown bar and was approached by this gorgeous looking girl. He escorted her back to her place,one thing led to another and they wound up between the sheets. Where he made the horrible discovery that "she" was still waiting for surgery and "she" made the even worse discovery that the guy was a
    trained boxer.

    Luckily the next day he was on a Heathrow-bound plane

    Has he never heard the Kinks' "Lola"?

    --md

    remove "xx" for email

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Mark D. on Tue Oct 3 09:13:14 2023
    On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 11:49:36 AM UTC-4, Mark D. wrote:

    Has he never heard the Kinks' "Lola"?

    About 5-10 years ago what's left of the doo wop crowd around here were going once a week to a bar in Hackensack where trans women and transvestites and cross dressers hang out because they would have guest collectors playing group records all night long.
    One night Milton Love was there and he was dancing with a few "women," completely unaware that they were actually men, or at least formerly men.

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  • From Steve Mc@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 09:19:51 2023
    Perhaps this could be the last word on this discussion....

    A few years ago I received an email containing a picture of Caitlin
    Jenner with the words:

    " whoever doesn't think I'm feminine enough can suck my dick".


    --
    Steve Mc

    DNA to SBC to respond

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  • From Roger Ford@21:1/5 to Steve Mc on Tue Oct 3 13:52:32 2023
    On Tuesday, 3 October 2023 at 17:19:54 UTC+1, Steve Mc wrote:
    Perhaps this could be the last word on this discussion....

    Hang about!

    Nobody's yet mentioned the exact reverse of the subject under discussion here

    That lucky group that have had phalloplasty surgery

    (Which means exactly what you think it does!)

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  • From Bob Roman@21:1/5 to Roger Ford on Tue Oct 3 19:12:53 2023
    On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 4:52:36 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:

    Hang about!
    Nobody's yet mentioned the exact reverse of the subject under discussion here
    That lucky group that have had phalloplasty surgery
    (Which means exactly what you think it does!)

    Yes, it does match exactly.
    And following Bruce' logic, if he does NOT want to fuck them it proves they have successfully become men.

    --
    BR

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bob Roman on Tue Oct 3 19:22:57 2023
    On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:12:55 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 4:52:36 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:

    Hang about!
    Nobody's yet mentioned the exact reverse of the subject under discussion here
    That lucky group that have had phalloplasty surgery
    (Which means exactly what you think it does!)
    Yes, it does match exactly.

    And following Bruce' logic, if he does NOT want to fuck them it proves they have successfully become men.

    Still waiting to hear what you're gonna do with that cock.

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  • From Bob Roman@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Oct 4 17:53:38 2023
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 8:21:52 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Just knowing the other person's history would ruin it.

    History? Shouldn't your rule be, All that matters is what is coming out of the groin area

    --
    BR

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Bob Roman on Wed Oct 4 18:08:18 2023
    On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 8:53:39 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 8:21:52 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

    Just knowing the other person's history would ruin it.

    History? Shouldn't your rule be, All that matters is what is coming out of the groin area

    Nope. That's only for music.

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