• TEN FAVE OBSCURITIES FROM...1963

    From Roger@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 22 06:08:51 2024
    10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

    Today......from 1963

    MARVA ALLEN – HE’S GONE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hBeT8UVVpQ

    Excellent soulful release fittingly on the…um…Excello label by this mysterious lady whom I have not much other info on (save that she also
    had a fine unreleased item “Here Comes The Night Owl” too)

    Here’s how “He’s Gone” is definitely He’s Here where my Top Femme Records list for 1963 is concerned

    1. Hello Stranger Barbara Lewis
    2. Heat Wave Martha & The Vandellas
    3. That’s How Heartaches Are Made Baby Washington
    4. The Love Of My Man Theola Kilgore
    5. Cry To Me Betty Harris
    6. Be My Baby Ronettes
    7. Sleigh Ride Ronettes
    8. Da Doo Ron Ron Crystals
    9. You’re No Good Betty Everett
    10. Ruler Of My Heart Irma Thomas
    11. Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) Darlene Love
    12. He’s Gone Marva Allen

    JIMMY ANDERSON – I’M A KING BEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhKXuvyWkA4

    Staying with Excello here’s a fine 1963 revival of the old Slim Harpo classic.

    Here’s what “Cash Box” had to say about it (February 2 1963) **************************************************************************************
    JIMMY ANDERSON (Excello 2227) (B-b) “I’M A KING BEE”
    (2:21) [Excellorec BMI — Moore]Here’s a potent shufflin’ tradition -oriented r&b lament rendered in a feelingful, sincere fashion by
    Jimmy Anderson. Side has enough good things in it to create a stir. **************************************************************************************

    THE CHANTS - I COULD WRITE A BOOK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwQRCzVXa4g

    Look Ma!! Your boy’s included a British record here!!

    A real honest-to-God B-R-I-T-I-S-H record!!!!

    And by a five member strong young black vocal group from the poor
    Toxteth district of Liverpool singing a doowop-ish version of one of my favorite Broadway show tunes (those with lonnnnnnnng memories here might
    recall a post I did years ago now “Give My Regards To Broadway” where I named my favorite versions of famous old show tunes. And in there my
    pick for Rodgers & Hart’s “I Could Write A Book” - from the 1940
    Broadway show “Pal Joey” -was this version by The Chants)

    Recorded for Pye label (and leased to Cameo in US) it was released in
    December 1963 and was the very first record played on the special
    edition of the hit BBC-TV show “Juke Box Jury” that was filmed on
    December 7th 1963.

    Footage of the actual show used to be on YT but all we have today is
    this
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmS9G_EpcNQ

    Why “special”? ‘Twas because on this particular show the four-man panel whose mission was to guess whether the records played to them would be “hits” or “misses” with the record buying public) consisted of the four Beatles who had no hesitation in pronouncing this song by fellow
    Liverpudlians a resounding “HIT”
    (@ 2:40 in YT clip above)

    Sadly in reality it wasn’t---but it made enough impression on this
    writer to make his 1963 favorites list!

    Here’s a nice rundown on The Chants by Merseybeat’s own Bill Harry https://sixtiescity.net/Mbeat/mbfilms116.htm

    THE ENCHANTERS – THE DAY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhufZ0-jms0

    From “CHANTS” to “ENCHANTERS” in one easy move.......

    Hailing from Detroit this group comprised Alton “Bart” Hollowell (lead) Gerald Hollowell (tenor) Ulysses Hollowell (tenor) Tommy Wade (tenor)
    and Jack Thomas (baritone).

    Their debut record “True Love Gone” on Mercer label in 1956 attracted
    the attention of Coral records who signed them to the label. A series of further good releases followed including my favorite by them---the 1957 Christmas classic “Mambo Santa Mambo”

    Coral revived “True Love Gone” on a re-release in 1963---this time
    paired with the previously unissued “The Day” a lovely r&b ballad much
    too good to be left languishing in the vaults

    GOOD TIME CHARLIE – WATCH THAT STUFF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8aVZZjJXow

    Derivative but ultra catchy r&b stomper on Galaxy that I fondly remember getting good play at the smoky little Scene r&b club in London that
    yours truly frequented in those days and where I first heard many of the records that have been so very good to me and stayed with me all my
    life

    BUNKER HILL – THE GIRL CAN’T DANCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g8rG6WVJvk

    Backed by Link Wray & his then current lineup of Raymen here is Bunker
    Hill doing his level best to imitate a demented Little Richard-on-speed
    with his followup (but one) on Mala label to his super-raucous 1962
    “Hide And Go Seek” hit.

    Born David Walker in Washington D.C he was a professional boxer as a
    young man and later went on to lead the famous gospel group The Mighty
    Clouds Of Joy.

    I’ve seen boots around on this one which is hardly surprising when the original 45rpm commands three figure sums on both sides of the puddle

    GREGORY HOWARD – WHEN IN LOVE (DO AS LOVERS DO) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xin0eHCfxLo

    One of the best ever Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers ripoffs is to be
    found on the staid old Kapp label as late as 1963---and one that became
    really famous when it was booted on the Gee label under the name of “The Gee-Tones”

    I sold an original copy of this on eBay for a three-figure sum two years
    ago

    JEWELL & THE RUBIES - KIDNAPPER
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQNR0pUCIoM

    Long time beach music favorite in the USA (and club fave here in UK too)
    by a group of students from Ville Platte,Louisiana led by local high
    school band director Jewell Douglas.

    This highly catchy “amateur” effort sold well enough when released by
    the small local La Louisianne outfit to get picked up for national
    distribution by the big ABC-Paramount label

    THE STARGLOWS – LET’S BE LOVERS
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Fyqb_WnAI

    Nice one-off effort by The Starglows vocal group (containing
    ex-Flamingos Terry Johnson and Nate Nelson)---so unsurprising that the recording often used to be mistaken as a late unissued Flamingos
    recording.

    It was recorded for Atco following a deal set up by Joe Rock manager of
    The Skyliners of “Since I Don’t Have You” fame whose then current label was the very same Atco

    JAY WIGGINS – SAD GIRL
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB2E99D6jl8

    “Sad Girl” was the first release by this super soul singer from
    Washington DC who really should have gone on to a long and successful
    recording career

    Released on the small IPG (Independent Production Group) label and
    popular enough to spawn several followup releases on IPG and Solid
    labels before Amy reissued “Sad Girl” in 1966.

    His career was derailed later in the 60’s when he was jailed for
    refusing the draft
    for Vietnam (reason given was his then recent conversion to Islam)

    Here’s a nice piece on him by Sir Shambling :- https://www.sirshambling.com/artists_2012/W/jay_wiggins/index.php

    And of course the “Sad Girl” song finally crashed the Billboard Top 50
    and went high on their r&b chart in 1969 in the excellent Intruders
    version then charted again in 1982 for GQ

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Wed May 22 16:24:01 2024
    Roger wrote:

    10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

    Today......from 1963

    MARVA ALLEN – HE’S GONE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hBeT8UVVpQ

    My friend says he likes the flip better.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkz1YKmD4wA

    I'm with you, "He's Gone" is the slightly side. But the flip seems to be
    a New Orleans sound. Is she from there?

    JIMMY ANDERSON – I’M A KING BEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhKXuvyWkA4

    It's decent, but I don't think it works as a Jimmy Reed sound.

    THE CHANTS - I COULD WRITE A BOOK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwQRCzVXa4g

    PEW! That really stinks, and they are black in skin color only.

    THE ENCHANTERS – THE DAY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhufZ0-jms0

    Like the group's 50s records a lot, but I can do without this one with
    that organ. This seems to be where you and I really part company, 1963.
    I fully embrace the Beatles and other rock bands from the UK this year
    and you don't.

    GOOD TIME CHARLIE – WATCH THAT STUFF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8aVZZjJXow

    Third rate Ray Charles imitation. It's just okay IMO, a 4. Not keeping
    an MP3.

    BUNKER HILL – THE GIRL CAN’T DANCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g8rG6WVJvk

    Frantic screamer, a 7.

    GREGORY HOWARD – WHEN IN LOVE (DO AS LOVERS DO) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xin0eHCfxLo

    Good doo wop, Lymon started it, but this guy sounds more like one of the
    Lymon copiers like the guy from the Schoolboys or the guy from the
    Students.

    JEWELL & THE RUBIES - KIDNAPPER
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQNR0pUCIoM

    Best record on this list, an 8. Good info on the group.

    THE STARGLOWS – LET’S BE LOVERS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Fyqb_WnAI

    Yes, good effort that Terry and Nate got to sound just like their former
    group. A high 6 for me, not a HUGE Fan of the Flamingos on End. Too
    gimmicky and popish.

    JAY WIGGINS – SAD GIRL
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB2E99D6jl8

    Cult classic around here, but just a 6 for me.


    I'll get to my own 10 later, very busy day, I have a few hundred new
    items to list on Discogs.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 23 02:33:59 2024
    Okay, taking a break from listing things. Here are 10 obscurities from
    1963 that I really like.

    4 ¦ Second Line ¦ Huey & Curley
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGSJYOH_w6U

    I see 1962 on this in some places, and Discogs has it as 1964. It's
    basically "Rockin' Pneumonia" part 5 or so, I lost count.

    32 ¦ I'll See It Through ¦ Jimmy McCracklin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdEo61Kza9Q

    This guy has loads of lesser known great records.

    33 ¦ Madness is Gladness ¦ Prince Buster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZC6Ot1MLP0

    I'm sure this is very well known to a certain crowd, but I did not know
    that he did this first (before Madness) until this century.

    57 ¦ My Baby's Sweet ¦ Homesick James https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrp3eVWhnOE

    Very cool blues record.

    64 ¦ Rattlesnake Daddy ¦ Joe D. Johnson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fo6vheWjjM

    Some idiot thought that this might sell in 1963. He was about 5 years
    too late.

    65 ¦ What's Wrong ¦ Fats Domino
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4RqSyOrC0o

    Tough to say that anything by Fats in 1963 was obscure, but this was a
    track from an album that did not make the charts.

    77 ¦ Cherry ¦ Rivingtons
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL9Hk39Ow-M

    Burner ballad that the Bon-Aires later did with this same arrangement
    and George Lavatelli on lead.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlopvQ85K8M

    82 ¦ I Wanna Be Free ¦ Joe Tex
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_66xexvOHKQ

    A dial release from before he ever had a hit on the label.

    103 ¦ Go Girl Go ¦ Country G-J's
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwT1tKoqorU

    Even Diane likes this hillbilly sound. On the Valley label out of
    Illinois.

    https://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=886&type=ls

    118 ¦ Workout With Your Pretty Girl ¦ Tony & Technics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOML6lZETcc

    On the Chex label, which is best know for the big national hit "I Love
    You" by the Volumes.

    BONUS RECORD

    120 ¦ Tradin' Stamps ¦ Oboe
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5dhdpVdtn4

    An odd later Savoy record that sounds like a mix between New Orleans R&B
    and "The All American Boy."

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  • From Playlist@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 22 23:38:56 2024
    On Wed, 22 May 2024 06:08:51 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
    wrote:

    10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

    Today......from 1963

    https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=9hBeT8UVVpQ,PhKXuvyWkA4,PwQRCzVXa4g,KhufZ0-jms0,s8aVZZjJXow,0g8rG6WVJvk,xin0eHCfxLo,bQNR0pUCIoM,t_Fyqb_WnAI,JB2E99D6jl8,

    MARVA ALLEN HES GONE

    JIMMY ANDERSON IM A KING BEE

    THE CHANTS - I COULD WRITE A BOOK

    THE ENCHANTERS THE DAY

    GOOD TIME CHARLIE WATCH THAT STUFF

    BUNKER HILL THE GIRL CANT DANCE

    GREGORY HOWARD WHEN IN LOVE (DO AS LOVERS DO)

    JEWELL & THE RUBIES - KIDNAPPER

    THE STARGLOWS LETS BE LOVERS

    JAY WIGGINS SAD GIRL

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  • From Playlist@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed May 22 23:46:50 2024
    On Thu, 23 May 2024 02:33:59 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    Here are 10 obscurities from 1963 that I really like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=IGSJYOH_w6U,UdEo61Kza9Q,EZC6Ot1MLP0,Nrp3eVWhnOE,_Fo6vheWjjM,U4RqSyOrC0o,dL9Hk39Ow-M,vlopvQ85K8M,_66xexvOHKQ,AOML6lZETcc,r5dhdpVdtn4,

    4 Second Line Huey & Curley

    32 I'll See It Through Jimmy McCracklin

    33 Madness is Gladness Prince Buster

    57 My Baby's Sweet Homesick James

    64 Rattlesnake Daddy Joe D. Johnson

    65 What's Wrong Fats Domino

    77 Cherry Rivingtons

    82 I Wanna Be Free Joe Tex

    103 Go Girl Go Country G-J's

    118 Workout With Your Pretty Girl Tony & Technics

    BONUS RECORD
    120 Tradin' Stamps Oboe

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu May 23 04:59:03 2024
    Bruce wrote:

    Roger wrote:

    10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

    Today......from 1963

    MARVA ALLEN – HE’S GONE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hBeT8UVVpQ

    My friend says he likes the flip better.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkz1YKmD4wA

    I'm with you, "He's Gone" is the slightly side. But the flip seems to
    be
    a New Orleans sound. Is she from there?

    I don't know but I'd guess she is probably from Louisiana area

    THE CHANTS - I COULD WRITE A BOOK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwQRCzVXa4g

    PEW! That really stinks, and they are black in skin color only.

    That's really strange...you like a lot of other pretty feeble UK records
    but not this one which IMO is one of the best UK offerings of the period (obviously or it wouldn't be here)

    THE ENCHANTERS – THE DAY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhufZ0-jms0

    Like the group's 50s records a lot, but I can do without this one with
    that organ. This seems to be where you and I really part company, 1963.
    I fully embrace the Beatles and other rock bands from the UK this year
    and you don't.

    You have any info on when they recorded this?

    JAY WIGGINS – SAD GIRL
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB2E99D6jl8

    Cult classic around here, but just a 6 for me.

    Do you think it's the best version of the song as I do?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Thu May 23 06:09:51 2024
    Roger wrote:

    Bruce wrote:

    Roger wrote:

    10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

    Today......from 1963

    MARVA ALLEN – HE’S GONE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hBeT8UVVpQ

    My friend says he likes the flip better.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkz1YKmD4wA

    I'm with you, "He's Gone" is the slightly side. But the flip seems to
    be
    a New Orleans sound. Is she from there?

    I don't know but I'd guess she is probably from Louisiana area

    THE CHANTS - I COULD WRITE A BOOK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwQRCzVXa4g

    PEW! That really stinks, and they are black in skin color only.

    That's really strange...you like a lot of other pretty feeble UK
    records
    but not this one which IMO is one of the best UK offerings of the
    period
    (obviously or it wouldn't be here)

    THE ENCHANTERS – THE DAY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhufZ0-jms0

    Like the group's 50s records a lot, but I can do without this one with
    that organ. This seems to be where you and I really part company, 1963.
    I fully embrace the Beatles and other rock bands from the UK this year
    and you don't.

    You have any info on when they recorded this?

    JAY WIGGINS – SAD GIRL
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB2E99D6jl8

    Cult classic around here, but just a 6 for me.

    Do you think it's the best version of the song as I do?

    Never thought about it. I guess.

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu May 23 06:21:10 2024
    Bruce wrote:

    Okay, taking a break from listing things. Here are 10 obscurities from
    1963 that I really like.

    4 ¦ Second Line ¦ Huey & Curley
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGSJYOH_w6U

    I see 1962 on this in some places, and Discogs has it as 1964. It's
    basically "Rockin' Pneumonia" part 5 or so, I lost count.

    Yes,the year on this is contentious. I have 1963 too but.....

    It's #48 on my list and rated 8

    32 ¦ I'll See It Through ¦ Jimmy McCracklin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdEo61Kza9Q

    This guy has loads of lesser known great records.

    I have it as a 6.

    33 ¦ Madness is Gladness ¦ Prince Buster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZC6Ot1MLP0

    I'm sure this is very well known to a certain crowd, but I did not know
    that he did this first (before Madness) until this century.

    Don't care for this one

    57 ¦ My Baby's Sweet ¦ Homesick James https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrp3eVWhnOE

    Very cool blues record.

    Great double sider!! This side #46 on my list and an 8. The "A" side "Crossroads" is better still IMO
    #13 and a 9. This even got issued here but not t ill 1964 when it
    appeared on the UK Sue label.

    64 ¦ Rattlesnake Daddy ¦ Joe D. Johnson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fo6vheWjjM

    Some idiot thought that this might sell in 1963. He was about 5 years
    too late.

    Yes a real throwback but a highly likeable one. #101 with me and an 8

    65 ¦ What's Wrong ¦ Fats Domino
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4RqSyOrC0o

    Tough to say that anything by Fats in 1963 was obscure, but this was a
    track from an album that did not make the charts.

    Excellent 1955 recording by Fats that went unissued until his "Walking
    To New Orleans" LP in 1963. #56 on my list and an 8

    77 ¦ Cherry ¦ Rivingtons
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL9Hk39Ow-M

    Burner ballad that the Bon-Aires later did with this same arrangement
    and George Lavatelli on lead.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlopvQ85K8M

    You are on fire today picking things that rate high on my list too!

    I have this at #96 and an 8. Terrific record!! (but "Deep Water" is
    better still IMO)

    82 ¦ I Wanna Be Free ¦ Joe Tex
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_66xexvOHKQ

    A dial release from before he ever had a hit on the label.

    Haven't got this listed. Doesn't do that much for me...I'd rate it a 5 I
    guess. Fetches three figures over here tho when selling

    103 ¦ Go Girl Go ¦ Country G-J's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwT1tKoqorU

    Even Diane likes this hillbilly sound. On the Valley label out of
    Illinois.

    https://rcs-discography.com/rcs/show_pic.php?key=886&type=ls

    This one is new to me. Not bad need to hear it a few times. Sounds like
    a probable 7

    118 ¦ Workout With Your Pretty Girl ¦ Tony & Technics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOML6lZETcc

    On the Chex label, which is best know for the big national hit "I Love
    You" by the Volumes.

    This is new to me too but this one don't do much for me I'm afraid

    BONUS RECORD

    120 ¦ Tradin' Stamps ¦ Oboe
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5dhdpVdtn4

    An odd later Savoy record that sounds like a mix between New Orleans
    R&B
    and "The All American Boy."

    Did not know this but once you know that "The All American Boy" is real
    high on my all time HATES list you can guess the
    rest...............LOL!

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu May 23 10:00:46 2024
    On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:24:01 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    Roger wrote:

    10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

    Today......from 1963

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwQRCzVXa4g

    PEW! That really stinks, and they are black in skin color only.

    Well, it's not a desert island disc, that's for sure.

    I'm here because in looking to see if I could find 10 good songs and
    true for this thread I came across this UK Chants side from '63, which
    is, shall we say, more lively:

    The Chants - Come Go With Me [Pye 7N 15557;b-side] - 1963 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojkafjGAtQ0

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 23 11:45:58 2024
    On Wed, 22 May 2024 06:08:51 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
    wrote:

    Today......from 1963

    Ten of Geoff's Fave Obscurities from 1963

    Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=SSCw-1FhDhw,YL_kEzwhgCI,6OetW7wxwxM,3pJz7DI9rLg,wt1kujSJhE8,5UFONkZ3ddU,GA2vY08i38I,XqkVqEEl8jU,axqoh3QebWY,V7MjYMvo0l4

    The Pharos - Pintor [Del-Fi 4208] (Instro) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSCw-1FhDhw

    Slim Harpo - I Love The Life I'm Living [Excello 2239] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL_kEzwhgCI

    Barbara Greene - Long Tall Sally [Atco 6250;b-side] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OetW7wxwxM

    Bobby Garrett - Short Skirts [E&M 1602] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pJz7DI9rLg
    solid rocker with captivating lyrics

    The Fabulaires - Lonely Days, Lonely Nights [Chelsea 103;b-side;NY] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt1kujSJhE8
    it's said that this doo wop side became big in Pittsburgh in 1964

    Julito & The Latin Lads - Nunca {Never} [Rico-Vox 27] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UFONkZ3ddU

    Johnny Fortune - Dragster [Park Ave 130;b-side] (Instro) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA2vY08i38I
    Johnny Fortune(Sudetta) (1943-2006), guitarist from Warren, Ohio

    Irma Thomas - Ruler Of My Heart [Minit 666] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqkVqEEl8jU

    The Creators - Crazy Love [Epic 5-9605;b-side] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axqoh3QebWY

    The Earls - Never [Old Town 1133]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7MjYMvo0l4

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to RWC on Thu May 23 16:28:53 2024
    RWC wrote:

    The Earls - Never [Old Town 1133]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7MjYMvo0l4

    Not obscure. It bubbled under on BB and was also a hug hit in NYC. Here
    it is at #15 on WABC.

    https://www.musicradio77.com/Surveys/1963/surveymar1963.html

    WABC Silver Dollar Sound Survey for Week of 19 March 1963




    TW LW
    1. He’s So Fine - The Chiffons (Laurie) *2 weeks #1* 1
    2. Our Day Will Come - Ruby & the Romantics (Kapp) 2
    3. Blame It On the Bossa Nova - Eydie Gorme (Columbia) 4
    *4. I Will Follow Him - Little Peggy March (RCA) 35
    5. Cast Your Fate to the Wind -
    The Vince Guaraldi Trio (Fantasy) 5
    *6. Baby Workout - Jackie Wilson (Brunswick) 8
    7. Rhythm of the Rain - The Cascades (Valiant) 6
    8. South Street - The Orlons (Cameo) 11
    9. Walk Like a Man - The 4 Seasons (Vee Jay) 7
    10. Hey Paula - Paul and Paula (Philips) 3
    11. The End of the World - Skeeter Davis (RCA) 16
    *12. Mr. Bass Man - Johnny Cymbal (Kapp) 10
    *13. Why Do Lovers Break Each Others Heart? -
    Bob B. Soxx & the Blue Jeans (Philles) 17
    14. Watermelon Man - Mongo Santamaria (Battle) 22
    15. Never - The Earls (Old Town) 24
    16. What Will Mary Say - Johnny Mathis (Columbia) 13
    *17. Ruby Baby - Dion (Columbia) 9
    18. I Wanna Be Around - Tony Bennett (Columbia) 20
    19. Call On Me - Bobby Bland (Duke) 21
    20. You’re the Reason I’m Living - Bobby Darin (Capitol) 14
    21. What Are Boys Made Of - The Percells (ABC-Paramount) 23
    22. Follow the Boys - Connie Francis (MGM) 40
    23. Mama Didn’t Lie - Jan Bradley (Chess) 12
    24. From a Jack to a King - Ned Miller (Fabor) 19
    25. Wild Weekend - The Rebels (Swan) 15
    26. You’ve Really Got a Hold On Me - The Miracles (Tamla) 25
    *27. Walk Right In - The Rooftop Singers (Vanguard) 18
    28. Can’t Get Used to Losing You - Andy Williams (Columbia) 26
    29. In Dreams - Roy Orbison (Monument) 34
    30. Call Me Irresponsible - Jack Jones (Kapp) --
    31. Laughing Boy - Mary Wells (Motown) 33
    32. All I Have to Do is Dream - Richard Chamberlain (MGM) 27
    33. Out of My Mind - Johnny Tillotson (Cadence) --
    34. Big Wide World - Teddy Randazzo (Colpix) 30
    35. Our Winter Love - Bill Pursell (Columbia) 31
    36. I Got What I Wanted - Brook Benton (Mercury) --
    37. All Over the World - Nat “King” Cole (Capitol) --
    38. One Broken Heart For Sale - Elvis Presley (RCA) --
    *39. Yakety Sax - Boots Randolph (Monument) 29
    *40. Killer Joe - The Rocky Fellers (Scepter) PH

    Hot Prospects:
    Young Lovers - Paul and Paula (Philips)
    Pipeline - The Chantay’s (Dot)
    Foolish Little Girl - The Shirelles (Scepter)
    Puff (the Magic Dragon) -
    Peter, Paul and Mary (Warner Brothers)

    Radio 77 Pick Hit:
    Charms - Bobby Vee (Liberty)

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to RWC on Thu May 23 16:24:59 2024
    RWC wrote:

    On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:24:01 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    Roger wrote:

    10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

    Today......from 1963

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwQRCzVXa4g

    PEW! That really stinks, and they are black in skin color only.

    Well, it's not a desert island disc, that's for sure.

    I'm here because in looking to see if I could find 10 good songs and
    true for this thread I came across this UK Chants side from '63, which
    is, shall we say, more lively:

    The Chants - Come Go With Me [Pye 7N 15557;b-side] - 1963 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojkafjGAtQ0

    Better, but the organ really hurts IMO.

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to RWC on Thu May 23 19:58:39 2024
    RWC wrote:

    On Wed, 22 May 2024 16:24:01 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    Roger wrote:

    10 more obscurities chosen at random from my favorites lists

    Today......from 1963

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwQRCzVXa4g

    PEW! That really stinks, and they are black in skin color only.

    Well, it's not a desert island disc, that's for sure.

    I'm here because in looking to see if I could find 10 good songs and
    true for this thread I came across this UK Chants side from '63, which
    is, shall we say, more lively:

    The Chants - Come Go With Me [Pye 7N 15557;b-side] - 1963 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojkafjGAtQ0

    It's so-so but hardly a patch on the DEFINITIVE "Come Go With Me" - i.e
    The Dell-Vikings

    Here are the versions of the song I like best ranked in order

    THE DELL-VIKINGS - 10 (Best by far---and with one of greatest sax breaks
    ever courtesy Gene Upshaw)
    THE FEDERALS - 7
    DION - 7
    THE ORLONS - 6
    THE CHANTS - 6

    I generally like The Beach Boys a lot but they don't shine on this
    number for me

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to Bruce on Fri May 24 17:37:00 2024
    On Thu, 23 May 2024 16:28:53 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    RWC wrote:

    The Earls - Never [Old Town 1133]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7MjYMvo0l4

    Not obscure. It bubbled under on BB and was also a huge hit in NYC. Here
    it is at #15 on WABC.

    That's okay, I can live with that, Bruce.

    I knew it Bubbled Under (saw a comment in a YT link) but since
    it did not enter the Hot 100 I decided, perhaps mistakenly, to
    continue regardless.

    I take 'obscure' to be from a *national* perspective, so frankly
    I'm not going to be influenced much by a local NYC, Pittsburgh
    or wherever chart.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to RWC on Sat May 25 06:43:48 2024
    RWC wrote:

    On Thu, 23 May 2024 16:28:53 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    RWC wrote:

    The Earls - Never [Old Town 1133]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7MjYMvo0l4

    Not obscure. It bubbled under on BB and was also a huge hit in NYC. Here
    it is at #15 on WABC.

    That's okay, I can live with that, Bruce.

    I knew it Bubbled Under (saw a comment in a YT link) but since
    it did not enter the Hot 100 I decided, perhaps mistakenly, to
    continue regardless.

    I take 'obscure' to be from a *national* perspective, so frankly
    I'm not going to be influenced much by a local NYC, Pittsburgh
    or wherever chart.

    NYC Is the biggest market. If it's a hit there it's not obscure.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sat May 25 13:39:14 2024
    On Sat, 25 May 2024 06:43:48 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    RWC wrote:

    On Thu, 23 May 2024 16:28:53 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    RWC wrote:

    The Earls - Never [Old Town 1133]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7MjYMvo0l4

    Not obscure. It bubbled under on BB and was also a huge hit in NYC. Here >>>it is at #15 on WABC.

    That's okay, I can live with that, Bruce.

    I knew it Bubbled Under (saw a comment in a YT link) but since
    it did not enter the Hot 100 I decided, perhaps mistakenly, to
    continue regardless.

    I take 'obscure' to be from a *national* perspective, so frankly
    I'm not going to be influenced much by a local NYC, Pittsburgh
    or wherever chart.

    NYC Is the biggest market. If it's a hit there it's not obscure.

    We'll agree to disagree on this. If it's not a hit in California and
    it's not in the Hot 100 or Bubbling Under then it's obscure.

    A practical problem with Bubbling Under is that folk without
    books cannot easily and quickly check this out (one presumes)?

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