Okay, just records that sound like they are from our time and were also
pretty obscure.

Dead Presidents ¦ Little Walter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOIyTYtMQbE

Little Queen Bee ¦ Slim Harpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsOJ837pcB4

Some More ¦ Willie Mabon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kesCR3jEElg

If You Don't Know What Love Is ¦ Fats Domino (His best on ABC IMO) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRsdUn0LpZQ

My Best Friend's Girl ¦ Jackie Wilson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkGsVugFX9o

What Kind Of Man Is This ¦ Koko Taylor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGRFLIUkrA

My Country Sugar Mama ¦ Howlin' Wolf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d4m3CxFIhQ

I Want You (Back) ¦ Larks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDuXsMxK1A

Too Many Drivers ¦ Lowell Fulsom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kXTIEVcIc

Since You've Been Gone ¦ Velvet Angels (The Diablos in disguise, better
than Clyde's version IMO)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbIdrbu-lYk

Lovely, Lovely ¦ Chubby Checker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnRaJGWJRsc

Some Time I Wonder ¦ Willie Mabon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBR9P20Dc7c

Little Lonely Summer Girl ¦ David Box (Buddy Holly soundalike who was in
the Crickets for a bit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L33J_hGTQ

I'm Gonna Cry ¦ Wilson Pickett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2PcPug2oqM

Gypsy Woman Told Me ¦ Eddie Powers (Diane and I saw him live a little
north of New Orleans)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUIO77qB7nI

I'll Cry Instead ¦ Joe Cocker (I included this because of the acoustic
bass)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZm9H_hN5U

That Day When She Needed Me ¦ Contours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMUlrjHj5cs

Hey Good Lookin' ¦ Bo Diddley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE55xzNcVIM

Out Of My Life ¦ Expressions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2WZ-lELcUA

16 Bums ¦ Dickie Goodman (pretty sure it's from a 1964 album despite
what the video says)
https://youtu.be/9H1AodveBck?t=4

https://i.discogs.com/BVihimkXKli5qcGIlyzQQt8ekyHn7mCezWACWfRbP7o/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:354/w:355/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTczNzQ4/MzgtMTU2Mzk3NzYx/Ni04NTc2LmpwZWc.jpeg

Goin' Down To Eli's ¦ Robert Nighthawk and His Flames https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLruFtmNKIM

Here Tis ¦ High Numbers (Faithful remake of a Bo Diddley number from a
couple years prior)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuoHl9mPKIs

You Move Me Baby ¦ Lightnin' Slim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oik-ERE1Yw

My John The Conquer Root ¦ Muddy Waters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLVo8zkBy1w

Give Me Back My Heart ¦ Jackie Wilson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwUlP1X79Q

(Not really obscure as it charted R&B in Cash Box, but it's such a good
record and so much of an earlier than 1964 sound that I included it)

Friday Night Get-Together ¦ Eddy Jacobs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cC9IAII9Vw

Hey Good Lookin' ¦ Billy Abbott & Jewels (The Hank Williams classic doo
wop, but somehow it works)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHePbc8Em9o

Fading Day ¦ Peter Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf9qHqSVEag

I Know Why ¦ Springers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJoikgZfZrc

Why Have I Had So Much Trouble ¦ Clarence Ashe (Answer to his hit
"Trouble I've Had)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGizLG6bJUU

Shouldn't I ¦ Orients (Black vocal group with a good uptempo doo wop on Laurie)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ZjfZN1FCQ

Don't Wait Too Long ¦ Bettye Swann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKq8fEBS9ok

Love Ain't Nothin' ¦ Johnny Nash (He made some good soul records at
times)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlqoDW3vZ9U

Spanish Harlem ¦ Clyde McPhatter (A nice version by Clyde) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zblAiD3nYvk

(I've Just Got To) Cut You Loose ¦ Boomerangs (A Soul-Wop) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSIPHrDLasg

Sad Feeling ¦ Cicero Blake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7BSJOz5QnE

Found a copy of this 45 and a bunch of other odd soul and blues 45's
from the 60s during my first trip to Chicago. It was on the West Side in
a grocery store. In between the lettuce and the toilet paper they had a
little section with records.

Cicero went on to make a big underground hit in the 80s called "Dip My
Dipper." I also found that in Chicago. Did not know it before that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8SMwS4s6Ps

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I'm tied up all day today but I will get to replying (and hopefully
adding) to these tomorrow okay

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Bruce wrote:

Here Tis ¦ High Numbers (Faithful remake of a Bo Diddley number from a > couple years prior)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuoHl9mPKIs

Actually, strike this, it was unissued until decades later.

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On 6/25/2024 2:14 AM, Bruce wrote:

I Want You (Back) ¦ Larks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDuXsMxK1A

----------
This is a 9 for me. I love this record. Don Julian at his best. But
it charted in 1972 and I can't find any proof that it was actually
released in 1964. Roger, what do you have?

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DianeE wrote:

On 6/25/2024 2:14 AM, Bruce wrote:

I Want You (Back) ¦ Larks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDuXsMxK1A

----------
This is a 9 for me. I love this record. Don Julian at his best. But
it charted in 1972 and I can't find any proof that it was actually
released in 1964.

I sent you this link months ago. Isn't that proof?

https://www.discogs.com/release/5030829-Don-Julian-And-The-Larks-I-Want-You-Back-The-Jerk

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DianeE wrote:

On 6/25/2024 6:16 PM, Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:

On 6/25/2024 2:14 AM, Bruce wrote:

I Want You (Back) ¦ Larks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDuXsMxK1A

----------
This is a 9 for me. I love this record. Don Julian at his best.

But

it charted in 1972 and I can't find any proof that it was actually
released in 1964.

I sent you this link months ago. Isn't that proof?

https://www.discogs.com/release/5030829-Don-Julian-And-The-Larks-I-Want-You-Back-The-Jerk
------------
No, it isn't.
How do you know it's not a bootleg or a fake?
And if it really was released in 1964 how come it suddenly charted in
1972?
You told me you heard it was "recently discovered," but to use an
expression my parents used to say..."where is it written?"

A "bootleg" is an illegal copy of an existing record pressed by someone
not authorized to do so. If that's a bootleg, then the record exists in
a legitimate copy. And what do you mean by a fake? Does that mean there
is no record and that the one shown in the listing is just a drawing of
a record or something? What would anybody gain by listing a fake? Did
someone hear you were looking into it and they wanted to fool you?

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On 6/25/2024 6:16 PM, Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:

On 6/25/2024 2:14 AM, Bruce wrote:

I Want You (Back) ¦ Larks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDuXsMxK1A

----------
This is a 9 for me. I love this record. Don Julian at his best. But
it charted in 1972 and I can't find any proof that it was actually
released in 1964.

I sent you this link months ago. Isn't that proof?

https://www.discogs.com/release/5030829-Don-Julian-And-The-Larks-I-Want-You-Back-The-Jerk
------------
No, it isn't.
How do you know it's not a bootleg or a fake?
And if it really was released in 1964 how come it suddenly charted in 1972?
You told me you heard it was "recently discovered," but to use an
expression my parents used to say..."where is it written?"

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Bruce wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Here Tis ¦ High Numbers (Faithful remake of a Bo Diddley number from a >
couple years prior)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuoHl9mPKIs

Actually, strike this, it was unissued until decades later.

I beieve they only ever had the one single released under "The High
Numbers" name "Zoot Suit"/"I'm The Face"
on Fontana here in UK in 1964----that easily fetches a four figure sum
when sold today

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Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:

On 6/25/2024 6:16 PM, Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:

On 6/25/2024 2:14 AM, Bruce wrote:

I Want You (Back) ¦ Larks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDuXsMxK1A

----------
This is a 9 for me. I love this record. Don Julian at his best.

But

it charted in 1972 and I can't find any proof that it was actually
released in 1964.

I sent you this link months ago. Isn't that proof?

https://www.discogs.com/release/5030829-Don-Julian-And-The-Larks-I-Want-You-Back-The-Jerk
------------
No, it isn't.
How do you know it's not a bootleg or a fake?
And if it really was released in 1964 how come it suddenly charted in
1972?

It happens occasionally. An old record gets re-released and makes the
charts. Happens a lot in the UK. Happened with "Shaving Cream" by Benny
Bell.

You told me you heard it was "recently discovered," but to use an
expression my parents used to say..."where is it written?"

You only argument that would be possibly right is that the record in the Discogs listing is not from 1964, but is a reissue of two hits put out
by Don Julian or somebody still around from that label and that it was
pressed some time after "I Want You (Back)" was a hit in 1972. But it
certainly looks a lot more like something from 1964 than something from
the 70s or later.

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On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 06:14:40 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

Little Lonely Summer Girl ¦ David Box (Buddy Holly soundalike who was in
the Crickets for a bit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L33J_hGTQ

I think I remember the name David Box from when Virgil Johnson had his Internet radio station (KDAV
from Lubbock, Texas) that we discovered in 1998. I can't remember if there was one particular
song, but I don't think it was this one. I do remember that he sounded like someone, so it must
have been Buddy.

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Roger wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Here Tis ¦ High Numbers (Faithful remake of a Bo Diddley number from a > >>> couple years prior)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuoHl9mPKIs

Actually, strike this, it was unissued until decades later.

I beieve they only ever had the one single released under "The High
Numbers" name "Zoot Suit"/"I'm The Face"
on Fontana here in UK in 1964----that easily fetches a four figure sum
when sold today

Yes, and both sides are rip offs of earlier records. "Got Love If You
Want It" by Slim Harpo and "Misery" by the Dynamics.

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DianeE wrote:

On 6/25/2024 2:14 AM, Bruce wrote:

I Want You (Back) ¦ Larks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDuXsMxK1A

----------
This is a 9 for me. I love this record. Don Julian at his best. But
it charted in 1972 and I can't find any proof that it was actually
released in 1964. Roger, what do you have?

I don't have it listed since (unsurprisingly) I could never decide which
year it belonged in :)

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On 6/26/2024 12:12 AM, Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:

On 6/25/2024 6:16 PM, Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:

On 6/25/2024 2:14 AM, Bruce wrote:

I Want You (Back) ¦ Larks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDuXsMxK1A

----------
This is a 9 for me. I love this record. Don Julian at his best.

But

it charted in 1972 and I can't find any proof that it was actually
released in 1964.

I sent you this link months ago. Isn't that proof?

https://www.discogs.com/release/5030829-Don-Julian-And-The-Larks-I-Want-You-Back-The-Jerk
------------
No, it isn't.
How do you know it's not a bootleg or a fake?
And if it really was released in 1964 how come it suddenly charted in
1972?
You told me you heard it was "recently discovered," but to use an
expression my parents used to say..."where is it written?"

A "bootleg" is an illegal copy of an existing record pressed by someone
not authorized to do so. If that's a bootleg, then the record exists in
a legitimate copy. And what do you mean by a fake? Does that mean there
is no record and that the one shown in the listing is just a drawing of
a record or something? What would anybody gain by listing a fake? Did someone hear you were looking into it and they wanted to fool you?

------------
I mean the kind of thing Joe Pecoraro used to do, like an artist makes
up a label and has a fake 45 rpm record of the 5 Sharps "Stormy
Weather." I don't know the right word for it, evidently.

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DianeE wrote:

On 6/26/2024 12:12 AM, Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:

On 6/25/2024 6:16 PM, Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:

On 6/25/2024 2:14 AM, Bruce wrote:

I Want You (Back) ¦ Larks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDuXsMxK1A

----------
This is a 9 for me. I love this record. Don Julian at his

best.

But

it charted in 1972 and I can't find any proof that it was

actually

released in 1964.

I sent you this link months ago. Isn't that proof?

https://www.discogs.com/release/5030829-Don-Julian-And-The-Larks-I-Want-You-Back-The-Jerk
------------
No, it isn't.
How do you know it's not a bootleg or a fake?
And if it really was released in 1964 how come it suddenly charted

in

1972?
You told me you heard it was "recently discovered," but to use an
expression my parents used to say..."where is it written?"

A "bootleg" is an illegal copy of an existing record pressed by

someone

not authorized to do so. If that's a bootleg, then the record exists

in

a legitimate copy. And what do you mean by a fake? Does that mean

there

is no record and that the one shown in the listing is just a drawing

of

a record or something? What would anybody gain by listing a fake? Did someone hear you were looking into it and they wanted to fool you?

------------
I mean the kind of thing Joe Pecoraro used to do, like an artist makes
up a label and has a fake 45 rpm record of the 5 Sharps "Stormy
Weather." I don't know the right word for it, evidently.

And why would someone go to the trouble of doing that for a record that
is not in any demand?

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Bruce wrote:

Okay, just records that sound like they are from our time and were also pretty obscure.

Dead Presidents ¦ Little Walter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOIyTYtMQbE

111oon my list and a 7

Little Queen Bee ¦ Slim Harpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsOJ837pcB4

Or to be exact "Little Queen Bee (Got A Brand New King)".#130 and 7

Some More ¦ Willie Mabon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kesCR3jEElg

#77 and 7

If You Don't Know What Love Is ¦ Fats Domino (His best on ABC IMO) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRsdUn0LpZQ

#232 AND 7

My Best Friend's Girl ¦ Jackie Wilson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkGsVugFX9o

#`179 and 7

What Kind Of Man Is This ¦ Koko Taylor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGRFLIUkrA

My favorite from this list. #44 and an 8

My Country Sugar Mama ¦ Howlin' Wolf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d4m3CxFIhQ

#243 and 7

I Want You (Back) ¦ Larks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDuXsMxK1A

See my earlier post re this one

Too Many Drivers ¦ Lowell Fulsom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kXTIEVcIc

#245 and a 7

Since You've Been Gone ¦ Velvet Angels (The Diablos in disguise, better
than Clyde's version IMO)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbIdrbu-lYk

We part company as I rate the Velvet Angels just a 6 whereas the better
Clyde version is a 7 in 1959

Lovely, Lovely ¦ Chubby Checker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnRaJGWJRsc

Again just a 6. There's not too many of Chubby's records that really
grab me

Some Time I Wonder ¦ Willie Mabon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBR9P20Dc7c

#249 and a 7

Little Lonely Summer Girl ¦ David Box (Buddy Holly soundalike who was in
the Crickets for a bit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L33J_hGTQ

A 6. This guy never appealed to me very much

I'm Gonna Cry ¦ Wilson Pickett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2PcPug2oqM

#69 and a 7

Gypsy Woman Told Me ¦ Eddie Powers (Diane and I saw him live a little
north of New Orleans)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUIO77qB7nI

#86 and a 7

I'll Cry Instead ¦ Joe Cocker (I included this because of the acoustic
bass)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZm9H_hN5U

Recorded for Decca in London and his debut on wax I believe. I like
neither song nor artist sorry

That Day When She Needed Me ¦ Contours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMUlrjHj5cs

Nice B-side. #233 and a 7

Hey Good Lookin' ¦ Bo Diddley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE55xzNcVIM

#50 and an 8

Out Of My Life ¦ Expressions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2WZ-lELcUA

#92 and 7

16 Bums ¦ Dickie Goodman (pretty sure it's from a 1964 album despite
what the video says)
https://youtu.be/9H1AodveBck?t=4

Um.....don't call us we'll call you!!F

https://i.discogs.com/BVihimkXKli5qcGIlyzQQt8ekyHn7mCezWACWfRbP7o/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:354/w:355/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTczNzQ4/MzgtMTU2Mzk3NzYx/Ni04NTc2LmpwZWc.jpeg

Goin' Down To Eli's ¦ Robert Nighthawk and His Flames https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLruFtmNKIM

Never heard of this one before. What's the story here?

Here Tis ¦ High Numbers (Faithful remake of a Bo Diddley number from a couple years prior)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuoHl9mPKIs

Not my thing at all but this early Who release is HUGE rarity today
fetches EASY three figures on e-Bay

You Move Me Baby ¦ Lightnin' Slim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oik-ERE1Yw

#192 aqnd 7

My John The Conquer Root ¦ Muddy Waters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLVo8zkBy1w

#185 and 7

Give Me Back My Heart ¦ Jackie Wilson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwUlP1X79Q

Just a 6 here

(Not really obscure as it charted R&B in Cash Box, but it's such a good record and so much of an earlier than 1964 sound that I included it)

Friday Night Get-Together ¦ Eddy Jacobs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cC9IAII9Vw

#270 a nd 7

Hey Good Lookin' ¦ Billy Abbott & Jewels (The Hank Williams classic doo
wop, but somehow it works)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHePbc8Em9o

Just a 6

Fading Day ¦ Peter Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf9qHqSVEag

D id not know this one. First hearing doesn't impress but I'll give it a
couple more spins

I Know Why ¦ Springers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJoikgZfZrc

Another 6 here

Why Have I Had So Much Trouble ¦ Clarence Ashe (Answer to his hit
"Trouble I've Had)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGizLG6bJUU

The concept worked well...THE ONCE! Doesn't lend itself to repetition.
Low 6 here

Shouldn't I ¦ Orients (Black vocal group with a good uptempo doo wop on Laurie)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ZjfZN1FCQ

#80 and 7

Don't Wait Too Long ¦ Bettye Swann https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKq8fEBS9ok

#284 and 7

Love Ain't Nothin' ¦ Johnny Nash (He made some good soul records at
times)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlqoDW3vZ9U

Another 6

Spanish Harlem ¦ Clyde McPhatter (A nice version by Clyde) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zblAiD3nYvk

A 6 for me but Benny rules big time for me with this song

(I've Just Got To) Cut You Loose ¦ Boomerangs (A Soul-Wop) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSIPHrDLasg

#91 and 7

Sad Feeling ¦ Cicero Blake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7BSJOz5QnE

Found a copy of this 45 and a bunch of other odd soul and blues 45's
from the 60s during my first trip to Chicago. It was on the West Side in
a grocery store. In between the lettuce and the toilet paper they had a little section with records.

Cicero went on to make a big underground hit in the 80s called "Dip My Dipper." I also found that in Chicago. Did not know it before that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8SMwS4s6Ps

#66 and 8

Let me see what I can find...............

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On 6/26/2024 11:07 AM, Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:

On 6/26/2024 12:12 AM, Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:
;

On 6/25/2024 6:16 PM, Bruce wrote:
;  > DianeE wrote:
;  >
;  >> On 6/25/2024 2:14 AM, Bruce wrote:
;  >>  > I Want You (Back) ¦ Larks
;  >>  > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xDuXsMxK1A
;  >> ----------
;  >> This is a 9 for me.  I love this record.  Don Julian at his

best.

But
;  >> it charted in 1972 and I can't find any proof that it was

actually

;  >> released in 1964.
;  >
;  > I sent you this link months ago. Isn't that proof?
;  >
;  >
;

https://www.discogs.com/release/5030829-Don-Julian-And-The-Larks-I-Want-You-Back-The-Jerk

------------
No, it isn't.
How do you know it's not a bootleg or a fake?
And if it really was released in 1964 how come it suddenly charted

in

1972?
You told me you heard it was "recently discovered," but to use an
expression my parents used to say..."where is it written?"

;
A "bootleg" is an illegal copy of an existing record pressed by

someone

not authorized to do so. If that's a bootleg, then the record exists

in

a legitimate copy. And what do you mean by a fake? Does that mean

there

is no record and that the one shown in the listing is just a drawing

of

a record or something? What would anybody gain by listing a fake? Did
someone hear you were looking into it and they wanted to fool you?

------------
I mean the kind of thing Joe Pecoraro used to do, like an artist makes
up a label and has a fake 45 rpm record of the 5 Sharps "Stormy
Weather."  I don't know the right word for it, evidently.

And why would someone go to the trouble of doing that for a record that
is not in any demand?

-----------
To *create* a demand.

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On 6/26/2024 11:42 AM, Roger wrote:

Goin' Down To Eli's ¦ Robert Nighthawk and His Flames https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLruFtmNKIM

-----------
Isn't this from the "Live On Maxwell Street" album?

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Bruce wrote:

Okay, just records that sound like they are from our time and were also pretty obscure.

Love Ain't Nothin' ¦ Johnny Nash (He made some good soul records at
times)

It will take an awful lot to atone for his part in "The Teen
Commandments"

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DianeE wrote:

On 6/26/2024 11:07 AM, Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:

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I mean the kind of thing Joe Pecoraro used to do, like an artist makes
up a label and has a fake 45 rpm record of the 5 Sharps "Stormy
Weather."  I don't know the right word for it, evidently.

And why would someone go to the trouble of doing that for a record that
is not in any demand?

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To *create* a demand.

How does pressing up records create a demand?

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Roger wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Okay, just records that sound like they are from our time and were also
pretty obscure.

Roger wrote :

Let me see what I can find...............

Okay from my 1964 list these seem to fit the bill but see what you think

JIMMY ANDERSON – Going Crazy Over TV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAlvHveHP0Y

CHUCK BERRY – Go Bobby Soxer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zWdNJzM6eA

LITTLE BUSTER – Lookin’ For A Home https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y8fy1I-wRc

THE CAMELOTS – Searchng For My Baby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmW7LHz52ts

THE COBRAS- La La
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXFHnkF1IiE

THE CORSELLS – Nobody Heard About Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__m9a3KyBd0

DON & DEWEY – Get Your Hat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QhS0nf7buQ

BIG AL DOWNING – Georgia Slop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpxFM8aYa8

SLIM HARPO – I Need Money (Keep Your Alibis) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDQyf8P16c

HOMESICK JAMES – The Woman I’m Lovin’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGAS5BFyiYg

LIGHTNIN’ SLIM – You Move Me Baby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWdVdqNi7RA

LITTLE MR LEE & THE CHEROKEES – Will My Baby Come Back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7MdCu-dY3I

LITTLE MARCUS & THE DEVOTIONS – I’ll Always Remember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNNb8NC20MY

THE METEORS – Trying To Get Back Home https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU3S34k0jdY

THE RIALTOS – It Hurts/Let Me In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU-TV8JbtBY

DOCTOR ROSS – Call The Doctor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VNkjaKXR7M

JACK SCOTT – Wiggle On Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVahW67DLjg

EDDIE STAPLETON – Well I’m Weak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkdi8hebLy4

BA BA THOMAS – Miss Shake It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoW5mJLdNuU

THE TWILIGHTS – Shipwreck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQp5_VqOfM0

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Obscure and 'sounding older', here are 10 more sides from 1964
(that I like):

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=cFsqbsZL73g,Q9dbITFXMGM,AxbwQtBZEdo,A5JWY_MhaJ4,IH3zhNeMm9Q,MtDkC42AWxw,f4BqlReLAAA,H39CR3-Oex4,6mHijgOaGgo,2iX6s46XNdc,

Arthur and the Corvets - I Believe [NRC 2871-232;;Atlanta GA] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFsqbsZL73g
"The last of the 50's type music, perhaps they didn't know how to
change musically with the times"
"has a good garage pop sound to it"
This is Arthur Conley who had a monster hit with
'Sweet Soul Music' in 1967.

Bruce Clark & The Q's - Went To Chinatown [Hull 762;b-side;NYC] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9dbITFXMGM
The vocal melody has, for me, an appealing eerie tension.
"Born in 1942 and raised in Brooklyn, Bruce Michael Clarke has had
a career in music spanning a lifetime. Ever since he began singing
harmonies with his childhood friends in the hallways of the
Red Hook Housing Projects, music has been a driving force in his
life. His first record in his own name was with Bruce & the Q’s.
It was also his last. Shortly thereafter he decided to focus on
producing...Over the years Bruce has owned and been involved with
several labels..."

Caroline Day - Steam [Dimension 1025;b-side;;NYC] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxbwQtBZEdo
label (1962-65) founded by Don Kirshner partly as an outlet to
showcase the songwriting talents of Goffin And King

Dean & Jean - Please Don't Tell Me Now [Rust 5075;b-side;NYC] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5JWY_MhaJ4
"Jean sounded like Ruth Brown."
"great medium tempo r'n'r in the Dion mould from the pen of
Ernie Maresca"
"4 years ago I found this song on 45rpm at a 2nd hand store in
Belgium!"

Kenny and The Fiends - Moon Shot [Dot 16596] (instro) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH3zhNeMm9Q
"the guitar 'zip-string/shredding' effect is obtained by gliding the
edge of a thin guitar pick over most of the length of one of the
wound strings such as the low 'E' string"

The Paramonts - Shedding Teardrops [Ember 1099;b-side] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtDkC42AWxw
correct spelling; out of Washington DC

The Delmonicos - Until You [Musictone 6122;;NYC] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4BqlReLAAA
from Harlem NY
Joe Cariati (Lead)
Victor Rodriguez (First Tenor)
Nick DiBona (Second Tenor)
John Martin (Baritone)
Gary Knight (Bass)

The Devotions - Snow White [Roulette 4580;b-side] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H39CR3-Oex4
from Astoria, Queens, NY; formed in 1960
Al Vieco (baritone) was still with the group in 2011
the group is most famous for its 1964 charting hit, "Rip Van Winkle"
"All the doo-wop groups were screwed the moment the British Invasion
hit."

Florian Monday And His Mondos - Rip It, Rip It Up [Realm 007;;NYC] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mHijgOaGgo
wild, manic greaser/garage rock from Woonsocket RI

L. C. Steels And The Jivers - I Will Always Love You [Manco 1061;;Fort
Worth TX]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iX6s46XNdc

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On 6/27/2024 3:14 AM, Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:

On 6/26/2024 11:07 AM, Bruce wrote:

DianeE wrote:

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I mean the kind of thing Joe Pecoraro used to do, like an artist makes
up a label and has a fake 45 rpm record of the 5 Sharps "Stormy
Weather." I don't know the right word for it, evidently.

And why would someone go to the trouble of doing that for a record that
is not in any demand?

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To *create* a demand.

How does pressing up records create a demand?

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Okay, here is something more significant. In 2002 the Kent (Ace UK)
label issued a CD called "Don Julian & The Larks: The Jerk: The Money Recordings." And "I Want You (Back)" does appear on this CD. It's
track #21. The CD includes recordings made for the Money label from
1964 thru 1967. So we have at least some proof that the song was
*recorded* in the mid-60s.
My feeling is that the record on Discogs is something Don Julian
released in 1972 (or possibly 71). If I'm proven wrong I'll admit it.
I always do. But it's weird to me that there's no other mention of it
being released in 1964.

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On 6/27/2024 3:08 AM, Roger wrote:

BIG AL DOWNING – Georgia Slop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpxFM8aYa8

This is very good, but I think it's a remake of a Jimmy McCracklin record?

THE TWILIGHTS – Shipwreck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQp5_VqOfM0

Oh! Good choice!!! I had forgotten about this one.

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Roger wrote:

Roger wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Okay, just records that sound like they are from our time and were also
pretty obscure.

Roger wrote :

Let me see what I can find...............

Okay from my 1964 list these seem to fit the bill but see what you think

JIMMY ANDERSON – Going Crazy Over TV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAlvHveHP0Y

Good, did not have it.

CHUCK BERRY – Go Bobby Soxer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zWdNJzM6eA

Good

LITTLE BUSTER – Lookin’ For A Home https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y8fy1I-wRc

Don't like this one.

THE CAMELOTS – Searchng For My Baby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmW7LHz52ts

Decent

THE COBRAS- La La
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXFHnkF1IiE

I passed on this as obscure as it was in regular rotation on the oldies
station in NYC for like a decade and it also was a hit in Philly.

THE CORSELLS – Nobody Heard About Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__m9a3KyBd0

Did not know this, it's good.

DON & DEWEY – Get Your Hat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QhS0nf7buQ

Never liked these guys much and this one is no exception.

BIG AL DOWNING – Georgia Slop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpxFM8aYa8

The biggest shock here is that Columbia signed him. It's not that bad,
but I'm not gonna keep a copy.

SLIM HARPO – I Need Money (Keep Your Alibis) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDQyf8P16c

This fast thing doesn't work for me.

HOMESICK JAMES – The Woman I’m Lovin’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGAS5BFyiYg

I'll keep this one, never heard it before.

LIGHTNIN’ SLIM – You Move Me Baby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWdVdqNi7RA

This I have, a 7.

LITTLE MR LEE & THE CHEROKEES – Will My Baby Come Back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7MdCu-dY3I

no.

LITTLE MARCUS & THE DEVOTIONS – I’ll Always Remember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNNb8NC20MY

No. What is the sax player doing, stepping all over the vocals?

THE METEORS – Trying To Get Back Home https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU3S34k0jdY

Video unavailable
This video is not available

This one works - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-sllZLVTXM

I'll pass on this one.

THE RIALTOS – It Hurts/Let Me In https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU-TV8JbtBY

No. Never been big on the 60s doo wop sound. Whi is this clown Mintrecords4ever?

DOCTOR ROSS – Call The Doctor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VNkjaKXR7M

I have "New York Breakdown," but this I can so without.

JACK SCOTT – Wiggle On Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVahW67DLjg

No.

EDDIE STAPLETON – Well I’m Weak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkdi8hebLy4

Definitely good enough to keep

BA BA THOMAS – Miss Shake It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoW5mJLdNuU

Nah.

THE TWILIGHTS – Shipwreck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQp5_VqOfM0

I dislike this one the most of anything here. Tedious.

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Bruce wrote:

Roger wrote:

Roger wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Okay, just records that sound like they are from our time and were also >>>> pretty obscure.

Roger wrote :

Let me see what I can find...............

Okay from my 1964 list these seem to fit the bill but see what you think

JIMMY ANDERSON – Going Crazy Over TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAlvHveHP0Y

Good, did not have it.

~268 and 7

CHUCK BERRY – Go Bobby Soxer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zWdNJzM6eA

Good

#184 and 7

LITTLE BUSTER – Lookin’ For A Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y8fy1I-wRc

Don't like this one.

We disagree mucho here....always liked this soulful piece since first
heard it in 1964 r&b clubs here

#85 and 7

THE CAMELOTS – Searchng For My Baby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmW7LHz52ts

Decent

#182 and 7

THE COBRAS- La La
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXFHnkF1IiE

I passed on this as obscure as it was in regular rotation on the oldies station in NYC for like a decade and it also was a hit in Philly.

It's knowing localized radio exposure of this type where you have the
advantage over me

#79 and 7

THE CORSELLS – Nobody Heard About Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__m9a3KyBd0

Did not know this, it's good.

#247 and 7

DON & DEWEY – Get Your Hat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QhS0nf7buQ

Never liked these guys much and this one is no exception.

Another one I remembered from the r&b club days. Came out same time as Richard's "Bama Lama Bama Loo" as Specialty were resurrected from the
dead in '64

#301 and a 7

BIG AL DOWNING – Georgia Slop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpxFM8aYa8

The biggest shock here is that Columbia signed him. It's not that bad,
but I'm not gonna keep a copy.

His best is the 1958 "Down On The Farm" I think but I like this one too
(his second for Columbia)

#183 and 7

SLIM HARPO – I Need Money (Keep Your Alibis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDQyf8P16c

This fast thing doesn't work for me.

#139 and 7

HOMESICK JAMES – The Woman I’m Lovin’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGAS5BFyiYg

I'll keep this one, never heard it before.

#63 and 8

LIGHTNIN’ SLIM – You Move Me Baby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWdVdqNi7RA

This I have, a 7.

#192 and 7

LITTLE MR LEE & THE CHEROKEES – Will My Baby Come Back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7MdCu-dY3I

no.

#252 and 7

LITTLE MARCUS & THE DEVOTIONS – I’ll Always Remember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNNb8NC20MY

No. What is the sax player doing, stepping all over the vocals?

#223 and 7

THE METEORS – Trying To Get Back Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU3S34k0jdY

Video unavailable
This video is not available

This one works - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-sllZLVTXM

I'll pass on this one.

#264 and 7

THE RIALTOS – It Hurts/Let Me In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU-TV8JbtBY

No. Never been big on the 60s doo wop sound. Whi is this clown Mintrecords4ever?

#90/#117 and 7's

DOCTOR ROSS – Call The Doctor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VNkjaKXR7M

I have "New York Breakdown," but this I can so without.

#172 and 7

JACK SCOTT – Wiggle On Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVahW67DLjg

No.

#222 and 7

EDDIE STAPLETON – Well I’m Weak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkdi8hebLy4

Definitely good enough to keep

My favorite on this list and a really good find at Fortune.

#21 and 8>

BA BA THOMAS – Miss Shake It

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoW5mJLdNuU

Nah.

#207 and 7

THE TWILIGHTS – Shipwreck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQp5_VqOfM0

I dislike this one the most of anything here. Tedious.

I'm sure you will not be surprised that I don't agree with that at all.

Liked this one since Steve Solomon (remember him?) turned me on to it
some years ago. I just found a 2003 post on here where I thanked him for
it

#218 and 7

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Roger wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Roger wrote:

THE TWILIGHTS – Shipwreck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQp5_VqOfM0

I dislike this one the most of anything here. Tedious.

I'm sure you will not be surprised that I don't agree with that at all.

Liked this one since Steve Solomon (remember him?)

Not directly, but Diane used to mention him.

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Steve Mc wrote:

On 6/28/2024 10:00 AM, Bruce wrote:

Liked this one since Steve Solomon (remember him?)

Not directly, but Diane used to mention him.

And part of what Diane called us, 'The Califiornia Steve's'. I don't
remember who the other one was.

Steve Propes

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On 6/28/2024 10:00 AM, Bruce wrote:

Liked this one since Steve Solomon (remember him?)

Not directly, but Diane used to mention him.

And part of what Diane called us, 'The Califiornia Steve's'. I don't
remember who the other one was.

--
Steve Mc

DNA to SBC to respond

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On 6/28/2024 11:13 AM, Roger wrote:

Steve Mc wrote:

On 6/28/2024 10:00 AM, Bruce wrote:

Liked this one since Steve Solomon (remember him?)

Not directly, but Diane used to mention him.

And part of what Diane called us, 'The Califiornia Steve's'. I don't
remember who the other one was.

Steve Propes

Duh !! Of course.

I even got him, thru Norm,  to sign his "What Was The First Rock N Roll
Record ' as a gift for my brother.

--
Steve Mc

DNA to SBC to respond

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Steve Mc wrote:

On 6/28/2024 11:13 AM, Roger wrote:

Steve Mc wrote:

On 6/28/2024 10:00 AM, Bruce wrote:

Liked this one since Steve Solomon (remember him?)

Not directly, but Diane used to mention him.

And part of what Diane called us, 'The Califiornia Steve's'. I don't
remember who the other one was.

Steve Propes

Duh !! Of course.

I even got him, thru Norm,  to sign his "What Was The First Rock N Roll Record ' as a gift for my brother.

A couple of phone conversations way back and some correspondence via the newsgroup sums up my direct encounters with Steve. IIRC on one of my
California jaunts the Mariano Brothers were gonna set up a face to face
with him but it never materialized (nor did I ever meet Norm K face to
face only by phone)

BTW he has a whole bunch of videos posted on YT

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