• BATTLE Comment #4 - List of Battles

    From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 20 10:59:28 2024
    Battle 1947 Singles
    Battle 1948 Singles
    Battle 1949 Singles
    Battle 1950 Singles
    Battle 1951 Singles
    Battle 1952 Singles
    Battle 1953 Singles
    Battle 1954 Singles
    Battle 1955 Singles
    Battle 1956 Singles
    Battle 1957 Singles
    Battle 1958 Singles
    Battle 1959 Singles
    Battle 1960 Singles
    Battle 1961 Singles
    Battle 1962 Singles
    Battle 1963 Singles
    Battle 1964 Singles
    Battle Album Tracks
    Battle All Elvis
    Battle Christmas Champs
    Battle Classic Country
    Battle Dazzling Duets
    Battle Dynamic Debuts
    Battle Fabulous Femmes
    Battle Flipsides
    Battle Leiber & Stoller
    Battle Pop Singles
    Battle Singles 1948–1963 with Year Battle Ranking #1 – 40
    Battle Singles 1948–1963 with Year Battle Ranking #41 – 80
    Battle Strictly Instrumental
    Battle Unreleased
    Battle Vocal Groups
    Battle Vocal Groups Encore

    I don't see
    Battle Amusing Novelties :)

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to RWC on Sun Jul 21 15:27:34 2024
    On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 14:59:28 +0000, RWC wrote:


    Battle 1947 Singles
    Battle 1948 Singles
    Battle 1949 Singles
    Battle 1950 Singles
    Battle 1951 Singles
    Battle 1952 Singles
    Battle 1953 Singles
    Battle 1954 Singles
    Battle 1955 Singles
    Battle 1956 Singles
    Battle 1957 Singles
    Battle 1958 Singles
    Battle 1959 Singles
    Battle 1960 Singles
    Battle 1961 Singles
    Battle 1962 Singles
    Battle 1963 Singles
    Battle 1964 Singles
    Battle Album Tracks
    Battle All Elvis
    Battle Christmas Champs
    Battle Classic Country
    Battle Dazzling Duets
    Battle Dynamic Debuts
    Battle Fabulous Femmes
    Battle Flipsides
    Battle Leiber & Stoller
    Battle Pop Singles
    Battle Singles 1948–1963 with Year Battle Ranking #1 – 40
    Battle Singles 1948–1963 with Year Battle Ranking #41 – 80
    Battle Strictly Instrumental
    Battle Unreleased
    Battle Vocal Groups
    Battle Vocal Groups Encore

    I don't see
    Battle Amusing Novelties :)

    The battle that is REALLY missing is "The Rockabilly Battle" that I
    always wanted to do but which sadly never materialised

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  • From Steve Mc@21:1/5 to Roger on Sun Jul 21 09:33:54 2024
    On 7/21/2024 8:27 AM, Roger wrote:
    On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 14:59:28 +0000, RWC wrote:


    Battle 1947 Singles
    Battle 1948 Singles
    Battle 1949 Singles
    Battle 1950 Singles
    Battle 1951 Singles
    Battle 1952 Singles
    Battle 1953 Singles
    Battle 1954 Singles
    Battle 1955 Singles
    Battle 1956 Singles
    Battle 1957 Singles
    Battle 1958 Singles
    Battle 1959 Singles
    Battle 1960 Singles
    Battle 1961 Singles
    Battle 1962 Singles
    Battle 1963 Singles
    Battle 1964 Singles
    Battle Album Tracks
    Battle All Elvis
    Battle Christmas Champs
    Battle Classic Country
    Battle Dazzling Duets
    Battle Dynamic Debuts
    Battle Fabulous Femmes
    Battle Flipsides
    Battle Leiber & Stoller
    Battle Pop Singles
    Battle Singles 1948–1963 with Year Battle Ranking #1 – 40
    Battle Singles 1948–1963 with Year Battle Ranking #41 – 80
    Battle Strictly Instrumental
    Battle Unreleased
    Battle Vocal Groups
    Battle Vocal Groups Encore

    I don't see
    Battle Amusing Novelties :)

    The battle that is REALLY missing is "The Rockabilly Battle" that I
    always wanted to do but which sadly never materialised

    I realize we're all aging, but it's not too late to do it now, is it ?

    --
    Steve Mc

    DNA to SBC to respond

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 22 16:51:42 2024
    On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 15:27:34 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
    wrote:

    On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 14:59:28 +0000, RWC wrote:

    Battle 1947 Singles
    ...

    I don't see
    Battle Amusing Novelties :)

    The battle that is REALLY missing is "The Rockabilly Battle" that I
    always wanted to do but which sadly never materialised.

    One reason could have been that the definition of 1950s Rockabilly
    is highly controversial. I perceive, going by YouTube playlists, that
    Europeans and many RAB purists think that Rockabilly must sound
    like it comes out of Hicksville (so to speak, or for want of better
    words); this immediately disqualifies the likes of Gene Vincent and
    his relatively polished sounding rock 'n' roll arrangements and
    productions recorded by Capitol. Don't get me wrong, Gene Vincent
    is very likely adored by most if not all Rockabilly fans but these
    fans categorize him as mainstream rock 'n' roll not Rockabilly
    (a sub-genre of rock 'n' roll). That 2-cd 30 track Time Life
    Rockabilly Collection would be considered a bad joke by Europeans/RAB
    purists - for example, they would *hate* to see any of the following
    tracks in any Rockabilly Battle:

    Oh, Boy! - Buddy Holly and The Crickets 02:09
    Believe What You Say - Rick Nelson 02:06
    Bird Dog - The Everly Brothers 02:16
    Be-Bop-A-Lula - Gene Vincent 02:37
    The Way I Walk - Jack Scott 02:42
    Summertime Blues - Eddie Cochran 01:59
    The Fool - Sanford Clark 02:44
    Black Slacks - Joe Bennett and The Sparkletones 02:04
    Lonely Weekends - Charlie Rich 02:10
    Lonely Blue Boy - Conway Twitty 02:16
    See You Later, Alligator - Bill Haley and His Comets 02:43

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to RWC on Mon Jul 22 19:58:35 2024
    On 7/22/2024 4:51 PM, RWC wrote:

    .... That 2-cd 30 track Time Life
    Rockabilly Collection would be considered a bad joke by Europeans/RAB purists - for example, they would *hate* to see any of the following
    tracks in any Rockabilly Battle:

    Oh, Boy! - Buddy Holly and The Crickets 02:09
    Believe What You Say - Rick Nelson 02:06
    Bird Dog - The Everly Brothers 02:16
    Be-Bop-A-Lula - Gene Vincent 02:37
    The Way I Walk - Jack Scott 02:42
    Summertime Blues - Eddie Cochran 01:59
    The Fool - Sanford Clark 02:44
    Black Slacks - Joe Bennett and The Sparkletones 02:04
    Lonely Weekends - Charlie Rich 02:10
    Lonely Blue Boy - Conway Twitty 02:16
    See You Later, Alligator - Bill Haley and His Comets 02:43
    -----------
    Personally I have never understood why Carl Perkins is considered a
    rockabilly artist. I suppose it's because of the instrumentation and
    the country flavor (and that's all it is, a little flavor). Why would
    his version of "Blue Suede Shoes" be rockabilly while Elvis's is R&R?

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to DianeE on Tue Jul 23 02:36:38 2024
    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 23:58:35 +0000, DianeE wrote:

    Personally I have never understood why Carl Perkins is considered a rockabilly artist. I suppose it's because of the instrumentation and
    the country flavor (and that's all it is, a little flavor). Why would
    his version of "Blue Suede Shoes" be rockabilly while Elvis's is R&R?

    The slap bass, the two guitar breaks, much more country influence than
    the Elvis version, which has next to none. RCA has guys running his
    sessions there who had much more mainstream production values than Sam
    Phillips ever did at Sun. For me, nothing that Elvis recorded at RCA was rockabilly. Roger disagrees and thinks "My Baby Left Me" is rockabilly (
    and maybe others). For me it's just the Sun stuff including ones that
    did not come out until RCA, like "Just Because."

    Perkins is not only considered rockabilly, he's pretty much the epitome
    of rockabilly, although that all changed when he also left Sun for a
    major label in 1958. They pushed him more towards mainstream rock and
    roll initially, and in the 60s he started doing country and even more
    pop things. He eventually started to make rockabilly again in the 70s
    and beyond.

    The big 4 of rockabilly is Elvis on Sun, Perkins, The Burnette Trio, and Charlie Feathers. That is reflected on my DDD Greatest Rockabilly Songs
    list. Those 4 acts have 9 of the top 10 songs.

    https://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_songs-rbilly-x.html

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Jul 23 07:07:32 2024
    On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 2:36:38 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 23:58:35 +0000, DianeE wrote:

    Personally I have never understood why Carl Perkins is considered a
    rockabilly artist. I suppose it's because of the instrumentation and
    the country flavor (and that's all it is, a little flavor). Why would
    his version of "Blue Suede Shoes" be rockabilly while Elvis's is R&R?

    The slap bass, the two guitar breaks, much more country influence than
    the Elvis version, which has next to none. RCA has guys running his
    sessions there who had much more mainstream production values than Sam Phillips ever did at Sun. For me, nothing that Elvis recorded at RCA was rockabilly. Roger disagrees and thinks "My Baby Left Me" is rockabilly (
    and maybe others)

    I d4efinitely think this (and thus still sadly disagree :)

    The big 4 of rockabilly is Elvis on Sun, Perkins, The Burnette Trio, and Charlie Feathers.

    We can however agree here :)

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