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  • Doo-Wop Documentary

    From bbug@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 23 00:32:38 2024
    I just stumbled onto a PBS documentary Called "Heart & Soul," about a
    third of the way through the 1 1/2 hour show. It documents the early
    days of the Doo-Wop vocal groups and is terrific with a jarring
    exception.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13915868/

    If you can put up with the nauseating rendition of "You Send Me" by
    Phoebe Snow, the rest more than makes up for that with footage and
    discussions with members of many of the great groups.

    As far as I can tell, it will be on 3 local PBS stations, including
    WNET,on October 18, at 8 PM. I've already marked my calendar. Well worth checking with the local PBS stations.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 23 03:01:02 2024
    Director Kenny Vance

    I think I've seen this. It was okay.

    Is this the clip they showed?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WjwuBYQ9PQ

    I guess it was too soulful for you, Bill. Nothing wrong with it IMO.
    Much more of a black sound than the Cooke was. I knew her, she was a semi-regular at Relic when I worked there. Her younger sister came in
    more than she did.

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  • From bbug@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 23 09:31:32 2024
    That was not the clip used in the documentary. It was better than the
    one used.

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  • From bbug@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 23 10:26:36 2024
    "I think I've seen this."

    It would have had to be fairly recently. It was first available for
    broadcast in June of this year.

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Sep 23 12:34:16 2024
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 3:01:02 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Director Kenny Vance

    I think I've seen this. It was okay.

    Is this the clip they showed?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WjwuBYQ9PQ

    I guess it was too soulful for you, Bill. Nothing wrong with it IMO.
    Much more of a black sound than the Cooke was. I knew her, she was a semi-regular at Relic when I worked there. Her younger sister came in
    more than she did.

    Nope,not really for me either

    Aretha nails the femme version on this one but Sam still has THE "You
    Send Me"

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Mon Sep 23 13:27:24 2024
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 12:34:16 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 3:01:02 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Director Kenny Vance

    I think I've seen this. It was okay.

    Is this the clip they showed?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WjwuBYQ9PQ

    I guess it was too soulful for you, Bill. Nothing wrong with it IMO.
    Much more of a black sound than the Cooke was. I knew her, she was a
    semi-regular at Relic when I worked there. Her younger sister came in
    more than she did.

    Nope,not really for me either

    Aretha nails the femme version on this one but Sam still has THE "You
    Send Me"

    Sam's is just okay. It's a wimpy pop record if you ask me. Diane doesn't
    like it much either. I give it a low 6. It would be lower but his pretty
    voice just gets it over the line to a low 6.

    My Sam Cooke favorites:

    1. Bring It Home To Me
    2. That's Where It's At
    3. Good Times
    4. Chain Gang
    5. Another Saturday Night
    6. Twistin' The Night Away
    7. Touch The Hem Of His Garment
    8. Wonderful World
    9. Having A Party
    10. Shake
    11. Only Sixteen
    12. Sugar Dumpling
    13. Jesus Gave Me Water
    14. Cupid
    15. That's Heaven To Me
    16. Shake, Rattle And Roll
    17. Meet Me At Mary's Place
    18. Somebody Have Mercy
    19. Baby, Baby, Baby
    20. Ain't That Good News
    21. Sad Mood
    22. No One (Can Ever Take Your Place)
    23. You Send Me
    24. Nothing Can Change This Love
    25. Yeah Man

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Sep 23 10:15:40 2024
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 03:01:02 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    Director Kenny Vance

    I think I've seen this. It was okay.

    Is this the clip they showed?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WjwuBYQ9PQ

    I guess it was too soulful for you, Bill. Nothing wrong with it IMO.
    Much more of a black sound than the Cooke was.

    The Cooke version is vastly superior and *more soulful*. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU4mulO8yn8

    I knew her, she was a semi-regular at Relic when I worked there.

    This might explain your bias, Bruce.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Sep 23 10:59:24 2024
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 13:27:24 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    My Sam Cooke favorites:

    1. Bring It Home To Me
    2. That's Where It's At
    3. Good Times
    4. Chain Gang
    5. Another Saturday Night
    6. Twistin' The Night Away
    7. Touch The Hem Of His Garment
    8. Wonderful World
    9. Having A Party
    10. Shake
    11. Only Sixteen
    12. Sugar Dumpling
    13. Jesus Gave Me Water
    14. Cupid
    15. That's Heaven To Me
    16. Shake, Rattle And Roll
    17. Meet Me At Mary's Place
    18. Somebody Have Mercy
    19. Baby, Baby, Baby
    20. Ain't That Good News
    21. Sad Mood
    22. No One (Can Ever Take Your Place)
    23. You Send Me
    24. Nothing Can Change This Love
    25. Yeah Man

    Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=QZT-eU4pizI,z1q9OzZq4tM,TYoQWcb3SGg,zBn5aIfZElE,0O8m0mMDpHw,zTArYTvpLZA,xaSmjdWEK9E,R4GLAKEjU4w,M-5zlj49ugk,x6CR-u1RpWk,6aor4sATQYY,A3qgHcgY3gU,kwAHa2JT9DI,n4Rw4A7BDQA,KFDIcfD4EyM,MNwN5v02I0o,415jQbRu_DE,
    RyZ22qGf2vQ,b3elfGXJUV8,ewDfaPiw2fw,KY9Eb0tZZkA,ze1TXroMZTs,_y3VnMm53pc,4JHPTHLWubk,qk8kZ0QXP60,

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Sep 23 11:48:05 2024
    On 9/23/2024 9:27 AM, Bruce wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 12:34:16 +0000, Roger wrote:



    Aretha nails the femme version on this one but Sam still has THE "You
    Send Me"

    Sam's is just okay. It's a wimpy pop record if you ask me. Diane doesn't
    like it much either. I give it a low 6. It would be lower but his pretty voice just gets it over the line to a low 6.

    ---------------
    I do like it. More of a 7 for me.
    I detest "Yeah Man," though.

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Roger on Mon Sep 23 11:49:02 2024
    On 9/23/2024 8:34 AM, Roger wrote:


    Aretha nails the femme version on this one but Sam still has THE "You
    Send Me"------------
    Never heard Mavis Staples' version? It's pretty intense.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 23 16:09:00 2024
    What bias?

    There were lots of recording artists who came in there and some of them
    made records that sucked dick.

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to bbug on Mon Sep 23 17:24:05 2024
    On 9/23/2024 6:26 AM, bbug wrote:
    "I think I've seen this."

    It would have had to be fairly recently. It was first available for
    broadcast in June of this year.
    -----------
    Phoebe Snow was born in 1950 and died in 2011, so how is she relevant to
    the story of early vocal groups?

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Sep 24 21:53:03 2024
    On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 16:09:00 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    What bias?

    There were lots of recording artists who came in there and some of them
    made records that sucked dick.

    test post

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