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  • Re: My latest foray into countdown mania

    From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 12 14:31:23 2024
    I assume that number one is "The Twist."

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Dean on Sat Oct 12 12:53:37 2024
    On 10/12/2024 5:10 AM, Dean wrote:
    I'm currently airing a 10-week special: the Top 500 Rock & Roll Hits of
    the Oldies Era (1955-69).

    I determined the rankings myself based on the old Billboard Magazine
    singles charts. So far, I've counted down songs #500-351 in three
    separate segments. You can hear them at the links below.
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    See what you can accomplish when you stay out of those karaoke bars?!

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 12 20:14:34 2024
    So what was your formula for tabulating this list?

    Billboard published their own top singles of all time at some point and
    "The Twist" was number one. You probably are using the Whitburn short
    cut where the top songs are ranked first by how many weeks they were
    number one rather than actually giving points for each chart position
    that the record was at for each week it was on the chart. If it's done
    that way it's "The Twist," but that would be a ton of work even if you
    had access to every record's chart position for each week.

    So the Whitburn short cut would maybe produce the two sided "Hound Dog"
    and "Don't Be Cruel" at #1 for 11 weeks. If you are not counting 2
    siders and are just counting the Top 100 and the Hot 100 rather than
    also including the Jukebox and DJ charts, it could be something else. Do
    you consider the "Singing The Blues" by Guy Mitchell to be rock and
    roll? Because that one was 10 weeks.

    If "Hound Dog" and "Don't Be Cruel" are separate entities here and you
    are not counting the jukebox or DJ charts, and just the main Top 100
    chart, than "Don't Be Cruel" only has 7 weeks and "Hound Dog" only has 2
    weeks.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Dean on Sun Oct 13 22:08:42 2024
    On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 6:11:30 +0000, Dean wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:14:34 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    So what was your formula for tabulating this list?

    I created a point system based on a single's chart peak and longevity.

    A #1 hit got 100 points + 10 points for each week it peaked + one
    additional point for each week it charted.

    A #2 hit got 99 points + five points for each week it peaked + one
    additional point for each week it charted.

    A #3 hit got 98 points + three points for each week it peaked + one additional point for each week it charted.

    A #4 hit got 97 points + one additional point for each week it charted.
    For songs that made #4 and lower, I didn't bother with how many weeks it peaked.

    Here are two examples:

    HOUND DOG / DON'T BE CRUEL, Elvis Presley. #11 weeks at #1 + 28 weeks on
    the chart = 238 points.

    THE TWIST, Chubby Checker. Between its two chart runs, it was #1 for
    three weeks and spent 40 weeks on the Hot 100. Total points: 170.

    You tabulated "The Twist" wrong. It gets 100 pts. for getting to number
    pone in 1960 and then another 100 pts. for getting to number on in early
    1962. That's 200 + 30 for 3 weeks at number one + 40 for its weeks on
    the chart. 270.

    You're royally fucking the record by only giving it the initial 100
    points for getting to number one when it did that twice in 2 totally
    different runs that were over a year apart.

    If those were 2 separate unrelated records the 1960s one would get 128
    points and the second release from 1961-62 would get 142 points. 128+142
    is 270.

    They were 2 separate records with different flip sides. The song that
    was the A side on both issues should not get penalized by only getting
    the 100 points once.

    By the way, I see 39 weeks, not 40 weeks. The 1960 one was 18 weeks and
    the 1961-62 one was 21 weeks. So 269 points. There's still time to fix
    that before you get up to the top 50 in the countdown.

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