• FAVE 20 INSTRUMENTALS FROM....1963

    From Roger@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 13 09:24:34 2025
    20 FAVE INSTRUMENTAL RECORDS

    TODAY........FROM 1963

    1. MEMPHIS – LONNIE MACK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7nbZX9sa0

    My #1 instrumental for 1963 is this rockin’ guitar instrumental take on
    one
    of Chuck Berry’s best ever numbers released on the Fraternity label.Big
    US hit
    reaching #5BBpop and #4 BBr&b.. On Stateside label in UK but despite
    some
    powerful radio play missed the charts

    2. MO’ ONIONS – BOOKER T. & THE MG’S
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AXwb7GL4-4

    A second helping on those “..Onions” on Stax so well served up by Booker
    &
    co in 1962 but that sadly failed to match sales on the previous hit.
    Obviously
    I liked it a lot personally but sales were nowhere near the original
    charting at
    just #97 BBpop and missing the r&b chart completely. Not released in UK
    as 45

    3.GOOD ROCKIN’ – JR. WALKER ALL STARS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRVxGZhwdNM

    Intense instrumental from Junior that will be his last outing on the
    Harvey label.Future releases will find him on Motown’s subsidiary Soul label..Did not chart in US and not even released at the time in UK

    4. DIAMONDS – JET HARRIS & TONY MEEHAN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTn1exjSR9g

    Erstwhile Shadows members team up here on UK Decca in a Duane
    Eddy-styled
    version of the latest Jerry Lordan (who penned “Apache”) tune that
    became a huge
    UK hit scoring #1.Released on London in US but no chart action (a year
    too early
    perhaps---since the Beatles will unlock the US market to UK acts the
    next year)

    5. WATERMELON MAN – MONGO SANTAMARIA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0urg45KSqjY

    Written and first recorded by jazzman Herbie Hancock I much prefer the
    version
    by Mongo who’d been around the block a few times in the music biz from
    early
    days in the Perez Prado band. #10 BBpop and #8BBr&b on the Battle label
    in US
    released on Riverside in UK did not chart

    6. OUTER LIMITS – THE MARKETTS
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr8XPlqLp10

    Yep! That’s the original title (it only became “Out Of Limits” later). This five man outfit had started life with the catchy “Surfer’s Stomp”
    on the Union label back in 1961 before hitting big with their take on
    the “Outer Limits” sci-fi TV series (currently gracing TV screens again
    in 2025 here in UK I’m pleased to say). On Warner Bros (in US and UK)
    this was #3 US but despite getting UK airplay failed to chart here

    7. PENETRATION – THE PYRAMIDS
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bpltzpKLBw

    Five man surf band from Long Beach Ca. this was a #18 BBpop hit for them
    in
    Ventures style (which group indeed released their own version of the
    number early in 1964). The Pyramids hit appeared on Best label in US and
    London in UK.Charted in US #18 BBpop. Non-charting in UK

    8. GREEN MONKEY – GARNELL COOPER & THE KINFOLK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l1d6dqwccc

    Catchy soul instrumental on Jubilee from West Coast saxman Cooper
    produced by
    our old friends Leiber & Stoller.Didn’t chart on any of the regular
    charts in US or UK (where it came out on London getting good plays in
    the local r&b clubs)

    9. YAKETY SAX – BOOTS RANDOLPH
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1AlMLbNoDA

    For me Boots Randolph’s true moment in the sun will always be the
    absolutely
    scorching sax break in Elvis’ “Reconsider Baby” but here he revisits his own
    “Yakety Sax” first recorded in a (different) version for RCA in 1958 (as
    by “Randy Randolph”). The tune became famous as a continuing theme in “The Benny Hill Show” TV series.On Monument label charted #35BBpop #29BBr&b. On London
    label in UK did not chart

    10.DO IT-RAT NOW – BILL BLACK’S COMBO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbVuV4JUQYM

    From one star name who backed Elvis to another—Bill Black whose famous instrumental Combo on Hi records later generated a whole slew of
    hits---of which
    “Do It-Rat Now” was a prime example reaching #51 BBpop. On London UK but did not chart

    11. SO FAR AWAY – HANK JACOBS
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t5QbDmJAHU

    The r&b organist here with his biggest seller released on the Sue label
    both in USA and the UK (tho UK release was not till well into 1964).
    Charted #91 BBpop #19BBr&b. Did not chart in UK but it was another of
    those numbers hugely popular in the London r&b clubs

    12. WHAM! – LONNIE MACK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94XHMkdduV4

    Here’s our top rated artist in this selection (see #1 above)---back
    again with his direct followup to his huge “Memphis” hit---again on Fraternity (US) and Stateside (UK) Charted #24 BBpop in USA.No chart
    action in UK

    13. CROSS ROADS – LUTHER RANDOLPH & JOHNNY STILES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax35BpsUQic

    Featuring organist Randolph and guitarist Stiles a smoking r&b
    instrumental first released on the Harthon label (initiated by
    themselves) in Philadelphia before the track was picked up for national distribution by Cameo.Did not chart in either US or UK (where it
    appeared on Cameo-Parkway label)

    14. SOUTHERN FEELING – LITTLE WALTER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KQIDGxggLE

    Recorded February 5 1963 at a Chicago session that also begat “Up The Line”,”I’m
    A Business Man” and “Dead Presidents”. On Checker in US did not chart. Not released in UK

    15. CHINESE CHECKERS – BOOKER T. & THE MG’S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQacYMxWQ6s

    Moody repetitive piece beloved of the London r&b clubs I used to
    frequent in those days Released on Stax it scored #78 on the BBpop chart
    but strangely never featured on their r&b chart. Appeared on London here
    in UK but did not chart despite decent airplay

    16. SUSIE-Q – BILLY & THE KING BEES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pHIKtlDY3s

    Nice sax led instrumental workout of a long time favorite rock ‘n’ roll number of mine—Dale Hawkins’ great “Susie-Q” . I know nothing of the group here except the leader-one Billy Carson Long played sax and hailed
    from North Carolina—probably Winston-Salem since the group had a couple
    of releases on the Salem label in 1961. On Volt label in US (not issued
    in UK)

    17. BAJA – THE ASTRONAUTS
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHbcU5ArqBQ

    Formerly the Stormtroopers this five piece instrumental outfit from
    Boulder Colorado now renamed “The Astronauts” (in honor of local hero
    Scott Carpenter the second man—after John Glenn—to orbit the
    Earth)---with their minor hit on RCA. Penned by Lee Hazlewood “Baja” charted at #94 BB pop. Also on RCA in UK bit didn’t chart

    18. BIG TRAIN – BOOKER T. & THE MG’S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgShzPMgKgo

    The flipside of one of Booker T.’s poorer selling 45’s---with US sales
    low enough that UK Stax passed on releasing it. It did however establish
    itself on a popular soul music radio show of the time and of course got
    play in London’s r&b clubs and on yours truly’s turntable when he got
    hold of an US import copy of it

    19. FROG STOMP – FLOYD NEWMAN
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvBdyq6cq1c

    Floyd Newman ace baritone saxman of this parish and fully paid up member
    of the Mar-Keys on a solo effort for Stax label (with some help from pal
    Isaac Hayes on organ).The recording was used later to great effect in
    the Sopranos episode “The Happy Wanderer”. Never charted and not
    released UK

    20. ATLANTIS – THE SHADOWS
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJnXfT1v7gI

    Jerry “Apache” Lordan strikes again with another memorable melody to add
    to The Shadows library and once again take them high on the UK chart (#2
    here). It wasn’t released as a single in the US where The Shadows have
    never meant much (even in the post-’64 British Invasion period when it
    seemed anything from UK that moved shot up the BB Hot 100)

    BUBBLING UNDER

    21. GUITAR’D AND FEATHERED – DUANE EDDY
    22. SCARLETT O’HARA – JET HARRIS & TONY MEEHAN
    23. DAWN – DAVID ROCKINGHAM TRIO
    24. HOME GROWN – BOOKER T. & THE MG’S
    25. SON OF REBEL ROUSER – DUANE EDDY

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 13 20:46:58 2025
    On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 09:24:34 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
    wrote:

    20 FAVE INSTRUMENTAL RECORDS

    TODAY........FROM 1963

    YT Playlist - Roger's 20 Faves + 5 Bubbling Under: https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=Vf7nbZX9sa0,3AXwb7GL4-4,QRVxGZhwdNM,eTn1exjSR9g,0urg45KSqjY,Lr8XPlqLp10,1bpltzpKLBw,9l1d6dqwccc,R1AlMLbNoDA,dbVuV4JUQYM,1t5QbDmJAHU,94XHMkdduV4,Ax35BpsUQic,0KQIDGxggLE,lQacYMxWQ6s,3pHIKtlDY3s,UHbcU5ArqBQ,
    AgShzPMgKgo,mvBdyq6cq1c,EJnXfT1v7gI,HKMnCvrjZ_g,9-SSnOf0fTQ,KONm9KC8ftw,tfGD81yrah8,Zzz20zZN7x4,

    1. MEMPHIS LONNIE MACK

    2. MO ONIONS BOOKER T. & THE MGS

    3. GOOD ROCKIN JR. WALKER ALL STARS

    4. DIAMONDS JET HARRIS & TONY MEEHAN

    5. WATERMELON MAN MONGO SANTAMARIA

    6. OUTER LIMITS THE MARKETTS

    7. PENETRATION THE PYRAMIDS

    8. GREEN MONKEY GARNELL COOPER & THE KINFOLK

    9. YAKETY SAX BOOTS RANDOLPH

    10. DO IT-RAT NOW BILL BLACKS COMBO

    11. SO FAR AWAY HANK JACOBS

    12. WHAM! LONNIE MACK

    13. CROSS ROADS LUTHER RANDOLPH & JOHNNY STILES

    14. SOUTHERN FEELING LITTLE WALTER

    15. CHINESE CHECKERS BOOKER T. & THE MGS

    16. SUSIE-Q BILLY & THE KING BEES

    17. BAJA THE ASTRONAUTS

    18. BIG TRAIN BOOKER T. & THE MGS

    19. FROG STOMP FLOYD NEWMAN

    20. ATLANTIS THE SHADOWS

    BUBBLING UNDER:

    21. GUITARD AND FEATHERED DUANE EDDY

    22. SCARLETT OHARA JET HARRIS & TONY MEEHAN

    23. DAWN DAVID ROCKINGHAM TRIO

    24. HOME GROWN BOOKER T. & THE MGS

    25. SON OF REBEL ROUSER DUANE EDDY

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Tue Jan 14 04:18:37 2025
    On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 9:24:34 +0000, Roger wrote:

    20 FAVE INSTRUMENTAL RECORDS

    TODAY........FROM 1963

    1. MEMPHIS – LONNIE MACK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7nbZX9sa0

    My #1 instrumental for 1963 is this rockin’ guitar instrumental take on
    one > of Chuck Berry’s best ever numbers.

    Best ever numbers my bum!

    I've got it as his 27th best.

    CHUCK BERRY
    1. Roll Over Beethoven
    2. School Day
    3. Sweet Little Sixteen
    4. Around And Around
    5. Rock And Roll Music
    6. Johnny B. Goode
    7. Maybellene
    8. Too Much Monkey Business
    9. Thirty Days
    10. Back In The U.S.A.
    11. No Particular Place To Go
    12. Reelin' And Rockin'
    13. You Never Can Tell
    14. Little Queenie
    15. Let It Rock
    16. Brown-Eyed Handsome Man
    17. Carol
    18. No Money Down
    19. Run Rudolph Run
    20. You Can't Catch Me
    21. Childhood Sweetheart
    22. Almost Grown
    23. Wee Wee Hours
    24. Sweet Little Rock And Roll
    25. Go Go Go
    26. I Got To Find My Baby
    27. Memphis, Tennessee
    28. Anthony Boy
    29. Bye Bye Johnny
    30. Nadine (Is It You?)
    31. Come On
    32. I'm Talking About You
    33. Confessin' The Blues
    34. Promised Land
    35. Little Marie
    36. Jaguar And Thunderbird
    37. Oh Baby Doll
    38. Betty Jean
    39. It's My Own Business
    40. 21 Blues
    41. Go Bobby Soxer
    42. Dear Dad
    43. It Wasn't Me
    44. Brenda Lee
    45. Beautiful Delilah
    46. Down The Road Apiece
    47. Our Little Rendezvous
    48. Joe Joe Gun
    49. Don't You Lie To Me
    50. Havana Moon

    3.GOOD ROCKIN’ – JR. WALKER ALL STARS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRVxGZhwdNM

    Intense instrumental from Junior that will be his last outing on the
    Harvey label.Future releases will find him on Motown’s subsidiary Soul label..Did not chart in US and not even released at the time in UK

    FUCK ME!....I've got it in 1966 where it kicks of the "Soul Session" LP.
    Same track I'm sure, so I have to move it.

    8. GREEN MONKEY – GARNELL COOPER & THE KINFOLK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l1d6dqwccc

    Catchy soul instrumental on Jubilee from West Coast saxman Cooper
    produced by > our old friends Leiber & Stoller. Didn’t chart on any of
    the > regular charts in US or UK (where it came out on London getting
    good plays in
    the local r&b clubs)

    Never heard of this before, it's good enough to keep IMO. Thanks.

    11. SO FAR AWAY – HANK JACOBS
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t5QbDmJAHU

    The r&b organist here with his biggest seller released on the Sue label
    both in USA and the UK (tho UK release was not till well into 1964).
    Charted #91 BBpop #19BBr&b. Did not chart in UK but it was another of
    those numbers hugely popular in the London r&b clubs.

    Not big on organ stuff. Besides, it's better by the Pastels AND by
    Carole King.

    12. WHAM! – LONNIE MACK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94XHMkdduV4

    Here’s our top rated artist in this selection (see #1 above)---back
    again with his direct followup to his huge “Memphis” hit---again on Fraternity (US) and Stateside (UK) Charted #24 BBpop in USA.No chart
    action in UK

    I prefer the vocal by Lucius Tyson.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ICw1K3cak

    13. CROSS ROADS – LUTHER RANDOLPH & JOHNNY STILES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax35BpsUQic

    Featuring organist Randolph and guitarist Stiles a smoking r&b
    instrumental first released on the Harthon label (initiated by
    themselves) in Philadelphia before the track was picked up for national distribution by Cameo.Did not chart in either US or UK (where it
    appeared on Cameo-Parkway label)

    I'd like it if the lead instrument was a sax rather than an organ.

    16. SUSIE-Q – BILLY & THE KING BEES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pHIKtlDY3s

    Nice sax led instrumental workout of a long time favorite rock ‘n’ roll number of mine—Dale Hawkins’ great “Susie-Q” . I know nothing of the group here except the leader-one Billy Carson Long played sax and hailed
    from North Carolina—probably Winston-Salem since the group had a couple
    of releases on the Salem label in 1961. On Volt label in US (not issued
    in UK)

    Pretty good, did not know it. I'll keep a copy.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 14 04:23:35 2025
    Let's see what I have for '63.

    166 ¦ Java ¦ Al Hirt

    That's it. The only instrumental that made my 1963 favorites list.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Tue Jan 14 06:50:01 2025
    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 6:38:38 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:23:35 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Let's see what I have for '63.

    166 ¦ Java ¦ Al Hirt

    That's it. The only instrumental that made my 1963 favorites list.

    Never liked the tune itself by anyone even the 1958 Toussaint original

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GSJ4qO1xq8

    I think you mean Tousan.

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Jan 14 06:38:38 2025
    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:23:35 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Let's see what I have for '63.

    166 ¦ Java ¦ Al Hirt

    That's it. The only instrumental that made my 1963 favorites list.

    Never liked the tune itself by anyone even the 1958 Toussaint original

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GSJ4qO1xq8

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Jan 14 14:54:45 2025
    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 6:50:01 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 6:38:38 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:23:35 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    Let's see what I have for '63.

    166 ¦ Java ¦ Al Hirt

    That's it. The only instrumental that made my 1963 favorites list.

    Never liked the tune itself by anyone even the 1958 Toussaint original

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GSJ4qO1xq8

    I think you mean Tousan.

    That's what I said

    The "Tousan" who first recorded "Java" was Allen Toussaint

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 14 14:53:49 2025
    Leaving aside many of the records listed by Roger, here are 12 of
    my fave instrumentals from 1963:

    YT Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=FTX5rgiF1NM,y4dljMqW31g,B_I3swsOipE,nhA3XlleG-c,jgMrFxJzPH8,m4RZD0MqsfY,CXfQYRjjxvc,p38qzTRbcX0,zwhDKfjmvbU,dBURLdhmmZ8,mtPwNvjjNmQ,KlJvE0-k2H4,

    01. The Pharos - Pintor [Del-Fi 4208] - 1963

    02. Los Indios Tabajaras - Maria Elena [LP RCA 2822] - 1963

    03. Aki Aleong & The Nobles - Earthquake [LP Vee-Jay 1060] - 1963

    04. Henry Mancini - Night Train [RCA VP-2692] - 1963

    05. Johnny Fortune - Dragster [Park Avenue 130] - 1963

    06. The Lively Ones - Exodus [Del-Fi 4224] - 1963

    07. The Lively Ones - Surf Rider [Del-Fi 4196] - 1963

    08. The Moontrekkers - The Bogey Man [UK Decca F11714;b-side] - 1963

    09. The New Dimensions - Cat On A Hot Foam Board [LP Sutton 332] -
    1963

    10. The Surfaris {15 Year Old Punks From Glendora} - Wipe Out [DFS 11]
    - 1963

    11. The Surfaris - Bombora [Del-Fi 4219] - 1963

    12. The Vibrents - The Breeze And I [Bay Towne 409] - 1963

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 15 09:15:09 2025
    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:46:50 +0000, soulexpress@gmail.com (Dean)
    wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 19:53:49 +0000, RWC wrote:


    Leaving aside many of the records listed by Roger, here are 12 of
    my fave instrumentals from 1963:

    [snipped]

    Glad to know I'm not the only one in this group who likes surf
    instrumentals!

    Just as the best slow/medium tempo 50s R&B sides are movingly soulful,
    the best surf instrumentals are dreamily aspirational.

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Wed Jan 15 13:24:30 2025
    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:18:37 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 9:24:34 +0000, Roger wrote:

    20 FAVE INSTRUMENTAL RECORDS

    TODAY........FROM 1963

    1. MEMPHIS – LONNIE MACK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7nbZX9sa0

    My #1 instrumental for 1963 is this rockin’ guitar instrumental take on
    one > of Chuck Berry’s best ever numbers.

    Best ever numbers my bum!

    I've got it as his 27th best.

    Good for you but that has no bearing whatever on my opinion (why should
    it?)

    "Memphis Tennessee" = one of Chuck's best ever numbers!!

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 15 09:25:27 2025
    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:24:30 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
    wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:18:37 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 9:24:34 +0000, Roger wrote:

    20 FAVE INSTRUMENTAL RECORDS

    TODAY........FROM 1963

    1. MEMPHIS LONNIE MACK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7nbZX9sa0

    My #1 instrumental for 1963 is this rockin guitar instrumental take on
    one > of Chuck Berrys best ever numbers.

    Best ever numbers my bum!

    I've got it as his 27th best.

    Good for you but that has no bearing whatever on my opinion (why should
    it?)

    By now, we get it, Roger, nobody on planet Earth has one scintilla of
    influence on any of your opinions :-)))

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to RWC on Wed Jan 15 21:05:45 2025
    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 14:25:27 +0000, RWC wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:24:30 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
    wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:18:37 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 9:24:34 +0000, Roger wrote:

    20 FAVE INSTRUMENTAL RECORDS

    TODAY........FROM 1963

    1. MEMPHIS – LONNIE MACK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7nbZX9sa0

    My #1 instrumental for 1963 is this rockin’ guitar instrumental take on >>>> one > of Chuck Berry’s best ever numbers.

    Best ever numbers my bum!

    I've got it as his 27th best.

    Good for you but that has no bearing whatever on my opinion (why should >>it?)

    By now, we get it, Roger, nobody on planet Earth has one scintilla of influence on any of your opinions :-)))

    Least of all...............

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Wed Jan 15 23:42:24 2025
    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:24:30 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:18:37 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 9:24:34 +0000, Roger wrote:

    20 FAVE INSTRUMENTAL RECORDS

    TODAY........FROM 1963

    1. MEMPHIS – LONNIE MACK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7nbZX9sa0

    My #1 instrumental for 1963 is this rockin’ guitar instrumental take on >>> one > of Chuck Berry’s best ever numbers.

    Best ever numbers my bum!

    I've got it as his 27th best.

    Good for you but that has no bearing whatever on my opinion (why should
    it?)

    "Memphis Tennessee" = one of Chuck's best ever numbers!!

    Why?

    It certainly doesn't rock. Have you become a lyrics man or something.

    There's nothing special about the musicianship. It barely has a beat.
    What makes that record so good to you?

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 15 22:41:26 2025
    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 21:05:45 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
    wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 14:25:27 +0000, RWC wrote:

    By now, we get it, Roger, nobody on planet Earth has one scintilla of
    influence on any of your opinions :-)))

    Least of all...............

    your enemies are my enemies, Don Ruggero

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Jan 16 06:57:36 2025
    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 23:42:24 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:24:30 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:18:37 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 9:24:34 +0000, Roger wrote:

    20 FAVE INSTRUMENTAL RECORDS

    TODAY........FROM 1963

    1. MEMPHIS – LONNIE MACK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7nbZX9sa0

    My #1 instrumental for 1963 is this rockin’ guitar instrumental take on >>>> one > of Chuck Berry’s best ever numbers.

    Best ever numbers my bum!

    I've got it as his 27th best.

    Good for you but that has no bearing whatever on my opinion (why should
    it?)

    "Memphis Tennessee" = one of Chuck's best ever numbers!!

    Why?

    It certainly doesn't rock. Have you become a lyrics man or something.

    There's nothing special about the musicianship. It barely has a beat.
    What makes that record so good to you?

    You've answered your own question.

    Okay...to explain (yet again...how many times do I have to write this?)

    I have always maintained on here that lyrics don't normally mean much to
    me especially since the lyrics to most 50's rock 'n' roll and pop
    records are
    pretty banal. But there are exceptions (as I've pointed out time and
    again)---
    a few examples off the top of my head---the best of Leiber & Stoller,Joe Turner's "Shake Rattle And Roll" (example "...wearin'those dresses the
    sun shining thru..I can't believe my eyes all of this belongs to you").

    Then there's something like Eddie Cochran's "Summertime Blues" with
    masterly lines like "I called my congressman And he said, quote "I'd
    like to help you son But you're too young to vote"

    And then near the very top of the tree there is Chuck Berry...........

    In my book "Memphis Tennessee" is one of his very best structured,well
    thought out and excellently presented songs

    Which is what I think I said in the first place

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Thu Jan 16 14:01:24 2025
    On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 6:57:36 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 23:42:24 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:24:30 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:18:37 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 9:24:34 +0000, Roger wrote:

    20 FAVE INSTRUMENTAL RECORDS

    TODAY........FROM 1963

    1. MEMPHIS – LONNIE MACK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7nbZX9sa0

    My #1 instrumental for 1963 is this rockin’ guitar instrumental take on >>>>> one > of Chuck Berry’s best ever numbers.

    Best ever numbers my bum!

    I've got it as his 27th best.

    Good for you but that has no bearing whatever on my opinion (why should
    it?)

    "Memphis Tennessee" = one of Chuck's best ever numbers!!

    Why?

    It certainly doesn't rock. Have you become a lyrics man or something.

    There's nothing special about the musicianship. It barely has a beat.
    What makes that record so good to you?

    You've answered your own question.

    Okay...to explain (yet again...how many times do I have to write this?)

    I have always maintained on here that lyrics don't normally mean much to
    me especially since the lyrics to most 50's rock 'n' roll and pop
    records are
    pretty banal. But there are exceptions (as I've pointed out time and again)---
    a few examples off the top of my head---the best of Leiber & Stoller,Joe Turner's "Shake Rattle And Roll" (example "...wearin'those dresses the
    sun shining thru..I can't believe my eyes all of this belongs to you").

    Then there's something like Eddie Cochran's "Summertime Blues" with
    masterly lines like "I called my congressman And he said, quote "I'd
    like to help you son But you're too young to vote"

    And then near the very top of the tree there is Chuck Berry...........

    In my book "Memphis Tennessee" is one of his very best structured, well thought out and excellently presented songs

    Which is what I think I said in the first place

    So lyrics do sometimes have a lot of influence on your opinion on a
    recording. Did you ever wonder why virtually every other version of the
    song is done at a much faster tempo than the way that Chuck did it? I
    think that could be the main reason why Chuck's version bombed in 1959,
    failing to chart Pop or R&B here. Unless you really focus on lyrics and
    like what they are here, it's really a boring musical piece. Nothing to
    get excited about IMO. Eve Chuck admitted years later that it was
    "Johnny Rovers' song now." Johnny's much more exciting take on the
    number went all the way to #2 Pop on BB. This of course thrilled Chuck,
    as the royalty checks kept coming from Johnny's version and Lonnie
    Mack's version. Then come nice checks came in from the Presley version
    on "Elvis For Everyone," which also was done in a much faster tempo than Chuck's sedate version.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3R_MzNb06E

    Of course there were many other versions on albums that also made money
    for Chuck. Obviously a very well written song, but the arrangement and
    tempo were bad decisions by Chuck, and whoever else may have been
    involved in that at the time that he recorded it. It could have been a
    big hit for Chuck if he had performed it as a rocker.

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  • From bbug@21:1/5 to Roger on Thu Jan 16 15:58:13 2025
    Roger wrote:

    I have always maintained on here that lyrics don't normally mean much to
    me especially since the lyrics to most 50's rock 'n' roll and pop
    records are
    pretty banal. But there are exceptions (as I've pointed out time and again)---
    a few examples off the top of my head---the best of Leiber & Stoller,Joe Turner's "Shake Rattle And Roll" (example "...wearin'those dresses the
    sun shining thru..I can't believe my eyes all of this belongs to you").

    Then there's something like Eddie Cochran's "Summertime Blues" with
    masterly lines like "I called my congressman And he said, quote "I'd
    like to help you son But you're too young to vote"

    And then near the very top of the tree there is Chuck Berry...........

    In my book "Memphis Tennessee" is one of his very best structured,well thought out and excellently presented songs

    Which is what I think I said in the first place

    And Mark commented:
    Amen

    I remember, Mark, when you thought the song was about a young boy trying
    to reach his sister and not about a father trying to reach his daughter.

    How have you been? it's been a while since either of us were heard here.

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 16 15:19:04 2025
    On Jan 16, 2025 at 12:57:36 AM CST, "Roger" <Roger> wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 23:42:24 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:24:30 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:18:37 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 9:24:34 +0000, Roger wrote:

    20 FAVE INSTRUMENTAL RECORDS

    TODAY........FROM 1963

    1. MEMPHIS – LONNIE MACK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7nbZX9sa0

    My #1 instrumental for 1963 is this rockin’ guitar instrumental take on >>>>> one > of Chuck Berry’s best ever numbers.

    Best ever numbers my bum!

    I've got it as his 27th best.

    Good for you but that has no bearing whatever on my opinion (why should
    it?)

    "Memphis Tennessee" = one of Chuck's best ever numbers!!

    Why?

    It certainly doesn't rock. Have you become a lyrics man or something.

    There's nothing special about the musicianship. It barely has a beat.
    What makes that record so good to you?

    You've answered your own question.

    Okay...to explain (yet again...how many times do I have to write this?)

    I have always maintained on here that lyrics don't normally mean much to
    me especially since the lyrics to most 50's rock 'n' roll and pop
    records are
    pretty banal. But there are exceptions (as I've pointed out time and again)---
    a few examples off the top of my head---the best of Leiber & Stoller,Joe Turner's "Shake Rattle And Roll" (example "...wearin'those dresses the
    sun shining thru..I can't believe my eyes all of this belongs to you").

    Then there's something like Eddie Cochran's "Summertime Blues" with
    masterly lines like "I called my congressman And he said, quote "I'd
    like to help you son But you're too young to vote"

    And then near the very top of the tree there is Chuck Berry...........

    In my book "Memphis Tennessee" is one of his very best structured,well thought out and excellently presented songs

    Which is what I think I said in the first place

    Amen

    --md

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Jan 16 21:09:13 2025
    On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 14:01:24 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 6:57:36 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 23:42:24 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 13:24:30 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:18:37 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 9:24:34 +0000, Roger wrote:

    20 FAVE INSTRUMENTAL RECORDS

    TODAY........FROM 1963

    1. MEMPHIS – LONNIE MACK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7nbZX9sa0

    My #1 instrumental for 1963 is this rockin’ guitar instrumental take on
    one > of Chuck Berry’s best ever numbers.

    It could have been a big hit for Chuck if he had performed it as a
    rocker.

    It WAS a big hit for Chuck. #8 here in UK on reissue in 1963

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 16 22:59:06 2025
    On Jan 16, 2025 at 9:58:13 AM CST, "bbug" <bbug> wrote:

    Roger wrote:

    I have always maintained on here that lyrics don't normally mean much to
    me especially since the lyrics to most 50's rock 'n' roll and pop
    records are
    pretty banal. But there are exceptions (as I've pointed out time and
    again)---
    a few examples off the top of my head---the best of Leiber & Stoller,Joe
    Turner's "Shake Rattle And Roll" (example "...wearin'those dresses the
    sun shining thru..I can't believe my eyes all of this belongs to you").

    Then there's something like Eddie Cochran's "Summertime Blues" with
    masterly lines like "I called my congressman And he said, quote "I'd
    like to help you son But you're too young to vote"

    And then near the very top of the tree there is Chuck Berry...........

    In my book "Memphis Tennessee" is one of his very best structured,well
    thought out and excellently presented songs

    Which is what I think I said in the first place

    And Mark commented:
    Amen

    I remember, Mark, when you thought the song was about a young boy trying
    to reach his sister and not about a father trying to reach his daughter.

    How have you been? it's been a while since either of us were heard here.

    I'm fine, thank you. How are you?

    Never thought a sister was involved. But I had misinterpreted the narrative until I learned better here--along with a heckuva a lot of other things.

    --md

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  • From bbug@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 17 11:14:14 2025
    How have you been? it's been a while since either of us were heard here.

    I'm fine, thank you. How are you?

    Not so fine. I guess I've been waiting to disclose my troubles and took
    this opportunity to do s.

    Recently back from an eight day emergency hospital stay. I was
    projectile vomiting anything I put in my mouth, so they kept me from
    food or water for four days. Do you know how parched you get in four
    days without any food or water?

    Anyway, it turned out there was an intestinal blockage caused by a
    hiatal hernia, which had allowed most of my stomach to relocate into my
    lungs. The pumping of my stomach involved insertion of a tube through my
    nose. This was not a big deal. I've had it done before. But the
    subsequent actions of an incompetent doctor was. He readjusted the tube
    over and over with accompanying great pain and even took it out and
    reinserted it three times to even greater pain. I thought I was going to
    die and didn't even care.
    My cardiologist wants to do laparoscopic surgery to properly relocate my stomach, but I decided to wait and see what happens. That strategy
    worked splendidly when I was told I needed a colostomy bag and declined
    to my nurses, doctors and family advice. I even checked myself out of
    the hospital because it wouldn't discharge me.

    Four years later, my urinary function is fine.

    Happy to end my rant on a positive note. Next time, be careful of what
    you ask. ;-)

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 17 14:43:03 2025
    On Jan 17, 2025 at 5:14:14 AM CST, "bbug" <bbug> wrote:

    How have you been? it's been a while since either of us were heard here.

    I'm fine, thank you. How are you?

    Not so fine. I guess I've been waiting to disclose my troubles and took
    this opportunity to do s.

    Recently back from an eight day emergency hospital stay. I was
    projectile vomiting anything I put in my mouth, so they kept me from
    food or water for four days. Do you know how parched you get in four
    days without any food or water?

    Anyway, it turned out there was an intestinal blockage caused by a
    hiatal hernia, which had allowed most of my stomach to relocate into my lungs. The pumping of my stomach involved insertion of a tube through my nose. This was not a big deal. I've had it done before. But the
    subsequent actions of an incompetent doctor was. He readjusted the tube
    over and over with accompanying great pain and even took it out and reinserted it three times to even greater pain. I thought I was going to
    die and didn't even care.
    My cardiologist wants to do laparoscopic surgery to properly relocate my stomach, but I decided to wait and see what happens. That strategy
    worked splendidly when I was told I needed a colostomy bag and declined
    to my nurses, doctors and family advice. I even checked myself out of
    the hospital because it wouldn't discharge me.

    Four years later, my urinary function is fine.

    Happy to end my rant on a positive note. Next time, be careful of what
    you ask. ;-)

    Sorry you've been through all that. I'm in decent shape, but I figure my turn will be coming soon enough. As they say, old age isn't for sissies.

    --md

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  • From bbug@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 17 14:55:31 2025
    I said:
    it turned out there was an intestinal blockage caused by a
    hiatal hernia, which had allowed most of my stomach to relocate into my lungs.

    I should have said relocate into my chest, where it is pressing against
    the lungs.

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