On 8/28/2018 4:18 PM, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:defies belief that people here actually believe what they post.
On 8/28/2018 2:55 PM, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
I've never heard such pompous bullshit as has appeared in this thread. Written by known right wing self satisfied personnae, it demonstrates 'truths' only they believe is really true.And what you say is what you, apparently, believe is really true. So
we're even.
The reality is far far different. The mass distribution of wealth to an ever dwindling minute percentage, overrides the odd examples of an individual, getting lucky and overcoming an inertia of actually moving upwards, and which is so great it
tariffs, and who have an obvious dislike of being seen to condemn the Nazi-type elements who in their abject misery vote for an infant-man now residing in the White House.
-The research disagrees with you leftist -dogma.
The word 'research' is clearly demeaned outside of a scientific context.
I'm talking about peer reviewed research by economists, not something
from the National Enquirer, or even the Economist.
Trump is actually a result of the powerful suppressing the truth, promoted by the likes of Fox BS, gangsters like Murdoch, and the excesses of Wall Street. It is Trump and other warts on society that talk of walls, restricted free trade by using
-You can not goad me into defending Trump.
Trump is merely the idiot promoted by the populist power players as mentioned above. Nobody of any intelligence can defend an idiot. How about mentioning his promoters?
You can not goad me into defending his promoters.
The Holocaust, and other world horrors, are the results for all to see and for those who should know better, to ignore in their pitiable self-satisfied smugness. Once again. All is forgotten. Ever onwards.
-Never again!
We agree. How extraordinary.
By speaking about and not forgetting it (i.e. ever onwards) we reduce
the chance of it happening again.
Real freedom is not the freedoms espoused by the right wing. Real freedom is something they wouldn't know about.
government have enacted.One example of 'freedom' resides in Australia, where it is now not possible to freely demonstrate, not possible to report the abuses in Manus and Nauru, and other restrictions only a rabid mob of right wing extremists in our so-called 'Lieberal'
-I don't call that freedom any more than -you do. Did you think I would?
No. But once again, you fail to address the question of why these freedoms are curtailed.
Because power corrupts.......
The question is what form of government minimizes the amount of or
effect of corruption. Certainly not socialism/communism. That just concentrates power in the hands of the Party elite. Even if Capitalism results in concentration of power in the hands of an economic elite, is
that worse?
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 2:05:54 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:defies belief that people here actually believe what they post.
On 8/28/2018 4:18 PM, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/28/2018 2:55 PM, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
I've never heard such pompous bullshit as has appeared in this thread. Written by known right wing self satisfied personnae, it demonstrates 'truths' only they believe is really true.And what you say is what you, apparently, believe is really true. So we're even.
The reality is far far different. The mass distribution of wealth to an ever dwindling minute percentage, overrides the odd examples of an individual, getting lucky and overcoming an inertia of actually moving upwards, and which is so great it
tariffs, and who have an obvious dislike of being seen to condemn the Nazi-type elements who in their abject misery vote for an infant-man now residing in the White House.
-The research disagrees with you leftist -dogma.
The word 'research' is clearly demeaned outside of a scientific context.
I'm talking about peer reviewed research by economists, not something
from the National Enquirer, or even the Economist.
Trump is actually a result of the powerful suppressing the truth, promoted by the likes of Fox BS, gangsters like Murdoch, and the excesses of Wall Street. It is Trump and other warts on society that talk of walls, restricted free trade by using
-You can not goad me into defending Trump.
Trump is merely the idiot promoted by the populist power players as mentioned above. Nobody of any intelligence can defend an idiot. How about mentioning his promoters?
You can not goad me into defending his promoters.
The Holocaust, and other world horrors, are the results for all to see and for those who should know better, to ignore in their pitiable self-satisfied smugness. Once again. All is forgotten. Ever onwards.
-Never again!
We agree. How extraordinary.
By speaking about and not forgetting it (i.e. ever onwards) we reduce
the chance of it happening again.
Real freedom is not the freedoms espoused by the right wing. Real freedom is something they wouldn't know about.
government have enacted.One example of 'freedom' resides in Australia, where it is now not possible to freely demonstrate, not possible to report the abuses in Manus and Nauru, and other restrictions only a rabid mob of right wing extremists in our so-called 'Lieberal'
-I don't call that freedom any more than -you do. Did you think I would?
No. But once again, you fail to address the question of why these freedoms are curtailed.
Because power corrupts.......
The question is what form of government minimizes the amount of or
effect of corruption. Certainly not socialism/communism. That just concentrates power in the hands of the Party elite. Even if Capitalism results in concentration of power in the hands of an economic elite, is that worse?
The only scholarly articles worth reading are scientific ones,
where in The fields of technology, medicine, work is done
to promote the Wellbeing of the most. Not for nothing is it
surprising that science is so despised by the right wing.
--The right wing attacks elites, the left wing attacks the
-- masses.
From where did you rake up the above drivel? Fox News?
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-7, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
The only scholarly articles worth reading are scientific ones,
You do not advise reading any record reviews ?!? ;-)
where in The fields of technology, medicine, work is done
to promote the Wellbeing of the most. Not for nothing is it
surprising that science is so despised by the right wing.
Obviously people who follow the Bible, the Talmud or the
Quran have no need or use for science, since everything
was designed and decided by some deity. Womdering
what "God" thinks about software, AI/ML, and ChatGPT.
--The right wing attacks elites, the left wing attacks the
-- masses.
From where did you rake up the above drivel? Fox News?
Sounds like a quote from Oscar.
dk
On 2/4/2023 8:51 PM, Dan Koren wrote:something like most orthodox Jews reject science is ridiculous. And ignorant.
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-7, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
The only scholarly articles worth reading are scientific ones,
You do not advise reading any record reviews ?!? ;-)
where in The fields of technology, medicine, work is done
to promote the Wellbeing of the most. Not for nothing is it
surprising that science is so despised by the right wing.
Obviously people who follow the Bible, the Talmud or the
Quran have no need or use for science, since everything
was designed and decided by some deity. Womdering
what "God" thinks about software, AI/ML, and ChatGPT.
--The right wing attacks elites, the left wing attacks the
-- masses.
From where did you rake up the above drivel? Fox News?
Sounds like a quote from Oscar.
dkExcept the characterizations are absurd. There are plenty of observant Jews and Muslims who are scientists. I am a member of an orthodox community in Baltimore. Sure there are morons among orthodox Jews as there are among all groups. But to say
On Sunday, 5 February 2023 at 13:20:53 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:something like most orthodox Jews reject science is ridiculous. And ignorant.
On 2/4/2023 8:51 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-7, raymond....gmail.com wrote:Except the characterizations are absurd. There are plenty of observant Jews and Muslims who are scientists. I am a member of an orthodox community in Baltimore. Sure there are morons among orthodox Jews as there are among all groups. But to say
The only scholarly articles worth reading are scientific ones,
You do not advise reading any record reviews ?!? ;-)
where in The fields of technology, medicine, work is done
to promote the Wellbeing of the most. Not for nothing is it
surprising that science is so despised by the right wing.
Obviously people who follow the Bible, the Talmud or the
Quran have no need or use for science, since everything
was designed and decided by some deity. Womdering
what "God" thinks about software, AI/ML, and ChatGPT.
--The right wing attacks elites, the left wing attacks the
-- masses.
From where did you rake up the above drivel? Fox News?
Sounds like a quote from Oscar.
dk
Who then has said this?
Ray Hall, Taree
On 2/4/2023 10:14 PM, raymond....gmail.com wrote:I may well have said this.
On Sunday, 5 February 2023 at 13:20:53 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/4/2023 8:51 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-7, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
The only scholarly articles worth reading are scientific ones,
WHO SAID THIS ??????????You do not advise reading any record reviews ?!? ;-)
where in The fields of technology, medicine, work is done
to promote the Wellbeing of the most. Not for nothing is it
surprising that science is so despised by the right wing.
WHO SAID THIS ??????????
Obviously people who follow the Bible, the Talmud or the
Quran have no need or use for science, since everything
was designed and decided by some deity. Womdering
what "God" thinks about software, AI/ML, and ChatGPT.
something like most orthodox Jews reject science is ridiculous. And ignorant.Except the characterizations are absurd. There are plenty of observant Jews and Muslims who are scientists. I am a member of an orthodox community in Baltimore. Sure there are morons among orthodox Jews as there are among all groups. But to say
--The right wing attacks elites, the left wing attacks the
-- masses.
From where did you rake up the above drivel? Fox News?
Sounds like a quote from Oscar.
dk
Who then has said this?
Ray Hall, TareeI paraphrased you. If you want to say "reject science" is different than "have no use for science," fine. My point stands.
On Sunday, 5 February 2023 at 16:09:02 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:something like most orthodox Jews reject science is ridiculous. And ignorant. >>>
On 2/4/2023 10:14 PM, raymond....gmail.com wrote:I may well have said this.
On Sunday, 5 February 2023 at 13:20:53 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/4/2023 8:51 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-7, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
The only scholarly articles worth reading are scientific ones,
WHO SAID THIS ??????????You do not advise reading any record reviews ?!? ;-)
where in The fields of technology, medicine, work is done
to promote the Wellbeing of the most. Not for nothing is it
surprising that science is so despised by the right wing.
WHO SAID THIS ??????????
Obviously people who follow the Bible, the Talmud or the
Quran have no need or use for science, since everything
was designed and decided by some deity. Womdering
what "God" thinks about software, AI/ML, and ChatGPT.
Except the characterizations are absurd. There are plenty of observant Jews and Muslims who are scientists. I am a member of an orthodox community in Baltimore. Sure there are morons among orthodox Jews as there are among all groups. But to say
--The right wing attacks elites, the left wing attacks the
-- masses.
From where did you rake up the above drivel? Fox News?
Sounds like a quote from Oscar.
dk
Who then has said this?I paraphrased you. If you want to say "reject science" is different than "have no use for science," fine. My point stands.
Ray Hall, Taree
You have made no point. All you have done is drag a previous post of mine, whilst replying to someone else, and create a lie. What a sick and perverted bastard you are. A piece of pure excrement.
From now on, unless I get an apology, I will drag previous comments from any one of your posts, and reply accordingly, whether you are aware or not, at any time, whenever I choose.
Your choice.
As for science, you are too thick to understand even the basics.
Ray Hall, Taree
On 2/5/2023 12:34 AM, raymond....gmail.com wrote:something like most orthodox Jews reject science is ridiculous. And ignorant.
On Sunday, 5 February 2023 at 16:09:02 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/4/2023 10:14 PM, raymond....gmail.com wrote:I may well have said this.
On Sunday, 5 February 2023 at 13:20:53 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/4/2023 8:51 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-7, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
The only scholarly articles worth reading are scientific ones,
WHO SAID THIS ??????????You do not advise reading any record reviews ?!? ;-)
where in The fields of technology, medicine, work is done
to promote the Wellbeing of the most. Not for nothing is it
surprising that science is so despised by the right wing.
WHO SAID THIS ??????????
Obviously people who follow the Bible, the Talmud or the
Quran have no need or use for science, since everything
was designed and decided by some deity. Womdering
what "God" thinks about software, AI/ML, and ChatGPT.
Except the characterizations are absurd. There are plenty of observant Jews and Muslims who are scientists. I am a member of an orthodox community in Baltimore. Sure there are morons among orthodox Jews as there are among all groups. But to say
--The right wing attacks elites, the left wing attacks the
-- masses.
From where did you rake up the above drivel? Fox News?
Sounds like a quote from Oscar.
dk
I paraphrased you. If you want to say "reject science" is different than "have no use for science," fine. My point stands.
Who then has said this?
Ray Hall, Taree
You have made no point. All you have done is drag a previous post of mine, whilst replying to someone else, and create a lie. What a sick and perverted bastard you are. A piece of pure excrement.
From now on, unless I get an apology, I will drag previous comments from any one of your posts, and reply accordingly, whether you are aware or not, at any time, whenever I choose.
Your choice.
As for science, you are too thick to understand even the basics.
Ray Hall, TareeDo you really think this response is appropriate for an honest mistake? I attributed something Dan said to you by mistake. This makes me excrement? I made a mistake. You are the nastiest person I've ever encountered. An apology is not necessary.
On Monday, 6 February 2023 at 00:26:41 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:something like most orthodox Jews reject science is ridiculous. And ignorant. >>>>>
On 2/5/2023 12:34 AM, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2023 at 16:09:02 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/4/2023 10:14 PM, raymond....gmail.com wrote:I may well have said this.
On Sunday, 5 February 2023 at 13:20:53 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/4/2023 8:51 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-7, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
The only scholarly articles worth reading are scientific ones,
WHO SAID THIS ??????????You do not advise reading any record reviews ?!? ;-)
where in The fields of technology, medicine, work is done
to promote the Wellbeing of the most. Not for nothing is it
surprising that science is so despised by the right wing.
WHO SAID THIS ??????????
Obviously people who follow the Bible, the Talmud or the
Quran have no need or use for science, since everything
was designed and decided by some deity. Womdering
what "God" thinks about software, AI/ML, and ChatGPT.
Except the characterizations are absurd. There are plenty of observant Jews and Muslims who are scientists. I am a member of an orthodox community in Baltimore. Sure there are morons among orthodox Jews as there are among all groups. But to say
--The right wing attacks elites, the left wing attacks the
-- masses.
From where did you rake up the above drivel? Fox News?
Sounds like a quote from Oscar.
dk
Do you really think this response is appropriate for an honest mistake? I attributed something Dan said to you by mistake. This makes me excrement? I made a mistake. You are the nastiest person I've ever encountered. An apology is not necessary.Who then has said this?I paraphrased you. If you want to say "reject science" is different than "have no use for science," fine. My point stands.
Ray Hall, Taree
You have made no point. All you have done is drag a previous post of mine, whilst replying to someone else, and create a lie. What a sick and perverted bastard you are. A piece of pure excrement.
From now on, unless I get an apology, I will drag previous comments from any one of your posts, and reply accordingly, whether you are aware or not, at any time, whenever I choose.
Your choice.
As for science, you are too thick to understand even the basics.
Ray Hall, Taree
You were quick to say you had proved your point, whatever that was, when I questioned you about it.
Ray Hall, Taree
On 2/5/2023 7:13 PM, raymond....gmail.com wrote:something like most orthodox Jews reject science is ridiculous. And ignorant.
On Monday, 6 February 2023 at 00:26:41 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/5/2023 12:34 AM, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2023 at 16:09:02 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/4/2023 10:14 PM, raymond....gmail.com wrote:I may well have said this.
On Sunday, 5 February 2023 at 13:20:53 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote: >>>>>> On 2/4/2023 8:51 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-7, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
The only scholarly articles worth reading are scientific ones,
WHO SAID THIS ??????????You do not advise reading any record reviews ?!? ;-)
where in The fields of technology, medicine, work is done
to promote the Wellbeing of the most. Not for nothing is it >>>>>>>> surprising that science is so despised by the right wing.
WHO SAID THIS ??????????
Obviously people who follow the Bible, the Talmud or the
Quran have no need or use for science, since everything
was designed and decided by some deity. Womdering
what "God" thinks about software, AI/ML, and ChatGPT.
Except the characterizations are absurd. There are plenty of observant Jews and Muslims who are scientists. I am a member of an orthodox community in Baltimore. Sure there are morons among orthodox Jews as there are among all groups. But to say
--The right wing attacks elites, the left wing attacks the
-- masses.
From where did you rake up the above drivel? Fox News?
Sounds like a quote from Oscar.
dk
Do you really think this response is appropriate for an honest mistake? I attributed something Dan said to you by mistake. This makes me excrement? I made a mistake. You are the nastiest person I've ever encountered. An apology is not necessary.I paraphrased you. If you want to say "reject science" is different than "have no use for science," fine. My point stands.
Who then has said this?
Ray Hall, Taree
You have made no point. All you have done is drag a previous post of mine, whilst replying to someone else, and create a lie. What a sick and perverted bastard you are. A piece of pure excrement.
From now on, unless I get an apology, I will drag previous comments from any one of your posts, and reply accordingly, whether you are aware or not, at any time, whenever I choose.
Your choice.
As for science, you are too thick to understand even the basics.
Ray Hall, Taree
You were quick to say you had proved your point, whatever that was, when I questioned you about it.What part of mistake did you not understand?
I think I am entitled to explode when text is being used carelessly, and accusations made, in a thread I am not even participating in. I therefore lost it. Mea culpa.
If that is an apology, I accept.
If a person should apologize for making an honest mistake (I always wondered about that), then I apologize.
You're blaming Frank for what Dan posted.
On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 1:15:55 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
You're blaming Frank for what Dan posted.
Why not? This sounds fair to me! ;-)
dk
On Sunday, 5 February 2023 at 16:09:02 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/4/2023 10:14 PM, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, 5 February 2023 at 13:20:53 UTC+11, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/4/2023 8:51 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-7, raymond....gmail.com wrote:
I may well have said this.The only scholarly articles worth reading are scientific ones,
You do not advise reading any record reviews ?!? ;-)
WHO SAID THIS ??????????where in The fields of technology, medicine, work is done
to promote the Wellbeing of the most. Not for nothing is it surprising that science is so despised by the right wing.
WHO SAID THIS ??????????Obviously people who follow the Bible, the Talmud or the
Quran have no need or use for science, since everything
was designed and decided by some deity. Womdering
what "God" thinks about software, AI/ML, and ChatGPT.
something like most orthodox Jews reject science is ridiculous. And ignorant.--The right wing attacks elites, the left wing attacks the
-- masses.
From where did you rake up the above drivel? Fox News?
Sounds like a quote from Oscar.
dkExcept the characterizations are absurd. There are plenty of observant Jews and Muslims who are scientists. I am a member of an orthodox community in Baltimore. Sure there are morons among orthodox Jews as there are among all groups. But to say
Who then has said this?
Ray Hall, TareeI paraphrased you. If you want to say "reject science" is different than "have no use for science," fine. My point stands.
You have made no point. All you have done is drag a previous post of mine, whilst replying to someone else, and create a lie. What a sick and perverted bastard you are. A piece of pure excrement.
From now on, unless I get an apology, I will drag previous comments from any one of your posts, and reply accordingly, whether you are aware or not, at any time, whenever I choose.
Your choice.
As for science, you are too thick to understand even the basics.
On 2/6/2023 4:17 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 1:15:55 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
You're blaming Frank for what Dan posted.
Why not? This sounds fair to me! ;-)
I'm confused.
On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 2:15:06 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/6/2023 4:17 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 1:15:55 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
You're blaming Frank for what Dan posted.
Why not? This sounds fair to me! ;-)
I'm confused.
You mean you won't accept
blame for my posts ?!? ;-)
dk
On 2/4/2023 8:51 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-7, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
The only scholarly articles worth reading are scientific ones,
You do not advise reading any record reviews ?!? ;-)
where in The fields of technology, medicine, work is done
to promote the Wellbeing of the most. Not for nothing is it
surprising that science is so despised by the right wing.
Obviously people who follow the Bible, the Talmud or the
Quran have no need or use for science, since everything
was designed and decided by some deity. Womdering
what "God" thinks about software, AI/ML, and ChatGPT.
--The right wing attacks elites, the left wing attacks the
-- masses.
From where did you rake up the above drivel? Fox News?
Sounds like a quote from Oscar.
Except the characterizations are absurd.
There are plenty of observant Jews and
Muslims who are scientists.
I am a member of an orthodox community
in Baltimore.
Sure there are morons among orthodox
Jews as there are among all groups.
But to say something like most orthodox
Jews reject science is ridiculous.
And ignorant.
On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 6:20:53 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/4/2023 8:51 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 3:10:04 PM UTC-7, raymond....@gmail.com wrote:
The only scholarly articles worth reading are scientific ones,
You do not advise reading any record reviews ?!? ;-)
where in The fields of technology, medicine, work is done
to promote the Wellbeing of the most. Not for nothing is it
surprising that science is so despised by the right wing.
Obviously people who follow the Bible, the Talmud or the
Quran have no need or use for science, since everything
was designed and decided by some deity. Womdering
what "God" thinks about software, AI/ML, and ChatGPT.
--The right wing attacks elites, the left wing attacks the
-- masses.
From where did you rake up the above drivel? Fox News?
Sounds like a quote from Oscar.
Except the characterizations are absurd.
Yes indeed. I picked this inclination from
Joyce and Beckett.
There are plenty of observant Jews and
Muslims who are scientists.
The interesting question is whether their
religion interferes with their science -- or
viceversa.
I am a member of an orthodox community
in Baltimore.
Congrats! May you enjoy it to 120!
Sure there are morons among orthodox
Jews as there are among all groups.
The morons among other groups do not
bother me as much as our co-nationals.
But to say something like most orthodox
Jews reject science is ridiculous.
They do reject *some* of the science.
And ignorant.
What else could one expect from a
physicist and a software developer? ;-)
Check this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMBQwGzn_TE
dk
On 2/7/2023 4:21 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 6:20:53 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
But to say something like most orthodox
Jews reject science is ridiculous.
They do reject *some* of the science.
Again, an incorrect generalization. Many
orthodox Jews compartmentalize science
vs. religion. They believe the Creation science
stories at the same time, some trying to rationalize
them and some not caring.
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:50:45 AM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/7/2023 4:21 AM, Dan Koren wrote:Can you explain the scientific basis for not
On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 6:20:53 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
But to say something like most orthodox
Jews reject science is ridiculous.
eating eating pork (so delicious!) and for
not mixing meat and dairy? What is wrong
with Philly burgers from a scientific point of
view -- besides the fact they taste horriblyl
and the cheese melts and drips all over?
They do reject *some* of the science.
Again, an incorrect generalization. ManyYes they do, but the real question is to what
orthodox Jews compartmentalize science
vs. religion. They believe the Creation science
stories at the same time, some trying to rationalize
them and some not caring.
extent such compartmentalization can be
effective in preventing bias. Einstein was
famously not comfortabe with quantum
mechanics and his argument was "God
does not play dice". Get the idea?
dk
I deplore their attempts to deride religion, a
comfort for zillions of people over eons of time.
In article <a3388721-5f67-4467-a240-4248592cc3ban@googlegroups.com>, raymond....@gmail.com <raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com> wrote:
Richard Dawkins and Krauss both represent science very badly with
their pathetic attempts to deride religion.
Dawkins is a real jerk (& his ideas are stupid too).
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:50:45 AM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/7/2023 4:21 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 6:20:53 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
But to say something like most orthodox
Jews reject science is ridiculous.
Can you explain the scientific basis for not
eating eating pork (so delicious!) and for
not mixing meat and dairy? What is wrong
with Philly burgers from a scientific point of
view -- besides the fact they taste horriblyl
and the cheese melts and drips all over?
They do reject *some* of the science.
Again, an incorrect generalization. Many
orthodox Jews compartmentalize science
vs. religion. They believe the Creation science
stories at the same time, some trying to rationalize
them and some not caring.
Yes they do, but the real question is to what
extent such compartmentalization can be
effective in preventing bias.
famously not comfortabe with quantum
mechanics and his argument was "God
does not play dice". Get the idea?
dk
Richard Dawkins and Krauss both represent science very badly with
their pathetic attempts to deride religion.
Really? Which ones?
Really? Which ones?
Op dinsdag 7 februari 2023 om 23:52:05 UTC+1 schreef Graham:
Really? Which ones?
As an orthodox atheist, Dawkins makes the same mistake as orthodox theists. They do not differentiate between ways of being.
Henk
On 2/7/2023 6:28 PM, HT wrote:
Op dinsdag 7 februari 2023 om 23:52:05 UTC+1 schreef Graham:
Really? Which ones?
As an orthodox atheist, Dawkins makes the same mistake as
orthodox theists. They do not differentiate between ways of being.
There are different ways of being (or thinking) within the groups you mention. Not everyone is at the far extreme. I think there are people
who are open to people disagreeing with them, not having closure on
every issue and there are people who are the opposite. I don't think
these personality traits have anything to do with sorting people into
being theists or atheists.
On 2/7/2023 7:33 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:16:35 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/7/2023 6:28 PM, HT wrote:
Op dinsdag 7 februari 2023 om 23:52:05 UTC+1 schreef Graham:
Really? Which ones?
As an orthodox atheist, Dawkins makes the same mistake as
orthodox theists. They do not differentiate between ways of being.
There are different ways of being (or thinking) within the groups you
mention. Not everyone is at the far extreme. I think there are people
who are open to people disagreeing with them, not having closure on
every issue and there are people who are the opposite. I don't think
these personality traits have anything to do with sorting people into
being theists or atheists.
The best criterion for sorting people and the most accurate predictor
of personality and behavior is whether they prefer dogs or cats.
I have no evidence to the contrary.
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:16:35 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/7/2023 6:28 PM, HT wrote:
Op dinsdag 7 februari 2023 om 23:52:05 UTC+1 schreef Graham:
Really? Which ones?
As an orthodox atheist, Dawkins makes the same mistake as
orthodox theists. They do not differentiate between ways of being.
There are different ways of being (or thinking) within the groups you mention. Not everyone is at the far extreme. I think there are peopleThe best criterion for sorting people and the most accurate predictor
who are open to people disagreeing with them, not having closure on
every issue and there are people who are the opposite. I don't think
these personality traits have anything to do with sorting people into being theists or atheists.
of personality and behavior is whether they prefer dogs or cats.
dk
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:16:35 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/7/2023 6:28 PM, HT wrote:
Op dinsdag 7 februari 2023 om 23:52:05 UTC+1 schreef Graham:
Really? Which ones?
As an orthodox atheist, Dawkins makes the same mistake as
orthodox theists. They do not differentiate between ways of being.
There are different ways of being (or thinking) within the groups you
mention. Not everyone is at the far extreme. I think there are people
who are open to people disagreeing with them, not having closure on
every issue and there are people who are the opposite. I don't think
these personality traits have anything to do with sorting people into
being theists or atheists.
The best criterion for sorting people and the most accurate predictor
of personality and behavior is whether they prefer dogs or cats.
dk
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:42:52 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/7/2023 7:33 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
The best criterion for sorting people and the most accurate predictor
of personality and behavior is whether they prefer dogs or cats.
I have no evidence to the contrary.
https://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2015/06/17-basic-differences-between-dog-people-and-cat-people/
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:53:50 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:42:52 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/7/2023 7:33 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
The best criterion for sorting people and the most accurate predictor of personality and behavior is whether they prefer dogs or cats.
I have no evidence to the contrary.
https://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2015/06/17-basic-differences-between-dog-people-and-cat-people/
https://www.newsweek.com/differences-between-dog-people-cat-people-pet-personalities-1648634
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:56:15 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:53:50 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:42:52 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/7/2023 7:33 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
The best criterion for sorting people and the most accurate predictor of personality and behavior is whether they prefer dogs or cats.
I have no evidence to the contrary.
https://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2015/06/17-basic-differences-between-dog-people-and-cat-people/
https://www.newsweek.com/differences-between-dog-people-cat-people-pet-personalities-1648634
Cats are far more musical! ;-)
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:56:15 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:53:50 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 4:42:52 PM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
On 2/7/2023 7:33 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
The best criterion for sorting people and the most accurate predictor of personality and behavior is whether they prefer dogs or cats.
I have no evidence to the contrary.
https://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2015/06/17-basic-differences-between-dog-people-and-cat-people/
https://www.newsweek.com/differences-between-dog-people-cat-people-pet-personalities-1648634Cats are far more musical! ;-)
dk
There are different ways of being (or thinking) within the groups you mention. Not everyone is at the far extreme. I think there are people who are open to people disagreeing with them, not having closure on every issue and there are people who are theopposite. I don't think these personality traits have anything to do with sorting people into being theists or atheists.
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