hi,
Have anyone of you this video of Rudolf Serkin, at Carnegie Hall?
in 1978 he performed Haydn Hob 49, Beethoven Op 81a, Schubert D960
ihad it once, but i lost it
hi,
Have anyone of you this video of Rudolf Serkin, at Carnegie Hall?
in 1978 he performed Haydn Hob 49, Beethoven Op 81a, Schubert D960
ihad it once, but i lost it
On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:20:01 AM UTC-8, jagareco wrote:
hi,Is this what you are referring to?
Have anyone of you this video of Rudolf Serkin, at Carnegie Hall?
in 1978 he performed Haydn Hob 49, Beethoven Op 81a, Schubert D960
ihad it once, but i lost it
https://www.discogs.com/release/8535091-Rudolf-Serkin-Live-At-Carnegie-Hall
dk
This is the video i mentioned (i had it once):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufk0nUvixDM&ab_channel=GonzaloOlivares
look at 46:30
On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:06:32 PM UTC-8, jagareco wrote:
This is the video i mentioned (i had it once):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufk0nUvixDM&ab_channel=GonzaloOlivares
look at 46:30Disgusting Dubal propaganda.
The section you mention is a perfect example
of Rodolfo Serkin butchering Schubert. What a
steely, colorless sound! Metronomic brutality
from the first to the last note. Fuck Serkin!
dk
YOU ARE THE TROLL!
dk
On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 5:36:48 PM UTC-6, Dan Koren wrote:
On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:06:32 PM UTC-8, jagareco wrote:
This is the video i mentioned (i had it once):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufk0nUvixDM&ab_channel=GonzaloOlivares
look at 46:30
Disgusting Dubal propaganda.
The section you mention is a perfect example
of Rodolfo Serkin butchering Schubert. What a
steely, colorless sound! Metronomic brutality
from the first to the last note. Fuck Serkin!
We can always count on civil discourse from you,
Dan……in any case, right back at you about Serkin….
If you want to peddle moronic knee jerk crap, at
least spare us profanities…..or not…I’m sure you
could care less, and will continue to troll a la the
departed Mr. Deacon….you’re truly his drunken
successor to the cesspool division of RMCR.
On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:50:52 AM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
YOU ARE THE TROLL!
my, my, Mr Racist Piece of Shit is getting carried away a bit.
I don't see vhorowitz posting on every single topic, though,
just to put his troll smell there.
Profanities or not, no one is preventing anyone
else from enjoying, or even worshipping Serkin,
Backhaus, Arrau or Ney. Or whomever else you
like.
It is dishonest and disingenous to call me a
troll because you did not like my reply to a
post/thread YOU STARTED!
On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:50:52 AM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
Profanities or not, no one is preventing anyone
else from enjoying, or even worshipping Serkin,
Backhaus, Arrau or Ney. Or whomever else you
like.
It is dishonest and disingenous to call me a
troll because you did not like my reply to a
post/thread YOU STARTED!
In other news, you must be very drunk indeed,
coz vhorowitz did not start this topic. Just look.
And, yes , he's right, a lot of your time here is
devoted to negativity, preventing people from
enjoying whatever they enjoy.
You keep forgetting that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"...so just who are you to decide what it good and what is not good for the unwashed masses? Are they all just too stupid to decide for themselves? I ask the question...
On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:06:32 PM UTC-8, jagareco wrote:
This is the video i mentioned (i had it once):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufk0nUvixDM&ab_channel=GonzaloOlivares
look at 46:30Disgusting Dubal propaganda.
The section you mention is a perfect example
of Rodolfo Serkin butchering Schubert. What a
steely, colorless sound! Metronomic brutality
from the first to the last note. Fuck Serkin!
On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 2:30:48 AM UTC+1, Paul Alsing wrote:
You keep forgetting that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"...so just who are you to decide what it good and what is not good for the unwashed masses? Are they all just too stupid to decide for themselves? I ask the question...one can dream the usual unselfaware response by now.
you are not only supremely obnoxious, but completely unaware of your own smell, which is as trollish as they've ever come. You also either can't read, or you're a drunk, because I did NOT start this thread. I merely provided some information asked bythe actual originator of the thread
Agreed with most of the above, except the notion that DK should have any 'knowledge of the topics'. He hasn't got a clue what he's talking about.
On 2/19/23 2:09 AM, Herman wrote:
Agreed with most of the above, except the notion that DK should have any 'knowledge of the topics'. He hasn't got a clue what he's talking about.Herman, I have to disagree with you somewhat. While some of Dan's
statements have seemed dubious, he clearly has familiarity with very
many pianists and great knowledge of the piano literature as well as
other genres.
He does use an unusual definition of "troll", labelling people who use screen names as trolls, when that includes a majority of folks here.
Two of the contributors he interacts with very regularly use screen
names - Mandryka and HT - and they are far from being trolls!
No, a troll is someone who deliberately instigates conflict - and I'm
not sure he meets that definition. Dan is certainly provocative, and
that is great when it stimulates constructive debate. And he provides a valuable service by scouring YouTube for interesting performances and sharing them with us.
Also, I've often found that I agree with most of the performances he recommends and he has provided interesting insights and comments.
None of this excuses the unprovoked insults and nastiness that Dan
indulges with all too frequently - and vhorowitz
expressed this point very vividly indeed!
No one expects those of us who may seem overbearing, supercilious, or obnoxious (including me!) to fundamentally change - but for the sake of
the health of this forum, let's all tone it down?
On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 7:04:38 AM UTC-5, Notsure01 wrote:all red, while still another may see it is yellow. Each one of us takes on the color of our consciousness is, it is manifested through our minds.” Most believe that their partial vision is absolutely the correct one.
On 2/19/23 2:09 AM, Herman wrote:
Agreed with most of the above, except the notion that DK should have any 'knowledge of the topics'. He hasn't got a clue what he's talking about.Herman, I have to disagree with you somewhat. While some of Dan's
statements have seemed dubious, he clearly has familiarity with very
many pianists and great knowledge of the piano literature as well as
other genres.
Also, I've often found that I agree with most of the performances he
recommends and he has provided interesting insights and comments.
None of this excuses the unprovoked insults and nastiness that Dan
indulges with all too frequently - and vhorowitz
expressed this point very vividly indeed!
No one expects those of us who may seem overbearing, supercilious, or
obnoxious (including me!) to fundamentally change - but for the sake of
the health of this forum, let's all tone it down?
S.P. - “This world is a panorama, which we all look upon through different colored glasses. A person who has black glasses sees nothing but blackness. As a result, he asserts that this whole world is black. Another with red glasses, declares it to be
On 2/19/23 2:09 AM, Herman wrote:
Agreed with most of the above, except the notion that DK should have any 'knowledge of the topics'. He hasn't got a clue what he's talking about.Herman, I have to disagree with you somewhat. While some of Dan's
statements have seemed dubious, he clearly has familiarity with very
many pianists and great knowledge of the piano literature as well as
other genres.
On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 1:04:38 PM UTC+1, Notsure01 wrote:You're deceived by the bully bluff.
On 2/19/23 2:09 AM, Herman wrote:
Agreed with most of the above, except the notion that DK should have any 'knowledge of the topics'. He hasn't got a clue what he's talking about.Herman, I have to disagree with you somewhat. While some of Dan's statements have seemed dubious, he clearly has familiarity with very
many pianists and great knowledge of the piano literature as well as
other genres.
Nope.
On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 1:19:46 PM UTC+1, Herman wrote:
On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 1:04:38 PM UTC+1, Notsure01 wrote:You're deceived by the bully bluff.
On 2/19/23 2:09 AM, Herman wrote:Nope.
Agreed with most of the above, except the notion that DK should have any 'knowledge of the topics'. He hasn't got a clue what he's talking about.Herman, I have to disagree with you somewhat. While some of Dan's
statements have seemed dubious, he clearly has familiarity with very
many pianists and great knowledge of the piano literature as well as
other genres.
On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 7:49:46 PM UTC-6, Herman wrote:provided some information asked by the actual originator of the thread (please consult your dictionary for the meaning of that word).
On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 2:30:48 AM UTC+1, Paul Alsing wrote:
one can dream the usual unselfaware response by now.
You keep forgetting that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"...so just who are you to decide what it good and what is not good for the unwashed masses? Are they all just too stupid to decide for themselves? I ask the question...
I started this thread???? Dan, you are not only supremely obnoxious, but completely unaware of your own smell, which is as trollish as they've ever come. You also either can't read, or you're a drunk, because I did NOT start this thread. I merely
On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:36:48 PM UTC-8, Dan Koren wrote:
On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 3:06:32 PM UTC-8, jagareco wrote:
This is the video i mentioned (i had it once):Disgusting Dubal propaganda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufk0nUvixDM&ab_channel=GonzaloOlivares
look at 46:30
The section you mention is a perfect example
of Rodolfo Serkin butchering Schubert. What a
steely, colorless sound! Metronomic brutality
from the first to the last note. Fuck Serkin!
You keep forgetting that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"...so just who are you to decide what it good and what is not good for the unwashed masses? Are they all just too stupid to decide for themselves? I ask the question...
The criticism of Dan is that he is rude (or
behaves in a rude manner in RMCR,
he could be a pussycat in real life for all I
know),
and one can have an opinion on whether
he knows what he is talking about.
But he entitled to state his opinions as
much as you are, without explaining
they are his opinions.
It doesn't matter if his head he certain he
is right or whether he recognizes that he
could be wrong. I don't care. Why should
you?
People seem to feel upset every time an
object of their worship is attacked, be it
Landowska, Ney, Backhaus, Madonna or
Taylor Swift.
On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 10:41:55 AM UTC-8, Frank Berger wrote:
The criticism of Dan is that he is rude (or
behaves in a rude manner in RMCR,
One person's "rudeness" is another person's
"directness". I prefer to be direct in order to
prevent diverging interpretations.
he could be a pussycat in real life for all I
know),
Of course I am a pussycat, even though I
drive Audis:
https://www.myimprov.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/grumpycat.jpg
and one can have an opinion on whether
he knows what he is talking about.
Certainly true of most people.
But he entitled to state his opinions as
much as you are, without explaining
they are his opinions.
Moving forward I will provide notarized
affidavits my opinions are mine every
time I post.
It doesn't matter if his head he certain he
is right or whether he recognizes that he
could be wrong. I don't care. Why should
you?
People seem to feel upset every time an
object of their worship is attacked, be it
Landowska, Ney, Backhaus, Madonna or
Taylor Swift.
dk
On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 12:58:49 AM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
People seem to feel upset every time an
object of their worship is attacked, be it
Landowska, Ney, Backhaus, Madonna or
Taylor Swift.
Don't flatter yourself. Your Array / Serkin
hatred isn't cutting edge,
it's boring as hell in its predictable
repetitiveness.
Ultimately what's offensive is that you
seem to regard this place as your toilet,
where you keep taking your narcissistic
dumps.
People seem to feel upset every time an
object of their worship is attacked, be it
Landowska, Ney, Backhaus, Madonna or
Taylor Swift.
ROTFL !!! Check Oscar, Melmoth, Marc
Schiss and NotSoSure01. The latter
introduced himself has having just
retired after a "distinguished career",
without providing any information
about what made his career so
distinguished, or even the line of
work he engaged in. My guess is
that a significant fraction of his
work, if not all of it, was stuffing
suits every morning.
dk
It's not the criticism that bothers people so much, but the way it is >phrased.
In article <30b212f7-da80-8c5d-47bb-8b7931cfef48@aol.com>,
Notsure01 <docduc1013@aol.com> wrote:
It's not the criticism that bothers people so much, but the way it is
phrased.
If "the way it is phrased" includes the same comments over & over, then
yes.
On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 10:14:45 AM UTC+1, Notsure01 wrote:
On 2/20/23 11:15 PM, Todd M. McComb wrote:
In article <30b212f7-da80-8c5d...@aol.com>,Hi Todd. You mentioned before that I am repeating myself - if it will
Notsure01 <docdu...@aol.com> wrote:
It's not the criticism that bothers people so much, but the way it is
phrased.
If "the way it is phrased" includes the same comments over & over, then
yes.
help to reduce the squabbling so we could concentrate (mostly) on music,
I'll try to avoid this topic, even when provoked.
I appreciate the feedback - thanks.
Are you sure Todd was referring to you, rather than to DK's oft reiterated not-so-bon mots about Brendel, Arrau or Serkin?
On 2/20/23 11:15 PM, Todd M. McComb wrote:
In article <30b212f7-da80-8c5d...@aol.com>,
Notsure01 <docdu...@aol.com> wrote:
It's not the criticism that bothers people so much, but the way it is
phrased.
If "the way it is phrased" includes the same comments over & over, then yes.
Hi Todd. You mentioned before that I am repeating myself - if it will
help to reduce the squabbling so we could concentrate (mostly) on music,
I'll try to avoid this topic, even when provoked.
I appreciate the feedback - thanks.
how does the expression go: "My
keyboard only goes up three octaves".
People seem to feel upset every time an
object of their worship is attacked, be it
Landowska, Ney, Backhaus, Madonna or
Taylor Swift.
dk
In the case of Ney, my standard remark is still that I am astonished
that she was able to play the piano at all, considering the amount of
time she spent with her right arm held up stiffly with the palm
down.
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