"Over the last four decades, in fact, Republican presidents have run up larger deficits than Democrats."
Why Are Republican Presidents So Bad for the Economy?
New York Times - Feb 2, 2021
— https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/02/opinion/sunday/democrats-economy.html
On 8/29/23 9:26 AM, bruce bowser wrote:
"Over the last four decades, in fact, Republican presidents have run up larger deficits than Democrats."
Why Are Republican Presidents So Bad for the Economy?What has been very interesting and instructive to me is Bill Clinton's ability to run a budget surplus for a couple of years, at least.
New York Times - Feb 2, 2021
— https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/02/opinion/sunday/democrats-economy.html
This means that party reputation, and campaign promises are to be
discounted as vaporware.
So while Clinton was in office, I did not like him. But in retrospect, considering most of his policies, they tended to be far-sighted. There
were some slip-ups, so far as I'm concerned, but they were the exception.
The same sort of thing happened WRT Nixon, although I could never get
past the fact that he was by nature personally unlikable--plus his transgressions were very serious--much like Trump's--whereas with
Clinton you always felt that he'd be the guy to do the town with--he'd
know all the best bars/jazz clubs, all the hot chicks...
Hah! Now I remember something I read back while he was still prez. This
is a paraphrase from a magazine article, and it might have been from
James Carville. He said:
"And one thing for sure, you knew the women voters loved Bill.
"I can remember one time when he spoke before a roomful of the Women
Voters League. After a few minutes the room was completely silent,
except for his voice, and the soft rustling of panties falling to the floor...".
On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 18:11:51 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:been amazing. Also you got to remember he was a Dem president and never going to get any bad reports.
On 8/29/23 9:26 AM, bruce bowser wrote:oh yes that an old story and in my view he was good president, much better than Obama(who was good in 1st term and tried to implement healthcare-for-everyone), but he had the chance to pay off the entire national debt and chose not to, which would've
"Over the last four decades, in fact, Republican presidents have run up larger deficits than Democrats."What has been very interesting and instructive to me is Bill Clinton's
Why Are Republican Presidents So Bad for the Economy?
New York Times - Feb 2, 2021
— https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/02/opinion/sunday/democrats-economy.html
ability to run a budget surplus for a couple of years, at least.
This means that party reputation, and campaign promises are to be
discounted as vaporware.
So while Clinton was in office, I did not like him. But in retrospect,
considering most of his policies, they tended to be far-sighted. There
were some slip-ups, so far as I'm concerned, but they were the exception.
The same sort of thing happened WRT Nixon, although I could never get
past the fact that he was by nature personally unlikable--plus his
transgressions were very serious--much like Trump's--whereas with
Clinton you always felt that he'd be the guy to do the town with--he'd
know all the best bars/jazz clubs, all the hot chicks...
Hah! Now I remember something I read back while he was still prez. This
is a paraphrase from a magazine article, and it might have been from
James Carville. He said:
"And one thing for sure, you knew the women voters loved Bill.
"I can remember one time when he spoke before a roomful of the Women
Voters League. After a few minutes the room was completely silent,
except for his voice, and the soft rustling of panties falling to the
floor...".
I had expected him, by his successful ascension to the presidency, to
be an example to all of black America that *everything* was open to
them, but he proceeded to legitimize their complaints--ironic,
because from the position of arguably the most powerful man on earth,
he encouraged blacks to continue to believe that they were barred, by
race, from success.
The second time I voted for no one, recognizing that I had voted for
Obama in 2006 to prove to myself that I was not racist,
On 29.8.2023 21.12, Sawfish wrote:
I had expected him, by his successful ascension to the presidency, to
be an example to all of black America that *everything* was open to
them, but he proceeded to legitimize their complaints--ironic,
because from the position of arguably the most powerful man on earth,
he encouraged blacks to continue to believe that they were barred, by
race, from success.
"On May 19, President Barack Obama gave a commencement address at
Morehouse College, a predominantly black men’s college in Atlanta. His words and message were forceful, timely and uniquely befitting the first African-American president.
The president said what few others could say and still be considered politically acceptable. He debunked the notions of victimization and impotence so pervasive in talk about race, religion and ethnicity today,
and encouraged the young black grads to “strive to do what’s right .
(To) work harder and dream bigger.”
President Obama laid waste to the advocates of doom and gloom — the
Cornel Wests and Tavis Smileys, et al. — who argue that not much has changed in America in terms of race relations and acceptance:
“Here, under the tutelage of men like Dr. (Benjamin) Mays, young Martin (Luther King) learned to be unafraid. And he, in turn, taught others to
be unafraid. And over time, he taught a nation to be unafraid. And over
the last 50 years, thanks to the moral force of Dr. King and a Moses generation that overcame their fear and their cynicism and their
despair, barriers have come tumbling down and new doors of opportunity
have swung open, and laws and hearts and minds have been changed to the
point where someone who looks just like you can somehow come to serve as president of these United States of America.”
Just in case those in the audience and the rest of America didn’t get
his point, the president laid out the implications of the new “open doors”:
“We’ve got no time for excuses. Not because the bitter legacy of slavery and segregation have vanished entirely; they have not. Not because
racism and discrimination no longer exist; we know those are still out
there. It’s just that in today’s hyperconnected, hypercompetitive world, with millions of young people from China and India and Brazil — many of whom started with a whole lot less than all of you did — all of them entering the global workforce alongside you, nobody is going to give you anything that you have not earned.”
That is a powerful answer to those who focus only on the “excuses” — the
remnants of discriminatory conduct. The president isn’t looking for perfection or nirvana but for an America in which hard work pays off and barriers of bigotry and discrimination remain rare and anomalous. He
reminded his audience that whatever hurdles they have overcome pale “in comparison to the hardships previous generations endured — and they overcame them. And if they overcame them, you can overcome them too.”"
The second time I voted for no one, recognizing that I had voted for
Obama in 2006 to prove to myself that I was not racist,
Did you manage to convince yourself?
On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 18:11:51 UTC+1, Sawfish wrote:
On 8/29/23 9:26 AM, bruce bowser wrote:
"Over the last four decades, in fact, Republican presidents have run up larger deficits than Democrats."
Why Are Republican Presidents So Bad for the Economy?What has been very interesting and instructive to me is Bill Clinton's ability to run a budget surplus for a couple of years, at least.
New York Times - Feb 2, 2021
— https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/02/opinion/sunday/democrats-economy.html
This means that party reputation, and campaign promises are to be discounted as vaporware.
So while Clinton was in office, I did not like him. But in retrospect, considering most of his policies, they tended to be far-sighted. There were some slip-ups, so far as I'm concerned, but they were the exception.
The same sort of thing happened WRT Nixon, although I could never get
past the fact that he was by nature personally unlikable--plus his transgressions were very serious--much like Trump's--whereas with
Clinton you always felt that he'd be the guy to do the town with--he'd know all the best bars/jazz clubs, all the hot chicks...
Hah! Now I remember something I read back while he was still prez. This
is a paraphrase from a magazine article, and it might have been from
James Carville. He said:
"And one thing for sure, you knew the women voters loved Bill.
"I can remember one time when he spoke before a roomful of the Women Voters League. After a few minutes the room was completely silent,oh yes that an old story and in my view he was good president, much better than Obama
except for his voice, and the soft rustling of panties falling to the floor...".
On 29.8.2023 21.12, Sawfish wrote:
I had expected him, by his successful ascension to the presidency, to"On May 19, President Barack Obama gave a commencement address at
be an example to all of black America that *everything* was open to
them, but he proceeded to legitimize their complaints--ironic,
because from the position of arguably the most powerful man on earth,
he encouraged blacks to continue to believe that they were barred, by race, from success.
Morehouse College, a predominantly black men’s college in Atlanta. His words and message were forceful, timely and uniquely befitting the first African-American president.
The president said what few others could say and still be considered politically acceptable. He debunked the notions of victimization and impotence so pervasive in talk about race, religion and ethnicity today,
and encouraged the young black grads to “strive to do what’s right . (To) work harder and dream bigger.”
President Obama laid waste to the advocates of doom and gloom — the
Cornel Wests and Tavis Smileys, et al. — who argue that not much has changed in America in terms of race relations and acceptance:
“Here, under the tutelage of men like Dr. (Benjamin) Mays, young Martin (Luther King) learned to be unafraid. And he, in turn, taught others to
be unafraid. And over time, he taught a nation to be unafraid. And over
the last 50 years, thanks to the moral force of Dr. King and a Moses generation that overcame their fear and their cynicism and their
despair, barriers have come tumbling down and new doors of opportunity
have swung open, and laws and hearts and minds have been changed to the point where someone who looks just like you can somehow come to serve as president of these United States of America.”
Just in case those in the audience and the rest of America didn’t get
his point, the president laid out the implications of the new “open doors”:
“We’ve got no time for excuses. Not because the bitter legacy of slavery and segregation have vanished entirely; they have not. Not because
racism and discrimination no longer exist; we know those are still out there. It’s just that in today’s hyperconnected, hypercompetitive world, with millions of young people from China and India and Brazil — many of whom started with a whole lot less than all of you did — all of them entering the global workforce alongside you, nobody is going to give you anything that you have not earned.”
That is a powerful answer to those who focus only on the “excuses” — the
remnants of discriminatory conduct. The president isn’t looking for perfection or nirvana but for an America in which hard work pays off and barriers of bigotry and discrimination remain rare and anomalous. He reminded his audience that whatever hurdles they have overcome pale “in comparison to the hardships previous generations endured — and they overcame them. And if they overcame them, you can overcome them too.”"
On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 20:05:03 UTC+1, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
On 29.8.2023 21.12, Sawfish wrote:
I had expected him, by his successful ascension to the presidency, to"On May 19, President Barack Obama gave a commencement address at
be an example to all of black America that *everything* was open to
them, but he proceeded to legitimize their complaints--ironic,
because from the position of arguably the most powerful man on earth,
he encouraged blacks to continue to believe that they were barred, by
race, from success.
Morehouse College, a predominantly black men’s college in Atlanta. His
words and message were forceful, timely and uniquely befitting the first
African-American president.
The president said what few others could say and still be considered
politically acceptable. He debunked the notions of victimization and
impotence so pervasive in talk about race, religion and ethnicity today,
and encouraged the young black grads to “strive to do what’s right .
(To) work harder and dream bigger.”
President Obama laid waste to the advocates of doom and gloom — the
Cornel Wests and Tavis Smileys, et al. — who argue that not much has
changed in America in terms of race relations and acceptance:
“Here, under the tutelage of men like Dr. (Benjamin) Mays, young Martin
(Luther King) learned to be unafraid. And he, in turn, taught others to
be unafraid. And over time, he taught a nation to be unafraid. And over
the last 50 years, thanks to the moral force of Dr. King and a Moses
generation that overcame their fear and their cynicism and their
despair, barriers have come tumbling down and new doors of opportunity
have swung open, and laws and hearts and minds have been changed to the
point where someone who looks just like you can somehow come to serve as
president of these United States of America.”
Just in case those in the audience and the rest of America didn’t get
his point, the president laid out the implications of the new “open doors”:
“We’ve got no time for excuses. Not because the bitter legacy of slavery >> and segregation have vanished entirely; they have not. Not because
racism and discrimination no longer exist; we know those are still out
there. It’s just that in today’s hyperconnected, hypercompetitive world, >> with millions of young people from China and India and Brazil — many of
whom started with a whole lot less than all of you did — all of them
entering the global workforce alongside you, nobody is going to give you
anything that you have not earned.”
That is a powerful answer to those who focus only on the “excuses” — the
remnants of discriminatory conduct. The president isn’t looking for
perfection or nirvana but for an America in which hard work pays off and
barriers of bigotry and discrimination remain rare and anomalous. He
reminded his audience that whatever hurdles they have overcome pale “in
comparison to the hardships previous generations endured — and they
overcame them. And if they overcame them, you can overcome them too.”"
zzz this was long ago in 2013, before he sold out https://manhattan.institute/article/obamas-ferguson-sellout
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