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  • The Djoker is the Undisputed Tennis GOAT Today

    From Paul Dorman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 10 18:25:39 2023
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET! He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to Paul Dorman on Mon Sep 11 04:46:26 2023
    Paul Dorman <quiller123@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET! He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    He was already the GOAT before this US Open
    victory, but congratulations to Djoker anyway.

    br,
    KK

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  • From RzR@21:1/5 to Paul Dorman on Mon Sep 11 08:08:54 2023
    On 9/11/2023 4:25 AM, Paul Dorman wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O

    Hard Court GOAT for sure...more like Australian open GOAT LMAO

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  • From grif@21:1/5 to grif on Mon Sep 11 08:13:48 2023
    On 11/09/2023 07:20, grif wrote:
    On 11/09/2023 02:25, Paul Dorman wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O

    Nole the GOAT. One of a kind. https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38373910/novak-djokovic-beats-daniil-medvedev-win-2023-us-open-24th-major-title


    One interesting pick by Henman on the GOAT debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRNORHXURC8

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  • From RzR@21:1/5 to grif on Mon Sep 11 09:56:45 2023
    On 9/11/2023 9:20 AM, grif wrote:
    On 11/09/2023 02:25, Paul Dorman wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O

    Nole the GOAT. One of a kind. https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38373910/novak-djokovic-beats-daniil-medvedev-win-2023-us-open-24th-major-title


    one of a kind definitely in australia...not so much in other gs...second
    place or worse...

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  • From grif@21:1/5 to Paul Dorman on Mon Sep 11 07:20:00 2023
    On 11/09/2023 02:25, Paul Dorman wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O

    Nole the GOAT. One of a kind. https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38373910/novak-djokovic-beats-daniil-medvedev-win-2023-us-open-24th-major-title

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Yama on Mon Sep 11 02:54:16 2023
    On Monday, 11 September 2023 at 10:22:27 UTC+1, Yama wrote:
    Paul Dorman kirjoitti 11.9.2023 klo 4:25:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET! He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!
    Public interest seems tepid: historic victory, yet almost no headlines
    at all.
    I don't think history will rate this win very high, to be frank.

    can't think why? is it cos he's now got more slams than Serena?? is the MSM very upset by that also that he's from Serbia and was playing a Russian and all the other stuff

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  • From Yama@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 11 12:22:23 2023
    Paul Dorman kirjoitti 11.9.2023 klo 4:25:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Public interest seems tepid: historic victory, yet almost no headlines
    at all.
    I don't think history will rate this win very high, to be frank.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to RzR on Mon Sep 11 20:15:49 2023
    On 11/09/2023 4:56 pm, RzR wrote:
    On 9/11/2023 9:20 AM, grif wrote:
    On 11/09/2023 02:25, Paul Dorman wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O

    Nole the GOAT. One of a kind.
    https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38373910/novak-djokovic-beats-daniil-medvedev-win-2023-us-open-24th-major-title


    one of a kind definitely in australia...not so much in other gs...second place or worse...


    3-0 v Federer in Wimbledon finals ; )

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  • From RzR@21:1/5 to Whisper on Mon Sep 11 13:22:01 2023
    On 9/11/2023 1:15 PM, Whisper wrote:
    On 11/09/2023 4:56 pm, RzR wrote:
    On 9/11/2023 9:20 AM, grif wrote:
    On 11/09/2023 02:25, Paul Dorman wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O

    Nole the GOAT. One of a kind.
    https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38373910/novak-djokovic-beats-daniil-medvedev-win-2023-us-open-24th-major-title


    one of a kind definitely in australia...not so much in other
    gs...second place or worse...


    3-0 v Federer in Wimbledon finals ; )

    not bad...still 8-7 in total wimbledons

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to RzR on Mon Sep 11 20:31:23 2023
    On 11/09/2023 8:22 pm, RzR wrote:
    On 9/11/2023 1:15 PM, Whisper wrote:
    On 11/09/2023 4:56 pm, RzR wrote:
    On 9/11/2023 9:20 AM, grif wrote:
    On 11/09/2023 02:25, Paul Dorman wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O

    Nole the GOAT. One of a kind.
    https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38373910/novak-djokovic-beats-daniil-medvedev-win-2023-us-open-24th-major-title


    one of a kind definitely in australia...not so much in other
    gs...second place or worse...


    3-0 v Federer in Wimbledon finals ; )

    not bad...still 8-7 in total wimbledons


    Federer couldn't beat Djokovic in Wimbledon finals, always lost to him : )

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  • From The Iceberg@21:1/5 to Whisper on Mon Sep 11 03:38:56 2023
    On Monday, 11 September 2023 at 11:30:24 UTC+1, Whisper wrote:
    On 11/09/2023 7:22 pm, Yama wrote:
    Paul Dorman kirjoitti 11.9.2023 klo 4:25:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET! He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Public interest seems tepid: historic victory, yet almost no headlines
    at all.
    I don't think history will rate this win very high, to be frank.

    You're mistaken. Oldest USO champ in open era, 10 USO finals = Bill Tilden.

    yes totally, meant to add to previous post, only the upset MSM won't "rate" this win whereas "HISTORY" definitely will.

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  • From Court_1@21:1/5 to RzR on Mon Sep 11 03:56:59 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 6:21:54 AM UTC-4, RzR wrote:
    On 9/11/2023 1:15 PM, Whisper wrote:
    On 11/09/2023 4:56 pm, RzR wrote:
    On 9/11/2023 9:20 AM, grif wrote:
    On 11/09/2023 02:25, Paul Dorman wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET! He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O

    Nole the GOAT. One of a kind.
    https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38373910/novak-djokovic-beats-daniil-medvedev-win-2023-us-open-24th-major-title


    one of a kind definitely in australia...not so much in other
    gs...second place or worse...


    3-0 v Federer in Wimbledon finals ; )

    not bad...still 8-7 in total wimbledons

    It's bad. You can't be the goat of Wimbledon when you lose four finals to your biggest rivals. It doesn't make sense. You have to protect your so-called turf. Think about it logically.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to Yama on Mon Sep 11 20:30:08 2023
    On 11/09/2023 7:22 pm, Yama wrote:
    Paul Dorman kirjoitti 11.9.2023 klo 4:25:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Public interest seems tepid: historic victory, yet almost no headlines
    at all.
    I don't think history will rate this win very high, to be frank.



    You're mistaken. Oldest USO champ in open era, 10 USO finals = Bill Tilden.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to Paul Dorman on Mon Sep 11 21:50:51 2023
    On 11/09/2023 11:25 am, Paul Dorman wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O


    Yes it's almost getting a bit ridiculous at the rate he's piling up
    these slam titles. He's 4 slams ahead of Federer - Courier/Vilas career
    level lead - looks to have lots more in the tank. Novak prob only has 1
    rival for the next year at least, maybe 2. That's a great position to
    be at age 36 and no real pressure to win slams, can swing freely and
    take more chances. Carlos will be under the gun trying to win slams to
    prove his pedigree, Novak is playing with house money.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to RzR on Mon Sep 11 22:02:52 2023
    On 11/09/2023 3:08 pm, RzR wrote:
    On 9/11/2023 4:25 AM, Paul Dorman wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O

    Hard Court GOAT for sure...more like Australian open GOAT LMAO


    Is this you?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Mon Sep 11 22:00:32 2023
    On 11/09/2023 2:46 pm, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Paul Dorman <quiller123@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET! He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    He was already the GOAT before this US Open
    victory, but congratulations to Djoker anyway.

    br,
    KK


    Hopefully he just keeps on winning slams til 40, wins calendar slam next
    yr, 30+ overall. That should shut just about everyone up.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to olympia0000@yahoo.com on Mon Sep 11 15:04:18 2023
    Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 6:21:54 AM UTC-4, RzR wrote:> On 9/11/2023 1:15 PM, Whisper wrote: > > On 11/09/2023 4:56 pm, RzR wrote: > >> On 9/11/2023 9:20 AM, grif wrote: > >>> On 11/09/2023 02:25, Paul Dorman wrote: > >>>> Yes, there are many
    Djoker haters here, and to be > >>>> honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too. > >>>> > >>>> But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks > >>>> for itself. > >>>> > >>>> And he obviously not done YET! He's got AT LEAST 2-3 > >>>> more Slams in
    him! > >>>> > >>>> Unbelievable! > >>>> > >>>> :O > >>> > >>> Nole the GOAT. One of a kind. > >>> https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38373910/novak-djokovic-beats-daniil-medvedev-win-2023-us-open-24th-major-title > >>> > >> > >> one of a kind
    definitely in australia...not so much in other > >> gs...second place or worse... > > > > > > 3-0 v Federer in Wimbledon finals ; )> not bad...still 8-7 in total wimbledonsIt's bad. You can't be the goat of Wimbledon when you lose four finals to your
    biggest rivals. It doesn't make sense. You have to protect your so-called turf. Think about it logically.



    Rules must be same for everyone.

    Titles, then finals, then semis, then quarters.


    Titles and finals...in this case is enough.

    Federer, 8, 12
    Djokovic, 7, 9
    Sampras, 7, 7



    Federer is Wimbledon goat, no matter how miniscule the lead is. In fact, it's not miniscule at all, he has 1 title more.

    It's someone's career accomplishment. E.g. Cash, Stich, Krajicek, Ivanišević...


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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Yama on Mon Sep 11 15:06:33 2023
    Yama <yama212NOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk> Wrote in message:r
    Paul Dorman kirjoitti 11.9.2023 klo 4:25:> Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be> honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.> > But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks> for itself.> > And he obviously not done YET! He's got AT
    LEAST 2-3> more Slams in him!Public interest seems tepid: historic victory, yet almost no headlines at all.I don't think history will rate this win very high, to be frank.


    It's because of kalergi and globalist agenda, blacks, vax and so on.

    They like to forget about this one.


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  • From gapp111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 11 07:25:30 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:04:26 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 6:21:54 AM UTC-4, RzR wrote:> On 9/11/2023 1:15 PM, Whisper wrote: > > On 11/09/2023 4:56 pm, RzR wrote: > >> On 9/11/2023 9:20 AM, grif wrote: > >>> On 11/09/2023 02:25, Paul Dorman wrote: > >>>> Yes, there are
    many Djoker haters here, and to be > >>>> honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too. > >>>> > >>>> But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks > >>>> for itself. > >>>> > >>>> And he obviously not done YET! He's got AT LEAST 2-3 > >>>> more
    Slams in him! > >>>> > >>>> Unbelievable! > >>>> > >>>> :O > >>> > >>> Nole the GOAT. One of a kind. > >>> https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38373910/novak-djokovic-beats-daniil-medvedev-win-2023-us-open-24th-major-title > >>> > >> > >> one of a
    kind definitely in australia...not so much in other > >> gs...second place or worse... > > > > > > 3-0 v Federer in Wimbledon finals ; )> not bad...still 8-7 in total wimbledonsIt's bad. You can't be the goat of Wimbledon when you lose four finals to
    your biggest rivals. It doesn't make sense. You have to protect your so-called turf. Think about it logically.



    Rules must be same for everyone.

    Titles, then finals, then semis, then quarters.


    Titles and finals...in this case is enough.

    Federer, 8, 12
    Djokovic, 7, 9
    Sampras, 7, 7



    Federer is Wimbledon goat, no matter how miniscule the lead is. In fact, it's not miniscule at all, he has 1 title more.

    It's someone's career accomplishment. E.g. Cash, Stich, Krajicek, Ivanišević...


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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 12 01:10:24 2023
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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Whisper on Mon Sep 11 17:14:40 2023
    Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:
    It's great for Novak to be 3-0 in Wimbledon finals v Wimbledon goat - awesome for his resume. Nobody will ever ask 'I wonder if Novak could beat Federer in Wimbledon finals?'



    That's a about it.

    But decades or centuries from now, do you really know about Cochet vs Tilden Wimbledon finals h2h?

    I don't and I know a lot about tennis.


    Bad h2h is problematic because it prevents you from winning the titles.


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  • From PeteWasLucky@21:1/5 to Whisper on Mon Sep 11 08:18:54 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 11:10:36 AM UTC-4, Whisper wrote:
    On 12/09/2023 12:25 am, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:04:26 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 6:21:54 AM UTC-4, RzR wrote:> On 9/11/2023 1:15 PM, Whisper wrote: > > On 11/09/2023 4:56 pm, RzR wrote: > >> On 9/11/2023 9:20 AM, grif wrote: > >>> On 11/09/2023 02:25, Paul Dorman wrote: > >>>> Yes, there are
    many Djoker haters here, and to be > >>>> honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too. > >>>> > >>>> But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks > >>>> for itself. > >>>> > >>>> And he obviously not done YET! He's got AT LEAST 2-3 > >>>> more
    Slams in him! > >>>> > >>>> Unbelievable! > >>>> > >>>> :O > >>> > >>> Nole the GOAT. One of a kind. > >>> https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38373910/novak-djokovic-beats-daniil-medvedev-win-2023-us-open-24th-major-title > >>> > >> > >> one of a
    kind definitely in australia...not so much in other > >> gs...second place or worse... > > > > > > 3-0 v Federer in Wimbledon finals ; )> not bad...still 8-7 in total wimbledonsIt's bad. You can't be the goat of Wimbledon when you lose four finals to
    your biggest rivals. It doesn't make sense. You have to protect your so-called turf. Think about it logically.



    Rules must be same for everyone.

    Titles, then finals, then semis, then quarters.


    Titles and finals...in this case is enough.

    Federer, 8, 12
    Djokovic, 7, 9
    Sampras, 7, 7



    Federer is Wimbledon goat, no matter how miniscule the lead is. In fact, it's not miniscule at all, he has 1 title more.

    It's someone's career accomplishment. E.g. Cash, Stich, Krajicek, Ivanišević...



    Fed is Wimbledon goat, no question, even Borg and Laver said that!
    It's great for Novak to be 3-0 in Wimbledon finals v Wimbledon goat - awesome for his resume. Nobody will ever ask 'I wonder if Novak could
    beat Federer in Wimbledon finals?'

    True, everyone knows the answer the same way they know the answer for Federer vs Pete.

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  • From joh@21:1/5 to Whisper on Mon Sep 11 08:46:12 2023
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:10:36 PM UTC+2, Whisper wrote:
    On 12/09/2023 12:25 am, gap...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:04:26 AM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
    Court_1 <olymp...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 6:21:54 AM UTC-4, RzR wrote:> On 9/11/2023 1:15 PM, Whisper wrote: > > On 11/09/2023 4:56 pm, RzR wrote: > >> On 9/11/2023 9:20 AM, grif wrote: > >>> On 11/09/2023 02:25, Paul Dorman wrote: > >>>> Yes, there are
    many Djoker haters here, and to be > >>>> honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too. > >>>> > >>>> But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks > >>>> for itself. > >>>> > >>>> And he obviously not done YET! He's got AT LEAST 2-3 > >>>> more
    Slams in him! > >>>> > >>>> Unbelievable! > >>>> > >>>> :O > >>> > >>> Nole the GOAT. One of a kind. > >>> https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/38373910/novak-djokovic-beats-daniil-medvedev-win-2023-us-open-24th-major-title > >>> > >> > >> one of a
    kind definitely in australia...not so much in other > >> gs...second place or worse... > > > > > > 3-0 v Federer in Wimbledon finals ; )> not bad...still 8-7 in total wimbledonsIt's bad. You can't be the goat of Wimbledon when you lose four finals to
    your biggest rivals. It doesn't make sense. You have to protect your so-called turf. Think about it logically.



    Rules must be same for everyone.

    Titles, then finals, then semis, then quarters.


    Titles and finals...in this case is enough.

    Federer, 8, 12
    Djokovic, 7, 9
    Sampras, 7, 7



    Federer is Wimbledon goat, no matter how miniscule the lead is. In fact, it's not miniscule at all, he has 1 title more.

    It's someone's career accomplishment. E.g. Cash, Stich, Krajicek, Ivanišević...



    Fed is Wimbledon goat, no question, even Borg and Laver said that!
    It's great for Novak to be 3-0 in Wimbledon finals v Wimbledon goat - awesome for his resume. Nobody will ever ask 'I wonder if Novak could
    beat Federer in Wimbledon finals?'

    Those were all after Borg retired. Big asterix.

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  • From Yama@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 11 23:15:46 2023
    The Iceberg kirjoitti 11.9.2023 klo 12:54:
    On Monday, 11 September 2023 at 10:22:27 UTC+1, Yama wrote:
    Public interest seems tepid: historic victory, yet almost no headlines
    at all.
    I don't think history will rate this win very high, to be frank.

    can't think why? is it cos he's now got more slams than Serena?? is the MSM very upset by that also that he's from Serbia and was playing a Russian and all the other stuff

    Serena was hardly big darling of the MSM, at least in Europe.
    It's just that ATP is not very interesting, and has not been for some
    time. All too obvious that the new generation is not up to the standard
    of the old one. Public feels like Djoko is beating up midgets.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Yama on Mon Sep 11 23:24:51 2023
    Yama <yama212NOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk> Wrote in message:
    Serena was hardly big darling of the MSM, at least in Europe.

    Thankfully.




    It's just that ATP is not very interesting, and has not been for some time.

    And WTA is interesting? lol
    Whatever.




    All too obvious that the new generation is not up to the standard of the old one. Public feels like Djoko is beating up midgets.


    Medvedev and Alcaraz are midgets, but who are the giants then?

    Baghdatis and Ljubičić?




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  • From RzR@21:1/5 to Whisper on Tue Sep 12 09:11:18 2023
    On 9/11/2023 3:02 PM, Whisper wrote:
    On 11/09/2023 3:08 pm, RzR wrote:
    On 9/11/2023 4:25 AM, Paul Dorman wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O

    Hard Court GOAT for sure...more like Australian open GOAT LMAO


    Is this you?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs



    so you are saying in all of their primes, you would pick djoker to beat
    rafa on clay and fed on grass?

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to RzR on Tue Sep 12 09:15:24 2023
    RzR <razor@email.tg> Wrote in message:r
    On 9/11/2023 3:02 PM, Whisper wrote:> On 11/09/2023 3:08 pm, RzR wrote:>> On 9/11/2023 4:25 AM, Paul Dorman wrote:>>> Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be>>> honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.>>>>>> But facts are facts, and the
    Djoker's record speaks>>> for itself.>>>>>> And he obviously not done YET! He's got AT LEAST 2-3>>> more Slams in him!>>>>>> Unbelievable!>>>>>> :O>>>> Hard Court GOAT for sure...more like Australian open GOAT LMAO> > > Is this you?> > https://www.
    youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs> > so you are saying in all of their primes, you would pick djoker to beat rafa on clay and fed on grass?


    Define prime.

    Nadal won FO betwen 2005 and 2022 and Djokovic has beaten him 2 twice there in that period.

    The entire tennis tour, minus Djokovic, has done it 1 once.

    So even if it's a losing h2h, Djokovic was able to do it.







    So
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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to RzR on Tue Sep 12 19:48:04 2023
    On 12/09/2023 4:11 pm, RzR wrote:
    On 9/11/2023 3:02 PM, Whisper wrote:
    On 11/09/2023 3:08 pm, RzR wrote:
    On 9/11/2023 4:25 AM, Paul Dorman wrote:
    Yes, there are many Djoker haters here, and to be
    honest, I wanted Medvedev to win today too.

    But facts are facts, and the Djoker's record speaks
    for itself.

    And he obviously not done YET!  He's got AT LEAST 2-3
    more Slams in him!

    Unbelievable!

    :O

    Hard Court GOAT for sure...more like Australian open GOAT LMAO


    Is this you?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs



    so you are saying in all of their primes, you would pick djoker to beat
    rafa on clay and fed on grass?



    We all have thoughts re who would beat who at prime/peak etc.
    That's an opinion isn't it? It has no real currency, worthless
    essentially. What isn't fantasy is the actual record, facts.

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