Atp rankings are OK. At least rules and point structures have been steady,This Djokovic issue is opposite similar to Graf issue 1988 when she won a minor tournament, but due divisor system her points decreased.Even super anomalies can occur: likeHingis got doubles GS 1998 with two partners (won AO.FO, Wimb, USO), yet it was Zvereva who was #1 with no slam titles..mikko
On 16.9.2023 19.42, *skriptis wrote:> They really don't need to change a lot, leave everything as it is, but increase slam wins from 2000 pts to 4450 or 4500 to make it nice round number.Yawn.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear,and the maiden fair"-- Traditional
They really don't need to change a lot, leave everything as it is, but increase slam wins from 2000 pts to 4450 or 4500 to make it nice round number.
MBDunc <mich...@dnainternet.net> Wrote in message:rHingis got doubles GS 1998 with two partners (won AO.FO, Wimb, USO), yet it was Zvereva who was #1 with no slam titles..mikko
Atp rankings are OK. At least rules and point structures have been steady,This Djokovic issue is opposite similar to Graf issue 1988 when she won a minor tournament, but due divisor system her points decreased.Even super anomalies can occur: like
Yet you started by saying rankings are OK?
;)
No they're not OK.
MBDunc <michaelb@dnainternet.net> Wrote in message:rHingis got doubles GS 1998 with two partners (won AO.FO, Wimb, USO), yet it was Zvereva who was #1 with no slam titles..mikko
Atp rankings are OK. At least rules and point structures have been steady,This Djokovic issue is opposite similar to Graf issue 1988 when she won a minor tournament, but due divisor system her points decreased.Even super anomalies can occur: like
Yet you started by saying rankings are OK?
;)
No they're not OK.
Look we could always debate if it's ok that a guy with 3 slams finishes as #2 and the guy with 1 slam gets #1. I guess it would be subjective and each case for itself.
But I'm willing to say it's ok in theory, I won't push the idea that the guy with 3 slams must be #1 at all costs.
But I am pushing and saying that rankings must, must reflect Grand Slam.
If someone gets it, and wins 0 matches in the rest of the year, he has to be secured as number 1 in terms of points.
It has to be mathematical certainty. That would make rankings credible.
They really don't need to change a lot, leave everything as it is, but increase slam wins from 2000 pts to 4450 or 4500 to make it nice round number.
Whoever wins most slams had the best year and should be no.1. No player
would swap a year for one with less slams than he won to be no.1.
Whoever wins most slams had the best year and should be no.1. No player would swap a year for one with less slams than he won to be no.1.Yup.
On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 4:54:01 AM UTC+3, Ocean Naught wrote:
Yup.Whoever wins most slams had the best year and should be no.1. No player
would swap a year for one with less slams than he won to be no.1.
There is one clear exception 2016.
Murray #1 won Wimbledon, YEC, Olympic Gold
Djokovic #2 won two slams: AO, FO
I think everyone would take Murray's set?
.mikko
On 26/09/2023 11:43 pm, MBDunc wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 4:54:01 AM UTC+3, Ocean Naught wrote:
Yup.Whoever wins most slams had the best year and should be no.1. No player >>> would swap a year for one with less slams than he won to be no.1.
There is one clear exception 2016.
Murray #1 won Wimbledon, YEC, Olympic Gold
Djokovic #2 won two slams: AO, FO
I think everyone would take Murray's set?
.mikko
Yes I think so. That's an extreme example where 1 slam may be better
than 2, if the 1 slam is Wimbledon and you have a gold medal on top.
But in terms of the slam record I'd take the 2 slams if it secured me
the slam king record.
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