On 5/14/2024 4:15 PM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:

Hello!

I just received an email report from TennisTV
a few moments ago. Dominic Thiem has announced
that 2024 will be his last season on the ATP
Tour.

After his wrist injury, Thiem never was the same
player anymore. Quite frankly, his recent results
have been awful. If I were him, I would quit right
away.

However, his greatest achievement, being US Open
champion, will never be forgotten. For several years,
he was out there competing with the very best.

Unfortunately his decline was horrible.

br,
KK

I read many years ago and again in the past few days that many thought
he was playing way too matches every year. Too bad they were proved
right, I always liked watching Thiem.
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Hello!

I just received an email report from TennisTV
a few moments ago. Dominic Thiem has announced
that 2024 will be his last season on the ATP
Tour.

After his wrist injury, Thiem never was the same
player anymore. Quite frankly, his recent results
have been awful. If I were him, I would quit right
away.

However, his greatest achievement, being US Open
champion, will never be forgotten. For several years,
he was out there competing with the very best.

Unfortunately his decline was horrible.

br,
KK

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Scall5 <nospam@home.net> wrote:

I read many years ago and again in the past few days that many thought
he was playing way too matches every year. Too bad they were proved
right, I always liked watching Thiem.

I guess you are right. His body just could not
handle it all. I have also read that Gunther
Bresnik made Thiem to practice something like
10 hours a day. Nobody's body can stand that
for very long.

Necessarily carefully crafted, advanced doping
was part of that practice regime, too. But I
do not hold it against Bresnik or Thiem, because
I know that doping use is necessary in order
to succeed at the highest level.

I am convinced that amphetamine use in tennis
("Adderal pills") makes injuries more likely.
You see, under the influence of amphetamines,
the players *really* work their asses off,
ignoring fatigue and pain. That can cause
injuries because they do not know when to
lighten up or stop.

I also enjoyed Thiem's game when he was playing
at his best. I always like one-handed backhands
and when I played, I was a one-hander as well.

Thiem made it to the Roland Garros final twice,
losing to Nadal both times. Against many others,
he could have won. He was a great player and
has nothing to be ashamed of. I just don't
understand why he wants keep going until 2024
season is over. It is clear that he will not
achieve notable success anymore.

br,
KK

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Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:

I guess you are right. His body just could not
handle it all. I have also read that Gunther
Bresnik made Thiem to practice something like
10 hours a day. Nobody's body can stand that
for very long.

I'd like to add: Bresnik has also said that
without his coaching, Thiem would have been
an ITF Satellite Tour level player. That
means that Thiem would have been below the
ATP Challenger level.

Bresnik's statement may sound a bit arrogant,
but there could be a ring of truth in it.

br,
KK

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kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) Wrote in message:

I just don'tunderstand why he wants keep going until 2024 season is over. It is clear that he will not achieve notable success anymore.br,KK

He wants to enjoy farewell in slams and make his final showing in Vienna in October in front of home crowd, no?


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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> wrote:

He wants to enjoy farewell in slams and
make his final showing in Vienna in October in
front of home crowd, no?

You are probably right. He prefers slow
goodbyes to ending it all right away.

br,
KK

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On 5/14/2024 5:47 PM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:

Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:

I guess you are right. His body just could not
handle it all. I have also read that Gunther
Bresnik made Thiem to practice something like
10 hours a day. Nobody's body can stand that
for very long.

I'd like to add: Bresnik has also said that
without his coaching, Thiem would have been
an ITF Satellite Tour level player. That
means that Thiem would have been below the
ATP Challenger level.

Bresnik's statement may sound a bit arrogant,
but there could be a ring of truth in it.

br,
KK

I will disagree with Bresnik here. Thiem had natural ability that
could/should have been honed better. Ten hour practice days is insane,
at best.
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On 15/05/2024 8:11 am, Scall5 wrote:

On 5/14/2024 4:15 PM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:

Hello!

I just received an email report from TennisTV
a few moments ago. Dominic Thiem has announced
that 2024 will be his last season on the ATP
Tour.

After his wrist injury, Thiem never was the same
player anymore. Quite frankly, his recent results
have been awful. If I were him, I would quit right
away.

However, his greatest achievement, being US Open
champion, will never be forgotten. For several years,
he was out there competing with the very best.

Unfortunately his decline was horrible.

br,
KK

I read many years ago and again in the past few days that many thought
he was playing way too matches every year. Too bad they were proved
right, I always liked watching Thiem.

He's been losing badly in 1st rd of challengers.

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On 15/05/2024 7:15 am, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:

Hello!

I just received an email report from TennisTV
a few moments ago. Dominic Thiem has announced
that 2024 will be his last season on the ATP
Tour.

After his wrist injury, Thiem never was the same
player anymore. Quite frankly, his recent results
have been awful. If I were him, I would quit right
away.

However, his greatest achievement, being US Open
champion, will never be forgotten. For several years,
he was out there competing with the very best.

Unfortunately his decline was horrible.

br,
KK

He won 1 slam in the biggest chokefest I've seen, lucky the big 3 were
absent. He lost an AO final 6-4 in 5th to Novak which is notable as he
led 2-1, and lost 2 routine FO finals to Rafa. Aside from that he's
done fuck all, never won a 1000 etc

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Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r

On 15/05/2024 7:15 am, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> Hello!> > I just received an email report from TennisTV> a few moments ago. Dominic Thiem has announced> that 2024 will be his last season on the ATP> Tour.> > After his wrist injury, Thiem never was the

same> player anymore. Quite frankly, his recent results> have been awful. If I were him, I would quit right> away.> > However, his greatest achievement, being US Open> champion, will never be forgotten. For several years,> he was out there competing with
the very best.> > Unfortunately his decline was horrible.> > br,> KKHe won 1 slam in the biggest chokefest I've seen, lucky the big 3 were absent. He lost an AO final 6-4 in 5th to Novak which is notable as he led 2-1, and lost 2 routine FO finals to
Rafa. Aside from that he's done fuck all, never won a 1000 etc



Well 1 grand slam title, 4 grand slam finals is notable in itself, no?

Add to that 2 YEC finals.






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On 15/05/2024 7:03 pm, *skriptis wrote:

Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r

On 15/05/2024 7:15 am, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> Hello!> > I just received an email report from TennisTV> a few moments ago. Dominic Thiem has announced> that 2024 will be his last season on the ATP> Tour.> > After his wrist injury, Thiem never was the

same> player anymore. Quite frankly, his recent results> have been awful. If I were him, I would quit right> away.> > However, his greatest achievement, being US Open> champion, will never be forgotten. For several years,> he was out there competing with
the very best.> > Unfortunately his decline was horrible.> > br,> KKHe won 1 slam in the biggest chokefest I've seen, lucky the big 3 were absent. He lost an AO final 6-4 in 5th to Novak which is notable as he led 2-1, and lost 2 routine FO finals to
Rafa. Aside from that he's done fuck all, never won a 1000 etc

Well 1 grand slam title, 4 grand slam finals is notable in itself, no?

Add to that 2 YEC finals.

Yes, he couldn't have expected a better career imo.

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On 15.5.2024 12.07, Whisper wrote:

On 15/05/2024 7:03 pm, *skriptis wrote:

Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r

On 15/05/2024 7:15 am, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> Hello!> > I just
received an email report from TennisTV> a few moments ago. Dominic
Thiem has announced> that 2024 will be his last season on the ATP>
Tour.> > After his wrist injury, Thiem never was the same> player
anymore. Quite frankly, his recent results> have been awful. If I
were him, I would quit right> away.> > However, his greatest
achievement, being US Open> champion, will never be forgotten. For
several years,> he was out there competing with the very best.> >
Unfortunately his decline was horrible.> > br,> KKHe won 1 slam in
the biggest chokefest I've seen, lucky the big 3 were absent.  He
lost an AO final 6-4 in 5th to Novak which is notable as he led 2-1,
and lost 2 routine FO finals to Rafa.  Aside from that he's done fuck
all, never won a 1000 etc

Well 1 grand slam title, 4 grand slam finals is notable in itself, no?

Add to that 2 YEC finals.

Yes, he couldn't have expected a better career imo.

In hindsight, probably right. I always wanted him to win more, but
them's them breaks.

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On 16/05/2024 1:44 pm, PeteWasLucky wrote:

Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> Wrote in message:r

On 15/05/2024 7:15 am, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:> Hello!> > I just received an email report from TennisTV> a few moments ago. Dominic Thiem has announced> that 2024 will be his last season on the ATP> Tour.> > After his wrist injury, Thiem never was the

same> player anymore. Quite frankly, his recent results> have been awful. If I were him, I would quit right> away.> > However, his greatest achievement, being US Open> champion, will never be forgotten. For several years,> he was out there competing with
the very best.> > Unfortunately his decline was horrible.> > br,> KKHe won 1 slam in the biggest chokefest I've seen, lucky the big 3 were absent. He lost an AO final 6-4 in 5th to Novak which is notable as he led 2-1, and lost 2 routine FO finals to
Rafa. Aside from that he's done fuck all, never won a 1000 etc

Wrong, he won Indian wells.

I meant on clay

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