Alcaraz will end up as Sampras.

We will never know his true potential.
He doesn't have and won't have tier 1 rivals.


At times it feels he's more exquisite than Big 3 so he would have no trouble competing and regularly beating them and reaching their level (or more) if challenged, ie rising to the occasion, OTOH if you look at what's going on, he needed 5 sets to beat
non-slammer and clay is arguably his best surface?


He (we) are really unlucky in that sense. He will remain a mystery.





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On 10/06/2024 3:51 am, *skriptis wrote:

Alcaraz will end up as Sampras.

We will never know his true potential.
He doesn't have and won't have tier 1 rivals.

At times it feels he's more exquisite than Big 3 so he would have no trouble competing and regularly beating them and reaching their level (or more) if challenged, ie rising to the occasion, OTOH if you look at what's going on, he needed 5 sets to beat

non-slammer and clay is arguably his best surface?

He (we) are really unlucky in that sense. He will remain a mystery.

I think he and Sinner were both carrying injuries the whole tournament.
Carlos didn't play any tune-ups which is unusual for a guy who goes on
to win FO. I don't think the big 3 ever won a FO with no tune-ups?

At any rate it's a fantastic start to a career for Carlos. He's
averaging at least 1 slam win every year & had a yr-end No.1 already.

It's funny that Carlos' 1st FO final was far tougher than any of the 14
Nadal played, he was never pushed to a 5th set.

There's a good chance Carlos wins AO and becomes youngest ever career
slammer. He'll prob win Olympic gold this yr too on the clay.

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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> Alcaraz will end up as Sampras.We will never know his true potential.He doesn't have and won't have tier 1 rivals.At times it feels he's more exquisite than Big 3 so he would have no trouble

competing and regularly beating them and reaching their level (or more) if challenged, ie rising to the occasion, OTOH if you look at what's going on, he needed 5 sets to beat non-slammer and clay is arguably his best surface?He (we) are really unlucky
in that sense. He will remain a mystery.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlGive him a break Skriptis, the kid just turned 21 and won every slam final he played winning three majors on three
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He doesn't need a break from me nor I'm after him. Quite the contrary.

I am aware how much impressive is what he has done.

Surface slam at the age of 21.


Federer at 27, Agassi and Djokovic at 29, Nadal at 22. Connors and Wilander were older probably as well.

So it's phenomenal.



But he will face same bias that e.g. Sampras or Serena faced.

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On 9.6.2024 20.57, PeteWasLucky wrote:

*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r

Alcaraz will end up as Sampras.We will never know his true potential.He doesn't have and won't have tier 1 rivals.At times it feels he's more exquisite than Big 3 so he would have no trouble competing and regularly beating them and reaching their

level (or more) if challenged, ie rising to the occasion, OTOH if you look at what's going on, he needed 5 sets to beat non-slammer and clay is arguably his best surface?He (we) are really unlucky in that sense. He will remain a mystery.-- ----Android
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Give him a break Skriptis, the kid just turned 21 and won every
slam final he played winning three majors on three surfaces.

He's a terrific player alright. But this match wasn't about tennis or
tennis skills at all. What is was about, maybe we'll know better later.
Maybe not.

It was a dreadful affair. Matches like these should not be allowed to go
five sets. An ump should step in, stop the action and announce the
winner. Maybe toss a coin.

I missed Iga the whole match.

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On 10/06/2024 4:08 am, Pelle Svanslös wrote:

On 9.6.2024 20.57, PeteWasLucky wrote:

*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r

Alcaraz will end up as Sampras.We will never know his true
potential.He doesn't have and won't have tier 1 rivals.At times it
feels he's more exquisite than Big 3 so he would have no trouble
competing and regularly beating them and reaching their level (or
more) if challenged, ie rising to the occasion, OTOH if you look at
what's going on, he needed 5 sets to beat non-slammer and clay is
arguably his best surface?He (we) are really unlucky in that sense.
He will remain a mystery.-- ----Android NewsGroup
Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

Give him a break Skriptis, the kid just turned 21 and won every
  slam final he played winning three majors on three surfaces.

He's a terrific player alright. But this match wasn't about tennis or
tennis skills at all. What is was about, maybe we'll know better later.
Maybe not.

It was a dreadful affair. Matches like these should not be allowed to go
five sets. An ump should step in, stop the action and announce the
winner. Maybe toss a coin.

I missed Iga the whole match.

Carlos is not at peak yet, still has a lot to learn strategically. His
natural instincts are great for his age. I could tell he was
compromised physically but he hid it well. The 3 sets he won were
routine regardless, 61 62 63. Also lost a set from 5-2 up. I can see
him smashing some easy slam finals in next few yrs like 61 60 61 type : )

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On 9.6.2024 20.57, PeteWasLucky wrote:> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r>> Alcaraz will end up as Sampras.We will never know his true potential.He doesn't have and won't have tier 1 rivals.At times it feels he's more exquisite than

Big 3 so he would have no trouble competing and regularly beating them and reaching their level (or more) if challenged, ie rising to the occasion, OTOH if you look at what's going on, he needed 5 sets to beat non-slammer and clay is arguably his best
surface?He (we) are really unlucky in that sense. He will remain a mystery.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html> > Give him a break Skriptis, the kid just turned 21 and won every> slam final
he played winning three majors on three surfaces.He's a terrific player alright. But this match wasn't about tennis or tennis skills at all. What is was about, maybe we'll know better later. Maybe not.It was a dreadful affair. Matches like these should
not be allowed to go five sets. An ump should step in, stop the action and announce the winner. Maybe toss a coin.I missed Iga the whole match.-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- Traditional



Zverev seems to be a weirdo.


If he wasn't trying to unsettle Alcaraz, why did he do all that nonsense with line calls, objections and not simply accepting it?

Not moving to the next point is bad even for players who sometimes use anger and frustration after questionable calls to play better. But even for them, it's a bad option. E.g. even Djokovic gets 50% from it, at best.


For someone like Zverev, who is not the strongest mental player, who hasn't won a slam, and who actually played well enough and didn't need such distractions, wasting time and focus on line calls is an absolute idiocy.


I wonder why can't he realize that all of his dedication to training, fitness and nutritional regimes etc are flushed down the toilet if he can't just make a simple commitment to the most basic mental part of the game during the matches.

Do not shoot your own leg basically.
It doesn't seem so difficult for me.

I guess it's why Lendl left?

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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r> Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:r> On 9.6.2024 20.57, PeteWasLucky wrote:> *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r>> Alcaraz will end up as Sampras.We will never

know his true potential.He doesn't have and won't have tier 1 rivals.At times it feels he's more exquisite than Big 3 so he would have no trouble competing and regularly beating them and reaching their level (or more) if challenged, ie rising to the
occasion, OTOH if you look at what's going on, he needed 5 sets to beat non-slammer and clay is arguably his best surface?He (we) are really unlucky in that sense. He will remain a mystery.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.
amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html> > Give him a break Skriptis, the kid just turned 21 and won every> slam final he played winning three majors on three surfaces.He's a terrific player alright. But this match wasn't about tennis or tennis skills at all.
What is was about, maybe we'll know better later. Maybe not.It was a dreadful affair. Matches like these should not be allowed to go five sets. An ump should step in, stop the action and announce the winner. Maybe toss a coin.I missed Iga the whole match.
-- "And off they went, from here to there,The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"-- TraditionalZverev seems to be a weirdo.If he wasn't trying to unsettle Alcaraz, why did he do all that nonsense with line calls, objections and not simply accepting it?
Not moving to the next point is bad even for players who sometimes use anger and frustration after questionable calls to play better. But even for them, it's a bad option. E.g. even Djokovic gets 50% from it, at best.For someone like Zverev, who is not
the strongest mental player, who hasn't won a slam, and who actually played well enough and didn't need such distractions, wasting time and focus on line calls is an absolute idiocy.I wonder why can't he realize that all of his dedication to training,
fitness and nutritional regimes etc are flushed down the toilet if he can't just make a simple commitment to the most basic mental part of the game during the matches.Do not shoot your own leg basically.It doesn't seem so difficult for me.I guess it's
why Lendl left?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlHave you noticed that he always puts his hand on the umpire during disputes, men or women, and hold their arms?-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader--
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No. Didn't see that.

It's a sign he's into physical stuff.
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On 6/9/2024 1:08 PM, Pelle Svanslös wrote:

On 9.6.2024 20.57, PeteWasLucky wrote:

*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> Wrote in message:r

Alcaraz will end up as Sampras.We will never know his true
potential.He doesn't have and won't have tier 1 rivals.At times it
feels he's more exquisite than Big 3 so he would have no trouble
competing and regularly beating them and reaching their level (or
more) if challenged, ie rising to the occasion, OTOH if you look at
what's going on, he needed 5 sets to beat non-slammer and clay is
arguably his best surface?He (we) are really unlucky in that sense.
He will remain a mystery.-- ----Android NewsGroup
Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

Give him a break Skriptis, the kid just turned 21 and won every
  slam final he played winning three majors on three surfaces.

He's a terrific player alright. But this match wasn't about tennis or
tennis skills at all. What is was about, maybe we'll know better later.
Maybe not.

It was a dreadful affair. Matches like these should not be allowed to go
five sets. An ump should step in, stop the action and announce the
winner. Maybe toss a coin.

Give that a break. Many great sporting matches or events have happened
when one or both players/teams weren't at their best. We saw many high
quality points and shots today. Perhaps you were watching a different
match than I?

I missed Iga the whole match.

She is amazing to watch.
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