• Re: OT: An interesting development is Hollywood

    From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 11 23:04:37 2024
    Sawfish kirjoitti 11.6.2024 klo 19.14:
    Here in the US there has been a lot of TV exposure for a big budget
    summer film directed by, and starring, Kevin Costner. It's set in the
    American west in the period 1861-1864.

    In viewing the trailers something jumped out at me: there appears to
    have been no attempt to include actors of color to meet casting
    quotas--you know, that woke policy that allow us to understand that
    there were quite a few black courtiers in the merry Olde England of
    several centuries ago.

    Looking at the extensive cast list briefly, I saw only one black
    person.

    Consider that Costner, riding on the wave of the very successful TV
    series, Yellowstone, draws a lot of water in Hollywood right now.

    Is this to be a new trend--to ignore DEI casting sensibilities?


    So there goes the Oscar nomination.

    Watched couple episodes of the new Star Wars series THE ACOLYTE. Lead is
    a black girl and I think in first episode there weren't any white
    male characters apart from one male convict with a 30 seconds role. Even
    a bunch of jedi kids were all coloured.

    There was at least one white male in ep2, but he was swiftly killed off (Dean-Charles Chapman as Torbin).

    Cast:

    Amandla Stenberg as Osha/Mae - black woman.. non-binary, they/them
    Lee Jung-jae as Sol - South Korean
    Manny Jacinto as Qimir - Filipino-Chinese
    Dafne Keen as Jecki Lon - white woman
    Charlie Barnett as Yord Fandar - black
    Jodie Turner-Smith as Mother Aniseya - black
    Rebecca Henderson as Vernestra Rwoh - white lesbian
    Carrie-Anne Moss as Indara - white woman
    Dean-Charles Chapman as Torbin - WHITE MALE, 2 min role
    Margarita Levieva as Mother Koril - white woman
    Abigail Thorn as Ensign Eurus - white lesbian woman
    Leah and Lauren Brady as young Osha and Mae - black girls
    Amy Tsang as TBC - Chinese
    David Harewood as TBC - black

    Guaranteed Kathleen Kennedy quality.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Tue Jun 11 23:35:58 2024
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 6/11/24 1:04 PM, TT wrote:> Sawfish kirjoitti 11.6.2024 klo 19.14:>> Here in the US there has been a lot of TV exposure for a big budget >> summer film directed by, and starring, Kevin Costner. It's set in the>> American west in the period 1861-
    1864.>>>> In viewing the trailers something jumped out at me: there appears to>> have been no attempt to include actors of color to meet casting >> quotas--you know, that woke policy that allow us to understand that >> there were quite a few black
    courtiers in the merry Olde England of >> several centuries ago.>>>> Looking at the extensive cast list briefly, I saw only one black>> person.>>>> Consider that Costner, riding on the wave of the very successful TV >> series, Yellowstone, draws a lot of
    water in Hollywood right now.>>>> Is this to be a new trend--to ignore DEI casting sensibilities?>>>> So there goes the Oscar nomination.>> Watched couple episodes of the new Star Wars series THE ACOLYTE. Lead is> a black girl and I think in first
    episode there weren't any white> male characters apart from one male convict with a 30 seconds role. > Even a bunch of jedi kids were all coloured.>> There was at least one white male in ep2, but he was swiftly killed > off (Dean-Charles Chapman as
    Torbin).>> Cast:>> Amandla Stenberg as Osha/Mae - black woman.. non-binary, they/them> Lee Jung-jae as Sol - South Korean> Manny Jacinto as Qimir - Filipino-Chinese> Dafne Keen as Jecki Lon - white woman> Charlie Barnett as Yord Fandar - black> Jodie
    Turner-Smith as Mother Aniseya - black> Rebecca Henderson as Vernestra Rwoh - white lesbian> Carrie-Anne Moss as Indara - white woman> Dean-Charles Chapman as Torbin - WHITE MALE, 2 min role> Margarita Levieva as Mother Koril - white woman> Abigail Thorn
    as Ensign Eurus - white lesbian woman> Leah and Lauren Brady as young Osha and Mae - black girls> Amy Tsang as TBC - Chinese> David Harewood as TBC - black>> Guaranteed Kathleen Kennedy quality.Well, if you want US TV commercials, you come away with the
    impression that the US is 60% black.



    Why don't whites rebel to this commercial tyranny and abuse?


    Why are they so passive and weak?



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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 12 14:14:19 2024
    Sawfish kirjoitti 12.6.2024 klo 0.29:
    On 6/11/24 1:04 PM, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 11.6.2024 klo 19.14:
    Here in the US there has been a lot of TV exposure for a big budget
    summer film directed by, and starring, Kevin Costner. It's set in the
     American west in the period 1861-1864.

    In viewing the trailers something jumped out at me: there appears to
     have been no attempt to include actors of color to meet casting
    quotas--you know, that woke policy that allow us to understand that
    there were quite a few black courtiers in the merry Olde England of
    several centuries ago.

    Looking at the extensive cast list briefly, I saw only one black
    person.

    Consider that Costner, riding on the wave of the very successful TV
    series, Yellowstone, draws a lot of water in Hollywood right now.

    Is this to be a new trend--to ignore DEI casting sensibilities?


    So there goes the Oscar nomination.

    Watched couple episodes of the new Star Wars series THE ACOLYTE. Lead is
    a black girl and I think in first episode there weren't any white
    male characters apart from one male convict with a 30 seconds role.
    Even a bunch of jedi kids were all coloured.

    There was at least one white male in ep2, but he was swiftly killed
    off (Dean-Charles Chapman as Torbin).

    Cast:

    Amandla Stenberg as Osha/Mae - black woman.. non-binary, they/them
    Lee Jung-jae as Sol - South Korean
    Manny Jacinto as Qimir - Filipino-Chinese
    Dafne Keen as Jecki Lon - white woman
    Charlie Barnett as Yord Fandar - black
    Jodie Turner-Smith as Mother Aniseya - black
    Rebecca Henderson as Vernestra Rwoh - white lesbian
    Carrie-Anne Moss as Indara - white woman
    Dean-Charles Chapman as Torbin - WHITE MALE, 2 min role
    Margarita Levieva as Mother Koril - white woman
    Abigail Thorn as Ensign Eurus - white lesbian woman
    Leah and Lauren Brady as young Osha and Mae - black girls
    Amy Tsang as TBC - Chinese
    David Harewood as TBC - black

    Guaranteed Kathleen Kennedy quality.

    Well, if you want US TV commercials, you come away with the impression
    that the US is 60% black.


    And let me guess... commercials have lots of white woman & black male couples... but none white male & black/asian woman couples?

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 12 14:21:59 2024
    PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 12.6.2024 klo 6.39:

    Ratings generate the money and money is what they are after and is what makes or alter the rules and policies. Give it time.

    Well, it's not like DEI departments in companies etc increase productivity/profit... it's driven by ideology, not money.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 14 00:05:20 2024
    Sawfish kirjoitti 12.6.2024 klo 16.07:
    On 6/12/24 4:14 AM, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 12.6.2024 klo 0.29:
    On 6/11/24 1:04 PM, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 11.6.2024 klo 19.14:
    Here in the US there has been a lot of TV exposure for a big budget
    summer film directed by, and starring, Kevin Costner. It's set in the >>>>>  American west in the period 1861-1864.

    In viewing the trailers something jumped out at me: there appears to >>>>>  have been no attempt to include actors of color to meet casting
    quotas--you know, that woke policy that allow us to understand that
    there were quite a few black courtiers in the merry Olde England of
    several centuries ago.

    Looking at the extensive cast list briefly, I saw only one black
    person.

    Consider that Costner, riding on the wave of the very successful TV
    series, Yellowstone, draws a lot of water in Hollywood right now.

    Is this to be a new trend--to ignore DEI casting sensibilities?


    So there goes the Oscar nomination.

    Watched couple episodes of the new Star Wars series THE ACOLYTE.
    Lead is
    a black girl and I think in first episode there weren't any white
    male characters apart from one male convict with a 30 seconds role.
    Even a bunch of jedi kids were all coloured.

    There was at least one white male in ep2, but he was swiftly killed
    off (Dean-Charles Chapman as Torbin).

    Cast:

    Amandla Stenberg as Osha/Mae - black woman.. non-binary, they/them
    Lee Jung-jae as Sol - South Korean
    Manny Jacinto as Qimir - Filipino-Chinese
    Dafne Keen as Jecki Lon - white woman
    Charlie Barnett as Yord Fandar - black
    Jodie Turner-Smith as Mother Aniseya - black
    Rebecca Henderson as Vernestra Rwoh - white lesbian
    Carrie-Anne Moss as Indara - white woman
    Dean-Charles Chapman as Torbin - WHITE MALE, 2 min role
    Margarita Levieva as Mother Koril - white woman
    Abigail Thorn as Ensign Eurus - white lesbian woman
    Leah and Lauren Brady as young Osha and Mae - black girls
    Amy Tsang as TBC - Chinese
    David Harewood as TBC - black

    Guaranteed Kathleen Kennedy quality.

    Well, if you want US TV commercials, you come away with the
    impression that the US is 60% black.


    And let me guess... commercials have lots of white woman & black male
    couples... but none white male & black/asian woman couples?

    What you see most commonly on TV ads currently in multi-racial pairings
    seem to be white female, black male, then white male Asian female, then
    white males, then white/black males.


    Surely white male/asian female breaks some diversity rule. White male is
    not allowed to sample foreign delicacies, that's reserved for liberal women.

    As for white female/black male, that's most shunned by (white) society
    thus that brings the most impact...
    I guess they think that if you show it enough it becomes acceptable.

    Gay couples in TV ads? Yukh.

    It's hard to recall seeing a white male with a black female--although it seems vaguely familiar.


    It's all fun and games until losing your "own" men to diversity.

    Asian males are seen as either the head of a family, or alone.

    Now, what I see in real life here on the US west coast for hetero
    biracial pairings is:

    White male/Asian female by far the most

    Black male/white female

    Black male/Asian female (not often)

    White female/Asian male and white male/black female (both very rare)

    Basically you see black females and Asian males left out in the cold in
    this sort of pairing.

    I've never yet seen an Asian male/black female.


    Wonder what's up with that...

    There are exceptions, and this is a quick subjective recollection, but I think it's close.


    Thanks

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