• Who Won The First Biden-Trump Presidential Debate?

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 29 09:43:43 2024
    President Joe Biden turned in a dismal performance at the first
    presidential general-election debate on Thursday night. That was
    certainly the opinion of many pundits reacting in real time, but thanks
    to a new 538/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos’s KnowledgePanel, we now
    know it’s how American voters felt as well.

    However, while Biden’s hoarse and stumbling delivery immediately sent
    many Democrats into a panic about their chances of winning in November,
    our poll also found that the debate didn’t change many voters’ minds
    about either candidate. Read on for full details.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-trump-june-debate-poll/

    TBH, Papa Joe's prospects were gloomy before the "debate". Not changing
    many minds is not really leading cheers.

    Good luck, Americans. Good luck, Europe.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 29 14:03:32 2024
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 29.6.2024 klo 9.43:
    President Joe Biden turned in a dismal performance at the first
    presidential general-election debate on Thursday night. That was
    certainly the opinion of many pundits reacting in real time, but thanks
    to a new 538/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos’s KnowledgePanel, we now
    know it’s how American voters felt as well.

    However, while Biden’s hoarse and stumbling delivery immediately sent
    many Democrats into a panic about their chances of winning in November,
    our poll also found that the debate didn’t change many voters’ minds about either candidate. Read on for full details.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-trump-june-debate-poll/

    TBH, Papa Joe's prospects were gloomy before the "debate". Not changing
    many minds is not really leading cheers.

    Good luck, Americans. Good luck, Europe.


    "Which issues matter most?"

    ...Inflation & immigration.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 29 21:16:14 2024
    On 29.6.2024 14.03, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 29.6.2024 klo 9.43:
    President Joe Biden turned in a dismal performance at the first
    presidential general-election debate on Thursday night. That was
    certainly the opinion of many pundits reacting in real time, but
    thanks to a new 538/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos’s KnowledgePanel,
    we now know it’s how American voters felt as well.

    However, while Biden’s hoarse and stumbling delivery immediately sent
    many Democrats into a panic about their chances of winning in
    November, our poll also found that the debate didn’t change many
    voters’ minds about either candidate. Read on for full details.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-trump-june-debate-poll/

    TBH, Papa Joe's prospects were gloomy before the "debate". Not
    changing many minds is not really leading cheers.

    Good luck, Americans. Good luck, Europe.


    "Which issues matter most?"

    ...Inflation & immigration.

    “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best
    colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him
    somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”

    ― Lyndon B. Johnson

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to pelle@svans.los on Sun Jun 30 00:10:43 2024
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:
    “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”― Lyndon B. Johnson





    If you believe a man or any individual can be "lowest" among other individuals, which you clearly do:

    "If you can convince the lowest white man"


    Then races or any collective groups can be lowest to.





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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 01:18:07 2024
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 29.6.2024 klo 21.16:
    On 29.6.2024 14.03, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 29.6.2024 klo 9.43:
    President Joe Biden turned in a dismal performance at the first
    presidential general-election debate on Thursday night. That was
    certainly the opinion of many pundits reacting in real time, but
    thanks to a new 538/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos’s
    KnowledgePanel, we now know it’s how American voters felt as well.

    However, while Biden’s hoarse and stumbling delivery immediately sent
    many Democrats into a panic about their chances of winning in
    November, our poll also found that the debate didn’t change many
    voters’ minds about either candidate. Read on for full details.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-trump-june-debate-poll/

    TBH, Papa Joe's prospects were gloomy before the "debate". Not
    changing many minds is not really leading cheers.

    Good luck, Americans. Good luck, Europe.


    "Which issues matter most?"

    ...Inflation & immigration.

    “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best
    colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”

    ― Lyndon B. Johnson


    It works the other way around as well...

    If you can convince the lowest white man he's more noble than his
    countrymen, he won't notice you're destroying his security, healthcare, culture, economy and state. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and
    he'll empty his pockets for you.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 02:25:51 2024
    TT kirjoitti 30.6.2024 klo 1.18:

    It works the other way around as well...

    If you can convince the lowest white man he's more noble than his
    countrymen, he won't notice you're destroying his security, healthcare, culture, economy and state with immigration. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

    Fixed for clarity.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 02:21:55 2024
    Sawfish kirjoitti 30.6.2024 klo 2.03:
    On 6/29/24 3:18 PM, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 29.6.2024 klo 21.16:
    On 29.6.2024 14.03, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 29.6.2024 klo 9.43:
    President Joe Biden turned in a dismal performance at the first
    presidential general-election debate on Thursday night. That was
    certainly the opinion of many pundits reacting in real time, but
    thanks to a new 538/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos’s
    KnowledgePanel, we now know it’s how American voters felt as well. >>>>>
    However, while Biden’s hoarse and stumbling delivery immediately
    sent many Democrats into a panic about their chances of winning in
    November, our poll also found that the debate didn’t change many
    voters’ minds about either candidate. Read on for full details.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-trump-june-debate-poll/

    TBH, Papa Joe's prospects were gloomy before the "debate". Not
    changing many minds is not really leading cheers.

    Good luck, Americans. Good luck, Europe.


    "Which issues matter most?"

    ...Inflation & immigration.

    “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best
    colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give
    him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”

    ― Lyndon B. Johnson


    It works the other way around as well...

    If you can convince the lowest white man he's more noble than his
    countrymen, he won't notice you're destroying his security,
    healthcare, culture, economy and state. Hell, give him somebody to
    look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

    If true, it speaks volume to the self-esteem of poor white trash.

    Actually, it would explain a lot that I've seen over the years.

    And with blacks, currently you have the opposite here in the US: wildly optimistic self-worth. This has been cultivated during the woke era.

    What a fucking mess...


    Yes.

    I was of course referring to white trash such as Pelle, who support immigration, Palestine, gender nonsense etc virtue signalling in order
    to feel better about themselves.

    But all social classes have them. However the most passionate
    immigration (& Palestine) supporters come from low income left - such as
    the former communist party (Vasemmistoliitto) and the greens. Social
    democrats are big on immigration as well.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 16:41:40 2024
    On 30.6.2024 2.25, TT wrote:
    TT kirjoitti 30.6.2024 klo 1.18:

    It works the other way around as well...

    If you can convince the lowest white man he's more noble than his
    countrymen,

    Awww. Tiny Tits of Finland deflecting the night away. How much more fun
    can you have!

    But ... , you know, I'm not the one advocating for "Concentration camps
    will be the final solution to our immigration crisis". Or the one sorry
    that the stabber wanting to spark race wars failed to kill. You are.

    Accept the lane you're on.

    he won't notice you're destroying his security,
    healthcare, culture, economy and state

    Oh, my.

    Here's another crackpot that thinks alike:

    https://hs.mediadelivery.fi/img/978/3f74694d8dac9fd7b3b2331fda7b3cfb.jpg.webp

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 16:52:40 2024
    On 30.6.2024 1.10, *skriptis wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:
    “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”― Lyndon B. Johnson





    If you believe a man or any individual can be "lowest" among other individuals, which you clearly do:


    LBJ was the civil rights prez. I don't think by "lowest" he meant
    anything other than the most susceptible to idiocy. There always are
    those. Frustrated wankers like Tiny of Finland that need guardians and
    keepers. Even they should be allowed civil rights and definitely all
    sorts of benefits. That way they troll the net instead of prowling the
    streets. Idle young men have been a menace to societies throughout history.

    Us nannies can be very pragmatic too.

    "If you can convince the lowest white man"


    Then races or any collective groups can be lowest to.

    Should be now settled.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to pelle@svans.los on Sun Jun 30 16:19:42 2024
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:
    LBJ was the civil rights prez. I don't think by "lowest" he meant anything other than the most susceptible to idiocy.


    So we'll do mind reading from now on?







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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sun Jun 30 16:54:52 2024
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 6/30/24 7:19 AM, *skriptis wrote:> Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:>> LBJ was the civil rights prez. I don't think by "lowest" he meant anything other than the most susceptible to idiocy.>> So we'll do mind reading from now on?>>>>
    The odds are he meant what we term here in the US "trailer trash", or "poor white trash". He wasn't referring to mental status (IQ, "idiocy"), exactly, but a cultural grouping. Now, it could be that there's a lot of overlap, but this culture--among
    whom I grew up as a sort of cultural outsider--had a fairly normal Gauss curve so far as intelligence. They weren't over-represented in the top quartile, but they weren't all total idiots, either. They tend to carry the social burden of generational
    failure, and for white culture here, in general, this automatically shoves you into the 2nd-class citizen category. So to grasp at a sort of psychologically satisfying straw, they were eager to find a 3rd (or lower) class to point to and abuse, when
    possible.LBJ was, in my opinion, a cynical and opportunistic career politician, with a streak of countrified arrogance. A crooked horsetrader, really. If his goals were similar to yours, you'd benefit because he very often got what he was after. The
    election he bowed out of as the sitting pres (1968) was the first one I was old enough to vote in.-- --Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"I wouldn't want to belong to a club that would accept someone like
    meas a member." --G. Marx



    So he can insult and mock group of whites but they're not supposed to return the favour?

    It's all so tiresome.

    Luckily most of the stuff that happened in those days are no longer relevant.

    New history is being written.



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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 18:48:50 2024
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 30.6.2024 klo 16.52:
    On 30.6.2024 1.10, *skriptis wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:
    “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best
    colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give
    him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”― >>> Lyndon B. Johnson





    If you believe a man or any individual can be "lowest" among other
    individuals, which you clearly do:


    LBJ was the civil rights prez. I don't think by "lowest" he meant
    anything other than the most susceptible to idiocy. There always are
    those. Frustrated wankers like Tiny of Finland that need guardians and keepers. Even they should be allowed civil rights and definitely all
    sorts of benefits. That way they troll the net instead of prowling the streets. Idle young men have been a menace to societies throughout history.


    Seems that I reside in your head rent free.

    Maybe you should look in the mirror & check your language before
    starting your virtue signalling. You had to change a country at least
    twice to run away from your problems. Do even your relatives hate you
    that much?

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 30 19:09:26 2024
    Sawfish kirjoitti 30.6.2024 klo 18.43:
    There's a whole lot of apocryphal stuff attributed to LBJ. One I heard,
    years and years ago, was that if a political or person al adversary had
    to come to him for a favor, or even simply a personal audience, he
    sometimes a greed to meet with them when he was on the toilet, taking a
    crap. This as a display power and disregard.

    Now, whether to believe any of this or not...

    Maybe not. Then again no smoke without fire.

    Idi Amin reportedly kept severed heads of his political rivals in his refrigerator... and showed them to his guests.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 1 17:20:26 2024
    The Iceberg kirjoitti 1.7.2024 klo 16.31:
    you could quote LBJGTQ's other one about "I'll have those n*****s voting Democrat for two-hundred years"

    Also:

    "Son, when I appoint a nigger to the court, I want everyone to know he's
    a nigger."

    -

    Biographer Caro also notes that Johnson is said to have replied as
    follows to a black chauffeur who told him he'd prefer to be called by
    name instead of "boy," "nigger" or "chief":

    "As long as you are black, and you're gonna be black till the day you
    die, no one's gonna call you by your goddamn name. So no matter what you
    are called, nigger, you just let it roll off your back like water, and
    you'll make it. Just pretend you're a goddamn piece of furniture."

    I'm starting to like this guy...

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to The Iceberg on Tue Jul 2 11:37:53 2024
    On 1.7.2024 16.38, The Iceberg wrote:
    On 30/06/2024 16:48, TT wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 30.6.2024 klo 16.52:
    On 30.6.2024 1.10, *skriptis wrote:
    Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los> Wrote in message:
    “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best >>>>> colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give
    him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for
    you.”― Lyndon B. Johnson





    If you believe a man or any individual can be "lowest" among other
    individuals, which you clearly do:


    LBJ was the civil rights prez. I don't think by "lowest" he meant
    anything other than the most susceptible to idiocy. There always are
    those. Frustrated wankers like Tiny of Finland that need guardians
    and keepers. Even they should be allowed civil rights and definitely
    all sorts of benefits. That way they troll the net instead of
    prowling the streets. Idle young men have been a menace to societies
    throughout history.


    Seems that I reside in your head rent free.

    Maybe you should look in the mirror & check your language before
    starting your virtue signalling. You had to change a country at least
    twice to run away from your problems. Do even your relatives hate you
    that much?

    sad thing is Pelle won't go and live in Africa, Middle East or Asia.

    What difference would that make to you? Just like someone can groom a
    Finnskie right-wing terrorist from the UK, I'd continue posting my
    unhappy letters to RST from Zansibar!

    Ha ha ha ha. The power of the intwernet supa highway!

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