• Trump shot

    From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 02:08:18 2024
    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1812259124782019054

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 02:46:59 2024
    TT kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 2.19:
    TT kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 2.08:
    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1812259124782019054

    https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1812262641848717657

    The shooter who reportedly fired shots at former President Trump's rally
    on Saturday is confirmed dead, a source confirmed to Fox News.

    The Associated Press was also told by the Butler County District
    Attorney that the shooter is deceased.

    A law enforcement source told Fox News that two "additional casualties," presumably including the deceased attendee, have been taken to a
    Pittsburgh hospital.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 02:58:05 2024
    PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 2.43:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1812259124782019054

    I don't know how he got shot in the right ear while he was looking right covering that angle except the shot came from the back.

    I can see how it happened. The shot nipped upside of his ear. Couple cm
    and Trump's brains would've been on the ground.

    Now he is the next president. The image I posted in first post is just
    too powerful, if unaltered. Reminds me a pic of flags of iwo jima.

    Also reminds a couple of films...

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 02:19:36 2024
    TT kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 2.08:
    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1812259124782019054

    https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1812262641848717657

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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sat Jul 13 22:36:18 2024
    On 7/13/2024 9:43 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    The poor guy hit the floor faster than a corpse.

    What do you mean by this?


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    I mean he (Trump) ducked faster than anyone else could even react. This
    from a guy who said he'd have gone into the Parkland school unarmed to
    stop the shooter.

    I have voted for 3rd party candidates for a long time now. Hated the
    GOP/DEM duopoly system and how inefficient they are at managing the
    federal budget. But imbeciles like you, jdeluise, just made me a MAGA
    voter.

    Congrats, I guess...
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    Scall5

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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sat Jul 13 22:58:09 2024
    On 7/13/2024 10:43 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    On 7/13/2024 9:43 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    The poor guy hit the floor faster than a corpse.

    What do you mean by this?


    ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
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    I mean he (Trump) ducked faster than anyone else could even
    react. This from a guy who said he'd have gone into the Parkland
    school unarmed to stop the shooter.

    I have voted for 3rd party candidates for a long time now. Hated the
    GOP/DEM duopoly system and how inefficient they are at managing the
    federal budget. But imbeciles like you, jdeluise, just made me a MAGA
    voter.

    Congrats, I guess...

    Look it up, he did say that.

    He hit the floor and then got up faster than the Secret Service wanted
    him to. Raised a fist as they roughly walked him away. Trump!!!!
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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 13:33:38 2024
    jdeluise kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 12.34:
    The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> writes:

    On 14/07/2024 10:12, The Iceberg wrote:
    On 14/07/2024 04:59, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    On 7/13/2024 10:43 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:

    On 7/13/2024 9:43 PM, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    The poor guy hit the floor faster than a corpse.

    What do you mean by this?


    ----Android NewsGroup Reader----
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html >>>>>>>> I mean he (Trump) ducked faster than anyone else could even
    react. This from a guy who said he'd have gone into the Parkland >>>>>>>> school unarmed to stop the shooter.

    I have voted for 3rd party candidates for a long time now. Hated the >>>>>>> GOP/DEM duopoly system and how inefficient they are at managing the >>>>>>> federal budget. But imbeciles like you, jdeluise, just made me a >>>>>>> MAGA
    voter.

    Congrats, I guess...
    Look it up, he did say that.

    He hit the floor and then got up faster than the Secret Service wanted >>>>> him to. Raised a fist as they roughly walked him away. Trump!!!!

    Sure, when he's got human shields around him he's brave...

    so you're saying Trump can think quicker than any other previous
    leader, even after being shot at!

    No, I'm saying he's a cowardly lion.

    You would have stayed standing there?

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 19:15:15 2024
    PeteWasLucky kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 16.40:
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:>> The poor guy hit the floor faster than a corpse. >> What do you mean by this?>>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader----> https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI mean he (Trump) ducked
    faster than anyone else could even react. This from a guy who said he'd have gone into the Parkland school unarmed to stop the shooter.

    Actually it indicates how alert the guy is and shows great cognitive abilities.
    90% of the people would be freezing.

    He fainted. :)

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 19:19:41 2024
    jdeluise kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 18.38:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 8:25 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 7:32 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:>> The poor guy hit >>>>>>> the floor faster than a corpse. >> What do you mean by this?>>>
    ----Android NewsGroup Reader---->
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI
    mean he (Trump) ducked faster than anyone else could even
    react. This from a guy who said he'd have gone into the Parkland >>>>>>> school unarmed to stop the shooter.

    Actually it indicates how alert the guy is and shows great
    cognitive abilities. 90% of the people would be freezing.

    Or maybe he knew about it ahead of time?

    Please stop now, jd.

    :^(

    No.

    Very well.

    Flail away.

    Of course I don't really believe he knew ahead of time, as I'm sure
    you're aware.  But hey, it's within the realm of possibility, when you
    have you ever shied away from speculation about difficult topics?

    It's not within realm of possibility.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 19:24:18 2024
    jdeluise kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 18.44:
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> writes:

    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 8:25 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 7:32 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:>> The poor guy
    hit
    the floor faster than a corpse. >> What do you mean by this?>>> >>>>>>>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---->
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI >>>>>>>> mean he (Trump) ducked faster than anyone else could even
    react. This from a guy who said he'd have gone into the
    Parkland
    school unarmed to stop the shooter.

    Actually it indicates how alert the guy is and shows great
    cognitive abilities. 90% of the people would be freezing.

    Or maybe he knew about it ahead of time?

    Please stop now, jd.

    :^(

    No.

    Very well.

    Flail away.

    Of course I don't really believe he knew ahead of time, as I'm sure
    you're aware.  But hey, it's within the realm of possibility, when you
    have you ever shied away from speculation about difficult topics?

    Sawfish a few days ago: speculating with *skript that maybe women
    throughout all time actually enjoy being forcibly raped.  Sawfish today: when confronted with the idle speculation that Trump's assassination was staged he says "Please stop now, jd." with no further discussion.

    :-)

    Too accurate shooting for being staged. You don't hit on purpose side of
    an ear from 100 meters+... to a moving target and secret service aiming
    at you & people shouting...

    And even if you did, hypothetically... I wouldn't wanna be the target.
    Goddamn Trump is brave!

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 19:30:55 2024
    Sawfish kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 19.24:
    On 7/14/24 8:38 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 8:25 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 7:32 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:>> The poor guy hit >>>>>>>> the floor faster than a corpse. >> What do you mean by this?>>> >>>>>>>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---->
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI >>>>>>>> mean he (Trump) ducked faster than anyone else could even
    react. This from a guy who said he'd have gone into the Parkland >>>>>>>> school unarmed to stop the shooter.

    Actually it indicates how alert the guy is and shows great
    cognitive abilities. 90% of the people would be freezing.

    Or maybe he knew about it ahead of time?

    Please stop now, jd.

    :^(

    No.

    Very well.

    Flail away.

    Of course I don't really believe he knew ahead of time, as I'm sure
    you're aware.  But hey, it's within the realm of possibility, when you
    have you ever shied away from speculation about difficult topics?

    I missed the smiley... :^)

    It was pretty hard to tell, on this thread, jd.


    No kidding.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 19:39:12 2024
    Sawfish kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 19.31:
    On 7/14/24 8:44 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> writes:

    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 8:25 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 7:32 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:>> The poor guy >>>>>>>>> hit
    the floor faster than a corpse. >> What do you mean by this?>>> >>>>>>>>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---->
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI >>>>>>>>> mean he (Trump) ducked faster than anyone else could even
    react. This from a guy who said he'd have gone into the
    Parkland
    school unarmed to stop the shooter.

    Actually it indicates how alert the guy is and shows great
    cognitive abilities. 90% of the people would be freezing.

    Or maybe he knew about it ahead of time?

    Please stop now, jd.

    :^(

    No.

    Very well.

    Flail away.

    Of course I don't really believe he knew ahead of time, as I'm sure
    you're aware.  But hey, it's within the realm of possibility, when you
    have you ever shied away from speculation about difficult topics?

    Sawfish a few days ago: speculating with *skript that maybe women
    throughout all time actually enjoy being forcibly raped.  Sawfish
    today: when confronted with the idle speculation that Trump's
    assassination was staged he says "Please stop now, jd." with no
    further discussion.

    :-)

    OK, let's talk about the possibility of it being staged.

    Initially, I can't see how all this could have been staged publicly,
    with the involvement of agencies under the control of the current administration--Biden's. THe SS was there, possibly other such agencies. They'd have to be in on it.

    Is this what you think, jd? Or is there another way to have faked it?


    I have to admit that the second time I watched the vid I checked if
    Trump had something in his right hand before touching his ear. Wasn't.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 19:53:50 2024
    TT kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 19.39:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 19.31:
    On 7/14/24 8:44 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> writes:

    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 8:25 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 7:32 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:>> The poor guy >>>>>>>>>> hit
    the floor faster than a corpse. >> What do you mean by this?>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---->
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI >>>>>>>>>> mean he (Trump) ducked faster than anyone else could even
    react. This from a guy who said he'd have gone into the
    Parkland
    school unarmed to stop the shooter.

    Actually it indicates how alert the guy is and shows great
    cognitive abilities. 90% of the people would be freezing.

    Or maybe he knew about it ahead of time?

    Please stop now, jd.

    :^(

    No.

    Very well.

    Flail away.

    Of course I don't really believe he knew ahead of time, as I'm sure
    you're aware.  But hey, it's within the realm of possibility, when you >>>> have you ever shied away from speculation about difficult topics?

    Sawfish a few days ago: speculating with *skript that maybe women
    throughout all time actually enjoy being forcibly raped.  Sawfish
    today: when confronted with the idle speculation that Trump's
    assassination was staged he says "Please stop now, jd." with no
    further discussion.

    :-)

    OK, let's talk about the possibility of it being staged.

    Initially, I can't see how all this could have been staged publicly,
    with the involvement of agencies under the control of the current
    administration--Biden's. THe SS was there, possibly other such
    agencies. They'd have to be in on it.

    Is this what you think, jd? Or is there another way to have faked it?


    I have to admit that the second time I watched the vid I checked if
    Trump had something in his right hand before touching his ear. Wasn't.

    As for conspiracy theory on (some in) SS being in on the plot... I guess
    that's distantly possible but unlikely.
    What I think what happened was that the plan was that sharp shooter(s)
    were covering the area of the roof where the assassin was... If they
    noticed him before the shooting and why they didn't shoot earlier is
    still a mystery. It *seemed* that the sharp shooter was looking that
    direction through the rifle scope just before the first shots fired.

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sun Jul 14 19:08:30 2024
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    OK, let's talk about the possibility of it being staged.


    It can be staged but where do you find volunteers or hire people to get shot and die like those guys from the crowd?

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Sun Jul 14 19:24:30 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:>> OK, let's talk about the possibility of it being staged.>>> It can be staged but where do you find volunteers or hire people > to get shot and die like those
    guys from the crowd?>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader----> https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlMaybe they're "voluntolds"? Or crisis actors? How do we know anyone was killed, you just believe anything the media tells you? It
    could have been red paint. blah blah blah. The point is you and Icey get a wide berth to defend Alex Jones' and similar conspiracy theories in the face of overwhelming evidence otherwise. Yet if I propose a tongue-in-cheek conspiracy theory I'm
    instantly told to quiet down :)



    This is different.


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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 20:43:11 2024
    Sawfish kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 20.22:
    On 7/14/24 9:53 AM, TT wrote:
    TT kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 19.39:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 19.31:
    On 7/14/24 8:44 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> writes:

    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 8:25 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 7:32 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:>> The poor guy >>>>>>>>>>>> hit
    the floor faster than a corpse. >> What do you mean by this?>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---->
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI >>>>>>>>>>>> mean he (Trump) ducked faster than anyone else could even >>>>>>>>>>>> react. This from a guy who said he'd have gone into the >>>>>>>>>>>> Parkland
    school unarmed to stop the shooter.

    Actually it indicates how alert the guy is and shows great >>>>>>>>>>> cognitive abilities. 90% of the people would be freezing. >>>>>>>>>>
    Or maybe he knew about it ahead of time?

    Please stop now, jd.

    :^(

    No.

    Very well.

    Flail away.

    Of course I don't really believe he knew ahead of time, as I'm sure >>>>>> you're aware.  But hey, it's within the realm of possibility, when >>>>>> you
    have you ever shied away from speculation about difficult topics?

    Sawfish a few days ago: speculating with *skript that maybe women
    throughout all time actually enjoy being forcibly raped.  Sawfish
    today: when confronted with the idle speculation that Trump's
    assassination was staged he says "Please stop now, jd." with no
    further discussion.

    :-)

    OK, let's talk about the possibility of it being staged.

    Initially, I can't see how all this could have been staged publicly,
    with the involvement of agencies under the control of the current
    administration--Biden's. THe SS was there, possibly other such
    agencies. They'd have to be in on it.

    Is this what you think, jd? Or is there another way to have faked it?


    I have to admit that the second time I watched the vid I checked if
    Trump had something in his right hand before touching his ear. Wasn't.

    As for conspiracy theory on (some in) SS being in on the plot... I
    guess that's distantly possible but unlikely.
    What I think what happened was that the plan was that sharp shooter(s)
    were covering the area of the roof where the assassin was... If they
    noticed him before the shooting and why they didn't shoot earlier is
    still a mystery. It *seemed* that the sharp shooter was looking that
    direction through the rifle scope just before the first shots fired.

    They'd be reluctant to shoot to kill if there was any ambiguity because
    in the US today, to the voting majority you cannot fire a gun and be a
    hero, no matter what.

    So there is more reluctance now than at Ruby Ridge, e.g.

    Split seconds count, don't they?


    Yep.

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 20:41:16 2024
    Sawfish kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 20.05:
    On 7/14/24 9:39 AM, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 14.7.2024 klo 19.31:
    On 7/14/24 8:44 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> writes:

    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 8:25 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:

    On 7/14/24 7:32 AM, jdeluise wrote:
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com> writes:>> The poor guy >>>>>>>>>>> hit
    the floor faster than a corpse. >> What do you mean by this?>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---->
    https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.htmlI >>>>>>>>>>> mean he (Trump) ducked faster than anyone else could even >>>>>>>>>>> react. This from a guy who said he'd have gone into the
    Parkland
    school unarmed to stop the shooter.

    Actually it indicates how alert the guy is and shows great >>>>>>>>>> cognitive abilities. 90% of the people would be freezing.

    Or maybe he knew about it ahead of time?

    Please stop now, jd.

    :^(

    No.

    Very well.

    Flail away.

    Of course I don't really believe he knew ahead of time, as I'm sure
    you're aware.  But hey, it's within the realm of possibility, when you >>>>> have you ever shied away from speculation about difficult topics?

    Sawfish a few days ago: speculating with *skript that maybe women
    throughout all time actually enjoy being forcibly raped.  Sawfish
    today: when confronted with the idle speculation that Trump's
    assassination was staged he says "Please stop now, jd." with no
    further discussion.

    :-)

    OK, let's talk about the possibility of it being staged.

    Initially, I can't see how all this could have been staged publicly,
    with the involvement of agencies under the control of the current
    administration--Biden's. THe SS was there, possibly other such
    agencies. They'd have to be in on it.

    Is this what you think, jd? Or is there another way to have faked it?


    I have to admit that the second time I watched the vid I checked if
    Trump had something in his right hand before touching his ear. Wasn't.

    I would like to kick this just a bit, TT, if you have time. Anyone else
    is also welcome.

    Reports are an AK-type rifle, and let's work from this for now. Here in
    the states this would mean either a 47 or a 74--maybe the latter is more likely, and it's a third party manufacture. If true, it's a 5.45 x39,
    but if it's a 47, then it's the old, old 7.62 x 39. Reports suggest that
    the father bough this over 6 months ago, and I don't know if "over 6
    months" is meant to include the idea that it was 20 years ago, or it was
    7 months ago.

    I'll assume it's the latter and it's a 74.

    So far as I know, these are not known for accuracy so much as
    reliability and robustness. It's then understandable that he'd miss a headshot at >100m. A body sized target at 100m would be well within any person who can shoot a rifle's ability, but there was the podium, etc.
    so...


    I shot a golden badge in Finnish army with Ak-47 type 7.62 assault rifle.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RK_62

    It's pretty accurate weapon, but probably nothing like sharp shooting
    rifle with scope.

    One of the distances was 150 meters while lying on the ground... and to
    my recollection a decent shooter would hit maybe around 9/10 shots in a
    head sized target while probably one or two shots "grazing ears". It
    took me a few tries to get all 10 in tight enough little bunch to pass
    the "exam".

    Trump's large head would be a 10/10 target I'd imagine, at least
    sideways, and with enough time/calm. But I can definitely see one
    missing just by an inch when in hurry, pressure & people shouting, head
    moving etc.

    If it's a 5.45 it could potentially make a real mess out of the
    by-standers who were hit. I think it's high velocity small cal
    "tumbler", like the 5.56 x 45 US service round.

    This is beginning to sound like it's consistent with a spontaneous
    single unprofessional assassin, with a non-optimal tool for the job,
    just trying to make it happen by sheer optimism.

    And if staged, it would include the cooperation of at least the SS and
    maybe other federal agencies, few of which Trump had much favor with
    even while in office; but we'd need to assume that they now like him a
    lot better now and want to play along.  So if one is inclined toward conspiracy, it's closer to a failed attempt by the current administration--which seems unlikely.

    Gosh.


    I saw a meme where someone whispered to Kamala's ear "they failed"...
    :)

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Mon Jul 15 01:22:55 2024
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    If he wins, things could get very dicey. We'd be on thin ice over uncharted waters. I'll leave it vague like that. I've got my own ideas on what this could mean.


    Yes, we could witness horrendous stuff. Like world peace.





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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Mon Jul 15 02:54:37 2024
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Specifically, skript, I'd expect him to spend a lot of time evening personal scores.


    Why is that a bad thing for you?





    It's for certain that the media establishment went after him from the first day he was pres, and he lost that battle. If he wins the election, its Battle II, and my guess is that he'll fight it differently.Now thinking about how that first battle went,
    and what ways are available to combat it legally, I see no way to do that short of purchasing favor (if it's even possible), or a resort to extra-legal action, possibly masked as executive decree, which has been greatly expanded into major policy
    components. Where once an executive degree was to declare a day as "special", decrees are used to implement a new set of administrative rules, unvoted on by congress. Anyone wanting to oppose this would end up taking it to the court system, and until
    fully resolved, the decree would be in effect.


    Yes, it's great.




    Too, I doubt he'll turn over the presidency at the end of his speculative 2nd term.So it could be all different here. We'll just have to wait and see.


    Many hope to see that as well. They view it as a return to normalcy.

    Is it normal that e.g. you can be president for only 8 years, but you can be senator for 50+ years.

    It means power is accumulated among the permanent career politicians, and not among those who are specifically elected to lead.


    If you have term limits for president, you should have term limits for other officials as well.








    Anyway listen to what Russia says.

    You can trust Russians 95% of the time.


    Russians are only full of shit when they talk about WW2 (and subsequent conflicts steeming from WW2).


    For some reason (which I understand) they prefer to focus on beating "Nazism" instead of saying they beat German empire led by Hitler in the name of Russian empire led by Stalin.

    I guess they perceive the fact of beating Nazism as something that they can share with all of humanity and take credit for it. It's kinda pseudo soviet anti-imperialist narrative.


    Victory over German empire for the sake of survival of Russian empire is not the same story and not the one they chose.

    And it's precisely the story imo.






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