• Kids were stabbed in the UK

    From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 30 14:43:20 2024
    Hello!

    I read that a 17 year old man stabbed kids
    in the UK. Three of the victims are already
    dead.

    Does anyone know whether the killer is a
    cultural enricher? Finnish media tries to
    hide his identity... Name, photo, anyone?

    br,
    KK

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 30 18:48:58 2024
    Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 30.7.2024 klo 17.43:
    Hello!

    I read that a 17 year old man stabbed kids
    in the UK. Three of the victims are already
    dead.

    Does anyone know whether the killer is a
    cultural enricher? Finnish media tries to
    hide his identity... Name, photo, anyone?

    br,
    KK

    There has been name Ali Al-Shakati circulating in social media.
    BUT the police says that...

    Yesterday, officers arrested a 17-year-old male from Banks and he
    remains in police custody.

    A name has been shared on social media in connection with the suspect in
    the incident in Southport. This name is incorrect and we would urge
    people not to speculate on details of the incident while the
    investigation is ongoing.

    This incident is not currently being treated as terror-related and we
    are not looking for anyone else in connection with it.

    https://www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/2024/july/update-on-major-incident-in-southport/

    ...However, the police would probably say that the person does NOT have immigrant background if that was the case. So it's very likely another immigrant, 1st or 2nd generation. All these mass stabbings always are.

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to TT@dprk.kp on Tue Jul 30 16:08:11 2024
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> wrote:
    [...]
    ...However, the police would probably say that the person does NOT have immigrant background if that was the case. So it's very likely another immigrant, 1st or 2nd generation. All these mass stabbings always are.

    Okay, thanks for the info. I hope that the real name will soon be
    published somewhere.

    br,
    KK

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 30 19:52:26 2024
    Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 30.7.2024 klo 19.08:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> wrote:
    [...]
    ...However, the police would probably say that the person does NOT have
    immigrant background if that was the case. So it's very likely another
    immigrant, 1st or 2nd generation. All these mass stabbings always are.

    Okay, thanks for the info. I hope that the real name will soon be
    published somewhere.

    br,
    KK

    Unlikely in Finnish media, especially in Yle...

    Puopolo interviewed recently on his youtube channel an Yle employee who
    told about mandatory DEI seminars, safe space rules (for example you
    can't assume someone's gender) etc.

    Today there was another guest, former employee of Yle (Finnish
    broadcasting company, paid by taxes):

    https://youtu.be/KDMpqfDhjc0?si=gaPQhg8Alx2dMPuM

    ...He says that one can't invite certain guests to their shows if
    guest's "values" are viewed as 'non-conforming'. They can't even MENTION
    name of such a person... he names for example Andrew Tate. So it's not
    allowed to mention Tate's name in Yle.

    So yes, that's not free press we have here in Finland. The commercial
    media pretty much runs with leftist ideology, as all "journalists" are
    far left-green axis. (and if they're not they probably can't show it
    cause of peer pressure)

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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Tue Jul 30 20:12:52 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:>> There has been name Ali Al-Shakati circulating in social media.> BUT the police says that...>> Yesterday, officers arrested a 17-year-old male from Banks and > he> remains in police custody.>> A name has been shared on social
    media in connection with the > suspect> in the incident in Southport. This name is incorrect and we > would> urge people not to speculate on details of the incident while > the> investigation is ongoing.>> This incident is not currently being treated as
    terror-related > and we> are not looking for anyone else in connection with it.>> https://www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/2024/july/update-on-major-incident-in-southport/>> ...However, the police would probably say that the person does >
    have immigrant background if that was the case. So it's very > likely> another immigrant, 1st or 2nd generation. All these mass > stabbings> always are.Other news reports he was born in Cardiff, Wales.



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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to TT@dprk.kp on Tue Jul 30 17:38:51 2024
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> wrote:
    So yes, that's not free press we have here in Finland. The commercial
    media pretty much runs with leftist ideology, as all "journalists" are
    far left-green axis. (and if they're not they probably can't show it
    cause of peer pressure)

    All the discussion forums in Finland are also heavily censored. The
    so-called "wrong opinions" are quickly removed from them.

    I did not expect Finnish media to ever publish the name of this
    mass murderer, but the name will eventually pop up in the social
    media.

    If/when you find out the truth, please post a follow-up to this
    thread. Thanks.

    br,
    KK

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Tue Jul 30 19:07:32 2024
    Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:
    If/when you find out the truth, please post a follow-up to this
    thread. Thanks.

    I do not claim that the following page contains the truth, but
    if you follow this link, you can find some *discussion* in Swedish:

    https://www.flashback.org/t3620929p61

    br,
    KK

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Tue Jul 30 20:16:45 2024
    Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:
    Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:
    If/when you find out the truth, please post a follow-up to this
    thread. Thanks.

    I do not claim that the following page contains the truth, but
    if you follow this link, you can find some *discussion* in Swedish:

    https://www.flashback.org/t3620929p61

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/30/southport-attack-live-children-injured/

    The following is a direct quote from the Telegraph page:

    =====begin quote==========================================
    Violent clashes have broken out between protesters and
    police after a large crowd gathered outside a mosque
    in Southport.

    Footage of the protest posted on social media showed a
    police van set on fire and crowds hurling bottles
    and bricks at police hurdled together with riot shields.

    It comes as tensions run high in the town following
    yesterday’s stabbing attack, in which three children
    were killed while attending a Taylor Swift themed yoga
    and dance workshop in Southport on Monday lunchtime.

    Police riot vans and officers are standing guard
    outside the mosque, amid chants of “No surrender!”
    and “English till I die!” from sections of the crowd.

    Yvette Cooper, the home secretary, earlier warned
    against using the killing of three schoolgirls to
    “stir up division” after the Southport stabbings. A
    police helicopter has been heard overhead and riot
    police have reportedly been deployed.

    Speaking in the House of Commons on Tuesday evening, she
    told MPs: “False information has already been extensively
    shared in the last 24 hours. Those who do this for their
    own purposes risk undermining a crucial criminal
    investigation and I ask everyone to show some respect
    for the community in Southport and for families who are
    grieving and in trauma.
    =====end quote==========================================

    Could it be true that the mass murderer is a fucking
    ÄHLÄMI whose parents originally came to UK from Rwanda?

    Note that I am not claiming anything, just asking an
    honest question.

    br,
    KK

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 30 23:56:34 2024
    jdeluise kirjoitti 30.7.2024 klo 23.24:
    kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) writes:

    Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:
    If/when you find out the truth, please post a follow-up to this
    thread. Thanks.

    I do not claim that the following page contains the truth, but
    if you follow this link, you can find some *discussion* in Swedish:

     https://www.flashback.org/t3620929p61


    It's stated that they can't legally provide the suspect's name because
    he's underage, but still you demand a name.  Otherwise, in your mind,
    it's a coverup.  They *do* say the suspect was born in Wales, so
    obviously he's not an immigrant...

    I think skriptis already refuted that argument...


    What if his name is "Archibald Higgenbottoms", all would be OK in your
    mind?

    Very unlikely. I don't recall a single mass stabbing in Europe by
    whites. Especially toward children.
    Not a single gang raping either, for some reason. Paedophile rings seem
    also come from certain backgrounds... drug rings too.

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Tue Jul 30 20:46:06 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> wrote:
    It's stated that they can't legally provide the suspect's name
    because he's underage, but still you demand a name. Otherwise, in
    your mind, it's a coverup. They *do* say the suspect was born in
    Wales, so obviously he's not an immigrant...

    Fuck off, it's an attempted cover-up. When James Bulger was
    murdered in 1993, the two 11-year-old monsters were outed
    right away:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger

    So "being underage" is a just poor excuse to fool stupid people.

    What if his name is "Archibald Higgenbottoms", all would be OK in
    your mind?

    I don't give a fuck about his name, this sicko must be outed
    no matter what the leftist scum says. As of now, I think my
    picture of this matter is getting clearer all the time. My
    initial suspicions just could be spot-on!

    This horrifying crime cannot be swept away like it is
    just normal everyday business... No way!

    br,
    KK

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 30 23:59:05 2024
    jdeluise kirjoitti 30.7.2024 klo 23.24:
    It's stated that they can't legally provide the suspect's name because
    he's underage

    Perhaps.
    However they probably could still provide more info on his ethnicity etc.

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Tue Jul 30 21:14:31 2024
    Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:
    I don't give a fuck about his name, this sicko must be outed
    no matter what the leftist scum says. As of now, I think my
    picture of this matter is getting clearer all the time. My
    initial suspicions just could be spot-on!

    This horrifying crime cannot be swept away like it is
    just normal everyday business... No way!

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29578114/suspect-southport-knife-horror-karate-cardiff/

    The Sun writes:

    "Neighbours spoke of their shock, describing the parents -
    a Christian “hard-working father and stay-at-home mother” -
    as “very normal”.

    What about Alex the son? Was he a Christian? Somehow
    I doubt it. If he were, he would have no motive to mass
    murder innocent people whore were taking part in a
    dancing/yoga lesson.

    I am now almost 100% certain that Alex is the terrorist
    and mass murderer. Why? Because in the Swedish discussion,
    his father Alphonse was mentioned. Alphonse is a black
    belt karate master. It would be too strange a co-incidence
    if the murderer had karate as his hobby too.

    Let's face it: Alphonse is Alex's father and Alex
    got the karate hobby from his father. It all adds up
    quite perfectly.

    But where did Alex catch the motive for terrorism
    and mass murder?

    br,
    KK

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 31 00:22:02 2024
    Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 31.7.2024 klo 0.14:
    Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:
    I don't give a fuck about his name, this sicko must be outed
    no matter what the leftist scum says. As of now, I think my
    picture of this matter is getting clearer all the time. My
    initial suspicions just could be spot-on!

    This horrifying crime cannot be swept away like it is
    just normal everyday business... No way!

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29578114/suspect-southport-knife-horror-karate-cardiff/

    The Sun writes:

    "Neighbours spoke of their shock, describing the parents -
    a Christian “hard-working father and stay-at-home mother” -
    as “very normal”.

    What about Alex the son? Was he a Christian? Somehow
    I doubt it. If he were, he would have no motive to mass
    murder innocent people whore were taking part in a
    dancing/yoga lesson.

    I am now almost 100% certain that Alex is the terrorist
    and mass murderer. Why? Because in the Swedish discussion,
    his father Alphonse was mentioned. Alphonse is a black
    belt karate master. It would be too strange a co-incidence
    if the murderer had karate as his hobby too.

    Let's face it: Alphonse is Alex's father and Alex
    got the karate hobby from his father. It all adds up
    quite perfectly.

    But where did Alex catch the motive for terrorism
    and mass murder?

    br,
    KK

    The article also says:

    "The 17-year-old, currently being quizzed by cops for murder and
    attempted murder, was born in Cardiff in 2006 after his parents,
    currently in their 40s, moved from Rwanda."

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 31 00:27:20 2024
    Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 31.7.2024 klo 0.24:
    Axel Muganwa Rudakubana

    So *almost* Archibald Higgenbottoms. Good call JD.

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to Kalevi Kolttonen on Tue Jul 30 21:24:05 2024
    Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote:
    But where did Alex catch the motive for terrorism
    and mass murder?

    That question needs to be answered truthfully, but
    this quote is from the flashback.org:

    https://www.flashback.org/t3620929p62

    ==== begin quote ===============================

    Troligt namn på GM:
    Axel Muganwa Rudakubana

    Född 2006 i Cardiff.

    Pappan heter Alphonse Rudakubana https://www.southportvisiter.co.uk/sport/other-sport/alphonse-gets-wants---after-9480939
    ==== end quote ===============================

    I am sure Pelle as a Swede can provide a translation
    for those who do not know Swedish, right?

    br,
    KK

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  • From Custos Custodum@21:1/5 to iceberg.rules@gmail.com on Tue Jul 30 22:46:01 2024
    On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 22:15:04 +0100, The Iceberg
    <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 30/07/2024 17:53, jdeluise wrote:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:



    There has been name Ali Al-Shakati circulating in social media.
    BUT the police says that...

    Yesterday, officers arrested a 17-year-old male from Banks and he
    remains in police custody.

    A name has been shared on social media in connection with the suspect
    in the incident in Southport. This name is incorrect and we would
    urge people not to speculate on details of the incident while the
    investigation is ongoing.

    This incident is not currently being treated as terror-related and we
    are not looking for anyone else in connection with it.

    https://www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/2024/july/update-on-major-incident-in-southport/

    ...However, the police would probably say that the person does NOT
    have immigrant background if that was the case. So it's very likely
    another immigrant, 1st or 2nd generation. All these mass stabbings
    always are.

    Other news reports he was born in Cardiff, Wales.

    to Rwandan parents, dimvit.

    Who are therefore far more likely to be Xtian than Muslim. Of course
    it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that junior was radicalized.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Rwanda

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to Custos Custodum on Tue Jul 30 21:56:04 2024
    Custos Custodum <me@privacy.net> wrote:
    Who are therefore far more likely to be Xtian than Muslim.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Rwanda

    According to The Sun, the parents are indeed Christian.

    Of course it's not beyond the bounds of possibility
    that junior was radicalized.

    Exactly. According to my understanding, there are
    two possible motives behind this sickening deed:

    1) Psychosis. Axel was delusional and was insane
    when killing. But this does not seem very credible
    because he took a taxi and drove to the destination.
    It all seems like a carefully planned and timed
    attack. He must have known what was happening.

    2) He is a convert to the "religion of peace".

    br,
    KK

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to jdeluise on Wed Jul 31 00:01:44 2024
    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yeah, white christians NEVER commit heinous crimes after all...
    *facepalm*

    Christianity is no motive for a deed like this.

    If Axel Muganwa Rudakubana is a Christian, why
    would he become a terrorist and mass murder
    children and adults? It makes no sense at all.

    Yes, history shows us that some Christian
    terrorists have attacked abortion clinics
    in the USA, but this UK act of terrorism is
    nothing like it.

    br,
    KK

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 31 13:28:38 2024
    Kalevi Kolttonen kirjoitti 31.7.2024 klo 0.56:
    Custos Custodum <me@privacy.net> wrote:
    Who are therefore far more likely to be Xtian than Muslim.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Rwanda

    According to The Sun, the parents are indeed Christian.

    Of course it's not beyond the bounds of possibility
    that junior was radicalized.

    Exactly. According to my understanding, there are
    two possible motives behind this sickening deed:

    1) Psychosis. Axel was delusional and was insane
    when killing. But this does not seem very credible
    because he took a taxi and drove to the destination.
    It all seems like a carefully planned and timed
    attack. He must have known what was happening.

    2) He is a convert to the "religion of peace".

    br,
    KK

    Or maybe it's just in their blood. Remember Rwandan genocide?

    "The Hutu and Tutsi adhere essentially to the same religious beliefs,
    which include forms of animism and Christianity."

    Also, the catholic church in Rwanda apparently aided the massacre...

    https://venturesafrica.com/catholic-church-rwandan-genocide/

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@21:1/5 to TT@dprk.kp on Thu Aug 1 16:21:08 2024
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> wrote:
    Or maybe it's just in their blood. Remember Rwandan genocide?

    "The Hutu and Tutsi adhere essentially to the same religious beliefs,
    which include forms of animism and Christianity."

    Also, the catholic church in Rwanda apparently aided the massacre...

    https://venturesafrica.com/catholic-church-rwandan-genocide/

    I really do not know. But BBC has today confirmed that the
    killer is indeed Axel Muganwa Rudakubana!!! This piece of
    shit has definitely been outed now!!!

    br,
    KK

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