• A Finnish neo-Nazi pup grooms Southport rioters

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 11 18:09:42 2024
    Yle tracked down a Finnish man who organized riots in Britain on Telegram

    Yle found out the identity of the man in his twenties and found him in
    an apartment building in southern Finland.

    A young Finnish neo-Nazi has acted as a background force in the
    organization of anti-foreigner riots in Great Britain.

    In Britain , especially last weekend, there were destructive riots. They started when three girls were stabbed to death in Southport. According
    to the British media, the suspected stabber is a teenager born in
    Britain from a Christian Rwandan family.

    Riots are planned especially in groups operating in the Telegram
    application. One of the most famous groups was managed by a Finnish man.

    Yle found out the man's identity and found him in an apartment building
    in southern Finland. The administrator is a man in his twenties who runs
    a pro-Nazi Telegram channel.

    Yle does not publish the man's name, because he has not been convicted
    and, according to Yle's information, is not suspected of any serious crime.

    Distributed instructions for fuel bottle strikes

    The Southport Wake Up group had 14,000 members before the group closed.
    The participants planned attack targets and tactics there.

    The Finnish man gave other members of the group, among other things, instructions for arson. According to the British anti-fascist research
    group Red Flare, the instructions came from a Russian-Ukrainian neo-Nazi
    group.

    - Something fun to read, the Finn wrote while sharing the instruction file.

    https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/c_crop,h_1246,w_829,x_0,y_0/ar_0.6664,c_fill,g_faces,h_954,w_636/dpr_2.0/q_auto:eco/f_auto/fl_lossy/v1723374958/39-133079866b61c03c4d70

    In addition, the Finn gave the rioters advice on protecting their
    identity and participated in a discussion on the selection of targets.

    - I don't like the fact that there is no clear picture of the situation
    and management here, he scolds in one of his messages.

    There were other administrators in the group. However, the Finn was
    quite active and boasted, among other things, that he had "cleaned out
    the Jews" from the group in his role as administrator.

    Proclaimed the destruction of the Jews in voicemails

    The Finn who managed the riot group has had his own channel spreading
    Nazi ideology in Telegram for years. He founded it in 2020, when he was
    still a minor.

    The man says on his channel that he does not encourage people to commit violence or terrorism. At the same time, however, he urges "to destroy
    the accursed Jews".

    He presents himself as a National Socialist and publishes idealistic
    posts about Adolf Hitler . In one video, he moves around the Helsinki synagogue.

    - We are tired of explaining to you why we want national socialism, he
    says in one of his voice messages.

    Below is a short sample of a speech in defense of National Socialism
    that he has published on Telegram. The speaker's voice has been changed.

    The man's Telegram channel has more than 300 followers from different countries. In addition, he has accounts in services such as Gab and
    Odysee. He has had at least five accounts on his former Twitter.

    In addition to Nazi material, he has published, among other things,
    Hamas propaganda videos.

    The riots in Southport seem to have brought influence to the young
    Finnish neo-Nazi. Through them, he has been able to distribute extremist material to a many times wider audience.

    The police suspected a crime

    According to Yle's information, he has not been convicted of any serious
    crime.

    At the turn of 2021, however, he said on Telegram that he was the
    subject of a police investigation. According to the man, the police
    suspected him of preparing a serious crime against life or health and confiscated hard drives from his home.

    According to Yle's information, the investigation has not led to an
    indictment. The investigation has been recorded in the police and
    district court records under the milder title of illegal threat.

    When Yle's reporter Tuomas Rimpiläinen arrives at the man's door to ask
    for an interview, nothing happens at first. After a long wait, a young
    man opens the door.

    He does not directly acknowledge the connection between himself and the
    label that ran the Southport Wake Up group. However, he admits that he
    was an active member of the riot group.

    - Probably, he says.

    – How did you find here?

    A couple of hours earlier, he has urged his followers to make baseless
    crime reports in order to overwhelm the English police.

    The man says he anticipated that the activities in the Telegram groups
    created around the riots would arouse the interest of the authorities.

    - I thought there would be something to talk to the police about or
    something like that. I'm ready for it.

    The conversation at the door lasts ten minutes. The man is polite, but
    peeks around. He wants to know if there are any police officers nearby.

    The man does not want to discuss what he is aiming for with his actions.

    - Doesn't bring anything to mind.

    Do you feel that because of your writings, you are partially responsible
    for the damages that the riots lead to?

    - I wouldn't say yes.

    We ask him once again to come out and justify his actions in an
    interview. He refuses.

    - Not now. Some bad clothes on, hair like shit.

    The man thanks for the visit, shakes hands and closes the door. Shortly
    after the meeting, he continues on his Telegram channel. He publishes a
    "fun test" for his followers: how anti-Semitic are you? He gets a result
    of 92/100.

    In England, inciting riots is going to court

    After the Southport stabbing, false information about the incident
    spread to the public, fueling protests. Among other things, the
    perpetrator was claimed to be an asylum seeker and a Muslim.

    Russia's involvement in spreading the rumors has also been suspected,
    but this BBC investigation, for example , found no evidence of that.

    On the other hand, the social media groups inciting riots seem to have
    had far-right actors from outside Britain as active members. The case of
    the Finnish man is one proof of this.

    Criminal investigations have also been started in England for inciting
    riots. For example, the Daily Mail reported on Tuesday that an English
    man would be charged for his Facebook post, in which he urged rioters to destroy a hotel that housed asylum seekers.

    https://yle.fi/a/74-20104053

    Geez.

    --
    "And off they went, from here to there,
    The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
    -- Traditional

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 17 18:32:32 2024
    TT kirjoitti 17.8.2024 klo 18.29:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 11.8.2024 klo 18.09:
    Criminal investigations have also been started in England for inciting
    riots

    & show-trialed + convicted under a week.

    The media pretended that the "riots" were caused by social media &
    "rioters" were part of "far right".

    Not really...

    https://x.com/Steve_Laws_/status/1820495884238651500


    Sorry, wrong clip (although related).

    This is what I meant to post...

    https://x.com/RMXnews/status/1820106334244581421

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 17 18:44:00 2024
    TT kirjoitti 17.8.2024 klo 18.32:
    TT kirjoitti 17.8.2024 klo 18.29:
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 11.8.2024 klo 18.09:
    Criminal investigations have also been started in England for
    inciting riots

    & show-trialed + convicted under a week.

    The media pretended that the "riots" were caused by social media &
    "rioters" were part of "far right".

    Not really...

    https://x.com/Steve_Laws_/status/1820495884238651500


    Sorry, wrong clip (although related).

    This is what I meant to post...

    https://x.com/RMXnews/status/1820106334244581421


    https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1822025045432233996

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 17 18:29:09 2024
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 11.8.2024 klo 18.09:
    Criminal investigations have also been started in England for inciting riots

    & show-trialed + convicted under a week.

    The media pretended that the "riots" were caused by social media &
    "rioters" were part of "far right".

    Not really...

    https://x.com/Steve_Laws_/status/1820495884238651500

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  • From TT@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 17 18:22:27 2024
    Pelle Svanslös kirjoitti 11.8.2024 klo 18.09:
    The man's Telegram channel has more than 300 followers from different countries.

    So the charge is that he is a riot organizer because he has 300
    followers... LOL!
    How many of those were from England? 10?

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