• How many bounces?

    From Yama@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 27 10:57:31 2024
    Poll: How many times you bounce the ball before you serve?

    For me, it's one. Just once. Sometimes, rarely, if my service motion is
    somehow interrupted or I need to adjust my grip etc, I bounce the ball
    second time, but never more than that. My regular playing mate does not
    bounce the ball at all.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to Yama on Wed Aug 28 01:46:48 2024
    On 27/08/2024 5:57 pm, Yama wrote:
    Poll: How many times you bounce the ball before you serve?

    For me, it's one. Just once. Sometimes, rarely, if my service motion is somehow interrupted or I need to adjust my grip etc, I bounce the ball
    second time, but never more than that. My regular playing mate does not bounce the ball at all.


    1 or zero usually, but recently I've been forced to bounce it a few
    times as my opponents often complain I'm quick serving. This annoys me
    as you're supposed to play at the server's pace. I never hold up the
    server, always make sure I'm ready to receive if they're ready to go.
    So now I'm changing my patterns to bounce it about 6 times or so so I
    don't have to deal with the 'I wasn't ready' crap.

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  • From Yama@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 28 03:30:36 2024
    Whisper kirjoitti 27.8.2024 klo 18:46:
    On 27/08/2024 5:57 pm, Yama wrote:
    Poll: How many times you bounce the ball before you serve?

    For me, it's one. Just once. Sometimes, rarely, if my service motion
    is somehow interrupted or I need to adjust my grip etc, I bounce the
    ball second time, but never more than that. My regular playing mate
    does not bounce the ball at all.


    1 or zero usually, but recently I've been forced to bounce it a few
    times as my opponents often complain I'm quick serving.  This annoys me
    as you're supposed to play at the server's pace.  I never hold up the server, always make sure I'm ready to receive if they're ready to go. So
    now I'm changing my patterns to bounce it about 6 times or so so I don't
    have to deal with the 'I wasn't ready' crap.

    Well it is server's REASONABLE pace =)

    I don't have that problem, my service motion is not fast despite just 1
    bounce, as I have other weird kinks there. Like I do this weird 'false
    start' when I toss: I don't know why or how it began, nobody ever taught
    me to serve and it shows, it's awful.

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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to Yama on Tue Aug 27 21:08:53 2024
    On 8/27/2024 2:57 AM, Yama wrote:
    Poll: How many times you bounce the ball before you serve?

    For me, it's one. Just once. Sometimes, rarely, if my service motion is somehow interrupted or I need to adjust my grip etc, I bounce the ball
    second time, but never more than that. My regular playing mate does not bounce the ball at all.

    Always has been four bounces for me. Four just felt right to me. If I
    got distracted by my opponent(s) or a ball from another court, I would
    go back to my four bounces.
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  • From *skriptis@21:1/5 to nospam@home.net on Wed Aug 28 04:20:47 2024
    Scall5 <nospam@home.net> Wrote in message:
    Always has been four bounces for me. Four just felt right to me. If I got distracted by my opponent(s) or a ball from another court, I would go back to my four bounces.-- ---------------Scall5



    That's the spirit. ;)

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  • From Yama@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 28 12:27:08 2024
    Sawfish kirjoitti 28.8.2024 klo 4:01:
    Yama, assuming you are right handed, do you drag your right foot up to
    the baseline and pause and flex, even if only momentarily, or do you
    simply flex your knees to coincide with the top of the toss without the
    foot drag?

    No right/wrong answer. I did the latter. I think it is required by a relatively low toss.

    Too lazy today to get good examples of either, but will get them if it
    helps.

    I do drag my right feet a bit as you describe. Not much of a pause
    though. My toss is low and inconsistent, never learned the proper way.

    I once saw Emma Laine practise her toss during hitting session: it's
    pretty cool how a Tour professional can get even that simple thing look
    so different to us hacks. It went up and down straight as a ruler,
    always to same height and landed at her fingers with millimetre
    precision. Like it was molded in concrete if that makes sense.
    I just hadn't paid attention to that so much before, when player does a complete serve one tends to look at the racquet, and toss is just kinda
    there.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to Yama on Wed Aug 28 19:35:44 2024
    On 28/08/2024 7:27 pm, Yama wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 28.8.2024 klo 4:01:
    Yama, assuming you are right handed, do you drag your right foot up to
    the baseline and pause and flex, even if only momentarily, or do you
    simply flex your knees to coincide with the top of the toss without
    the foot drag?

    No right/wrong answer. I did the latter. I think it is required by a
    relatively low toss.

    Too lazy today to get good examples of either, but will get them if it
    helps.

    I do drag my right feet a bit as you describe. Not much of a pause
    though. My toss is low and inconsistent, never learned the proper way.

    I once saw Emma Laine practise her toss during hitting session: it's
    pretty cool how a Tour professional can get even that simple thing look
    so different to us hacks. It went up and down straight as a ruler,
    always to same height and landed at her fingers with millimetre
    precision. Like it was molded in concrete if that makes sense.
    I just hadn't paid attention to that so much before, when player does a complete serve one tends to look at the racquet, and toss is just kinda there.




    I've never caught a toss in my life. I have lots of friends who are
    constantly catching it and trying again, much to my amusement. Just
    throw the ball into your swing rather than swing at the ball. It's an
    old Bill Tilden tip.

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  • From Scall5@21:1/5 to Whisper on Wed Aug 28 19:03:34 2024
    On 8/28/2024 4:35 AM, Whisper wrote:
    On 28/08/2024 7:27 pm, Yama wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 28.8.2024 klo 4:01:
    Yama, assuming you are right handed, do you drag your right foot up
    to the baseline and pause and flex, even if only momentarily, or do
    you simply flex your knees to coincide with the top of the toss
    without the foot drag?

    No right/wrong answer. I did the latter. I think it is required by a
    relatively low toss.

    Too lazy today to get good examples of either, but will get them if
    it helps.

    I do drag my right feet a bit as you describe. Not much of a pause
    though. My toss is low and inconsistent, never learned the proper way.

    I once saw Emma Laine practise her toss during hitting session: it's
    pretty cool how a Tour professional can get even that simple thing
    look so different to us hacks. It went up and down straight as a
    ruler, always to same height and landed at her fingers with millimetre
    precision. Like it was molded in concrete if that makes sense.
    I just hadn't paid attention to that so much before, when player does
    a complete serve one tends to look at the racquet, and toss is just
    kinda there.




    I've never caught a toss in my life.  I have lots of friends who are constantly catching it and trying again, much to my amusement.  Just
    throw the ball into your swing rather than swing at the ball.  It's an
    old Bill Tilden tip.

    I recall *something* along the lines of Venus ending each practice with
    50 ball tosses. If one landed too far away for her to catch it (I
    think), she would start over until she got 50 correct ones. Anyone ever
    hear of this?
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