• Re: Soliciting thoughts on Alcaraz

    From Whisper@21:1/5 to Sawfish on Sat Aug 31 17:57:05 2024
    On 31/08/2024 3:11 am, Sawfish wrote:
    First, I have no doubts that Alcaraz is one of the greatest natural
    tennis talents in terms of physicality and shot-making that I have ever
    seen. Very possibly THE best. ThereĀ  are entire multi-game stretches in
    some matches that I watched that look like a highlight reel--simply one astounding shot after another.

    I did not see the Cinci match, where he lost to Monfils, but I watched
    him lose last night to the Dutch player. It was to me inexplicable by
    any normal standard. Alcaraz was not driven to making errors; he made
    errors repeatedly throughout the match from neutral balls. He made few winners.

    His opponent did not take the match from Alcaraz. Alcaraz gave the match away.

    So in the past we've seen some periods where he plays poorly--he's an
    uneven player--but when required to play well to win, he does. Until recently: last night for sure, and possibly in Cinci. I didn't see it so
    I can't characterize it.

    It's metal entirely, it looks like. Are there any known perturbations in
    his life that might contribute to a lack of desire or concentration?

    Last night, in the last major of the year, he played like a man who
    really didn't care much about winning.

    I'm certainly *not* saying he's in any real trouble so far as having a
    career as a remarkably successful pro tennis player. But what now is in question, like never before in my mind, is if he'll make it into the
    ranks of the greats: Borg, Mac, Sampras, Fed, Rafa, Djokovich, and those
    who preceded that era--Connors, and the earlier Aussies.

    He could be about as successful as Agassi. Quite successful, but not
    first rank. I had fully expected him to challenge Djokovich's career
    totals, and could see no real reasons, short of injury, that this would
    not be possible. But last night I saw a plausible reason why he might
    not exceed Sampras' totals. Some kind of mental flaw.

    I know he's got the goods and he's got a long way to go in his career,
    but what I saw last night, and had been hinted at in some of his earlier
    weak matches, whether he won or lost, was sort of inability to get
    himself mentally into the match. Last night it further manifested itself
    in breaking down his timing to the point of many unforced errors and few winners.

    The other explanation that fits what I saw is a tank. For what reason,
    in a USO, I cannot rationally imagine.

    Thoughts? Comments?




    Yes it's clearly mental. I think it's more simple than what we think.
    All players are different and Carlos is still young so will learn what
    works and what doesn't over time. To me it looks like he needs lengthy
    breaks from the game to periodically produce his best stuff. He's the
    type of player who doesn't need a lot of tuning up for slams - look at
    FO this yr. So I think it's just simply playing too much tennis at the
    elite level. He won FO, Wimbledon and very nearly gold medal in a
    condensed period of time. That's a lot of tennis at the ultimate
    standard. Nobody else played as many matches over that period. He just
    needs a break to recharge.

    Going forward I expect we'll see the very best from Carlos at FO and
    Wimbledon. He'll drop off slightly at USO but not by much (this is an
    Olympic year so just too much). Also there's no reason why he shouldn't
    also be at his best at AO to start the tennis year.

    I'll have him as fave at every slam for the next 5 years I reckon.

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  • From Whisper@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 1 18:55:38 2024
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